>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies and manga publishers, the Japanese government will next month start a huge extermination operation against 580 foreign sites which have illegally uploaded anime and manga contents on the web without the copyright holders' permission, NHK reported on July 28. While the government has started supporting the genre as one of their important cultural exports, there appears to be no end of illegal uploading of anime and manga via pirate sites, mainly operated by Chinese. The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the loss caused by the Chinese pirate sites last year was amounted to at least 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion).
>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.
Any info on nyaa and bakabt, are we in trouble?
>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found.
"Hey you, stop stealing."
"...well, we tried."
Yeah we sure are in "trouble".
Mainly, but if they attack a couple of western torrents, we're doomed. Maybe, it's P2P time and stuff.
Because animu contributors are dumb. For example, canlators delete manga and don't use piratebay. They're worse, than Nazi.
And you know, that Bakabt delets every licensed shit out there.
Bakabt are still adhering to Box's shitty old policies, and considering newfag probably doesn't even know what boxtorrents is anymore I imagine they're too far below a radar for ANYONE to care.
they'll probably DMCA sadpanda again because of that faggot Jacob
So? Pirating anime was already illegal. The only possible change is you might (not very likely unless you use Chinese torrent sites) have to change what website you download/torrent from.
Piracy is what brought anime here in the first place.
And i don't think people from the west will massively buy anime all the sudden since their websites are gone heck there will be even fewer sales in the west then it is now.
Plenty of webhosts will comply with takedown requests from the owner if you're hosting copyrighted content. It causes a lot of trouble for streaming sites to deal with it.
If they don't comply with a takedown request, then it's unlikely that they'll really go to court to try to take down the website. But having to jump from host to host could be a big hassle for some of the streaming sites so I bet a few of them would go down.
That's my experience for US/European sites, but I'm not sure what Chinese hosts do. I think they don't give a shit at all.
Yes, from the copyright holder, but how is that any different from the situation as it is right now? The Japanese government does not own any copyrights personally, so I don't see what their help is going to change.
They will try to use intimidation, demanding, threatening, citing international law, "consequences will never be the same", etc.
Then if there isn't a response, they may try and contact local governments. But for the most part, this is a lost cause unless the site is being hosted in a country with strict piracy laws.
Fuck the streaming sites, it'd be excellent if they all died. Parasitic shitheads like the people who run ad-ridden streaming sites for the sole purpose of obtaining their filthy advertising shekels deserve to have their livelihoods killed.
Hosting anything in the US is fucking retarded.
Yes, sadpanda is hosted in the US, seriously.
Nyaa and BakaBT are in the Netherlands.
TT is in the Ukraine.
DMCA and whatever tools Japan has are ineffective.
>Estimated loss 560 billion yen
>Implying that anyone would have bought even 1% of shit they torrented
>Implying half the shit they churn out would have had any attention if people had to pay for them
Estimated loss figures from piracy always annoys me to no end.
This means nothing.
The worst that can happen is some series raws take a little longer to be uploaded if they stop the chinese from doing it early.
The US can't keep the pirate bay down so what makes you think a small ass country (in comparison) like Japan will be able to do anything?
What's the best ambassador of Japan in the world ?
Yeah, manga and anime.
Without that, nobody would give a fuck about Japan.
And they want to stop that ?
A whole generation has learned to love Japan without Japan having to do anything, an they want to stop that ?
Because of manga and anime, a lot of people see Japaneses as equals at last, and they want to stop that ?
In todays world, there is nothing more valuable than good advertising, and they want to stop this subtle, free advertising they got worldwide ?
I can't find a single word to resume the extent of that kind of stupidity.
Pic related. The power of popular culture.
Will cc0721 be put in prison and get raped by Taiwanese faggots?
this is gonna be...tragic?
If i cant acces the mangos and animus i watch, what i am supposed to do? wait half a year for oficial dubs or subs?
meh, i think this might end up bitting em back
Because, being the jewish fucks they are, they want to suck your wallet dry as much as possible. But then people rebel against this by putting up file-sharing websites.
Welcome to the age of corporatism. Piracy is the only way left to fight back.
>compared to all the shit on nyaa, batoto, bakabt, and sadpanda
What the fuck are they even thinking?
this happens when a select few companies try to monopolize the market.
It usually goes like this: Oh you wanted to watch [insert your favourite anime]? Too bad watch this [generic shounen episode 4352354] instead!
their greed is literally trying to kill anime
Having 250 titles on launch is not bad at all really.
Especially since they have the majority of hit series right now and that's the majority of pirated downloads.
Obviously this won't get rid of the big sites, but it may get some of the normalfags to paying for their manga. Could've been a worse attempt
>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.
That doesn't sound too bad for me but I feel bad for you NEETs out there.
