If you have a catalyst, but the Heroic Spirit can't be summoned into any of the available classes, what happens?
If someone would try summon a Servant that would conflict with the rules of the War (for example on Caster is left, but someone tries to summon a Knight who cant use any magic at all), then the grail simply wouldn't summon it. The grail has basically chosen all the Masters and Servants beforehand.
But that's because the actual meaning of the Archer-class isn't 'Bowman', but 'Ranger'. If someone utilizes several weapons and tactics, rather than just fighting with a single weapon, they will be an 'Archer'.
I've got no idea.
Nasu on what Classes Herakles is strongest as. He mentions Archer fits him best as it allows him to use his mind and tactics to their utmost, and he is a "Ranger-type character".
Maybe you'll get a related heroic spirit that qualifies for one of the available classes.
But, more likely, that situation just will not happen because of some combination of fate and the Counter Force.
Start's looking for someone related to the catalyst and also suitable for an open class.
E.g. You have Avalon, but everything save Caster is taken. In that case, Merlin or Morgana will show up.
Why is it Archer if none of the characters summoned as Archer use a Bow as their primary weapon?
Answer: Nasu thought it sounded cooler that way.
>use his mind and tactics to their utmost
>utilizes skills rather than strong stats
If saber has the best allrounder stats then that's what would fit Herakles best.
He rassles, he shoots arrows, he hits shit with clubs, he phalanx's it up, he sword n shields.
Saber would let him do his other shit well.
Excluding Noble Phantasms, Gil's only A-level stat is Luck. Other than that, he has the Charisma, Divinity, and Golden Rule Skills, all of which normally would be A-level or above.
By Nasu's standards, that's a ranger.
The Archer-class doesn't have as good stats, but it would provide the most fitting class for Herakles as it allows for more skills than usual, and is the one best suited for Nine Lives.
It put him into that class because it's a class for ranged weapon users, and because he doesn't actually know how to use the weapons within the GoB beyond the most basic sense.
But that's wrong. If it doesn't fit a class it can become a special class like Avenger and Buddha. In Avenger's case, this special class even replaced a class used in the battle to keep things balanced.
>why is it saber when they can use all sorts of weapons like clubs or axes!
>why is it lancer when they can use all sorts of long weapons like various polearms or ridiculously big swords!
But he must have high strength in order to draw the bow of Apollo. Speaking of which, sounds like a great noble phantasm.
Not to mention he has high magic resistance due to Circe's potion.
There's also the whole divine lineage thing, that must give him some sort of trait.
Independent action is a better trait for herakles than magic resistance, mad enhancement or battle continuation is. It makes him a bit easier to supply with mana and allows him to fight very independently of his master.
If you've read the Herakles mythology his strongest asset wasn't his strength, or his divinity, or etc... It was his intelligence.
So far Berserker Lancelot was the strongest servant.
Drawing out Arondight gives him full rank boost to all stats.
>B Magical Energy
All has protection of the fairies so Luck overides Magical attacks.
However also so far the most consuming prana servant.
Kariya died so that is why Lancelt lost.
Dark Sakura tier only would survive.
Actually no, in order to qualify as a lancer you *must have one 'long' weapon as a noble phantasm*. Just like sabers *must* have one 'sword' sized thing and riders *must* have a mount of some sort.
Those are part of the class container requirements
He's have extremely high mana, high luck (maybe even EX ranked?), and otherwise decent stats. The dude got a draw in wrestling against Ajax, and is considered the opposite in all ways to Achilles.
Either you get someone related to the catalyst that fits it, or if possible one of the "unused class" slots may happen like avenger/saviour/ruler etc etc
This all depends on whether or not they answer the call as well.
>all he does is outwit people.
>he was the only person even capable of stringing it
It wasn't because he was strong enough to string it but because it had a trick only he could solve. There were plenty of pricks stronger than him that tried to string it, it's a matter of torsion and applied strength rather than high quantity.
In the same fucking scene it says that Odysseus has god-like strength. I don't know where you're getting the trick thing from.
Odysseus wrestles with the grandson of Zeus, and is related to Hermes. He's strong.
The class system was both a 'necessity' (souls need vessels to be placed into) and designed to be rigged by the 3 families (tohsaka, einzburn, matou).
