>most of /a/ hates him
All he did was fuck a stupid bitch.
His loving personality. His popularity at his school. His swuave hair. Voiced by Hiroshi Kamiya.
Shinji...I don't get why he gets all the hate on /a/. FSN is just written to make him out as the bad guy, when really he's no worse than any of the 'protagonists' and a better person than most of them.
What are the main complaints? He raped Sakura and stole Rider to use in the war?
Okay, let's get this straight. He never fucking raped Sakura. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He fucked Sakura.
Let me ask you this. WHO IN THE GAME DIDN'T FUCK SAKURA? You can't even name one fucking character who hasn't plugged her loose cunt! She is the kind of bitch who will act like she doesn't want it when she really does. She'll say No! while having multiple orgasms. Shinji knew this, he's a fucking ladies man. He knows what filthy whores like Sakura want.
And there's this other big bitch you guys have with him. He supposedly stole Rider and used her in the war for his own greed.
Objection! He was worried about his one and only precious sister. Is keeping your loved ones from a brutal war so wrong? When Shirou does the same thing to Saber it's like 'oh he's so manly', but when Shinji does it it's wrong? He just wanted to protect Sakura. He probably was going to use his Holy Grail wish to tighten her cunt back up or cure her syphilis or something.
The story was written to make that faggot Shirou look good. Objectively, Shinji is a far better character than Shirou. At least he has the balls to take action decisively instead of dicking around like Shirou, and if he weren't stuck with the weak ass servant Rider and no plothax he probably would have won the war.
What out for Shinji Matou
- Fucks worm infested girls
- Is so pathetic he had to burn a command seal to get Rider pussy
- Kicked Taiga the best girl while she was melting
- Kicked second best girl Kotomine's corpse
- Is interested in raping Rhinos who wear red
- Shitposts and enjoys every second of it.
- Has creepy incest porn.
This guy is a bloody wanker.
>His loving personality.
He's completely unlikeable
>His popularity at his school.
That's not a reason to like him
>His swuave hair.
Looks like seaweed.
>Voiced by Hiroshi Kamiya.
Only good trait but it's not worth it.
You know Rin will never hop off of Shirou's Saber for yours.
How is Mitsuzuri a stupid bitch?
He was too funny to hate in the VN.
Everytime Shinji did some ridicoulously villainous thing while laughing like a dickish madman and then running away afterwards it re-enforced my belief that Nasu included him for comic relief.
All he wanted to do was have fun and then
>killed like a bitch
>turned into a meat mountain
>killed trying to rape the antagonist
Too silly to hate.
If only I could attain such a high level of mastery over dubious and smug faces.
Upset your life isn't this good?
Typical character created for self-inserting losers to hate on and feel better about themselves. Guy has money, good looks, lineage, bitches, his sister's pussy, her servant's pussy, has proven to be able to get that beta Shirou to do his dirty work.
But no, he's so lame and butthurt because he isn't the chosen.
But no, the school idol doesn't want him, she wants the ginger faggot.
But no, his sister was just pitying him and she prefers the ginger cock too.
But no, he's an asshole, a rapist, a potential mass murderer, a coward.
I find it hard believing Shinji is what's pathetic here.
Shinji was just a badly written character. He's not somebody who could exist in real life. He's literally just supposed to be a materialization of every hateable trait imaginable. No more pathetic than wish fulfillment bullshit.
That'd actually be kind of interesting. Instead of the reluctant but genuinely good guy typical MC we'd have a cowardly and narcissistic anti-hero. Usually the MCs are romantically indecisive and fearful but courageous in battle, for Shinji it'd be the other way around.
>Delusional fags think he raped Mitsuzuri
>Even more delusional fags think he fucked Rider
No, you guys are beyond wrong.
Rider attacked Mitsuzuri, and Rider wouldnt obey a sex order. Before you bitch about it no, command seals dont work that way.
>Is so pathetic he had to burn a command seal to get Rider pussy
>He actually shitposts4free.
Literally the character of this book.
