>>114140935 Because Nasu was warned off writing a Yakuza route by the Yakuza. And he had already spent 8 years writing F/SN, so he didn't want to devote the extra time and cost required to having more routes beyond the central 3, which ended up being crammed with all the plot and moral messages that the game was supposed to have.
Taiga route never Ilya route never Ajax route never
>>114141851 In the original draft for F/SN, Shirou was going to have a harem of seven girls/seven routes. Of those, the only explicitly mentioned in one of those Type-Moon art/production books was this "Nameless Servant," who was supposed to be a survivor of the 4th Holy Grail War that used a certain shield Noble Phantasm.
I don't have an image for some reason, but I liked the character design shown in the book.
Nasu ended up deciding 7 was too much and cut it down to 5. Then he decided he didn't have time to do Taiga and Ilya and cut it down to 3. Supposedly, according to interviews, Ilya's route would've been called Mind of Steel, but that might've been a joke on his part.
>>114142317 >Knew his Freud >Knew his discredited theories which posit that everyone but Freud himself wanted to fuck their mother >Didn't fuck Fuji-nee because he was afraid the Yakuza might pay him a visit
>>114142391 >In the original draft for F/SN, Shirou was going to have a harem of seven girls/seven routes. Of those, the only explicitly mentioned in one of those Type-Moon art/production books was this "Nameless Servant," who was supposed to be a survivor of the 4th Holy Grail War that used a certain shield Noble Phantasm. >I don't have an image for some reason, but I liked the character design shown in the book. >Nasu ended up deciding 7 was too much and cut it down to 5. Then he decided he didn't have time to do Taiga and Ilya and cut it down to 3. Supposedly, according to interviews, Ilya's route would've been called Mind of Steel, but that might've been a joke on his part.
>Based Yakuza fighting servants. >Taiga using the basics of CQC taught to her by servants. >Taiga and Seiba dream team.
>>114142391 Something about how her grandfather is supporting the Church in covering up the war, and something about the sealed curse inside Torashinai.
>>114142412 Bless the Wayback Machine, I found a link to Fuyuki Wiki!
>One of the heroine candidates back in the days when Shirou had a really big harem. A Servant with a shield that ended up killing her Master and was one of the "abandoned puppy" sort of heroines. Just like Gil, she stuck around since the last war. Would have been one of Saber's rivals.
>>114142391 I think Shirou would end up confessing to Taiga and she'd probably turn him down out of concern for her promise to Kiritsugu, before they ended up admitting that their love was more important. Also, Yakuza helping Shirou fight the HGW, possibly alongside Saber as Shirou's servant, and at least one motorcycle combat sequence.
>>114142592 >Implying the Yakuza don't have some ancient Japanese magic shit in stock >Implying Kiristugu wouldn't have left behind a stash of magical weaponry >Implying Taiga herself doesn't have some weird ass heretical magic going on
I imagine it would be something like Fate/Strange Fake with a police force armed with forgery NP
>>114142693 Even the monks at the temple and of the sacred bloodline have nothing left, and they were trained by a dragon. If the Yakuza could keep their Japanese magic secret from the 3 Families, I'd be impressed.
>>114142716 ...I would fucking love this. The route is divided cleanly between the Shirou he is at home with Taiga and the Kiritsugu/Shirou he is to protect her. He goes through the entire route doing his best to protect Taiga from the shadows like the Yakuza would to deal with a problem
Personally, I'd hope it avoids falling into the 'Shirou has to fuck someone in every route', if only because I like the pseudo-sibling relationship he has with Taiga and for that to be thrpwn overboard would be sad.
He doesn't have to fuck her for it to have meaning between them. They've known each other almost all of Shirou's life. His desire to protect her would indeed be stronger then it would for anyone else in any other route. See how desperate he was to protect her from Caster in UBW.
>>114144730 >Not appreciating the tragedy of Shirou being NTR'd in his own VN It would've been his very own airplane moment. Just like Kiritsugu was forced to kill Natalia, Shirou will be forced to drive Taiga insane when he slays the only D she desires.
Caster Class gets shit on a lot. So who do you think would make the best Caster servant? They all seem to be poets, writers, researchers, and mythical figures. Anybody particularly suited to being a tricky bastard?
>>114146100 Well, he DID ascend to godhood from mortal status. Would that be Divinity A? I know they say Gilgamesh should have the highest Divinity because he's 2/3rds god, but Gilgamesh is just a sue so he doesn't count.
Diomedes has to be Berserker, dude went so nuts he actually stabbed Aphrodite when the bitch tried to jank his kill. Then she went and cried to her bro Apollo, and HE got pushed around like a bitch until he was like "My dad will beat you up if you don't stop right now!!!"
Diomedes also had the best disses in the Iliad. Like when he literally calls Paris a gigantic faggot for being all happy after shooting him in the foot with a bow.
Solomon. His Seal and his Key would make an awesome Noble Phantasms, he had superhuman wisdom (including magic) granted to him directly by God, and he had 700 wives and 300 concubines. Tell me that doesn't sound like an interesting guy.
