>>118172229 There's no 'theme' going on right now. No common enemy, no common goal, just a board with vague discussion about middling-quality shows. I want something like Rozen Maiden or Gurren Lagann again, something EVERYONE is watching, just to colour the site a bit.
But even the new Rozen Maiden didn't get watched by anyone, so I don't know, maybe it's just never going to happen again. Could it be there are simply too many people on /a/ and elsewhere now to have something like that happen again at all?
Most of the shows I like these days end up being the 'one thread ever' type which pisses me off, too.
>>118172338 >something EVERYONE is watching I remember TTGL having a pretty outspoken hatebase on /a/ at the time. I get what you mean though, things like Panty Stocking or Psycho Pass seem to come close but /a/ is just too big now for all its users to have the same general interests.
>>118172541 It's interesting seeing in depth analysis Demo at least puts some effort into editing his videos, and usually a lot of his points about a show are spot on. It's a shame about the shitty memes
>>118172338 This. The last big common enemy was Siz. Now it just feels like the big enemy is just waves of newfags one after the other. At least with those big tripfags it felt like a tangible force. With this, it just feels like the enemy is our own board.
>>118172541 I watched Jii-san because of the interesting locales and because he seemed like he was really passionate about anime. Seeing him put a big laserdisc into the player at the beginning of some episodes would make me smile.
>>118172633 I wonder if moderation has changed very much. The biggest difference I've seen is that you don't see complete board wipes anymore like we did with the Rossiu hate after certain episodes. I'd post a screencap here if I had it, you know the one.
I think the rise in catalogs made it easier to just bypass all of the threads you didn't want to see, even psychologically easier than thread hiding because you don't even have to be proactive with the mouse or see more than the OP.
>>118172946 Isn't that essentially what's been going on though? Isn't /v/ and Reddit essentially comparable to the middle east? A few people come here from /v/ or reddit or tumblr, cause a little trouble, and we're ready to go to war with them.
>>118172589 I'm not saying he doesn't try and make his videos look good, I'm saying that he's making them for casual idiots. He released a video complaining that Khara pulled his me!me!me! video, and I saw so many fucking comments saying "what's khara?"
Jii-san at least had some good insight, Demo is like the commie of anime videos.
Then do something interesting. I didn't care much for the Accel guy, but that's exactly what he was. One guy. Anyone can do what he did. The board doesn't get more interesting by waiting for something to happen, something interesting happens when you make it happen. This is your board. You make it what it is.
>>118173003 >>118173062 Right, even though it's easier to ignore if that happened today not only would there be serious mod intervention, there would be backlash against TTGL threads an order of magnitude greater (Going off of recent experience from KLK). That isn't to say these didn't exist back in 2007, they doubtlessly did, just that if it happened today /a/ would probably implode rather than be unusable for a day.
You know who's to blame for all the fun being sucked out? moot, and ourselves
Let us be our own enemy. Our Streams are gone. Our r/a/dio is gone. Our (even though I didn't care for it) 4CC is gone.
Hell we invited /sp/ over to watch a fucking baskethoop game. We invited /o/ over to watch intial D.
Do you remember the last time a mod came in here and had a night of fun (let's not count shitposting with naruto or the asuka thing this year). The last time was the Curiosity landing where all of /a/ got together.
No more mousepad threads, no more chalice threads. There's no more friendly chaos.
But hey, doing any of that will just make people think that the boogieman ledditors and tumbletards are taken over.
Are you fine with just secret s/a/nta, valentine's day and Fapping in the New Year? I'm not, those are boring.
Of course our board is supposed to be anime and mango, but we have no culture because we fear the worst will happen.
Well wake up /a/, we're not interesting anymore and because we're afraid to take chances and moot wouldn't allow it even if we tried.
We'll be fun again the day Mr. Anime releases a new review at this point.
>>118173600 >not using the front page >not looking at the recent posts in a thread before entering it >entering a thread based entirely on the OP without knowing where the discussion has gone Catalog a shit.
>>118173749 I'm assuming you're the same guy that wouldn't stop crying about r/a/dio the last meta thread.
The reason why r/a/dio is gone is because it's full of literal autists like you circlejerking and getting free advertisement. It doesn't matter that it's related to /a/, it's an outside site. That's called advertising.
You mean "made by blogging faggots for blogging faggots"
r/a/dio sucked dick, it had nothing to do with /a/ other than the title, and people like you never stop fucking whining about it. Go to fucking reddit or something if you want to listen to music, who cares. Fucking normalfags like you are killing this site, because you couldn't IMAGINE just listening to music without being able to blog at the same time.
>>118174033 Eh, having something like a weekly thread for them wasn't all that exciting. Is still listen to r/a/dio daily, but having those "special" days with big-ass threads on Christmas and shit are just great.
