Hey /a/, do you enjoy romance manga/anime which aren't a harem?
I really enjoy them from time to time, it gives me warm and fuzzy feelings.
Haremshit a shit.
I've been on a fluffy romance binge lately, myself. Shame most of the stuff I haven't already read only has a couple chapters out on average.
I dropped Horimiya, though.
This too, romance comedy is the best.
I like watching happy couples being happy without too much drama involved, although I'll make an exception sometimes.
Have you guys read Bonnouji or Tasogare Otome?
I hate harems. I like it when 1 person loves another person and there's no problems whatsoever.
>Tfw barely any anime like that with tsunderes in it.
Comic Studio is the best I've read.
I read a decent amount. I loved Comic Studio. I read it because it was cute and the chick was kind of a tsundere. I also enjoyed the art.
In romance manga, I don't care about plot or anything like that.
Bonnouji really was great, both characters were extremely likeable.
If you guys like romance without having a harem involved, you should read China Girl, Molester Man and Jigokuren.
No, I mean... the art is "cute" but clumsily drawn, the character relationships are cliched and have been executed before much better in dozens of other series, and I couldn't shake the feeling I was reading a weird alternate universe Lucky Channel doujinshi(and I'd still like to know whether that was intentional, because if it wasn't I have no idea how the mangaka got away with it).
This is the only manga worthy of your shit taste.
3D Kanojo is great, a real hidden gem that more romance fans need to check out.
The main relationship in Horimiya bored me to tears and I was only reading it for Sakura being best girl, so I ended up dropping it when a kind anon confirmed for me that in the end
she loses to the FUCKING GODDAMN GENERIC "CHILDHOOD FRIEND WHO CAN'T BE HONEST WITH HER FEELINGS" CHARACTER DAMMIT FUCK YOU JAPAN THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
Uh, yeah. You get the idea.
Funny, I picked it up yesterday and finished it today.
It's a shame that the girl is going to die.
The bit where he was accused of being a pedophile made me rage
Also, it's weird knowing that a woman wrote a manga where the love interest is a boring otaku. Guess you have to do everything to get dem otaku bux.
Harems suck all the romance out of the story.
Shit moves slow enough when it's just 2 people, when it's 5 or 6, it's 90% fanservice, cockblocking and nothing, then the MC picks worst girl for no reason at the end.
The premise is kind of stereotypical, but I really like how MC actually struggles hard to grow into his relationship. Too many manga falls into that trap, where a relationship would suddenly transform an otaku into someone popular, understanding, and handsome.
I find it amazing that the girl is actually putting up with all of his awkwardness and mistakes.
But it's a manga, aimed at getting money out of the otaku audience, so it's only natural.
Yeah, it's kind of weird that the girl takes a step back, lost all her bitchness, and just became a generic princess character. The character progression feels like an inversion of Horimiya in that way. Miya also suffered that kind of reversion and revert into a popular bishounen character.
The main reason I like harems is that there's a choice of girls with different personalities to like. Ideal harem is 3 people, anymore and it either drags like fuck or certain girls become irrelevant. The main problem I find in harems is that the story gets dragged out as long as the budget lasts. The author just bloats the manga with completely irrelevant stories until the budget runs out, and then ends with the shittiest open/harem end. There's very little sense of closure in a harem romance which is almost always present in a single romance.
The main problem with non harems is that if the main girl isn't likeable, then you're fucked.
>lost all her bitchness, and just became a generic princess character
No, girls don't work that way.
She's still bitchy and rude to most people, but she opens up before her boyfriend.
She also got friends, so that probably changed her personality a bit.
I really hate harem because the conclusion is basically irrelevant to the plot. All endings are inherently plausible in a harem. When you get every choice, you might as well have none.
I don't like harems because of the chronic "S-S-S-SORRY, DON'T MISUNDERSTAND" situations there are. Is it so wrong for me to want to see a nice couple do sweet, couple things together? Pic not manga but still related.
I know, I've been dying for a new chapter.
I wonder how long it will take before we get actual romance. Instead of that weird half-assed relationship which absolutely would look like dating to any outsider observing it.
Well, otaku literally tore up books when they discover the girl has had prior relations, how do you think they'll react when the girl move on? Sometimes it works if the male partner is introduced from the early on, but remember that you don't have to be the main girl to be an object of obsession. Even in Love Hina where the main couple is hours away from marrying, the other girls are still planning to steal him away.