>taking down the Chinese through legal actions
they can't be serious...
building a fucking warp engine within this decade would be more feasible
We go back to the source. Rev up those Amigas, where do i send my tapes ?
>Japan exists in the international world solely for anime and manga
I know this is /a/: Anime and Manga but come on
What's even more hilarious is it's the fucking JAPS thinking they can get the fucking Chinese government to enforce foreign IP laws of any sort. The chinks have been jacking everything from movies to missile schematics from the US for years and basically respond "cry more, you bitches" when the US complains about it. Fuck all is going to happen, especially to the chinks.
>mfw WW3 happens because Japan wants China to stop pirating its animu
If zero people bought your product than you obviously fucked up somewhere. The piracy just emphasizes that.
Single-player only games like Skyrim are easy as shit to pirate yet developers are getting plenty of sales. Why? Because they made somtehing fans consider worthy of buying.
There are only 2 things you need to do to curb piracy.
1. Make a good product at a reasonable price
2. Make sure it's just as easy to get that product legally as it is to pirate it.
And anime/manga counts for less than 0.5% of that. Even in Japan this stuff is a niche market, claiming that it has any influence on the international stage is silly. You silly anon.
I was agreeing with you, you doofus; the post you were responding to you wasn't me. My point was that Japan is wildly important for a whole lot of reasons besides anime and manga.
They dont buy anything else. Its easy to have disposable income when you dont go outside, dont own a car, dont have to pay for gas, dont go to movies or wherever with friends. Or live at home and dont pay for anything but animu
So what? If they attack illegal streaming sites all it will do is piss off some plebs who actually watch stream anime with watermarks, adds, shitty quality and stolen subs. They are doing the community a service. I don't really pirate manga so I can't give two fucks about that either. I seriously doubt they can do anything about torrents though and as long as exhentai is alive I'm happy.
You can't stop piracy in 2014 you fucking can't.
It's grew too big now there is no way to deal with it at all. Arresting and charging a few people here and there isn't going to do nothing.
If they were never going to buy it then the piracy means nothing. It had zero effect on the company.
However there are plenty of cases where fans would pay money but choose not to.
A good example would be most of /a/. I know at least I would buy anime if I could get it on BD or a BD-quality download and subbed at a reasonable price. $100 for a 12 episode series is not reasonable and that is why no one outside of japan is buying it on a large scale.
First they take our sweet, vanilla hentai, and now they would aim for our anime and manga
Do they not understand that their prices are outrageous and they are only hurting themselves
>Not even Japan vidya is that affordable, much less anime BDs or DVDs.
That's my point.
That is why the piracy rate is so high.
The only people buying anime are the hardcore fans who'd buy it at practically any price.
They read manga and watch some animu. Lots of manga, BTW.
I'd sure love to buy some legal VN/Eroge online. The translated ones are expensive as fuck to import from US. If there only was a store like steam that stocked some hardcore japanese porngames I'd throw my money at it. Such a shame they can't sell porn on Steam due to feminist getting their rectums ravaged if they sell such patriarchal material and the jews on Steam will lose their precious gamer gurl shekels.
>However there are plenty of cases where fans would pay money but choose not to
so the problem is not the piracy itself, but a lack of trust towards the fans
>tfw stuck with downloading via xdcc
>tfw three quarters of /a/ doesn't even know what IRC is
>tfw most of the retards will leave /a/
i watch them try and laugh.
i will never pay that much for few episodes of cartoon.
i much rather pirate, get caught, and pay 80cents per episode, 10 cents per page plus the fine that is 20€.
currently the price would be around 850€ without the fine.
now count how much i would have to pay if i went the legal way
>create some sort of anime netfilx
>find out who fansubbers are
>ask them to sub your show
>give them a small percentage of whatever the show makes based on views
>no work for the nipponese other than maintaining the site and add new shit
As much as I would like for this to happen, it never will
Holy fuck, are you seriously comparing the music industry, something with mass appeal, to late night animu with a sales base of a few thousand otaku? You slash prices, you won't get an increase in sales. They've done it before, it doesn't fucking work.
You understand nothing about business. Kill yourself.
>not everything is available on IRC
Yeah, only the vast majority
Pretty much. Just look at my options as an American
- Buy extremely overpriced BDs with no subs shipped from Japan
- Pay for low quality Crunchyroll stream (assuming Crunchyroll was able to get it) and not even own the actual content
- Pay for an overpriced American shitty dub that will have a shitty sub If I'm lucky and will be released at least a year after the show ends and I've seen all the spoilers
Torrenting a fansub through Nyaa is so much better than all of these options I'd pick it even if I had to pay a subscription fee
>It's less expensive to just do it the illegal way and get caught than to do it legitimately
Shit I never thought of this, thanks for the insight, anon
He's saying that their audience for sales is based around people obsessed and dedicated enough that lowering the sales wouldn't change anything, the same people would still buy it and at the higher price.