>>118174083 I follow metathreads because I like being able to reminisce about how things used to be when I was a kid. The r/a/dio faggot just happens to be here as well, and as long as he keeps posting, i'll keep giving him shit for being an autistic faggot who refuses to let go of dumb blogshit threads.
>>118174228 Eh, the entirety of 4chan has been getting worse with the years, but /a/ surprisingly didn't get as bad as other boards. See /v/ for an example of a board that went horribly wrong >But they're bigger than /a/, of course they're worse!
The thing is, their "degradation" happened way too fast and strong. /a/ isn't as bad as /v/ was when it had our number of posters.
It's still bad compared to years ago, but not AS bad.
The thing is, the way we see "fun," fun in the olden days, fun as in periodic manga or r/a/dio or what not, is different from how the majority of this site perceives fun. /b/ and /v/ would rather shitpost and post endless dubs and bait and counterbait and all sorts of other inane shit.
Both require some looseness or flexibility of the rules. In the past, you can be certain that because /a/ was small and tight knit everyone will have this comfy sort of fun. But nowadays, give the shitposters an inch and they swarm in en masse.
I don't know if there's a good solution, but that's just the way it is. /a/'s demographic has enlarged to include too many crossboarders and /v/ermin and cancerous sorts. Hell, they might actually outnumber us at this point.
>>118174291 Youtube reviewers are shit, but plenty of tripfags are constructive. Steiner, Hox, even fucking Daiz.
>>118174663 Im really inclined to think that there still are plenty of older ones, but they changed or are on the verge of "growing out of" anime and manga. Think about it. 2007 was 7 years ago. Someone who was here from the beginning would be in their 30s now.
>>118174938 People want a common enemy to feel united. For now the only enemies are "newfags" and "/v/" both of which can't be proved and are just vague boogeymen used to describe things someone doesn't like.
>>118174986 DJs. Of course the bot sometimes play shit songs, but good and /a/ related songs immediately play after that. What I have problems is, I'm programming through the night, listening to r/a/dio then some faggot DJ comes around and starts playing some American/English bullshit that everyone around here keeps listening already and I can't stand that shit anymore.
>>118174986 Hmm...that wouldn't be half bad. But I think it was a unique time to be on 4chan, from 04 to ~'12. I spent a good deal of time being u18 and it was something else.
But as people grow up their tastes interests and themselves change. They either leave the site or become jaded and wistful like us. Perhaps Im just projecting. But I know for sure that as Ivegotten older and life obligations have become more pressing Ive barely been watching things. I can still jack off to characters in VNs and the like so I know Im not just growing out of anime and manga.
But I know Ive changed, and /a/'s changed, and things will never be like they were.
>>118175412 >But I know Ive changed, and /a/'s changed, and things will never be like they were. Maybe we're fighting too hard to maintain both ourselves and /a/ in order to keep what we've been familiar with all these years?
Should we just let this "old /a/" sense go and stop fighting to maintain and revert and just allow /a/ to change and fit the next generation?
I don't like the idea but I'm not having as much fun as I've had.
Well I'm not ready yet so I'll think on it for another year and keep fighting for right now.
>Back in my d/a/y (get it kid? Day with /a/? Ah fuck you I would have gotten a 'lol' back then) we had sing threads with bedford. And we also made fun of this nerd named Sheldon. I feel like we'd be dwelling in the past too much.
>>118176005 >>Back in my d/a/y (get it kid? Day with /a/? Ah fuck you I would have gotten a 'lol' back then) we had sing threads with bedford. And we also made fun of this nerd named Sheldon. lol oh wait, saying lol isn't fucking allowed anymore
>>118175696 Im not ready yet either. I could never leave /a/ barring something extremely awful. But that doesn't stop the fact that things change and move on.
It's a pipedream but just being in threads like these allows me to reminisce with others on how it was years ago. Like the ravers in England ca. 1988-1994. It was a magical time thats come and gone. But that doesn't mean Im going to move on for good.
And besides, good stuff still hapens. Likethe Tsundere Christmas Carol. Appolgies for response time and grammar issues. Im on my phone.
>>118176005 >the angry old dude That's kind of the point, we've become old dudes by now. The internet is not what it was back then, and it shows. We've just grown up and lost that youthful spark. But I don't see that as a bad thing. It may be less "fun" now, but at least we still can enforce things like good grammar and the like. Some day though, we'll be completely overrun by the new kids, and I think it's up to us to raise them well.
>>118176358 Old in internet time Id say. The big thing now for communication is tumblr and snapchat. For me it is through image and messageboards along with IRC. Webdesign has changed a lot over the last decade (and half) too.