IS THIS REALLY SO MUCH TO ASK FOR?
That kind of obsession with "purity" is something that really pisses me off. Not the fact that some people value it, as such, but the fact that it has such an influence on media I like. It's cancer, really.
Agreed about "purity" in that context. It's pretty fucking retarded how hypocritical it is too for harem fans.
oh noooo muh kawaii virgin waifu is a slut, now what do i do with these seven other bitches comin after muh dick
I just want some good old-fashioned monogamy.
More than a non-virgin girl though, what I want to see is the main guy actually having real, previous relationship with some other guy before. Most of the time when it happens it's just some girl he knows from the past, or a childhood friend obsessed with a promise made when they''re both still learning to write.
I have a soft spot for inexperienced MCs
because it's so easy for me to relate to thembut something like that would be cool, too. First love being the one true love is cute and all but it seems to be a bit too prevalent in romance anime and manga.
I'd like to second this. Non harem + tsundere sounds like fun. I just read through what there of Bocchi na Bokura no Renai Jijou, which seemed pretty good.
And of course there's scads of AxS fanfic out there, I'm sure some of it qualifies. Help, I can't stop.
But doesn't that have NTR and emotional suffering?
I don't like that, for some reason when cute 2D women are acting like 3D ones, it makes them a thousand times more cruel and heartless than normal 3D women.
Not really, you're talking as if he were planning how to steal her while he has sex with the cake. He isn't actually pursuing a relationship with the other girls and shows himself completely uncomfortable with his feelings when they're together.
>He thought about boning his best friend's girlfriend
Every normal guy has those thoughts.
It's clear that you're just a fat, frustrated femanon who doesn't get any and is still on an emotional level of a grade schooler.
I actually love spoon feeding. You're welcome.
Um...I think all I can say is that you should try to get all the way through it...
>Every normal guy has those thoughts.
Yeah, I think I have probably had some sexual thoughts about most reasonably attractive women I've met. This does not translate to actively pursuing every female on sight, or even taking advantage of opportunities for sex when they present themselves.
> This is real romance
You've seen the rest of Shinkai's stuff, right?
J-just you wait, anon. Dump starts.
You never know how you'll meet the girl of your dreams anon!
I'm saying that having thoughts like that is part of the normal, involuntary function of the male mind and implies neither intention nor desire to take any particular course of action. So no, I'm not implying that.
Would anybody else literally
killto hold hands with someone lovely?
Yes, but for that to happen would you
>Then you're not 111436741
Holy fuck dude.
Nah, I don't think that's the way it works.
You're supposed to wait until she knocks on your door.
Harem became boring to me once I realized that whatever girl on the cover of the first book will inevitably win. All of the love n-sided shape drama that comes after becomes boring.
The girl who wins is always the one with mass appeal, rarely number one on anyone's list but a popular number two choice, guaranteeing the more interesting girls who are introduced later to their inevitable loss.
A whole toaster might be overdoing it a bit, and this approach only works for girls anyway.
Anyone gets frustrated by how compartmentize romance manga is? Like you know exactly where the story ends - a confession, a kiss, sex, etc - just by what genre of romance the manga fits into.
I like romance anime but I've noticed most have pretty pleb characters and are full of cliches.
Something like Nana greatly amused me. Not too big on comedy romance but Oregairu hit some good spots with me as well and made me pick up the LN.
Yeah. Sometimes I like predictable stories. There is a certain comfortable, relaxing feeling in reading such a story, at least as long as it is reasonably well told. Some more uncertainty and surprises would do the romance genre good, though.
I just want to see cute couples doing cute things.
I am completely stuck at romance manga right now for some reason, the non-harem ones.
Quite surprised no-one has mentioned A Method To Make The Gentle World yet, picture related.
Ongoing _good_ baits:
> Fujiyama-san wa Shishunki
> Sakurasaku Shoukougun
> Nana to Kaoru
Koe no Katachi
Ongoing meh-tier baits:
> Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou
> Tonari no Kashiwagi-san
> Hantsu x Torasshu
> Isshuukan Friends.
> Half & Half (SEO Kouji)
> Hadi Girl
> Haru no Houtai Shoujo
> Eyami no Kami
> Ojou-sama wa Nigedashita
> Tadashikunai Renai no Susume
> Hatsukoi Shinjuu
Mysterious Girlfriend X
Anyone else reading Soredemo boku wa kimi ga suki? Looks like it just started getting scanlated as there are only three chapters out, but I'm figuratively dying for more.