Everyone wants saber because it's perceived to be good (saber has always made it either to the end or very close to the end) - not because it's actually good, there's quite a few better servants, saber is just from a base stat standpoint the best container.
Caster was powerful too. All the Servants were, it's just the circumstances they were in.
Couldn't Caster summon a dragon or something? I would have loved if we got to see stuff like that instead of bone soldiers.
Define "powerful". Artoria and Cu would annihilate her, Archer could probably work around gorgon form, it offers no real advantage against Herakles.. so it just helps with Caster?
She would have died. We have this question basically in some form near every nasuverse thread, and the answer is-
It's a really shitty idea to turn into a monster in a battle between heros famous for killing monsters, or being general badass humans.
She could turn monstrous any time she wanted to, it ranked up her strength to A but caused her problems in some other ways.... and it's generally a bad thing to do in a war of 'heroes', as heroes exist to kill monsters.
She was a human goddess (her divinity rank would have matched gilgameshes) who was cursed and later set up to be the foil for another hero. The 'Proof of a Hero' can really be said to be the challenges they overcome, and Monstrous Rider was certainly one hell of a challenge.
Also berserkers are perceived to be bad/dangerous because every master who has summoned one has had issues controlling them to the point where *all of the magic was sucked out of them*. Not because the berserker class is bad, but because it's dangerous, some berserkers can really wreck shit.
No, Gilgamesh has Harpe (the weapon data only updates after encountering Gil). It's unclear what weapons Archer has access to, but it's definitely not the whole of the Gate of Babylon (at least until after UBW route, as he was spying on the whole fight).
A Servant class is half way between a mold and a bag. In some ways the heroic spirit is forced to take a shape by the mold, in some ways the heroic spirit forces the bag to accept the shape of the hero. There are no hard rules as to exactly how it breaks down.
Just remember, a Servant is not the original hero. The legend the hero inspired creates the heroic spirit, and the heroic spirit is called down into the container of a Servant. It's two steps removed from the original hero*. So there's lots of room for things to change.
*Saber is different because she's a special snowflake and traveling in the flesh. Don't even bring her up in relation to normal Servant operation.
Archer is the endpoint of the Emiya Shirou that becomes a hero. If all of the other Emiya Shirous that do not become heroic spirits have access to Harpe, it would stand to reason that the most powerful one would too.
It should really be said the heroic spirit is the only hero.
Any peoples, real or fictional, that built up the legend, are retroactively replaced by the heroic spirit due to human belief.
But Medusa was a normal priestess who got cursed.
Excalibur + Bellerophon would blast through Enuma Elish, certainly. As Pegasus has the defensive capacity of a dragon, being reinforced by the golden reins and A+ (and B) Riding skills, I imagine it would be fast enough to blow through the Gate of Babylon before Gil can mount a proper defensive bombardment as well.
Berserker too, probably. It's implied a full power Excalibur will wipe him all twelve times in one shot in the bad end where she fails to fire Excalibur at all.
The Throne existing outside of time makes things complicated though. For example, Archer comments on having seen the original Gungnir in action during the UBW route, and it's unlikely that he faced it during the 5th war of his lifetime.
Note in fate/ her and her sisters were human goddesses that were wished for by humanity - making them simultaneously divine and human/mortal. She did get raped by Poseidon though.
Saber has shown aptitude with clapping her mount in her own magical armor in Fate/Zero. Pegasus with Bellerophon was described as having A+ class defenses in addition to its offense, as being on the level of dragons. That kind of speed combined with power (again also assuming Saber is blazing the golden sword of promised victory to cover their entry) would be sufficient to plow through.
That's largely true of anything powerful in the Nasuverse. Most really strong things are a lot more heavily skewed to offense than defense. And the things that DO have good defenses are usually more of the "Doesn't die if killed" variety, rather than tanking damage.
>And the things that DO have good defenses are usually more of the "Doesn't die if killed" variety, rather than tanking damage.
Herakles is both, though. Shrugs off anything below Rank A magic and comes back stronger than ever even if you do manage to fatally wound him.
Doesn't his golden turtleshell take a lot of hits? I remember it only took a moment to wear it. If Berserker rushed him, in the UBW fight, and he decided to pop it on, would he have taken a hit from Berserker's axe sword?
Usually, I said. I was mostly thinking of Nrvnqsr and Arc when I said that. Also Roa, I guess, and in a way TATARI, though that's a slightly more straightforward "Can't be killed."
