The first two rebuilds were a bait and switch for the 3rd.
You liked everyone being happy and not mentally disturbed? Well fuck you, you're everything that's wrong with Eva, take this strange lump of everyone suffering, and be confused and irate, like you should be.
>>119068874 I wouldn't say so. If you like the first two, you're part of the group of the audience that requires there to be a constructive element along with believable storytelling devices. (characters, plot etc)
The third one lacks any such constructive or believable elements and is more fanservice and action hooped up together. It's entirely superficial and essentially only exists to appeal to fans that don't set any standard besides looks, which would be the actual problem with the "audience" in the fanbase.
Instead of understanding and absorbing the story, they just pick anything that looks cute and cool then run with it. The 3.0 characters are barely characters.
Rei Q for instance has some sort of "token development" going on that doesn't have any meaning, no real beginning or end. What's left is the "clone girl vulnerable pinocchio" moe, which I suppose some losers in the crowd will find appealing.
>>119068373 >Two films were spend building up something nice Really? because I feel like Pokanami have an really generic character development. Even with that I like Pokanami (mostly because I am an Shinji X ReiFan)
>>119069054 Not even close. I suspect you're trolling, but consider pic related anyway.
There's nothing interesting about Rei Q, in 1.0/2.0 you have Rei being developed down a new route which has all that weight and credibility behind it that you should expect from an Evangelion character. Now that brings you into some interesting what-if situations you can actually look back on and piece together in an interesting way.
Rei Q of course, doesn't have anything. She just plays on retarded moe and that's the entire character. Maybe it's "interesting" (read: sexually appealing) if you're a retarded, worthless fat otaku piece of shit, but for anyone who considers characters more than doujin material, not really.
>>119069821 What I mean with "adoration and misinterpretation" was that people possibly liked Rei for being weak and submissive and generally being a doll. Anno gave them just that and that bothered them so much.
>>119069178 You've got them the other way around. Rei 1.0/2.0 is the boring generic waifu character, who's all about, "I love Shinji, imma cook for Shinji." 3.0 Rei goes back to her, "who am I?" roots.
i jsut watced nge for the first time this weekend with my gf. she told me to skip on the last two episodes and watch end of eva instead, something about it bein the true ending due to budget cuts or some shit. That shit was fucking garbage. I mean this show did a bit of build up for a lot of characters only to leave shit unresolved. Not that it would've mattered because the plot was fuck all retarded. This show did a really good job on not giving info on the world. Lilith is shown, like fucking twice throughout the series and im somehow supposed to know she accidentally kicked adams punk ass off the planet? And who the fuck are these even more advanced beings that created them? So advanced they don't know how to set a god damned course that they wouldn't run into each other. I don't know, i dont really watch anime or read manga, but am I missing some shit? I'm guessing there's a manga, but is there like another animated? for instance, i've never seen Rei in that suit in the op.
>>119070870 Most of the information considering the lore around Adam and Lilith comes from NGE2 There's the manga, but it's Sadamoto's version of what happens in the anime. There's some changes to the plot, and Sadamoto explains events differently than Anno does. I'd recommend it, but it's not essential in understanding NGE. The suit you are confused about is from the Rebuild movies.
>>119069030 This is so much bullshit. 3.0 is pure fujo fanservice. Does tumblr seriously think they are exempt from pandering? Plus Mari and Asuka's breasts jiggle in their plugsuits and we get a full view of Rei Q's ass. And every single character is stupid as fuck. Asuka entirely revolves around Shinji, Rei Q wants to be accepted by him for no reason and Kaworu wants to give him everything in the world just because.
They tried to do what they did in NGE with Rei 3, but failed. Rei 3 was the completed soul and acted even more alien, but still cared for Shinji in her own odd way. They tried going the alien root by making her emotionless, but it just came off as sudden.
>>119072502 >Asuka entirely revolves around Shinji, Rei Q wants to be accepted by him for no reason and Kaworu wants to give him everything in the world just because. But that's how they acted in the original series too.
>>119072773 Nope. Asuka did not revolve around Shinji nor did Rei. Rei came to like Shinji later and Asuka grew into a mix of detesting him and sexual frustration, but both had way more issues than Shinji.
Really? You'd support the rebuild after they turned her from an introspective wilting flower in a perpetual existential crisis to the quiet girl in the Shinji harem? I almost threw up when she asked Gendo for a family dinner. My god. few people hate rebuild as much as I do.
>3.33 was the last movie in the timeline >The next movie will take place between 2.22 and 3.33 >the last we see of the three pilots was them walking on ahead into the future >the trailer at the end of 3.33 and the expo short was the epilogue >the title consists of nothing but previous titles in the Rebuilds. It is a reference that the movie is going to be on the past, despite being the fourth installment
>>119073386 >implying that was out of character Reifags always seem to forget the scene in the original where she blushes after Shinji cleans up the garbage in her room. Or when she blushes when Shinji says she's like a mother. 2.0 Rei is a realistic evolution of that character.