Does anyone else really like it when a guy is feeling insecure and thinks that he's nowhere near good enough for the girl, and then she gets really mad at him for thinking that?
I think it's really cute.
Reminds me of a Town where You Rage.
It's essentially a guy having flashbacks of him fucking up every relationship up until now. It'll be a while until we finish flashbacks and return to the present, where he probably
breaks up with every girl again
>do you enjoy romance manga/anime which aren't a harem?
You kidding, mate? I enjoy only non-harem manga and anine.
Sugoi monogatari, onii-chan.
It is harem. Also mc is the biggest faggot for forcing himself on loner girl in the very first chapter. Also it seem mc has been with a lot other girls. This is the worst kind of manga for me. I had picked it up after seeing the first few pages and expecting cute romance between loner girl and mc. Hell, there wasn't even a Harem tag for it in mangaupdates when I picked it! Now I am about to drop it soon
Sorry for the rant. But this manga annoyed the hell out of me. Why the fuck would that faggot mc be an ass to my cute loner girl?!!!
I'd recommend Ojojojo. It's a 4koma, but they still manage to make progress
Alright, how many of you faggots would romance a dead girl?
Because I most definitely would.
Oh, that manga about a 30 year old virgin and his cupid who would give him relationship protips was also pretty nice.
There's no chance that a real life girl would have put up with all the fuck-ups that he made.
You guys are definitely right. But the way I see it, right now it's kinda like an Amagami omnibus where we see at least see a few moments of a cute couples doing cute things...and that's all I need.
>I told him that I prefer an otaku.
>That looks and age don't matter.
>That it should be someone who often comes to Akihabara.
>That someone who likes "I'm Gonna Be An Angel!" would be perfect.
>I said all that and it was so obvious that it could only be CanBadgeww And yet, he was like "Hmmm..." and seemed to be seriously going through his list of friends in his mind.
>"I know someone who's perfect.", he said.
>"I'll bring him here next weekw", he said.
Oh boy, the appearance of that femanon must have been really awful.
I mean, having standards this low and still having trouble to find a boyfriend really says a lot.
Someone recommend me some good manga please. I don't like harems, and I don't mind but prefer to avoid ecchi. Mangas I enjoyed are ojojojo, 14 sai no Kai, yandere kanojo, horimiya (though it's main story is getting dull). I read a bit of 3D kanojo, but couldn't get into it.
There's a whole bunch in this thread anon.
I recommend you start off with the softest.
What was the name of that manga about a guy and his socially retarded girlfriend?
I remember there was this one scene in it where she walked into his class and loudly said something along the lines of "MC-kun, let's go take a shit".
>I know it's not a nice way to put it, but CanBadge is like a textbook example of an Akihabara otaku. His clothes, his hairstyle, everything about him screams otaku.
>He's the kind of guy that walks around with a huge tote bag with Key anime heroine can badges attached to it and wears a matching T-shirt with anime characters on it.
>I've never been one to care about looks, but for some reason, all my past boyfriends happened to be handsome, smartly dressed guys.
>I was thinking "First thing I'll do once we start
dating is go shopping with him to pick out clothes for him. I can't introduce him to my friends with him looking like this.".
>I know it was incredibly rude and conceited of me, but that's what was going through my head back then. orz
That's really nice of her, deciding to help a guy improve himself instead of just rejecting him straight away.
Going through it now.
OH SHIT, I remember reading that manga a while ago, but then I caught up, and then completely forgot about it, because of its update schedule
Fujiyama-san wa Shishunki and Sakurasaku Shoukougun sound interesting, I really couldn't see the appeal of Nana to Kaoru (I hate worthless MCs that somehow get an apparently good girl). Other two are okay.
I hate Mysterious Girlfriend X, and will probably go on a rant about how much I hate this fucking manga that spoiled a really good one shot by a story that literally goes nowhere.
I'm not sure how I feel about the most recent development, it seems a bit excessive to me.
I've liked the manga so far, so I really don't want to see it get really bogged down in DRAMA.
Never heard of China Girl, but it looks REALLY interesting, will probably finish it all right now. Couldn't get into Molester Man, I felt the story moved a bit too slow, and the art work really turned me off.