Man the only reason I like shinji is for the smug faces
>Not the best character
Why do I love Shinji so much? It's pretty simple when I think about it. Shinji isn't just the best character in the series, he might just be the greatest character of all time. Just imaging him walking through Fuyuki, all the ladies swoon at his very scent. They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold under the the name of "Matou Orgasm." The very nature of Shinji is mystery. could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes? The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit. However, Shinji is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers. Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Shinji is not one that is easily penetrated. Shinji is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world. Shinji is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty. Observe his playful smile, his gourgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes. His eyes, like pools of sapphire, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Shinji. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt. Shinji is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the saga together. Without Shinji, the entire Fate series as we know them crumbles.
These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Shinji so much.
>posting a shop
I like Shinji but he doesn't deserve the first place
Fuck I wanted to post this, shit
I know, sorry
>saber higher than iskandar or gilgamesh
How the hell is Shirou so low yet Sakura,Rin and Saber all placed better then him? Then again Shirou is kinda shitty manchild who wants to have his way all the time in the novel.
Well the serial rapist who attacked her said she was raped and she was found in a back ally with her clothing disheveled, so yeah...
Dislike? Well I'm a casual when it comes to written fiction (I've read a decent amount, just not enough to say much), so not much. I've never been able to get through a Terry Goodkind book, and Terry Brooks is good but I find his stories somewhat formulaic at times. Beyond that nothing really comes to mind, although I read the Twilight series to give it a fair chance and thoroughly regretted it.
Ah, and I guess Cassandra Clare? No idea if she's popular though, but fuck her books.
>not even Nanaya
Okay, thanks; I was just wondering what kind of fiction writers you'd dislike if you like Peter V. Brett. Do give >>117023324
a try if you don't mind having a tremendously flawed main character.
And yeah, most of those YA books featuring the typical run of the mill MC are pretty bad.
gee, I wonder who could be behind this post
All jokes aside, EVERYONE hates Shinji. Shinji is the kind of character you love to hate. He's the King Joffrey Baratheon of anime.
Fate would have been so much better if Gilgamesh had been a girl.
I can see the appeal of her, but I like rin more
>Not wanting that booty.
What are you gay?
>He goes to school in a jungle.
FUCK NIGGA THE VINES ARE GROWING INTO THE ROOM!
I've nothing against Saber, but she's too perfect for my liking.
Strongest Servant, female version of Arthur Pendragon, blonde, green eyes, stoic but soft inside.
Perfect waifu material for nipponfags.
What's with this spell?
Todhoya? Some ancient greek shit?
How would a Shinji route ever make any sense with how Shirou is?
The only way it would be possible is if it had a completely new introduction, and Shirou was adopted by best Grampa instead of Kerry. Sakura is still there and they heir to the Matou line, but Shirou was adopted because he had circuits and could breed with Sakura.
Shinji and Shirou would have a rival relationship but still see each other as brothers.
Neither would like Sakura and Shinji would still have Rider.
>that one scene that happens before they cross the bridge with Tohsaka contemplating the view and Seiba being mad about the rain coat
So they DID leave that one for the bd.
Look upon this scene /a/ for this is you. the fendora faggot is likely a Rinfag and the one with their fist in the air is likely a Sakurafag. Saberfags will wipe them out one day because she's obviously the best and anyone with a brain can see that. I mean honestly waifufagism is so fucking stupid especially when their's a clear best girl.
Girls raped and penetrated by Shinji:
Girls molested by Shinji:
what a LAD.
>He didn't fuck Rider.
Keep dreaming you waifu is pure.
Are you also forgetting the she just gropped her butt and she did nothing when Shirou came to his house in Fate?
Come on now, based on who he is and the power he had over her the only logical end result. This shit is spelling itself out, but keep on living whatever headcanon servers you.
Shinji is literally rubbing Rider's ass when they're first introduced together and saying he had a bit of trouble "training" her to obey orders.
>Shinji is an asshole and rapes/fucks whatever she can find.
>Has complete control over one of the most beatiful women in the HGW (even by Rin's words).
>Gropes her butt in front of others and she does nothing.
>Says he had to "train" her to follow orders.
>Says shit like >>117027739.
>Somehow he didn't fuck her.
