ITT good tsundere
That's the thing about good tsundere, they're so dere you almost forget they were tsun at some point.
The greatest of them all has arrived.
A good tsundere develops over the course of the series until the turning point arises. The beginning is all tsun, then more tsun, and then certain moments develop bits of dere inside the female character's mind. The more gradual and subtle it is, though, the better. A good tsundere should have a longer section of tsun then dere. A bad tsundere is one where both the tsun and dere are prevalent during the introduction of the character. That's when you know that the writer's are only cashing in on the archetype.
All dubs, A-chan confirmed best.
Chocolate is best tsundere ever.
D..don't get me wrong. I'm not letting you have sex with me because I like you i..idiot, it's just, just that I had an itch and wanted a dick in me and you happened to be nearby. So don't get the wrong idea ok? I don't like you at all.
>annoying no fun bitch infected by muh feminisn in murrica
>infected by muh feminisn in murrica
She is more dere than tsun.
Wow. Has there ever been a better tsundere than Ai?
I completely agree with this chart. However i hate that you posted it and i hate this thread because all it does is spark a flamewar we've has 1000+ times that always ends in Shitposting
>I've seen less than 10 shows only
>Hating a classic like Asuka and a qt like Kirino
Posting one of my favorite tsundere won't let you off the hook.
Stop being so tsundere for tsundere.
Oh, you're such a riot trolling so early in the morning. Here, I'll post your favorite girl and Biribiri for being good tsundere.
What do you mean she's not a Tsundere?
She acts bitchy in an obviously insecure way around guys, Shinji sees right through her and saves her from drowning in magma, so she flirts and makes out with him while also being jealous of him and generally bitchy.
Isn't that textbook tsundere behavior? She only goes crazy after Shinji starts pussying out and almost lets Zeruel destroy humanity, her crush dies and then an angel invades her mind.
You don't have to. For us who are regulars in those threads the truth is that and isn't even a big deal, just common knowledge.
Only when I say this in tsundere threads you respond, but when I say the same in Raildex threads people usually agree with me and no one even dares to argue otherwise. Proof that it is indeed the majority of fans that thinks so.
>Gets ignored in Raildex and ghost threads
>Has to samefag and use copypasta to agree with himself
>Tries to pass that off as majority
>Rationalizes anyone who likes her as a die-hard fan instead of just a fan
You know you're full of shit, but go ahead and keep deluding yourself.
How long do I have to wait until this turns into a Kirino thread?
She isn't. She has no tsundere traits. She has no secret fondness of Shinji and all of her actions in the show are in relation to her feelings for an older man, to whom which she does not act tsun at all. >>119039701
Same to you. The actions you described have nothing to do with being tsundere. She flirted with Shinji and made out with him because she wanted to be grown up because the man she wanted was taken by an adult woman. Asuka isn't tsundere, she's just a relatively normal teenage girl.
Reminder that biribiri is worse than houki
I don't know why people don't post her, She is textbook perfect tsundere.
All tsunderes are good in my opinion and some are better than others. Louise is my favorite tsundere but I don't expect everyone to like her even though the MC deserved to get abused like the dog that he is. Just thought I should let you guys know.
Are you delusional anon? It sure looks like it.
Both are pretty shitty tsunderes, but agreed.
At least Houki has dem Houkis, a better body and a better VA.
Oh wait, wrong one.
Your fav. mg is shit too anyway
>I love both Louise and Kurisu
Get to my level, pleb.
>My favorite monstergirl
Y-You take that back!
I like this pattern, so I shall continue it.
Both are the same kind of shitty modern tsundere with terrible tsun-dere ratio, switching between tsun and dere at the drop of a hat without never undergoing any meaningful development beyond "I want the MC's cock but I am too much of a dishonest, self-entitled, coward and violent bitch to admit it".
Don't completely agree. It depends on the way they do it. If you're just a full out bitch you're not suddenly going to slowly turn into a loving little girl. Those parts of the character should be there from the start, as they are with actual human beings.
However the dere shouldn't just start growing and growing till it's the main characteristic. In my opinion a good tsundere is one that gets established as being such quite early on, but sticks to the character she's given. No sudden increase in tsun, no sudden increase in dere. Humans don't work that way. Just make her acting bitchy and snarky part of the character, but have her show compassion to her friends when needed, and don't turn her into a sloppy mess that avoids the guy as soon as she develops even the slightest of feelings.
>In my mind, humans work the way I want them too
>There is no such thing as an unpredictable person
>I have a PhD in psychology
>inb4 stop putting words in my mouth
You're pretty much saying this
Am I the only one here who actually really likes Misaka?
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Of course not, BiriBiri is olev
Misaki is superior.
Any deredere that ever says "I want your cock" is instantly shit. No exceptions.
Any kuudere that ever says "I'm too
kuuto like you is instantly shit. No exceptions.
Any dandere that ever says "
____________________________________________is instantly shit. No exceptions.
Any yandere that ever says "I REALLY WANT YOUR COCK!
DON'T EVER BETRAY ME OR I'LL CUT YOUR DICK OFF"is instantly shit. No exceptions.
Misaki and Misaka work best as a duo, neither is better than the other.
He's right though,
Good to know there are comrades here
Squidward isn't tsundere, he's the snarky MC who plays the straight man when surrounded by nutjobs. He's undersea Kyon, right down to being voiced by Sugita in the Japanese dub.
This is what the influx of terrible abusive modern tsundere cunts have done to people. They have made people forget what tsunderes actually fucking are.
Not extinct, I'm in most every raildex thread, I just don't post tons of Mikoto because THK will appear and the thread will turn into a shitstorm, there hasn't been any new content in a while that has been meaningful so there isn't any reason to argue.