I don't know any proof he think he has, but it's definitely a logical conclusion.
How bout regular Netflix? They stuck stuff SnK and that Knights of Sidonia show up fairly early, compared to all its other offerings which are years old.
Of course, they're a season or two after the fact, and on the other hand, they have to vie with Funimation and CR.
>>I just remind you of one simple fact: the cheaper product is, the more customers buy it,
Sure, except more doesn't mean better.
If you drop the price by half, and you don't get well over a 150% increase in sales, you're losing money. The anime industry is based around hardcore fans that will pay any price, the price is no issue when it comes to deciding if they want to support a show or not. When you drop the price of a blu-ray to 75%, you get a minor 10-20% bump in sales. Even ignoring the true loss in profit margins, you're still not selling as much.
More like I'm surprised that the Japanese Governement "BAN ALL MANGA" stance in the past few years went to "MANGA IS COOL, PROTECT MANGA"
I'm seriously wondering where the fuck they're coming from on this one.
TRIGGER animu got crowdfunded and then trigger saved anime.
buying obscenely overpriced animu has always primarily gone only to the studio heads.
publishers are scared their free ride is being threatened by internet, where piracy fights corporatism and crowdfunding MAY empower good artists to break free of the shackles that rob them of their intellectual property and outside of rich outliers like the Big 3's mangaka, for example, get paid an utter pittance.
>They think people will actually buy their chinesse cartoons
They will experience the same fate of our
Is this the end of free content on the internet? It seems that's where it's headed.
So /a/, what hobbies are you going to take up now that anime is dead?
I'm thinking about getting into baking, damn that pretzel bread looks good.
We're not there yet, and probably won't be for a good while, but hey I don't want to fuck your week, but all of us here, we'll live to see the end of the internet. It's coming.
The outcome of such move if passed, would be the complete annihilation of smaller artists. Mostly big titles (read generic shounen crap) would survive meaning the industry would be taking a far bigger blow than what they are crying about right now.
It's not about piracy, it's about making the
>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies
don't fool yourselves
>lowering the sales wouldn't change anything
Really? But why it worked with the music and games then?
>more doesn't mean better
>The anime industry is based around hardcore fans
Or casual schoolkids, who buy random shit and millons of One Picece, and Konan?
>When you drop the price of a blu-ray to 75%, you get a minor 10-20% bump in sales.
This point seems legit. They need some online distribution and a worldwide market to do this.
>>Or casual schoolkids, who buy random shit and millons of One Picece, and Konan?
Kids aren't fucking buying blu-rays. There are a few teens who watch late night stuff, but they aren't paying for it, and they wouldn't be paying for it if it was a little cheaper.
Jesus christ, what's been up with all this crazy shit lately?
I mean, this isn't going to amount to anything for various reasons, but all this shit happening recently makes me disheartened. Anime sales are higher than ever as of late. You'd think they'd only bother with this crap if sales were low to boogeyman someone. Going with the status quo and being happy with their prospering (financially) industry seems a lot easier, even than making a badly designed website like they did.
>Late night anime isn't.
Not even just late night, anything that isn't super popular like the typical kids shows, Gundam, or high profile jump titles aren't of any interest to the Japanese mainstream.
>music and games don't rely on basement losers still living with their mom to sell
>late night stuff
Why are you focusing on it? If it's cheap, they can buy, how can you be so sure?
To be fair, living in the U.S., tough crime laws are kind of a deterrent. They can also encourage more tech-savvy people to develop things like proxys or VPN's however, and so instead of stopping piracy, it could make it harder to catch.
>When you give us the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands.
Nice idea to pay them for free animu and mango.
The biggest flaw with their logic is that they think that by taking down these streaming/torrent sites people will buy more shit. Even if it's just a hundred more sales, it's more than 0. In their mind this makes Crunchyroll (not including torrent sites like nyaa of course) the only way to watch anime. The real issue here is that Crunchyroll does not sub every new show, and they also don't sub shows that have already aired. Some sales for new stuff will increase, but the shows that aren't subbed will get swept under the rug completely, and will end up selling even less because the interest is no longer there. Shows that sold a measly 500 blu rays and flopped hard before will really suffer now. Shows like SAO on the other hand probably won't be affected at all. In the end big, ignorant businessmen win, and the industry suffers for its idiocy.
I don't really delve deep enough into sales and the like to provide any definitive proof, but if you look at how Kill La Kill (yes, I know, KLK is bad / a shit / etc.) is currently selling their product, you could say that anime like it is typically only bought by those that are obsessed.