Shoot just look at how anime has changed stylistically in just the last decade too! Time flies. Internet time triply so! >>118176459 Thanks! Itll get here before the weekend god willing.
>>118176358 I'm 23 myself, but face it, we're the "old dudes" of the internet. I've been connected since I was 9. I still remember having a notebook full of urls and feeling like a computer wizard when I discovered GameBoy emulation. Hell, I basically learnt english by myself just to navigate the web. Newcomers today will never experience this, because everything is a click away from their Facebook or Twitter feeds. I hate the web 2.0 with a passion.
I hate "shitposting". And by that I don't mean posting off topic things. I think "shitposting" as a concept. The idea that you can't just post shit for the sake of it, just because you think it's funny. This place was never like this, we always had a shitton of trolls, we always enjoyed acting like a bunch of loud spazes, we reviled on how we could go on a tagent in a thread and had fun with it. Life thrives on rot. But that's not allowed anymore, because we're too scared of boogiemen. So we've killed all our memes (in both senses). We're sterile.
>>118176657 Oh shit I forgot about those! And on the 4chan side we have all sorts of extensions, filters, the catalog.
On the bright side there are still people following our path. I have a friend who despite being u18 has set up emulation on their pc, found and reads visual novels, translates manga, and so on. Things are different of course but they're till definitely the same bent as us. Id like to say, so the curious streak we had isn't fully gone. Definitely inhibited in general though.
>>118177059 It's not like there aren't any more young guys like we were. They are just drowned out on this new age of "social" internet. I don't know if I'm making myself clear, I like to drink on nostalgia threads and I'm pretty drunk right now
>>118177050 Time to dust off some olde copypizza: All of these shitposters bring up my sentiments about meme theory. Of course, meme is french for same, so the theory of sameness in a community.
The concept that with such a large community as an internet shares a culture, despite most likely never having met another individual over the internet in person, is quite astonishing. What this means is that all of the jokes posted in a culture and that are accepted into the culture become common place.
Think of your group of friends, if you have any. You share little in jokes with your friends because of an event that happens, maybe you slip up your words while making an important argument, and the result is humorous.
Now apply this to the internet. The events that happen in a community of millions, even billions. It does not matter if the event only takes up a small amount, or the entirety of the community, there is still an injoke created amongst some and they share it with the rest of the community.
This phenomenon of meme theory can be very dangerous, when thought about. The fact that you can create a joke and have it go from being a small inside joke with around 5 other individuals and if leaked to other people may eventually spread to the whole community makes you think about our society as a whole, and individualism. That joke you just made was yours, but now it isn't. It's a "meme" on the internet, and no longer under ownership of either you or your group. So think of how this could apply out side of jokes.
Meme theory really is a wondrous thing, but also notably dangerous, and I just felt the need to say something about it.
>>118177189 I get what you mean, no worries. Im having some kratom myself. But yeah, web 2.0 I definitely agree with you on. Making everything "social" was...I don't want to say a mistake, but I don't like how it's affected the web. I don't think sites like what we're used to would be tenable in this day and age.
>>118177263 >Of course, meme is french for same, so the theory of sameness in a community. That's wrong though. It's a calque of "gene" coined by Dawkins from the same root as "mimesis". French "même" is unrelated.
>>118177338 >I don't think sites like what we're used to would be tenable in this day and age. I'm thankful to all deities that 4chan is still up. I know that if it goes down a new imageboard would quickly pop up, but it's not gonna be the same. Even with all the new bullshit, moot still hasn't killed off the soul and "old feel" of this site.
>>118177486 You know, now that I think about it, you're right on the mark there. There've been plenty of changes, but the fundamental concept of 4chan,it's feel/soul/what have you, is still there. Times when we get those rare occurences of OC really drive that home. It's like seeing an old friend, old /a/, again.
>>118177486 This, fucking this. I always read people saying >Ah but 4chan is already dead, we should go to Xchan or Ychan! >Even if it does everyone will just migrate to another imageboard
But I honestly think that it truly won't be the same. When 4chan dies I think I'll probably be done with imageboards. Maybe I'll lurk and post a few months after its death, but I'm sure I'll quickly get bored with them.
moot is a fucking faggot but it's as you said: 4chan still has the same "soul".
>>118177798 Yeah, this >>118177896 It WILL happen when 4chan dies. Someone(heck, maybe even Daiz or Woxxy) will try and make a Prettier and Better™ *chan with, oh, all the freedom you can have! And the mods are great, and the janitors don't do it for free and there's no cucks and oppression and no captcha and it'll run in 12bit.
It'll last for a while, boosted by the death of 4chan, then quickly fade into nothingness, like pretty much any other imageboard made by people that didn't like 4chan.