And of course there's shit that has terrifying offensive AND defensive power like the other Types and Primate Murder.
His armor isn't particularly strong compared to, say, Saber's. It wouldn't save him from a direct hit from a Noble Phantasm or somebody on Herakles' level.
The problem is Gil's offensive spam is so strong hardly anybody can get a chance to hit him.
It took many hits from Saber's sword when it was wrapped in Invisible Air. That is, roughly, just below 10% of its actual strength. Berserker, whose strength is colossal and stated to be greatest amongst the servants by Nasu, would probably be a different story.
Gil himself doesn't even care much for the armor. It's mostly to protect against curses, magic, petrifying, and all that. Physical attacks he can usually overwhelm with GoB one way or another.
Saber's sword is only 10% under Invisible Air? Does that mean she would have cut Zero Lancer in half if she had it unwrapped? She is powerful.
If Rider was under Sakura would she be able to do well against Gilgamesh? If he's too cool and hip to wear his turtleshell, then he could be petrified, correct? I imagine the hook that got her would make a return, though.
>Saber's sword is only 10% under Invisible Air? Does that mean she would have cut Zero Lancer in half if she had it unwrapped? She is powerful.
That wild charge she committed to was going to end up with a double kill if she continued it, in a depressing reversal of her defeat of Mordred.
Rider has almost no defensive abilities though, she'd be turned into a pincushion by GoB spam if she stood still for even a second. Plus you know Gil probably has some bullshit artifact to resist mystic eyes or something. Maybe a giant mirror.
His prana is more than sufficient to deal with Cybele and don his armor. Rider stands next to no chance.
As if her odds weren't low enough, Gilgamesh also fucking hates snakes.
If you have a rock from mars as a catalyst would you be able to summon ORT as a servant?
Saber is powerful but other servant can match him. Hey there's Gawain in extra which is said on par with Saber, and Gawain blessing of the sun bullshit make him stronger than Saber since she doesn't have Avalon and the fact that losing Avalon is part of Arthur's legend.
Maybe vlad could also defeat him.
For Gilgamesh, if he is as an Archer he could be matched but it would be so hard to kill him at the point of almost impossible and need special condition of every aspect of war. He would also may use his Ea if he acknowledge any of the heroes.
Gilgamesh without limit like in CCC on the other hand, is instant GG.
Well, there's Karna, Achilles, Chiron, Saviour, Sieg, Semi, Jeanne, Apocrypha Vlad and Mordred that are quite worhty opponents.
There are also some minor threats like Li Shuwen, Nursery Rhyme and SwagSpeare.
what if there's a HGW involving servants with Abilities/NPs that hides their identity or Fakers?
Mordred masquerading as Arturia
Lancelot as Berserker
EMIYA as Archer
Arturia as Lancer who uses her magical dagger to hide her face as Caster and Protag's servant
story revolves on figuring out who the servants are
Moon Cell isn't a reality marble and revealing Earth's origins wouldn't do any good to the Moon Cell considering it is older than the Earth and has been observing Earth for billions of years before Earth came into existence.
Could FSN Saber take down Saber of Black? What about Lancer of Black?
How similar is Semiramis to FSN Caster? She looks sorta close but more interesting. Has the whole dual-class thing going on.
I was thinking the whole two holy swords, Avalon and dragon reactor thing.
>make one of the most fmous, all-round, intelligent demi-god hero into slob spilling retard because "muh betrayal"
wasn't Hercules being dutiful one of his stronger traits too? Why the fuck would you waste it on BASAKA. Theres plenty of hero/monsters based on pure strength alone.
>summon Oedipus instead of Odyesses
>he fucks your mom
The Einzberns summoned him as Berserker intentionally, because they both believed Illya could control him just fine with her hax Command Seals, and because if he were sane, it's likely he would have murdered the fuck out of the rest of the family for what they did to Illya (Since he's extremely soft for children).
Supposedly Gil gives her trouble because her backup from the planet doesn't account for his treasures in the Gate of Babylon. I'd be willing to bet anyone closely aligned with the sun, like Gawain or Tamamo, would have an advantage over her as well.
More like he convinces you to fuck your mom.
>Summon Helen of Troy
>Get NTRd with another master
Yes. I may be getting those from somewhere else completely, but for some reason i think he's under the effects of a self-geass that prevents him harming children, too. I have no idea where i got that though.