>Tsundere thread #7214
>A tsundere Christmas Carol creation
If I didn't know better, I think tsundere /a/ is tsundere for tsundere. Then again, /a/ is Kyon, something I knew all along.
Good thing she got turned into a fairy, I wonder which girl is still around and has been since volume 1. Oh yeah, it's Mikoto, I remember.
Both Index and Mikoto are THE main girls. Pic related.
Superior tsundere, better cat-themed show from around the same time, deader source material author.
Do you realize she will still be around and having an important role alongside Touma, right? She's also still more important and closer to Touma than Mikoto will ever be.
I'm sure she'll be a nice infobot plot device, can't wait for Mikoto to get her powerup. Reminder that she is Nuit.
Phonetically that is how it is pronounced. There are a few minor points like the rolled "r" in Japanese and the rise and where emphasis is placed on the word with rising and falling tone, but essentially it's correct.
Not my fault that Kamachi and Fuyukawa are setting her up to be more relevant later on.
There actually is, overally screentime is important for one, and two she has HER OWN series, if that doesn't make her a main girl, nothing does.
I've had 2 long lasting relationships with actual irl tsunderes, so I'm not ashamed to admit that I love them.
Nothing better than a girl who doesn't give a fuck about what people think open up to you and take you as her emotional pillar.
No, not really. Besides, Index acts nothing like the main heroine of a story in relevance and role, but she still is the main girl no matter what. Mikoto has more relevance and role than her, but she's still only 2nd to Index. That's just how it works, see >>119048440
>Not my fault that Kamachi and Fuyukawa are setting her up to be more relevant later on.
Just like they did with Railgun SS2... oh wait.
>HER OWN series
She's a protag in her own series and a secondary character in Index. Nothing more, nothing less.
>not even him
Sure you aren't THK, you aren't fooling anyone.
The only "good" tsunderes are normal girls with tsundere tendencies who don't let it be their entire personality, and aren't gorillas who constantly physically abuse the object of their affection.
Reminder that Mikoto won the title of best female LN character for 5 years straight, as well as winning the #1 Overall light novel character, beating out Touma and 8man. She placed 2nd in the female poll this year, but 5 years is a legendary run at the top.
I don't like her, I love her
looks are deceiving, friend
Not sure if I can give you the benefit of the doubt thinking you are new thus ignorant since you make it sound like you've been around long enough to know about people calling THK out. I'll go ahead and do it anyways though.
THK always and I mean always repeats the same shit and that's how I know it is him. I'm one of the very few whose autism matches that guy's own, so I argue with him all the damn time. One of his most used argument to slander and hate is "grand scheme of things," and closer to Touma nitpicking. People have argued with him to death, myself included, and it can go nowhere or somewhere, but he next day he'll act like it never happen and repeat it as fact.
>Thinking any of these fakes can surpass the original.
Retarded logic. Komoe or Kanzaki would be more main girls than Othinus if that was the case.
Face it, Mikoto only has her huge unwarranted screentime going for her, but as far as importance and impact on the plot, and mutual development with Touma (which are the most relevant traits for a main girl) goes, Mikoto is below Othinus and Index.
Why keep arguing then? If you would have ignored him he might have fucked off. It wasn't this bad a few months ago but now THK is mentioned like 200 times every thread, it's utterly impossible to take anything here seriously.
This is the greatest reaction face in the history of anime.
Think before you post. Komoe and Kanzaki aren't main girls, so why would they be included in the order for MAIN girls?
Using Touma, Accelerator, and Shiage would be a far more logical and correct comparison instead for having the order matter.
I don't agree, but you can think whatever you want. The order still matters.
The order matters but not as much as actual relevance and mutual development with the protagonist.
Rikou and LO are the only main girls for Shiage and Accel because they are the only ones that have mutual development, are important and meaningful for both characters and the order of appearances didn't matter much for that.
It's exactly the same for Othinus and Index regarding Touma.
Knowingly taking the bait is just as bad as posting the bait you retard
THK doesn't think it's bait. Besides, I drive him into the corner pretty often. It's always a funny spectacle to see him fumble and come up with nonsense to get out of it.
You shouldn't speak lies, THK.
ctrl + F: victorique = 0 hits.
Just what are you people on?
speak for yourself, mikoto a cute
All you can prove is Index is more main and important to Touma. It doesn't disprove Mikoto being the second main girl who is important too.
>Trying to start that now
It's too late for that now. I'm sure you'll bait with provocations, but you'll play with yourself tonight.
Asuka's mental breakdown could have been completely avoided here.
>It doesn't disprove Mikoto being the second main girl who is important too.
Mikotofags once again being blind to the factual evidence presented and pretending to be retarded.
I personally wouldn't even call her Tsundere, but others insist that she is.
If she is Tsundere she's clearly the best there is.
>thinks this is a "main character" argument
>thinks comparing Fiamma and Accel is the same as comparing Othinus and Mikoto when Othinus was the most powerful, important boss so far, the girl with most development with Touma and whose shared story with him is leagues above the normal scale of the series (literally thousands of years and countless deaths worth) compared to a girl who hardly has any business with the conflicts in the series and has zero development with Touma
>implying both Fiamma and Accel don't have around the same level of importance in the story
Othinus was greater than Fiamma. You can't even compare them, just like you can't mirror that comparison to Othinus and Mikoto, because you'll only end up being ridiculed for trying to imply Mikoto is in any way or sense more important or relevant than Othinus, as character, heroine and girl for Touma.
Accel is a key part in Aleister's plans, his relevance and role has always been important and well-established.