Right now, they are selling BD with 4 episodes each on it, and they have a couple of extras sold with them. I believe the distributors are selling these at $60 a set? You'd have to be insane (or a collector, who is likely equally insane) to pay for each of these disks instead of waiting for a complete collection. The difference in price would probably be in the hundreds of dollars.
My comment isn't entirely relevant to the thread, but there is some circumstantial proof to his point, at least. (Keep in mind, I don't buy a lot of BDs or merch, so I don't know if that is what typically keeps the industry afloat or not.)
>browsed facebook to check for important announcement in the university.
>accidentally seen a fanpage that posting the same news about this whole anime and manga thing
>some people are worrying about fakku going down
learned how to use it once, shit was pretty easy.
Then I realized that I didn't even need xdcc since I had everything I needed on torrents.
>Don't worry guys, Daiz will safe us!
I'm not paying for shit unless I get something physical.
Fuck "subscriptions" I live in Canada with shitty capped internet, so I'd be able to stream maybe 1 series a month.
I'd support the fuck out of the industry if they would release every anime with English subs and didn't charge an arm and a dick for a single series.
Even a 12 episode series will run around $300-400 before shipping. If you can get the boxset it's a bit cheaper, sort of.
TTGL Box was still like $450
Jojo was nearly $1000 for the LE's and shipping.
Please stop explaining to newfags how to get animu.
This ongoing situation and what happened with Sadpanda should serve as a reminder to us all that the "secret club" mentality always was and always will be a good thing. If some idiot doesn't know how to XDCC and thinks torrents are better, just let him think that. You still know XDCC works great and you'll still have the option to use it in the unlikely event that BakaBT/nyaa/animebytes gets shut down. Tell them to lurk more.
Some japanese, like Miyazaki, think anime is shameful and should not be made available to gaijin because it damages Japan's reputation.
Miyazaki laments how when people think of Japan they think of rape cartoons made for otaku, who are the stinking anus of nippon.
really they should learn that first you have to set up a reliable way of flooding your entertainment abroad and THEN snap the trap shut.
Partially agreeing with you on the sekrit klub issue, but in the (very) unlikely event that those sites go down, clones of them will be up within a day. Bittorrent won't die unless the internet dies.
So there is no need to worry, the newfags will never, ever bother you ever again.
In Japan the people know which anime to buy and support because they watch it on TV. In America if they somehow make it impossible to find torrents why would they expect us to buy their shit? They are targeting streaming and downloading site when that's the only way for us to watch anime without buying it. I don't understand their logic, but it must make sense.
yeah man thats a really great idea Japan. Lets cut out the entire market outside of this tiny ass little island's pretend market. You know the potential foreign market who watch tv broadcasts who might buy stuff. Fuck those other people who try to buy expensive ass toys from those toy companies. Fuck the people who pay outlandish prices for stupid ass BD.
Lets just cut them all out. really great idea!
I'll always find a way to get my anime free. The internet is wonderful like that. It's too big to try and control it. China doesn't give a shit about Japan complaining their animu is getting pirated.
It might just be a bit harder to stream some anime now, but heck, I only stream when I watch anime on my phone.. Which is like... A couple of days per year.
There's no need for websites in this actually. There's no way to stomp it out completely without personally attacking the people translating content and hoping nobody will take their place.
>3rd world dumpster
My nigga. Government here agreed on control piracy just to shut murrica up. They don't actually do anything to stop it because they know some people actually live from selling pirated dvds here.
I meant for modern Japan.
Ah yeah you're right, also the people who put cameras on their shoes.
The point is, most normies don't see anime as anything different than the Japanese equivalent of cartoon network shows.
>The point is, most normies don't see anime as anything different than the Japanese equivalent of cartoon network shows.
Well... you're a somewhat right. But only if cartoon network shows nowadays have outrageous amounts of fanservice, that it's just basically porn for kids.
It's over, just like the last time they tried this.
It did work, though. Unfortunately, that small victory went straight to their head and they suddenly thought that "uncivilized white man" can't put up a fight even when they're not sleeping.
It's monetized by the overseas buyfags. If they mounted an effective anti-piracy strategy then their overseas sales would drop from a fraction of pirates to a smaller fraction.
The nips themselves only pirate porn.
At least post this shit again, so people can get a laugh.
Someone made an iRC for it, I think.
I remember there was this talk about a gov't official leaving office to buy pirated movies.
Yeah, mudslimes are the number one vendors of pirated content. Movies, anime, music you name it. But better copies of anime is usually found at better locations than your regular back alley.
I can remember buying the whole Mai-HiMe and Mai Otome from Comic Alley in Mega Mall. Shits in neat DVD with cover included. I only paid Php 90 per disk.
Now if anime is legally just as available like that, I wouldn't mind buying the legal. But of course it isn't and the Philippines is the piracy capital of Asia so I got no choice.