I see, so it's just my concept is wrong.
I'm not that gilfag guy by the way, just some curious guy.
Well Extra do said something about Tamamo and arc so that make sense. But Gawain? Really? Does that mean he can only be a strong opponent to Arc at daytime?
I'm pretty sure if the Crimson Moon did it's moon-drop shit on ORT then ORT would be reduced to a smear on the landscape, if that.
And besides, it can still get wrecked by Black Barrel or Slash Emperor.
They're wrong anyway, because even if they are, Ea is explicitely stated to have been forged from a meteorite, which is one of the reasons Archer can't wrap his head around it, it's not earthly to begin with.
Semiramis still wins. Assuming she has prep time to get Hanging Gardens rolling anyway. Outside of that...well if she gets presence concealment then Berserker being Berserker can't do shit.
Shirou at best in UBW vs Kirei in FZ. Hmm...
I'll go with Kirei in this. Reasoning being we know Kirei in FZ is equivalent to a servant and is fully capable of beating even Bazette and Bazette can beat Shirou any day. Battle strategy is pound Shirou's face in and call it a day.
Nah. Weaker than even his Berserk mode really.
More strategy in that he can use For Someone's Glory for misdirection, but at the same time opens up the chance for his wretched personality to lob a wrench into your plans.
You don't "bypass" God Hand. You can obliterate him in one blow, but that requires killing an A rank endurance/A rank battle continuation hero twelve fucking times in a single shot. Good luck.
You'll get a random hero pulled out of the hat if your catalyst isn't related to any summonable heroes.
If it's possibly related to multiple heroes, but the primary one is already class-locked out of the war then it might summon a different one that does qualify for an available class, but otherwise your effort in getting a catalyst just went to waste because you didn't hurry the fuck up and lock in the class you wanted.
If you obliterate Herc in one blow it means you've already burned through all God Hand lives stock.
The only way to properly bypass God Hand is being Shiki or something like that, mostly very broken conceptual abilities.
If Gilgamesh agreed to equip Rider's reality marble with his weapons, and all of his army had legendary weapons straight from the Gate of Babylon, could Rider defeat Zero Berserker if he is boosted with all three Command Seals?
Reading that post, the first thing that came to mind was Arc's usage of Marble Phantasm against Roa in her route, where she basically atomized him above the ankles. I'd ask "what about that," but then I thought and realized, if Nine Lives Blade Works counts as multiple kills, then surely using Marble Phantasm in that manner would too.
>Didn't Rin's magic crystal blew his head out?
It took 5 of her Gems. If Rin had used all of them Illya remarks that she could have even killed him 6 times. But you need to remember that is literally 15 years worth of Mana to half-kill him.
Rin blowing his head off killed him exactly once. It doesn't matter how gruesome it is, it matters if it kills him hard enough to cause the damage to wash into his next life too.
You get this guy as a servant in the caster class
Paint the town red. Bathe the streets in blood. No survivors.
Nope, because none of Alexander's men have UBW and those NPs would be useless in their hands since they are unable to download the experience and history of the original weapon's master/user.
It would just be giving Alexander's men, fancy pieces of metal.
They would not be able to activate the NP.
For example, Gae Bolg in Alexander's hands would just be a fancy metal spear and Alexander would not be able to use any of its abilities.
That doesn't bypass anything it's just a really strong attack.
To be more clear, imagine it as a classic RPG.
Let's say Herc has a HP gauge of 9999 or whatever, basically God Hand gives him other separate 12 HP gauges, let's say you have a really strong attack that does around 15000 HP of damage, it will burn through one and a half gauge, then let's say we use something like Gay Bulge, which has the property of ohko, it will instantly deplete one health bar if your Choo Choo train doesn't slip on a banana peel and impale himself.
Now let's say you're Shiki, you have a special attack that can erase the enemy based on the simple fact that it's a target, that goes beyond the concept of HP, guages and Stats so it does effectively bypass God Hand.
So I'm like, 54% of the way through FHA, and Rin's barely showed up at all. I know she's supposed to appear late, but am I gonna get bombarded with a ton of scenes with her at some point, or is her overall presence pretty light?
Lancelot is nifty, but there's more than a few people who wreck his shit.