Ore ga Doutei wo Sutetara Shinu Ken ni Tsuite sounds really interesting, I really like mangas that deal with going back in time to redo what they did
I liked Again before I felt it turned to shit, so will check that out. Itoshi no Karin's overview seems really plain, could you sort of explain the story to me? I don't really like manga where the MC has is plain in every aspect, and somehow manages to get the most most popular girl in the school, since it always feels like selfinsert bait. Evergreen sounds cool, might check it out.
Itoshi no Karin is really plain and really is a selfinsert bait, though an incredibly well-handled one. I normally don't like them either, but there's at least some potential in this one. If they handle it well, it could get amazing.
That's what I'm saying.
The conflicts thus far had been fairly standard high school/teenager stuff, though executed quite nicely.
I feel like if the author isn't careful, things can go to shit very quickly. And not in the good way.
Man, don't you just love it when you go to take a shit, and a huge log slides out almost instantly and without any effort. Then when you go to wipe yourself, the toilet paper is pretty much clean and doesn't have any traces of shit left on it.
It's at times like this when I truly feel that all is right with the world.
That story is getting interesting.
But boy, either jap women are fucking weird, or that femanon is pretty ugly. There's no other explanation as to why she's being so tolerant about a guy's weird quirks and has such low expectations.
I enjoy harem but I just dropped Mushoku Tensei because I heard it goes full blown
Got into Hi Score Girl recently. Scans can't come out fast enough.
Boku Dake ga Inai Machi seems interesting, but how often does it update? Don't want to start a manga that has little/no chance of being continued, since I see the last update was ~90 days ago
Will add it to my list, thanks.
>I said "It's nothing." and went home as if I was running from him.
>Back at home, I peeled off the Shuffle stickers in front of my PC, crumbled them up and burned them with a lighterwwwwww
>Then I went to 2ch and started a thread in the romance board.
>I still haven't forgotten its titlewwwww It was "I FUCKING HATE 2D!"wwwww It died after only a few posts thoughwwwww
It's just like my japanese animes!
This. I grew to like it too. Especially the eyes. Also, once they get older the art sorta changes to less chibi-ish since they are no longer 3rd graders or whatever.
Anyway, as long as there is something I enjoy about a manga I can read it. Art is one of the least important aspects to me, but for this manga I find it unique and interesting to look at.
There is some drama, but nothing quite as far as NTR.
In my opinion UxU is worth the read; just be prepared for an incredibly shitty ending to an otherwise quiet good romance story.
See, I'm fine with stuff like 3D kanojo where you can tell that it's shoujo, but it's not too offensive on the eyes and doesn't have those exaggerated eyes and hands, together with girls who look like lifeless dolls.
We're three now. That's why I can't stand some of the old shoujo manga and anime, and the new ones that seem to be going back to that
Part of the reason I never really liked Sailor Moon
Ugh. No idea why they are so popular as the paneling is so garbage. I do read plenty of them but on a computer with scrolling they are so annoying.
I have heard, and it seems believable that rather than practice drawing by copying their favorite manga rather than real life things. This is so obvious with things like hands.The best manga artists out there can also draw in the 3D realistic style instead of just anime characters.
And on that note, the generic shoujo style is better now than it used to be.
>I have heard, and it seems believable that rather than practice drawing by becoming good artists, they practice off of their favorite manga.
I accidentally the sentence structure.
I think it has something to do with the female brain.
I can instantly tell if a picture was drawn by a girl or not. There's always something off about the proportions. Male characters are usually tall and lanky, with extraordinarily large extremities.
This can't be a coincidence. I don't buy the theory in >>111443678; even when a female artist draws a shounen manga you find the very same anatomical discrepancies.
>Itoshi no Kana
sooo good. one of the few I reread frequently
and not just for the beautiful sex.
also, thanks for Bonnouji. A smile slowly creeps onto my face whenever I read it.
Most of the suffering mostly come from misunderstandings that get resolved in time and it's usually pointed towards Tsuntsun anyway. I just want more chapters pronto so I can see my happy ending God damn it.
I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm usually very withdrawn, I feel comfortable spending time on my own, which is part though not all of the reason why I don't have much of a social life. Reading romance manga reminds me that oh yeah, I would in fact like having a romantic relationship.