God damn, faggots who get pissed over Rei Q being an unlikeable, bland character miss the entire point of her existence. She's supposed to discard Rei's previous development and "cheapen" her as a character, that's the whole tragedy of the movie. In addition to being a tragedy in how the world is fucked due to Shinji's actions to save Rei, it also reveals to Shinji that his efforts to save her only led to her being trapped in space and replaced by a plastic copy as if she wasa mass-produced tool. This shows how Shinji's hamartia made everything he loved fall apart, cementing the tragedy. But leave it to anime fans to completely miss the point of a deliberate characterization change because it makes their waifu look bad.
1) Rei has the soul of Lilith, allowing her to respawn between clones in the Ayanami Series
2) When Shinji pulls Rei out of the core of Zeruel, he achieves a 3rd Impact triggered by himself, Yui, Rei and Zeruel merging. When this happens, the camera pans down to Lilith in Central Dogma. When we see Lilith again in 3.33, she has transformed into the Giant Naked Rei but is currently a "corpse" because Kaworu stuck her with a bunch of spears
This confirms that Rei IS Lilith in a sense, that her soul returned immediately to its true form when 3rd Impact began. However, since Lilith is a corpse, it is inferred that Rei's soul has left Lilith.
3)Misato says that they couldn't find signs of Rei in Eva 01's LCL. They found her keepsake in there, but not Rei herself. Fuyutsuki agrees with this: he believes that Rei's soul entered the core of Eva 01.
4)Kaworu calls Rei Q "artificial" and says that this means her soul is "placed differently". This prevents her from using the spears. Now it artificial means that she's an albino clone with a (suppressed?) angel soul, Kaworu would qualify too, but he's not artificial because he is able to use the spears just fine. So Rei 2 would not have been artificial.
5)Rei Q also pilots a special Eva whose internal intelligence is actually a shard of Adam's Soul and whose entire bio-structure is a self-regenerating angel core. If she had the soul of Lilith inside of her, this would be very dangerous because it would mean that someone else in an Eva could potentially trigger an Impact if they interacted with her Eva in the wrong way.
6) Rei Q is mentally blank. She has no memories or personality. However, she is disturbed when she realizes that she isn't the original Rei. She has the will to develop an identity, and actually makes improvement over the course of 3.33, following Asuka and Shinji out of the rubble without being ordered to.
Conclusion: Rei Q is a botched Rei 3. In NGE, Rei 3 respawned without a hitch: her soul brought personality, confused memories and relationships with others along with it. Her essence as Lilith fully awakened, but she rejected Gendo's instrumentality in favor of Shinji's because even though she couldn't remember her death, she cared more for Shinji than for Gendo.
But Rei Q didn't get the soul properly put in her body. The soul is still "placed" inside of Eva 01's core, and basically only a shard of it is inside Rei Q. Rei Q is being remote controlled by her soul from a very long way away. She is essentially in a dreamlike state without memory of her former self.
This is played for drama: Shinji, by saving Rei, prevents her from respawning normally and instead causes her to suffer from complete loss of memory and personality. 3.33 is actually more bleak and tragic than the original series.
But despite this, he actually manages to bring back the faintest sliver of the Rei he knew in her, when he causes her to question her own identity and choose to follow him.
It goes to say, of course, that it would probably take an Impact or the correct spear or something to re-united Rei's soul with her body, because of how difficult it is to extract someone from the core. But if 3.0+1.0 mirrors parts of EoE this will likely be what happens during Shinji's instrumentality.
Rei Q is Anno's attempt to criticize Reifags amd fans of generic Rei clones by showing them that what they desire is actually an ugly and hideous thing. Anno has done this sort of thing from the beginning, the reason Asuka was the way she was was a commentary on how actually fucked up a girl who acted like the tsundere archetype would have to be on the inside. Rei Q is just another attempt to criticize fans of a generic archetype that he helped create.
>>119074986 >>119075334 They make a point of pointing out that Rei Q is not Rei. Even that new trailer shows it. Asuka gets all of her incarnations shown, showing that Shikinami and Soryu are one and the same, whereas Rei Q is simply there without anybody else shown, and Quantum Rei has Rei Q reflected, indicating that she's merely an outsider to the broader Rei consciousness. Rei Q is a true Rei 3, a Rei who isn't Rei but her own person.
Can't we just agree that at this point Anno is just bitter and will do whatever will piss off fans the most, changing his targets at a moment's whim? Asuka had her time as the punching bag, now it's Rei's turn
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