Sure, but they woke the dragon and the dragon still had it's teeth.
No, there wasn't a single aircraft carrier in port. Yamamoto wasn't lucky enough.
There was little reason to go after the docks or fuel tanks, remember the goal was to destroy the
fleet, not the maintenance base.
Agree, but just so you know, if that DVD was original, the process would be the same, but you'd have to dish out at least 800, I estimate. Unfortunately, to me, that does break the camel's back. And his joints. And his neck.
>Stopping piracy with force/oppression
Haven't the japs learned anything at all?
Just look at fucking Steam. PC was a clusterfuck of piracy and Valve fixed mostly, sure there still piracy but lots of people now buy games. That's due to competitive pricing, good service and direct support to the companies.
Trying to block piracy only brings more piracy.
The only problem with animu and mango are the licenses and shit. If there could be something like Steam for it without that BS it would be great. I try to watch from CR but more often than not they're "not avaible in my area".
Anime and manga doesn't have enough official translations to get the same amount of diversity it has in Japan, which is why most of us rely on fan translations. They would need to do more translations if they wanted more people outside of Japan to willingly buy their works, and most translated works don't even support anything other than the translators anyways. If they want to get an equal profit from overseas, then anime and manga would become much more expensive than in Japan do to the added costs of translations and such.
Probably the best thing for Japan to do is to just get more of the more profitable series overseas and forget the rest, shows like maybe Vanguard or Precure which generate most of their profits through collectables and merchandises and also target mostly kids but has potential with adults as well. Small stuff that comes and goes every season or so would just be unnecessarily expensive and too risky to take overseas.
“We're invulnerable pirates, har har har!”
“No one will ever money for anime!”
Same circlejerking as ever.
You are always talking about sentient people making decisions, that's a very common mistake. Most consumers are not like that. Industry's aim is people who type "anime name download" into Google and never go past first page. They learned where to click and can't even explain the difference between streams and torrents. “Technology? Detectability? Censorship resistance? Nah, the fuck if I'd known”. Any copyright campaign puts technical means after brainwashing those people and guiding them to official services. Just making them watch ads on a “free” site creases some revenue, and many can give 5 or 10 bucks for “premium” features after proper handling. Why do you think there is so many shitty anime and manga sites for dummies? Because there *is* a demand — and a way to make money. Owners naturally think it should be their money.
I rarely see Chinese peers on Nyaatorrents' torrents. Because of political censorship and language barrier, Chinese are using Chinese services and Chinese software that don't care about copyright. In case you don't know, Popcorn Time is not an original idea at all. There is plenty of one-click clients for dumb users on developing markets, mostly bundled with adware and viruses. They are very effective, and that's why MAFIAA will never allow such thing in the West. Not because of countless users who use torrents *now*, but because of *possible* number of infected users from general public who can switch from iTunes, etc.
Anyway, there is *a lot* of Japanese flags in my torrent client. And Japanese have shops, legal streaming, etc. and are expected to spend their yens. I think well-known trackers should be alert more than shitty streaming sites.
Number of conscious users (us) who understand what they are paying for is much smaller. And, honestly, a chance to watch 2-4 movies a year on festivals or in selected theaters worths supporting struggling local publishers. It is better than nothing at all.
The main problem, of course, is that I don't want to have anything in common with people shown in the video.
>580 foreign pirate sites
Shit, that's a lot. But I doubt the smart ones won't respond to them because they don't have any obligation to. The shitty ones all hosted in the US will though, which will kind of impact how those plebs from your high school will watch anime here in the US. Crunchyroll's gonna be getting a lot more subscriptions.
It's fun in the start, but there have been constant threads about it over and over.
Nyaa won't get affected, neither raws, neither Bakabt, neither animebytes.
>scanlation is pretty much fucked up
It isn't though, yeah it was affected, but it isn't near being fucked up.
Reposting deserves more reposting
>fans have episodes ripped, translated, and uploaded in 720p within hours of an episode airing
Meanwhile Japan wonders why there's such a huge piracy problem.
Ha! What Japan doesn't know is that all these years of watching aneemays, I've secretly the aneemay language, and even if they shut down all of the fansubs, I will just scour the net for the raws and be on my way!
Unlike anime, manga doesn't automatically come in a digitized format, and for every existing anime, there's a lot more manga.
Point is, don't expect it to happen any time soon.
Fuck my imouto, then jump in the mecha and destroy this counrty to build my own.
>Because you have a single bot
And then if the single bot and the fansub team disappears, you can't download the file anymore. Unlike torrents where you can still download the file even if the fansub team is dead.
XDCC is pretty conveniant though for public networks and shit.