I'm worrying about Type-Moon... I know that many newfags didn't even read VNs / Light Novel F/Z and just watched shitty animu by Deen, Ufotable and JC Staff. And now even more retards will play in shitty April Fools' game, Fate/Extra and even worse CCC, watch Fate/Zero and Carnival Phantasm without even reading VNs/LNs and pretend to be TM-fags after that, make tons of shitty threads about characters and power levels. They will not be even familiar with the original art-style and will think that this shitty K-on CP is "okay", Morii-san's art is not pure shit, RCO Wada is nice and F/Z is soo kewl stylish and grim dark, also Fate/Extra is acceptable by any means with all this "wH0 iZ mai WAiFUUUU" & UmUshit whore of babbylon crap. Type-Moon is not supposed to be this popular, get the fuck out you narutards.
And now you can CLEARLY see all these "typemoonfags" of 2010-2013. Fucking horrible. You're not TYPE-MOON fans, but NEO-NARUTO-MOON fans.
I ordered Mahoyo and finished that shit VN in this year (2011 late release) while you are still sucking dicks for at least 5 years or so without the translation, fucking plebeians and casuals. But even Mahoyo was a PIECE of SHIT and BOMBED really hard. And what is more hilarious - Type-SHIT is pretending like it never happened and preferred to completely FORGOT about their new VN by making another absolutely IDIOTIC fate/shit such as EXTRA/SHIT and APOCRYSHIT.
And now Type-Moon decided to resurrect this shit Fate/Apocrypha like it wasn't enough to make Fate/Milking Sabers shit, their outbursting impotence and rectal dysfunction is taking them way far away from something actually new and original, you may suggest that Mahoyo is new but you'll be terribly wrong because the sequence of Mahoyo was made in 1996(!) year and the only "new" thing will be Girl's work but I'm not sure even about this, there's no guarantee that they didn't pull this shit out of someone's old ass again.
He's one of the first mages ever in literature. He had a mechanical throne that would follow him around and throw up a huge light show when he sat down, he had a chair made of light perched on an eagle that he would fly around on, his Seal made it so that animals would just run into his kitchen and throw themselves into the oven, and so on. Just loads of crazy shit.
Also his wisdom meant that all 1,000 of his wives+concubines were madly in love with him.
You pulled that off of Wikipedia I guess. He's fucking insane in the Iliad, not clever. He wounded the God of War himself (with help from Athena), and even Hector said something like "Achilles is strong, but Diomedes is fucking crazy." Zeus had to personally intervene to keep him from killing Hector and ending the war early.
>Diomedes immediately threw his spear at Hector, aiming for his head. This throw was dead accurate but the helmet given by Apollo saved Hector's life. Yet, the spear was sent with such great force that Hector swooned away.
The gods had to keep bailing Troy's one and only champion out from getting killed by him. What do you think?
But my favorite part is something I hadn't even thought about before:
>It is generally accepted that Athena is closest to Diomedes in the epic. In the early traditions, Athena (a virgin goddess) is described as being shy in the company of males. But she spoke to the hero without any disguise in Book V where he could see her in the true divine form.
"I-I'm not shy! I just don't like it when mortals gaze on my form. You're different, that's all! B-Baka."
>>114151001 >Shinji ... Fucking serious? Not even a dead Shinji so you make a pact with Rider deal, but straight up Shinji route? That would suck so hard, especially if he was always intended to be the cockbag he ended up being.
>>114151071 God damn. A Shinji route would be the worst thing for Sakura if Shinji's personality influenced Shirou and not the other way around. I don't think there would even be a way to get a consensual H-scene from a Shinji route
>>114151146 I would have to assume a Shinji route would have to like, pull a Heaven's Feel with his character, where you learned a shit ton more about him and basically completely changed your perspective on him. If Shinji stayed hoe we know him, a straight route with the guy would have to have Shirou turn into a massive cunt.
I would have preferred 7 routes, seven different Servants.
>Broing it up with Lancer >Being the bone of your sword with Archer >Riding Rider >Learning magic from Caster, teaching her how to housewife >Berserker...well, that's basically an Ilya route. But imagine learning how to Hero of Justice from fucking Hercules! >Learning how to properly sword from Assassin
>>114151172 >mars offers to help Athena and Ody. >mars we accept your help but don't get close to Athens >sure Ody. You know I already have Aphrodite. You feeling like I'm a competitor? >baka. It is not like odyseus and I have a relationship like that. >don't worry Athena I won't tell Zeus
>>114151332 What was written about it was that Rin and Sakura don't help them as much in it. But since we already know that Sakura was lending himj Rider because she didn't want to fight and felt sorry for him, obviously there are glaring character problems, which is why Nasu scrapped the idea. Medusa going against Sakura is about as far away from her character as Saber using Excalibur to flip pancakes in a diner.
It was implied that Shirou would turn against Shinji in the end., and it was too tongue in cheek to be considered a real route.
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