Are there any harem stories where the "obvious" girl doesn't win? The third girl, or even fourth?
In a world of demure childhood friends and fiery half-foreign transfer students (or some remix of those traits), are there any MCs with the courage to go for the quirky rich girl, the secondary-childhood-friend yandere, the tipsy slut, the hopeless loli, or any one of the other, more interesting and less aggravating choices? Is there anyone strong enough to defy the gravity of the two "main girls", setting aside blue and red in favour of green or purple?
pic sadly a counterexample
Ichigo 100%. Strawberry panties girl was his goal, but instead of having it be about the whole harem and guy beating around every bush about feelings, it's the first girl who bothered being straight-forward who wins. The story was actually pretty good too, and the cast had goals beyond falling in love and graduating high school.
And if you Fruits Basket as a sort of reverse harem, the obvious boy ends up being in platonic love while the other one wins.
TWGOK, except it was retconned in the tank to be very ambiguous so I don't know what to say. She was one of the later girls and started as a background character. She should have won, did, and then canon was re-written.
The first episode of shuffle is like "he's totally going to go for the childhood friend", or, if not that, one of the magical princesses that show up wanting to marry him.
And then he goes for Asa. And she's not even an archetype that ever wins.
you should have stayed till the end of that thread. Canon stayed canon, the dialogue was just changed to more accurately parallel the "I can see the ending" catch phrase. Blush was taken out though though which is disapointing but might be more in character.
>One more LN
>Its an epilogue
>Rika friendzoned him from the start
>hurr she hasn't won COME FROM BEHIND VICTORY
>The World God Only Knows
It was well-developed and not a surprise at all by the end of the story, but Chihiro was basically the anti-Main Girl. In terms of plot importance and time spent with Keima, she was behind Elsie, Haqua, Tenri, and possibly even Ayumi (the supposed First Girl).
>Yozora's face when she lost because she created the stupid club
>Rika friendzoned him from the start
Except the latest volume is all about showing how much Kodaka loves her and they even explicitly says that he has been in love with her for a while now and that everything he said about liking Sena and Yukimura but only seeing Rika as a friend in the past was just him misunderstanding his feeling of love for friendship?
But I'm just arguing with a retard who read a few spoilers in some random threads and think he know shit
I'm told that Natsuru chooses Akane in the books and Shizuku in the manga. Which are both not-the-obvious-choice endings, since normally you'd expect it would be either the girl he was trying to win the entire time, or the default childhood friend.
(warning: like >>111035335 , Kampfer is still guilty pleasure tier at best)
It's pretty obvious she loves him too.
But in the club she is pretty much the loneliest so she is just afraid of losing the first friend she ever had.
It's pretty obvious if you read Connect.
If you don't see where the story is going you are pretty retarded
Anyways I actually read the latest volumes, you obviously didn't, so just stop.
That's only if you are focusing on the supernatural side of the plot (which most do). The human element side of the plot was pretty much dominated by her by the end.
Yeah, it got obvious in the infamous, "There is no goddess in Chihiro," chapter and especially the following one, though it was increasingly predictable before that.
A lot of people were thrown by the time travel arc barely having Chihiro in it, not realizing that her absence was intentional to build up the drama of her return, which had a spectacular effect on Keima.
EVERYONE was absent in the time travel arc. It was atrocious.
Though I guess you could argue "Chihiro didn't even show up in the present-day chapters!" but who gives a fuck, and why would she?
>Though I guess you could argue "Chihiro didn't even show up in the present-day chapters!" but who gives a fuck, and why would she?
Well, almost everyone else did, including Miyako in the "Keima keeps falling into AUs" introduction. Chihiro was conspicuous in her absence.
Weird, just noticed that both shuffle and TWGOK's winners have fairly similar circumstances.
Both introduced as friends of seemingly more main girl and both will have drama involving that character later. Both start as playfully snarky at the expense of the main character, both seem to be less obviously interested in him than the sea of other heroines. Both more representative of a normal/equal partnership than the fantastical girls surrounding the main. Both have connections to other males (Chihiro pursuing and Asa pursued). Both have short hair and one accessory on it's left side.
I guess I just really hated the time travel arc and thought it didn't work well at all. Also, Wakaki clearly ended the series early since some plot elements were rushed while others were completely ignored (in example, Elsie = Final Boss, and Demeter in that order)
true, personally I felt like there were more than enough references to her in her absence to make it clear enough but people believe what they want to believe and a large contingency of the fanbase wanted another ending.
that was definitely the biggest problem of the past arc, he'd just spent the goddess arc finally further exploring heroines and upping the stakes and then he just threw all that out the window.
He even fucked the cabbit.
Maybe he realized that he couldn't make the final battle with Elsie-fer work. It would have been hard to do without being cliche or anticlimactic, especially since it couldn't end with Keima getting together with Elsie romantically.
I feel the need to post The Chart.
Oops that's definitely true. Still doesn't hurt my case if you just split that into two different points. Elsie definitely appeared to be much more important than Chihiro (ultimately the two were closer in importance than it first appeared).
Ichigo 100%, TWGOK, the shuffle anime, Nurarihyon no mago isn't a harem but technically has this happen, and Kampfer are the only ones that come to mind. I'd also say Dragonball kinda falls in this category since Bulma didn't win, but that isn't harem either.
That ending was everything but good. Not because the pairing but the whole thing seemed like something out of nowhere in the end.
The guy just decided to go for the blonde girl like, what, 2 chapters before the ending?
Even if it wasn't Fate, it was someone completely unexpected, i.e. not Asuna, Nodoka, Chisame, or Yue.
Umi no Misaki, canon harem end and you see them fuckin on screen.
I honestly feared it would just go for a Shizuki end but nope. Good for me since I liked Soyogi the most and she didn't have a chance on her own.
Uwasa no Midori-kun is a shoujo manga were the secondary male wins. He never had a chance, the FeMC was constantly drooling over the popular asshole with a sad past but suddenly she chose the nice guy. I still don't know what happened, the asshole was clearly the mangaka's husbando
The first 'main' guy got son-zoned, that was hilarious. But she was obviously going for cat.
That said, most of the cast got paired up and the author got away with trolling most of her jap fanbase.
Blond girl happened to win the popularity poll because she is best girl, but the butthurt fans of the black haired girl concluded that she won because of the poll. MC and blond girl have been seeing each other for more than half of the manga and they act like it was an asspull... Was it really surprising for anyone?
>Shame Yuki-onna isn't the hottest girl of the series
It wasn't a pun, I was talking about the goddess of sex the series had.
>When's the last time they ever won?
Depends, I guess if the loli is the only competitor or one of many. Arifureta and Mushoku Tensei both have loli winners. Arifureta even sets up an obvious first and main girl just to end up voiding her and putting the MC with a loli instead. A loli he stays devoted to despite that "main" girl and other girls trying to get affection from him.
Mushoku Tensei I don't know if it counts, since Rudy marries multiple girls, one of whom is a loli. I guess it's a surprise if you don't expect him to marry multiple girls since the loli was the second wife.