I think so too. It is scientifically confirmed that men are more "visual" when it comes to choosing sexual partners, due to that, it's only natural for them to include all the visual cues which turn them on in their art. When it comes to visual fetishes, breasts, feet, butts, zettai ryouiki, christmas cake, healthy, loli, etc. etc. etc. there are countless ones. This isn't nearly as pronounced when it comes to shoujo manga, where the characters are often very generic looking and mostly differ in terms of personality and choice of clothes. When it comes to visuals, you only often have tall and broad men with large hands. But otherwise it's visually really boring. Not nearly as varied as male oriented manga.
>Have you read China Girl?
I started reading that right in the middle of it.
It's finished now?
After reading it it made me want to try and start a little slice of life of when I was in middle school
I gave up on it though and only think about it when I have nothing better to do
I guess so, yeah. But I quickly remind myself how awful that would end and the feelings wane.
I like manga where there are multiple couples instead of a harem. Harems are really shitty, actually.
I think I'm gonna pick it back up along with a shitload of a buncha other romances that I abandoned and found in this thread
>I like manga where there are multiple couples instead of a harem
I like you
The manga goes much more in detail than the anime, has more arcs, and the ending is different.
Also, the circumstances of Yuuko's death are different.
I would say that the manga and the anime complement each other very well.
I read Usagi Drop entirely and the last few chapters gave me an aneurysm. The time skip should never have happened. I will check out Miman Renai like you said, thanks.
Ah, really? I only pick up completed stuff, so I'll go take a look at it. I actually liked the show and wanted to see more of it.
Spotted Flowers was kinda short but I think you'd like it
>Kamisama Kiss gets second season.
This made my day.
>I actually liked the show and wanted to see more of it.
Don't even hesitate and read the manga.
Anyone else read this?
I'm guessing timeskip is imminent.
I know shoujo romance loves to put up arbitrary walls to keep the couple apart and extend runtime, but "have to move back home eventually" might be one of the worst out there.
Imagine finding her like this after such a long journey. Do you guys think you'll ever be this happy?
"We may not be together forever, assuming you won't be okay moving out of the city in some years, something I actually don't know for sure since I never bothered to ask you, so we shouldn't be together at all."
Yeah, it was pretty stupid.
Romance has ALWAYS been my least favorite genre of anything. I can't stand it. The second they include that shit I become disgusted and drop it.
Guys, I have a shitload of romance manga on my backlog thanks to topics like these. Which ones do you think I should catch up on next?
Akagami no Shirayukihime
Ao Haru Ride
Bocchi na Bokura no Renai Jijou
Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou
Denkigai no Honya-san
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-Kun
Kanpeki Na Kanojo
Koi Dano Ai Dano
Kono Bijutsubu ni wa Mondai ga Aru!
Kyou no Yuiko-san
Love So Life
REIROUKAN KENZAI NARIYA
Renai Kaidan Sayoko-san
Sore wa Totsuzen, Unmei no Aite ga
Taiyou No Ie
Tonari no Kashiwagi-san
Wakabayashi Toshiya's 4-koma Collection
Watashitachi no Shiawase na Jikan
Watashitachi no Tamura-kun
Yasashii Sekai no Tsukurikata
Yome ga Kore na Monde.
>Wakabayashi Toshiya's 4-koma Collection
>Taiyou No Ie
> Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-Kun
>Akagami no Shirayukihime
I liked all of these read Wakabayashi first because it's pretty short read the rest in any order.
Love So Life is cute as fuck, not really have on romance though. Spotted flower is short, and I'm not sure about the rest. China Girl's artist apparently died, so it is a somewhat incomplete/rushed story. 3D Kanojo has come up a bit in this thread
but I didn't like it
I don't even think true love is enough of a concept to be considered a myth. It's kind of just two words put together to make one of those words seem more powerful. Like motherfucker or butt sex.
I understand that. I also know it would enrage fans of the other monster girls.
It could be done with a change of setting, though, but at that point you might as well make as new manga instead. Something like the MGE story turned into a manga, following the story of an adventurer - maybe the guy who defeated and married the Monster Lord.
One thing I have to say, though, is that the ecchi content on Monster Girl is glorious.
You have "Rub the Muff" on there, but not Ghost Yomi?
I only read romance/shoujo shit because it's pretty much the only anime/manga with actual couples that do things besides hold hands and kiss at the end of the series.
I don't give a fuck about the true love part.
Hi, thanks for recommending me that manga. I absolutely devoured it, and it is probably one of my favorite manga ever. I'm curious about the release schedule though, do you have any idea when the next chapter will come out? I actually got chills from reading it also
Sensei being the killer is too obvious