Lu Bu > Lancelot. Cu Chulainn > Lancelot. Achilles > Lancelot. Diomedes > Lancelot. Cain > Lancelot. Roland > Lancelot (though that would be one hell of a fight to see).
He wouldn't, he was a fucking politician not a warrior. If you did get him you'd have one of the shittiest servants imaginable
If you really want Nazi's summon one of the fucking generals like Erwin Rommel or Heinz Guderian.
Guderian as a rider would be fucking terrifying because he *INVENTED* blitzkrieg... He'd come with tanks, and planes and bikes and he'd crush the everloving shit out of you so fast you'd be like 'whoa'.
His father, upon learning of a prophecy that his then-infant son would one day kill him, take the throne, and fuck his mother the queen, ordered Oedipus' death. The soldier that carried out the order took pity on the baby and instead of actually killing him, simply abandoned him in the wilderness to die. Baby Oedipus was then found by a couple and raised as their own.
Years later, Oedipus learned of a prophecy where he would kill his father and fuck his mother. Not wanting to do either, he ran away from home. He then unknowingly came across his birth father traveling, they got into a fight, and Oedipus killed him.
He eventually came across his father's kingdom which was in disarray because the king had vanished and they were being terrorized by some monster, I want to say a sphinx. Oedipus then killed the monster, married the queen, and took the throne. Even fathered multiple children with her.
Years later he found out the truth, went mad and blind from grief, and eventually died.
Kojirou, he is really strong. He could even 1v1 Berserker and pressure him (this scene happens in the background) but he didn't kill him because he can't. While his strength is not that much compared other servant, his technique is topnotch that it reached NP levels. He seems week because he is defeated by Saber. His technique is kinda broken that he should be on par againts Saber, Berserker (not including his life), and Lancer.
Someone foreign has entered Fuyuki during the prologue, it's Nero Chaos. Archer discovers him and they have a battle to the death, who wins?
ufotable better animate some of this stuff. I always wanted to see how Lancer fought against the swordsman.
No blast, just a stat-up and a bit of bonus damage to dragons.
Lancelot as Saber is weaker than Arthur, but causes infinitely more chaos with For Someones Glory and Knight of Honor. Then when the war comes to its final stages he pulls arondight sealing both FSG and KoH then wrecks people
Can you summon Allah/Muhammed?
Divine Promised Virgin
Subdue and turn into loyal servant any being of male origin as long as master has enough mana for projection.
Once activated enemy servant blows up as long as he has even slight difference in faith.
> He could even 1v1 Berserker and pressure him
He also pressured every single other servant. And to be fair, Caster was supporting him. He's still pretty fucking awesome though, not everyone can reach Second Magic just by practicing swordsmanship long enough.
Neco Arc sneaks into Rin's mansion to steal some food and she gets Archer by accident.
Peace Be Upon Him - Rank B
>Islam forbids all depiction of the Prophet in art and literature, and as such can only be detected or identified by Rank A Thaumaturgy, Third Magics or Danish newspaper comics
Arc's damage output isn't that great, and Nrvnqsr's whole thing is that he's INSANELY hard to kill because LOL CHAOS.
Archer throwing multiple Broken Phantasm Caladbolgs might be able to kill him. Might.
reminder someone did the math and Gil Using EA would fuck full powered arc to hell and archer can fight against him fairly well.
Honestly he might be able to get away with copying caliburn, and blasting the tits off of Nero, he just needs a hard enough and large enough ranged attack to kill nero off.
- He can resurrect himself once, even after complete destruction
- He automatically siphons mana from all Christians on a country scale
- He can summon the 12 apostles who are experts in their areas, giving him high flexibility
As has been said almost once in every thread - Jesus 1) Jesus was a pacifist not a warrior 2) High levels of divinity allow people to choose whether or not to compete in a WAR OF GREED TO SATE ONES OWN LUST and 3) He'd be a fucking awful servant because he wasn't a warrior.
If you must go with 'divine' figures, go with moses, or baron samedi both are wildly better than JEBUS.
>Jesus was a pacifist not a warrior
The new testament says otherwise
>He'd be a fucking awful servant because he wasn't a warrior.
Buddha wasn't a warrior and it's an OP servant with Rank B in Atk.
Gilgamesh strolls through Fuyuki's town one day and discovers something concerning, it's Ciel. Later that night, Gilgamesh, aware of what's going to happen, goes to deal with this invader.