You seriously think that they will go after stream sites when Nyaa and torrents exist? This is addressed to everyone in the thread too. They won't even be able to get rid of streaming sites like AnimeFreak because the content isn't even hosted on the site. When I used them in the past, all the videos were just embedded from Dailymotion and Megavideo. Unlike streaming sites, fansubbers actually distribute the material by themselves. I don't see any mention of them going after streaming sites to begin with.
The way I see it, fansubbing taking a small to moderate hit is possible.
We have som high quality shit, m8. No download ratings, BTW.
Or noes, they might close a site or two!
Replaced by a dozen or two new sites within the same fucking week.
What kind of fucking retard thinks any of this will actually have any real impact?
>Do you know what the revenue difference is between 0 people buying something and 10000000000000 people pirating something?
I have around 42TB of total storage right now. Around 14TB is devoted solely to anime currently, and that is not even taking into account what I watched already and deleted.
If it weren't for free animu, though, I would have outgrown the hobby by now since there are NO FUCKING ALTERNATIVES that aren't streaming with piss poor quality of selling my kidney to buy bluerays.
However, I also spend around 10k yen monthly on figmas and stupid shit like that. Had I outgrown the hobby, I wouldn't be buying the merchandise either.
We Americans should demand free anime as reparations for WW2.
Nothing will happen. Absolutely nothing. Nips are known for being completely out of touch with reality and can't enforce shit outside of their borders.
>We are announcing a new format for scanlations. We discovered RAW format allows you to see the black tint slightly better in optimum light and viewing conditions, so we'll be releasing them like that from now on.
>in partnership with the US for this operation.
Look at movies. Look at TV series. They are a lot more high profile and the USA have an actual interest in stopping those due to heavy lobbying.
Now search "insert your favorite movie here" +torrent on google and see what happens.
Why would it be any different with anime? If anything, less effort will be made to stop this.
If there were broadly accepted standards for image size and format, typesetting, and archive containers (use .cb* you nerds) I would literally jump up and down and do fistpumps in excitement.
My favorite thing is when you're trying to find an older and less popular JAV and you finally track it down on Akiba-Online or wherever and it's only ever been uploaded once and it was split into twelve parts and posted to Megaupload and nowhere else.
I love that the most.
No no, don't get me wrong. I still stand that the single operation did work. But it's not like the entire war hinged on fucking Pearl Harbor. The Imperial Navy performed pretty shit outside this one victory. You can call it beginner's luck, if you want.
Well, having a standard for scanlation would be great, I concur. I never got why people don't use .cbz either like the comic book scangroups do.
Buty don't let Daiz make the standard! He would somehow break compatibility with tablets, cellphones and make it run only on overclocked i5s. Maybe he would convert all the pages into a movie-slideshow encoded in hi10p.
I would actually pay for crunchyroll if:
1- The translation wasn't so hit and miss and the typesetting atrocious
2- The quality wasn't comparable to jewtube
3- Fast releases
4- Fair monthly prices
5- Ability to download the videos instead of streaming like a moron
The day they do this, I will subscribe.
I have a specific fetish that is usually only found in conjunction with others that I find unappealing. It's gotten to the point where I can only make my penis work for really pure vanilla h-manga, or this one niche of 3D porn. Sometimes you don't want to masturbate to manga, and that's when this situation comes up.
Actually, if America hadn't dropped the bomb as soon as it did, the USSR was already raring and ready to go over the Japanese mainland like... an alcoholic russian toppling over a crate of vodka.
If that had happened, most of your anime right now would have Russian references, if not actually be in Russian.
No, he'd just demand ultra-hq scans and releases meaning that 95% of the viewing public would have to downscale the images to fit their screens, thereby inducing hideous moire patterns in the screentones.
It's fast and 5 bucks for timely releases is ok. The real problems are the other factors. Only thing it has going for it right now would be the fast translation and variety of shows per season and those are not worth your money when remux and sub edits are mandatory for wanting quality.
>my isp doesn't care
>my country"s government doesn't care
>the countries where main torrent tracker servers are"s governments don't care
>nips have no way of actually enforcing anything dealing with this internationally
>whatever happens, we'll always have dcc
how much of this is true?
Actually, we were pretty much fucked up after beating Hitler. The war with Japan could be possible only with the help of the US.
BTW, Russians never touched other countries cultures, like France and Germany, that we won in some wars and pretty much invaded. Now Japan is under the US contol, but you see, that anime is still asian.
The only good thing about Rutracker anime torrents is speed. Metadata organization is awful.
— Everyone remux everything from any foreign/local release. You are very lucky if partial source is mentioned somewhere in the description.
— No one of those fuckers uses AniDB. It would be useless anyway as torrents are constantly updated, rehashed, and updated by “better” versions according to the rules, and rules don't favor consistent releases in any way.