Nigga you are either baiting or have somehow warped your perception of reality so badly that you are believing the most unlikely of shit.
Lancer saved the purity of Rin, Raider and Ayako.
I recall in the episode they said something about her not having any physical trauma or anything (probably implying that she just had her mana or whatever sucked out)
As for the VN I honestly forget what happened to her, or even if they went into detail about it, I kinda thought this part was anime original but its been a while
You rate all three far too high
>implying King Arthur would fall in love with a Japanese teenager in two weeks
>has an ideal dumber than Shirou's
>relevant in two routes
>Generic tsundere down to the twintails
>has a reason to be tsundere in that she tries to fit the mold of a mage
>best chemistry with Shirou
>comes from a well respected family of mages
>relevant across all three routes
>Largest bust, while nice now, are awfully large for her age and will sag very early
>SENPAI SENPAI SENPAI
>needs frequent dicking
>needs kind words
>kind with a calm demeanor
>emits an aphrodisiac of sorts during sex that reminds Shirou of a carnivorous plant
>took care of Shirou while he was sick
>is a mass murderer
>because she is a grail, Illya gets to live in HF
>older brother is a dick
>grandpa is a dick
>worms that fill her are dicks
>father is a failure
>only relevant in HF
>and Rider wouldnt obey a sex order. Before you bitch about it no, command seals dont work that way.
Rider attitude is "anything for my master", and im pretty sure when she gets bopped in UBW Shinji mutters something or starts complaining about her only being useful as a woman or something. The only thing I can think this would imply would be that he fucked her a lot or at some point
I would go back and find the text but I don't have a save,
>because she is a grail, Illya gets to live in HF
The problem with not giving any subtlety to your villains is that it takes away any surprise or doubt from the plot. When Shinji claimed that he wasn’t responsible for Rider attacking that student, I laughed. Yeah, of course Mr. One-dimensional asshole didn’t hurt anyone! He’s completely harmless! I’ve mentioned before that one-dimensional villains don’t work as characters, and they work equally poorly as plot devices. You know it’s a bad idea for Shirou to ally with him (even Shirou knew that much), and you know he’s gonna do something awful with his bounded field. There’s no unpredictability. There’s no excitement. There’s just Shinji trying to earn street credit with his friends in the society of sociopaths.
Caster was a similarly poor villain. I know from watching the old FSN that she wants the grail. I also know that her master’s not evil. So why make her come off as such an asshole? Why make her tell Shirou that she enjoys it when she struggles? Can we not side with Shirou if the people he’s opposing might have okay reasons to get the grail? But hey, Caster did provide a thought-provoking moment in this conversation. When she needlessly explained her tactics to Shirou, it made me think about why I was watching this and not a Saturday morning cartoon.
And just a quick question: What’s the point of establishing that Caster made a bounded field if both Saber and Archer aren’t going to have any trouble getting through? It seemed like a wasted plot point to me.
Why are people hellbent on believing he's a nice guy?
He's a fucking insane rapist teen who has total control over easily the most hottest woman in the HGW.He even says she 'was only good as a woman' and that he had to 'train her'.
What, do you think he meant fucking cooking and cleaning dishes and that training meant he took her to train to a cooking college or something?
He's a fucking asshole.Shirou should have killed him when he had a chance, every route.
>What’s the point of establishing that Caster made a bounded field if both Saber and Archer aren’t going to have any trouble getting through? It seemed like a wasted plot point to me.
They'll probably explain it in the next episode, but the field wasn't to stop servants getting in, it was to force them to go through the main entrance, where Assassin was waiting with MUH STEPS
When you put it that way, and on further analysis, huh, sounds like Saber is the worst character with the least development as a person.
Come to think about it, isnt King Arthur like 40 years old by the time he dies? Even if she has the body of a 15 year old girl, she's like 40! How the fuck did she fall for some fucking kid?
Her death had little to do with her being a grail and was instead because of Shirou's broken body. The point was Sakura becoming a grail meant Illya didn't get crucified or see Dr. Gil
>implying Shirou isn't a top-tier male
>sounds like Saber is the worst character with the least development as a person.
