Is Chaika considered a loli or not?
No, the faggots that do have no idea what they're talking about. Now Feddie IS a loli,and a damn fine one at that.
I don't think she really looks it at all in the anime, but the LN design seems more loli, but still not quite.
She doesn't look that loli in the LN either
Yes, he body type puts her just in loli.
>He dosen't want to fuck Akari.
Chaika is the MC
I don't mind him
His stupid fucking hair annoys me, but he doesn't do anything worth disliking him for.
He's not particularly interesting or anything either though.
He helps the plot move while chaikas and freddies do things, which is all he needs to do, and he doesn't detract from the show while doing it.
>not quite an old hag
No where even close to being an old hag, you mean.
>draw a loli
Thanks for proving my point and admitting you are wrong. Have another.
Google it, you lazy shit. It's the first result.
Guarantee this is the idiot who just made himself look like a retard and now is resorting to bait.
Holy shit, it's literally called Boku no Grandma.
I did not see that coming.
It's called Masamune, and it's a manga about a legendary sword of great power that is briefly wielded by Alucard in his quest to slay his father and creates powerful whirlwinds of death that look like fajita peppers from Chipotle. It is used almost three hundred years later by Soma Cruz as a mere stepping stone on the way to the superior Muramasa.
I don't think so. Her body is too defined already to still be considered loli. Frederica has more of a loli body type.
However, I would say that she's borderline, so some might still classify her as loli.
>ib4 loli is a body type
Of course it is. Cartoon characters have no physical age. Loli is and has always been a body type.
Otherwise immortal vampire lolis wouldn't be lolis, which is obviously nonsense as the term loli should already tell you.
Frederica looks a bit younger than Chaika. I'd draw the line pretty between loli- and not-loli somewhere between Frederica and Chaika. But as I said: Chaika is still borderline loli, so someone with less strict definitions much still classify her as such and he wouldn't necessarily be wrong.
>How can a line be draw over something almost identical?
The line needs to go somewhere. Reading up on Dedekind Cuts and solutions to Zeno's paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise might help.
>Because Chaika is like a year older and maybe one size bigger in the waist?
>too old to be considered a loli
>implying age matters
This loli is in her 20's.
Which means she grows up and will stop being a loli after a time. If she doesn't change then ot would still be loli.
Your using an overly strict definition. She is much much closer to loli, you're acting like she is as different to Freddy as Akari is to her.
>Your using an overly strict definition. She is much much closer to loli, you're acting like she is as different to Freddy as Akari is to her.
I'm not using an overly strict definition. Any definition is strict in a certain area. If I draw a line, then I might also find elements that are really close to that line and where some people might argue that they still meet the definition somehow because they're "really close". Then I could argue: okay, let's not make it a line - let's put a boundary around that line and things that are close to a certain degree still fit. But even that boundary has a certain outer edge, where I could redraw my line and where some people might argue my definition is overly strict. And if I then relocated my boundaries to further widen my definition then I could repeat it ad infinitum and I'd be stuck with everything belonging.
Again: a line has to be drawn somewhere. Even if you make it not a line but an area, then you can still find a supremum and you're stuck with a line again.
Yes. To show you why your reasoning in >>117577730 is flawed. Either a slight difference can be the difference between loli and not loli, or a girl that undergoes a series of slight changes will always remain loli.
But according to >>117577730 slight differences do not make a difference.
>I thought "loli" meant a fucking little underage girl.
Then you'd be wrong.
Loli is not prepubescent. Loli is either prepubescent or early pubescent. If it was just prepubescent then we wouldn't be having this conversation and no one would call Ro-kyu-bu loliball.
First of all, I'm not even >>117577730
Secondly, what did was take the "slight difference" part, take it out of context and replied with a non-sequitur that proves absolutely nothing
You weren't talking about a slight difference, you were talking about repeated slight changes over time resulting on massive change AKA growing up. This is not a valid argument when comparing two girls of similar and pretty much identical body types.
In case you didn't get it, the point is that one of the slight changes would make her no longer loli. For the other anon, the point at which that slight change falls is the one between Frederika and Chaika is that point. Thus your argument that it's just a "small difference, so they either both have to be loli or neither is" fails.
>the point is that one of the slight changes would make her no longer loli
No it doesn't. A girl doesn't stop being loli because there is a smaller loli around. They are both loli in their present state.
Does this look like prepubescent girl to you?
That's not what anyone is saying.
How does it not? Your point was that a small change cannot make a difference, I provided an example where, regardless of your definition of loli, a small change would make a difference.
But you, I believe it's still you, who said yes when asked why is Chaika not loli because she is like one waist size bigger and one year older then Freddy's loli from. Freddy being slightly smaller does not take away form Chaika being loli.
Red is prime breeding material but white is #1 mom material.
But there has to be a point at which she stops being loli. I am not just saying look at one end, then at the other. I am saying look at each individual step. In one of those steps she will stop being a loli.
Actually it was not, that was >>117578725. I am making no arguments to whether or not Chaika is a loli. Just that a small change can matter in determining loliness.
No. I just don't understand why you and that other anon are being so dense about this. >>117579575
has more than adequately explained the situation. The only possible way you could not see and acknowledge his point would be if you have no actual interest in learning and just want to languish in your own ignorance.
>they could have tried providing an alternate explanation.
Why would I bother with that. Your analogy is perfectly fine and you've done an adequate job explaining it. It's probably the the most efficient way to describe what you mean. The problem is with >>117579682 having reached the point of self-confident stupidity that he dismisses everything that disagrees with him as just being stupid.
>chest size is the only thing that changes during puberty
Then argue about why the specific small changes don't matter, and don't say "small changes don't matter"
Look, at this point there's nothing more for me to say, so just go back to arguing with >>117578725.
I like Toru since he's pretty much antithesis of most recent MCs.
>hurr I want world peace!
>killing is bad!
>I must be 100% lawful/chaotic good!
>doesn't go "Huh? Please explain" when asked for the T, just refuses
They are both loli, the only reason he or you said she isn't was because Freddy's loli form was smaller. Freddy's smaller size done not affect Chaika. Not only but to even say they have a difference in size would be hard to prove, they look at least 90% the same.
For fuck's sake I already said that I agree with what he says, I'm just saying that his analogy was bogus and come out of fucking nowhere, here it is what the discussion has been so far
>The differences between Chaika and Freddie aren't enough to put them on different categories
>BUT WHAT IF YOU ARE WATCHING ONE OF THOSE SHOWS WHERE CHARACTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GROWING UP BUT LOOK THE SAME, THAT TOTALLY PROVES YOU WRONG
>Dude that was retarded
>NO IT WASN'T YOU ARE JUST JELLY.
>Flat chest is one of the few that actually seems to matter.
>what is oppai loli