— Raws are disallowed, and most files are injected with horrible fandub (or five of them, for the glory of Satan). That also rules out bonuses.
— Years of drama and tension between mods, groups, fandubbers and their supporters I don't even want to think about.
Yeah, but as >>111280720 a lot of stuff that was only there got lost. Still, it was fun to see how everyone fucked up gov's sites and whatnot.
I doubt that the amphibious operation needed to take the Japanese islands would've been too much for the Soviets to handle, it would be some time before they could get all the necessary logistics in place for such an assault, and by then the American landing in the southern parts of Japan would already be in full swing. The most likely scenario is that had the nukes not been dropped, the war would've lasted maybe another year with the American moving slowly up and eastward suffering immense casualties. Then, if the Soviets invaded, They'd move southward from Hokkaido and Aomori. The end result would be a Japan divided North/ South, or East/West depending on fast the Soviets moved.
Another thing wrong is that they claim that they lose a lot of money to piracy, when their actual BDs cost a small fortune to buy anyway. Plus, it's partially their fault due to those ridiculous prices. Sure, otaku will be willing to pay whatever price, but what about the masses? Heck, most people outside of Japan? Even within Japan, the late-night anime industry is already niche (I know, I've been to Japan, and outside of Akihabara you barely see anything anime-related other than mainstream fare outside of specialized anime stores), but it's like the industry is doing their best to only make it more niche.
The sad thing is that, the industry in general claims that they lose a lot of money due to piracy, but still earn so much money, the amount of money that other industries can only dream about.
Then why don't they want to actually increase their fanbase?
Well, the problem with scanlations now is that too much stuff is consolidated.
mangaupdates is the only scanlations listing site left. batoto and the mangafox/mangacow/mangapanda (run by the same people) are the only major reader sites, and we've now shifted to reader sites/reader technology as the major force in the scanlation world. If those are targeted, we're in trouble.
animesuki user-base migrated to tokyotosho, lurk irc user-base migrated to reader websites, and hongfire user-base migrated to anime-sharing.
Reader sites have no current alternative. Unless the community commits to irc again, I think we'll be going back digging around for ddls ( which will be meager since even collecting, storing, and sharing scans of manga is expensive and time consuming)
Lol yes, cause you see, they have some HQ rips, some even better than Bakabt. And you can always get English subs from subs.com.ru. Youse-raws with seeds, ANE and shit, this site is good. Stop whining about descriptions and other stuff, cause nobody cares, look at nyaa.
Reminder that you can have Daiz banished from /a/.
The chances of it working are nonexistent, but he's still a dick.
Supporting what, the anime-a-geddon?
No, thanks. I have no intention of being a hostage to the nips. "Oh, no, Kodomo no Jikan is too avant garde for dem baka gaijins! Lets give them more Pretty Cure instead."
Fuck this shit. Nothing good can ever come from Japan's business decisions.
Animu only sells to a few thousand otaku BECAUSE OF THE HORRIFYING PRICES!
Besides, they can sell a lot of merchandise to cover production costs, to the point that many shows are made solely as merch sellers.
Ukrainians (and Belorussians) are basically Russia Light, but yes, You could really go on for quite some time listing the cultures and peoples that Russians attempted to alter or outright destroy.
Pearl Harbor was the exact opposite of beginner's luck.
They had the worst possible outcome in every single way; they missed a shitton of bombs due to the wrong signal given(They had two signals revolving around movement, one if they were spotted and one if they weren't), the US carriers were out, they sunk the ships in a harbor(Allowing the men to be saved/ships to be repaired), the landing docks/repair shit wasn't bombed either, they aimed mainly for battleships, ect.
The only lucky part was that the US was too cocky to anticipate the attack.
>Japan and US cannot into warnings and reasonable advice.
"Eyy lmao maybe Pearl Harbor is a little exposed you might want to geton that"
"EYY yo maybe you folks should stop investing in battleships and get some more carriers instead... also the top-level brass are honor indulged retards, don't listen to em'. Operation Ten-Go is a horrible idea, maybe you should just surrender..."
Also,I remember there was a paper on how successful Pearl Harbor was in term of accuracy and how many bombs hit. I think it was something ridiculously low like 30% due to how much of a massive clusterfuck it was.
> but all of us here, we'll live to see the end of the internet. It's coming.
End of the internet for normalfags, you mean. It will end up in a point where only through either convoluted or super sekkrit ways will you be able to download shit. But outright stop? Impossible. /g/ will save us.
They're Russians. Kiev was the capital of Russia and we have the same culture.
Christian brothers. Stalin was from Georgia, they lived in Paradise in the USSR.
They inveded Russia and stayed here. Then we beat the crap out of them and let some stay as our people.
>every illegal download of X is exactly equal to a loss of the full retail value of X
I thought we'd gotten past this...