Her development is fine. She basically shows a more human side that she repressed, becomes a little girl, finds love, copes with her inferiority complex, and manages to move on from her failures.
It's just that Rin is basically a secondary protagonist and gets huge amounts of development in all routes and wormslut has 0 personality, so any development in HF is seen as a lot.
Bear in mind she can shoot lasers from her sword. It would've only taken as long to unite Britain as long as the time it took the word to spread.
>LOOK AT THIS SHIT PEASANTS, MAGIC SWORD OF LIGHT, GOD'S CHOSEN ALL UP IN THIS BITCH, COME DIE FOR ME
Yes. How did you fucking know?
She fucking wouldnt be able to do it, even if she had "Unite England" as a re-usable Casus Belli.
Even if she had massive fucking stats, she's ONE woman.
How did you know, man?
I haven't read HF since 2009I just finished re-reading UBW yesterday Dr. Gil was still fresh in my mind I'm not even an Illyafag but fuck Gil
Nigga I don't think you understand
I'd fuck Shirou if I was a girl.
NPs were a dime a dozen back then. Excalibur may be a notch above most of them, but it wouldn't mean peope would go
>HOLY SHIT THIS GODDESS IS OUR QUEEN
Like I said, everyone had an NP.
You can be damn sure the invaders and barbarians had their own NPs to match Excaliblasts.
It's probably like /co/'s shitty comics where Captain America and his band of heroes were actually up against Evil Super Villains, so it all cancels out.
He also forgot to mention that he is dead inside and crazier than a bag of beans.
Fuck that, Kirei is the best.
>Owns his own church
>Only eats ultra spicy food (the only place where the greatest flavours in the world can be found)
>Hang out with Gil, going around telling random teenage girls to kill themselves
>Will offer you bizarre, uninterpretable advice that will nevertheless always prove its incredible foresight, relevance and wisdom to your true needs within a couple of days
>Can throw three Black Keys into separate dartboard bulls-eyes at the same time mid-leap as a party trick
Well, she failed, didnt she? Her kingdom collapsed into shit.
See why supreme executive power is derived from the will of the masses, not because some fucking sword was given to you?
Iskander didnt have any problem leading his men.
>Iskandar didn't have any problems leading his men
Yeah, but his country wasn't too well off. All he cared about was going to the ocean. Then he finds himself on an island 2000 years later and doesn't even see the ocean. Instead he goes around calling himself king of conquerors when he didn't take over nearly as much as Ghengis Khan. 3/10 still better than Saber
Her kingdom collapsed because she was such a perfect ruler that people started to doubt her. Remember that Saber fought constantly and never lost, and she did everything to take on all of the kingdom's problems by herself. She was initially praised for her strength but after a while they didn't want to be ruled by someone who threw away their emotions and didn't seem human.
We all know who the true 10/10 king is.
His country was a shit-poor suburb of greece. it certainly wasn't any worse off given that his campaigns made it so they weren't getting whacked by hellenic mercenaries for sport every two weeks.
anyway, Alexander's empire divided into three areas, macedonia, egypt and persia, when he died, and all of those kingdoms were at least functional for several generations afterwards. Given that nobody expected him to die when he did, they could have done significantly worse.
It's a hyperbole you faggot. NPs were more plentiful back then.
During WW2, Captain America led some super heroes and soldiers against the Axis. Naturally, this makes no sense since the Allied should've won the war easily. The answer to this was to make a counterpart band of super villains to fight them, effectively canceling out the effects of both side's heroes.
Saber actually managed her kingdom very well. The whole
thing was basically bullshit spouted by her critics anyways. Saber did everything she could to hold her kingdom together, but it was a cesspool of shit seeing constant invasion, war and strife, and political backstabbing that one person alone could not manage. People used her sacrifices as an excuse to call her a bad ruler, but even Merlin reaffirmed that she did nothing wrong.