You're either a faggot or fujoshit because /a/ could hardly care less about Drrr when it aired and what remained of the viewers several weeks after airing, they all dropped it when that retarded possessed sword arc happened
>>118178575 >>118178769 I wasn't here long before sage got deleted, but it was pretty bad. There'd be a bunch of posts that just said "sage" and "saged" and eventually it would have the opposite effect of what it was supposed to do.
>>118181752 Because he's trying to turn us all into normalfags. 4chan is (or was, before it became facebook 2.0) a place you go when you are at your lowest point as a social outcast. It is the place where you can get some social interaction in your cold meaningless life. Over time on 4chan you start interacting with people, and eventually make some friends off the site (streams, r/a/dio, online games on old /v/, etc.). Eventually go into skype calls, etc.
Eventually one day you realize that talking to people isn't too bad after all, and try talking to some more real people from time to time. Slowly you start coming back out of your shell and become a boring normal person with a girlfriend and job, just like moot.
If 4chan wasn't there, you probably would have killed yourself, but it's there for you until you're ready to move on. 4chan is basically the school from angel beats, and moot is keeping it going because he wants to be able to help the people at their lowest point get back on their feet.
Why else would he run a site with basically break even revenue levels and massive logistic issues for over a decade? Do you really think he watches anime anymore? Do you really think half of us even watch anime anymore?
It's not about the topics discussed, and it never was.
>>118181978 >Over time on 4chan you start interacting with people, and eventually make some friends off the site (streams, r/a/dio, online games on old /v/, etc.). Eventually go into skype calls, etc. >Eventually go into skype calls, etc. Jesus Christ.
>>118171640 Wow. I'm not sure if this old man was pathatic or god. How can somebody that fucking old be into japanese cartoons? Did he just completely fuck up his attempts at a social life or did he just not care. I really don't know if I should insult him or honor him.
>>118181978 This site does not turn people into normalfags; if anything quite the opposite. While I'm sure it keeps some people from killing themselves, it does absolutely zero to help people move away from it and get back to the 'real world'.
I hope you realize you are honestly suggesting that this site helps you get a girlfriend, and how dumb you are for saying that
>Why else would he run a site with basically break even revenue levels and massive logistic issues for over a decade? Watch his ROFLCon speech and you'll know why.
>>118182905 >that this site helps you get a girlfriend, and how dumb you are for saying that moot on several occasions have brought up stories of how people have told him that they've met their significant other on here.
He also declined a wedding invitation when he did a meet-up in Seattle.
No, not really. I never pay much attention to spammers. I can only remember the worse cases because they were the hardest to ignore. Like the post with a sexy Japanese woman with tattoos claiming it was the hottest video ever. I never found anything else on that girl or even if there an actual video of her.
There are no streams where /a/ consistently flocks. Back in the day, you could fire up a stream about fuck knows what, mods would likely not give a fuck or it would fly under their radar because the users weren't aggressively reporting, and there would always be a decent amount of people come to it.
What gets that nowadays besides Toradora streams for Christmas? Nothing. Even then, mods deleted some of those threads.
>>118183604 >you can either go with things you don't like or you're a faggot
This is exactly the mentality that caused /a/ to become so boring. It's not elitism, the majority is just appropriating their faggotry over others and the minority has no way to object because it's deemed shitposting by the majority.
No anon, it's your thoughts that let it be shit in your mind. As it goes in others who share your thoughts while others enjoy what they have over time. Do you allow it to be fun or do you be miserable with what you got over the years? All up to you.
>>118183832 >it's your thoughts that let it be shit in your mind.
This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read. This is meant to be free expression, not being programmed into liking the garbage tastes and behaviors of others. It's like you aren't even attempting to understand the previous posts. What it is now doesn't affect what it was before.
>people are actually emotional over their 4chan message board being boring
Holy shit guys, not to sound like a normalfag, but this place has always been trash. The default culture on this board is to shitpost and act like an idiot, argue about waifus, and other nonsense. If you want actual anime discussion, go to reddit
>>118184094 Never really got this. I've visited /v/ a few times because /a/ is always talking about how bad it is, but everytime I visit, it's normal. First time I had a good time in an Ocarina of time thread, I visited again for the Oculus rift thing, E3, and a few days ago there was even discussion about the new Zelda trailer and SSB4. Also binding of isaac threads.
I don't play many video games, so I don't visit often enough to really see the place, but I really can't see this whole /v/ being bad meme from the few times I did visit.
How old are most of you guys? Twenties? Face it, you won't be browsing this place for much longer. The current underage posters are the "next generation" of /a/. And with that comes an entire different /a/, don't get mad that this place is different from before.
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