But the reason why
usFlips buy those pirated DVDs is because the official ones are too expensive. They sell for like $20. Given that the average monthly income is around $230, having a large collection of the latest DVDs isn't exactly the priority in most Flips' minds.
I still have these links in my bookmarks:
N/S Eyes Release List - Asiansthetic Forum
YS-Web Release List - Asiansthetic Forum
Asiansthetic's dead and there is still no such thing as structured public list of models of biggest gravure magazines. Where is the new forum? I've waited for years, there isn't any.
>and it wont have mass appeal anyway.
Bullshit. See how fucking popular Dragonball was. There are many other examples as well - DBZ is universal, but, for example, Saint Seiya was fucking huge in latin countries. Not all anime has mainstream appeal, true enough, but the same can be said of music or videogames.
>they even bothered to get rid
They didn't. Russian politics disbanded USSR without asking anybody. And you know, politics is just a dirty game all about money. I am russian and I never met any Russian, who cared about Czechs or Poland. And you can see their cultures pretty much untouched.
And yet Poles and Czechs constantly bitch about how poorly they were treated by both Imperial Russia and the USSR. There's also all the revolts and rebellions that happened during the Cold War in the Warsaw Pact that were against Soviet control, and the times that the Soviets came in and straight up murdered thousands of protesters in Czechoslovakia and Hungary. I'm sure many if your friends just thing all that stuff is western lies.
>the best doll I ever saw
It's some kind of a series, that you can customize, tune and do this and that.
It was some military abuse to get closer to the Europe. No cultural stuff involved. BTW, in Russia only few know about this part of history, cause the info wasn't public.
>murdered thousands of protesters in Czechoslovakia and Hungary
Never heard of it. Maybe it's true. Anyway, it's not /a/ related.
>So, basically, you buy the custom parts and assemble it yourself? Kinda like a moe gundam?
You buy the doll and some parts. As far as I know. I saw them in some threads on one russian board.
Is it really that hard to implement this well?
Why can't they just provide all anime, all manga, all hentai, all hmanga, in any format, in any resolution, in any codec, drm free, download or stream.
There has to be no region lock so it can be available world wide. I can't access a single link they provide due to my location.
Get rid of licensing shit, this seems to be a major Jewish invention to get money to people that didn't create the content and inherently creates region blocks. Therefore the majority of the money should go to the content creators.
Should pricing be subscription based or pay per anime/manga?
All that you propose would require cooperation with the clustrfuck that is international law. Furthermore, it would require radically changing the industry, maybe even eliminating stock-based markets. That will certainly not happen for now.
BD remuxes are usually not much higher quality than a good encode with some filtering. Usually the BD's are pretty bad and full of banding, some of which can be fixed by player debanding, but not as well as higher quality algorithms.
Also, aliasing issues which can't be fixed with a simple filter. See [Meguca] for Italian BD superiority over JP BD.
The raw providers for fansub groups aren't in any danger. If you use SFTP to transfer the recorded episodes, you would never get caught. It's only if you try to share them on Japanese file-sharing which is no longer secure and anonymous.
XDCC will always be an option, get fucked you slant eyed jews.
The irony is that the western fanbase as it is wouldn't exist without pirating. The y actually gained money from this because some people got interested enough that they eventually started buying some things instead of simply downloading it.
anime is niche, manga is not. Most people on /a/ don't realize that they are vastly different industries with different attitudes. One of the fucking prime ministers of japan admitted to reading manga.
Way to miss the point, you fucknugget
is asking why anyone would care about streaming sites, as in why anyone in /a/ should give a shit if streaming sites have to switch webhosts, he's essentially asking why you're wasting our time by bringing them up.
Japan cares. As in both official distributors because they supposedly lose billions of shekels and people living in rural areas that don't air anime at all and illegal streaming sites are their only way to watch anime without a week delay.
Well, actually the days of re-uploading from Japanese P2P are long gone because all Share encoders quit, so most raws you see on Nyaa are original encodes. What's more funny, Japanese people rely on those as their only source as opposed to few years ago when foreigners relied on the Japanese.
Are you acting this much like a retard on purpose, or are you really that stupid? The point was never whether or not Japan cares, of course they care. The point is that nobody on /a/ cares about streaming sites so talking about them is a waste of time. Japan will probably target them because the ignorant majority that make up the foreign anime fandom use them and torrents will be left alone because only people "in the know" use them.
The sight of ignorant newfags on /a/ is an affront to my senses, I was trying to be kind by informing you, yet you proved to be too dense to pick up on it.
>Inb4 i was only pretending to be retarded.
And that's nothing compared to the total number of anime watchers in Japan. Also the problem with torrents is that Japan has prison terms for downloading shit now, so maybe not everyone is willing to take risks of exposing your IP to everyone.