>This king is perfect in every way
>Wins territory, never loses a battle, protects all our citizens, is extremely knowledgeable in all areas of government, was chosen by God as rightful king, never ages, and wields immense power but will never become corrupt and will only use it to help our nation
>BUT A BLOO BLOO BLOO HE WALKED RIGHT PAST ME WHEN I TRIED TO HAND HIM THE PRESSED FLOWER I MADE JUST FOR MY SENPAI, BETTER DESTROY EVERYTHING HE EVER WORKED FOR BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE EMOTIONS, HE'S JUST TOO GOOD AT HIS JOB!
Fucking round table.
Let me explain what you're doing right now
>Saber won easily because she had multiple unbeatable weapons
>Yeah but then she would've won too easily, Nasu probably gave her opponents superweapons to fight back
>Wait, if her opponents had superweapons too then why did she win so easily? shit doesn't make sense
There's going going to be assholes out to take you down by pointing out every little flaw you have, whether justified or not. A large part of the discontent, at least according to Nasu, was that Saber was unable to win without sacrifices. She had to sacrifice territory, farmland, and people to win bigger battles and keep the country stabilized. Of course, the citizenry being retarded, they cried that she could not save everyone and decried her as a cold King unable to save her kingdom.
In a way, Saber's past heavily mirrors Shirou/Archer's struggles, which is why it was only natural that they fell in love and found peace in each other.
Well, not a noble phantasm, but a hero...
Notice how he immediately recognises the POTUS as his greatest enemy on sight, has a great interest in bombers, and insists on being known as Iskander, rather than Alexander The Great
I thought the whole reason that there couldn't be any modern Heroic Spirits was because, in the age of technological warfare, the victories and recognition required to become such would be attributed to the weapon rather than the individual? So wouldn't those conditions make them a NP if their legend was great enough?
Custom made guns and stuff are a thing, y'know? I know we don't have any 'famous' guns nowadays in real life (unless you count shit like the rifle that shot JFK or whatever) but imagine something like that comes about, and is maybe used for incredible deeds over and over in the public eye, such that the particular weapon becomes public knowledge. That wouldn't count?
If it accomplished deeds on the same level as heroes of the past and people believed in it as such, sure. There's no theoretical reason such a thing can't happen, it just doesn't because of the circumstances of our time.
It's just bullshit by Nasu. Warfare and combat changes with the times.
Before, you had to be a master of the blade to win a fight against your enemies. But in the modern age, being a master of the blade means nothing against someone who can shoot a bullet at you from miles away. In fact, mastering a modern firearm and being able to survive through numerous engagements can be said to be a hallmark of a hero as well, which is the entire basis for the recognition system in modern military.
Mastering a gun in modern combat is conceptually no different from mastering a weapon in the medieval ages.
Kohaku = raped thousands of times, didn`t even understand sex was supposed to be a source of pleasure, viewed it only as a tool for her synchronizer abilities, blushed when Shiki made actual love to her, funny, cheerful and genki personality, master strategist; despite her vengeance, never blamed anyone for her problems, couldn`t even bring herself to hate Makihisa
Fujino = raped hundreds of times never felt pain or any pleasure/stimulation whatsoever, indifferent to sex
Sakura = raped thousands of times, LOVED the cock, horny several times throughout the story, Shinji himself comments on how horny she'd get for anyone's cock, loose as a cannon, clingy, possessive and self-pitying, won't stand up for herself but blames everyone for her problems, enjoyed herself thoroughly killing hundreds if not thousands of innocents in Fuyuki, brings out the worst in Shirou, refused to kill herself even though that`d easily stop the destruction of the world and her beloved Shirou`s death
Shinji did not fuck rider. If he did, then she wouldn't need to resort to attacking civilians for mana restoration. Rider didn't even put up a fight against saber in HF, Why? Because she wasn't getting any mana from Shinji.
But Shinji can't give mana you secondary retard because he has none, he has no Magic Circuits he is not a magus.
God : I hope the new Fate Extra game Nasu is making has both Mordred and Galahad.
Because with how Apocrypha has established her character, she must absolutely loathe Galahad as her antithesis.
>two inferior knights
Nasu wants the game to sell, not to go bankrupt.
Nope, not in another universe
Sir Gawain was the ultimate, ideal, perfect knight and also the strongest
Get your athruian lore straight you peasant.