Ciel is wearing her power-gear, Gil is wearing his turtleshell.
Aniki (Heroic Spirit BILLY) as Servant.
Catalyst : Billy's underwear
"Fuck you Leather Man"
If enemy is wearing anything that even resembles leather, Aniki gains +1 to all his stats for the battle period.
Aniki can change his attire and aura at will.
Upon drawing GAY BULDGE any being that lies eyes upon it is immobilized permanently no matter the magical defense or Skill.
Once immobilized Aniki has 50% chance to instantly kill the opponent with GAY BULDGE thrust.
Well since he is a hero for muslim, you need to use his tale from muslim's believe. Those terrorist is just retarded. As a muslim myself, I never heard of this 72 promised virgin. I'll look at the quran later.
I remember that he slice the moon just by divide the moon from his view with his hand and when he moved his hand, the moon is back to normal (fucking broken but useless NP) .
Muhammad is not that strong as a servant. He didn't do that many super power things. Since muslim know the tales of 25 prophet, muhammad probably the weakest in power. Maybe even avenger is stronger than him.
> he eventually perfected and refined a prison of slashes that treads into the Second Magic without any knowledge of Magecraft or True Magic by doing nothing but spending his life swinging his sword following a single worthless idea on how to kill a swallow.
I don't know whenever to laugh at his stupidity or be amazed by his determination.
Lancers are infinitely better at harassment due to the highest agi stats, and the class trait of battle continuation
later decided by nasu. Add into the fact that disproportionate numbers of lancers also possess eye of the mind and incredibly lethal anti-person noble phantasms and you've got yourself *the* servant killer.
Why do his arms glow blue with lines now when he uses magic? He doesn't have a magic crest or anything.
It's technically impossible because he's a vampire, not a heroic spirit. Also, his vampiric form is really weak because having a physical body is a great disadvantage. But if you can summon his phenomenon form, it would be quite scary since he's basically unstoppable.
Recent news about the ebola outbreak could wipe the town with ease.
Altria would do battle with TATARI Mordred or Lancelot.
Herakles would battle TATARI Hydra or reanact killing his family with Illya in their place.
Medusa would once again experience being an uncontrollable monster.
Lancer face a blast from the past with Caladbolg.
Archer would die protecting Illya from Berserker's hands.
I'm fucking trying to read the fucking VN but this fucking Shirou just makes me mad for every word that comes out of his fucking mouth. It doesn't help that his voice fucking irritates me. Why the fuck is the MC fucking stupid? FUCK. I can't count how many time I wanted to drop this stupid shit already because of this fucking stupid MC.
I'm currently at the middle of Fate route. Is this faggot gonna get better?
In the game she is indeed weak, but as a servant itself she is strong. Her magecraft s EX level. And she is a soul which is created from the goddess of sun, Amaterasu nerfed version. She could defeat most servant. Her magecraft is a lot stronger than Medea. But a versatile servant like Berserker and Gawain during the day could beat her. And maybe even Saber with proper tactics since magic resistance is a good skill but still can't completely block her magic, or just give her Avalon.
dies in the Illiad
dies in the Illiad
doesnt die in the Illiand, gets his own epic all to himself, and makes it home to live with his waifu for the rest of his life
He is clearly the best of the three
Shirou's magic circuits are weird because instead of activating his circuits on and off like normal, he struggles though life and death to create new lines everytime he practices in the shed.
Specifically excluded. Only "gods" it can summon had to be not gods at some point during which they were legendary. Hercules became a god after death, but was a demi-god in life so he could be summoned. Chiron surrendered his deific immortality, so he could get summoned.
>That anti-army Noble Phantasm
That'll be a 10 stage GO FUCK YOURSELF, especially if the Servant has divine ranks unaffiliated with Big G. And with all the Christians and Jews? Damn.
Using Joseph as the usual le trickster character/le epic ruseman is though.
And the fact that you're so defensive about it is ulterior proof.
>Can you summon Allah/Muhammed?
The anime studios are scared of doing anything with muslims after one studio got a bunch of death threats and promises of terrorism against sponsors when it was going to have an anime where some muslims were depicted negatively. Apparently, muslims can only be depicted doing good or great things. Anyways, that anime got cancelled after the threats. I wonder how much JoJo's author had to make sure the storyline made the non-muslim foreigners be the villains.