Caliburn wasn't given to him by the lady of the lake. He pulled it from the stone. Caliburn granted him the right to rule. Excalbiur was just a sword he got to replace it when he broke from that aquatic bimbo.
He's only had a passing mention of his death in Fate.
But Galahad is basically a bastard son of Lancelot that was raised in a Nunnery. One day he shows up in Camelot and Arturia takes him to another sword in the stone that says "Whoever yacks this shit out will be ideal knight" Galahad yanks that shit out and then proceeds to go Grail hunting where he's the actual knight to grab it.
Where as Mordred fails to live up to her Father and damns him, Galahad basically surpasses Lancelot.
Also Mordred's wish to prove she deserves to be king is "Yank Caliburn from the stone"
Galahad basically being picked by her daddy to yank a sword from the stone probably really pisses her off
Quiet Gawain. It's past your bed time.
>watching an LN
>asking to be spoonfed
>he's a knight
>at the round table
>he does it for free
>he takes his knighthood very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he he shitposts in fate threads because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
>he he shitposts in fate threads because they interfere with the grail wars he has to lose
>he will never be a good knight
>he will never move out of his king's castle
>he will never beat any of the knights at the round table
>he will never know how to cook as well as shirou
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends
>Up to his armpits in vagina (meanwhile I'm alone)
>Is an asshole and yet everyone is okay with that
>For how much he talks, he's a real coward
>Walks around like he owns the damn place
>Doesn't even lift
Why would I like him? The series hasn't given me any reason to.
even if he had the magical circuits needed to transfer mana that way, doesn't both sides have to orgasm to make the transfer?
can't you just accept that Shinji fucked Rider?
if it makes you feel better, Shinji is probably such a bad lay (because he's only interested in pleasing himself) that she didn't enjoy it
5-6 inches is best. 7 you need to get used to it but anything beyond that is for porn girls. Girls in porn have had so many dicks they need 7+ size dicks just to feel anything.
For girls who aren't total fucking skanks a realistic sized dick is the most desirable.
source: I'm a grill who has been grilling the same hotdog since highschool
>That's not the way Master should use his Servant.
A Servant is a familiar, you can do whatever the hell you want with it. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to use something you summoned for your own reasons, be it to fight and win the Holy Grail or whatever else.
Besides, it's not like it matters, Servants aren't people and besides Arturia the ones you see are just copies of the original and when they die nothing happens nor will they remember what happened in the next war.
She was asking to be raped, Shirou agrees with me.
>/a/ absolutely hates Sakura for no reason for years now
>keeps sucking Shinji's dick
Absolutely disgusting. And the only reason is because 1) you self-insert into Shinji and 2) Sakura wants sex. Muh purity.
Dude, the chick got off to fucking worms.
That's more than just enjoying sex man.
Shinji is a sack of shit, but he's always good for a laugh. Sakura is as bad as every other female nasu has written. Sure, she got a raped for her whole life as a backstory, neat. I hate her annoying fucking voice and attitude.
All the fate heroines are shit.
I would actually like to know of all women raped how many actually orgasmed.
I thought women orgasms was a mental/physical combination instead of just physical.
His villainous rapey/abusive backstory was to edgy and tryhard to really get at me.
The big reason I personally hate him is because he's such a sore loser and a whiny little shit. He's like a whinier version of Shinji Ikari who never becomes competent even if he attempts to get stuff done more often. He also has less of a psychological justification for why he's acting like such a twat.
It's a wide genre. It's like calling something an 'rpg', there's a fuckton of vastly different games that qualify, and a lot of the distinctions are arbitrary. Like Kamidori is a VN but Fire Emblem isn't.
I wonder how desperate one has to be to fap to F/SN "sex scenes".
I skipped the Saber one because it was silly beyond belief, I couldn't stop laughing.
>Her vagina is like an ivy
>I'm going to ejaculate just by kissing her
>the dirtiest part of her is right in front of me
>implying the part where Saber's just fucking mesmerized by the jizz for a good handful of paragraphs is not the best part of any h-scene in Fate
I can't be the only one that thinks this.