ITT we discuss how secondaries will react to heavens feel and all the bullshti that happens in it.
Calling it now, they will say it is betetr than zero.
Pretty probable they'll say it's better than Zero.
If the secondaries are so cancrous as they appear to be, they'll adopt wormslut and try to defend that shitty character.
Also, as UBW will become pretty intense in the lategame they'll split in two factions and fight themselves to death anyway.
Why would they say it's better than zero?
Why do you think they'll like UBW 2nd cour?
Do you even know why people like zero?
Why is secondary such a retard meaningless buzzword to you people?
They won't say it's better than Zero simply because the characters are still highschoolers so they think it automatically makes the show not as mature or "unique". Trust me, I tried changing someone's mind. It won't work.
Every single time.
But UBW is the best route
All three routes are better than Zero the anime, UBW and HF are better than Zero the novel. Fight me.
>Why would they say it's better than zero?
Because it is
>Why do you think they'll like UBW 2nd cour?
Because the rising action and climax is more exciting than the exposition, like any other story
>Do you even know why people like zero?
But Ilya is the best girl
>Fate route is better than the Zero anime
>Fate route is better than any other part of the series
Let's not get ahead of ourselves
Heaven's feel wasn't Ilya's route.
Any route on the VN is better than the Zero anime. Fate focused on a lot of the world building in the game, which (while text dumpy as hell) is one of Nasu's greatest skills. Reading Fate before UBW and HF obviously does it a favour because it pales in comparison to those routes, but I can honestly say I enjoyed it more than the F/Z adaption.
Reminder not to be deceived by sunk cost VNfag primaries.
They made the decision long ago to gorge themselves on an inferior medium, knowing full well that a superior, high budget, high quality better medium version was in the works.
They traded quality for early access to content. And misery loves company, they will stop at nothing to trick newfriends into making the same mistake they did.
You should do the following, at the bare minimum
1. Watch Fate/Zero
2. Watch UBW (UFOTABLE)
3. Decide to wait out for the end of UBW, or if you really must and cannot contain your autism to win nerdbattles on /a/, you can play the VN
4. Ditto for the last, worst, wormroutes like HF.
There is zero reason to choose an objectively inferior, decade old eroge VN over a far superior, better artstyle, animated, version of it.
Additionally the other fate releases spoil Fate/Zero -- the best standalone release of the entire fate series. It is idioitic to complain about how it ruins a subpar route like HF, when reading HF/FSN spoils Fate/Zero.
Fate/Zero is one of the greatest selling anime of all time for good reason. And /a/ will never stop being butthurt over it.
>am i fitting here in the sekrit club? xD
>They made the decision long ago to gorge themselves on an inferior medium, knowing full well that a superior, high budget, high quality better medium version was in the works.
>was in the works
No really unless you are a newfag.
There are plenty of people who've read the VN who boast about being not being a secondary even though they have about as much understand of the series as someone who read a wiki page.
>not the worst in HF
All the emo 14 year olds are going to be digging HF and it's dark themes.
>Even more when she pretty much does the equivalent of pulling her fucking heart out.
Can't wait for the AMVs.
Reminder It only counts if you read it in Japanese, EOPrimaries.
Because rhino and saber shitters can't deal with the fact that the best girl got the best and canon route.
Written by Gen Urobuchi
Illustrated by Shinjirou
Published by Kadokawa Shoten
Magazine Young Ace
Original run February 2011 – ongoing
>HF is the canon end
As canon as Kohaku True.
So i'm going full-bore in Tsukihime right now, and im still enjoying it, but not as much as when I did Arc's route for the first time.
I come into these fate threads all the time because the content looks pretty badass and I like what Ive seen in the nasuverse so far (from the Tsukihime side of things). Anyway I'm resisting the urge to become a secondary because all of the animated works looks really, really great and I kind of want to just jump into them without hitting the VN first.
I mean, we're talking about DAYS of playtime here, which translates to weeks when you throw in work and life and having to poop and all that bullshit. So I guess what I'm asking is this: is it worth my time investment to complete the VN first?
Sure is shit taste in here
Written by Hiroshi Hiroyama
Published by Kadokawa Shoten
Magazine Comp Ace
September 2007 - Ongoing
The people who argue which route is superior are usually arguing under the guise of actually thinking their route is superior but, the more they post their butt upset arguments about "the girl in my route is better than the girl in your route" start to surface.
>So i'm going full-bore in Tsukihime right now, and im still enjoying it, but not as much as when I did Arc's route for the first time.
What are you trying to say?
Also read the VN
OF FUCKING COURSE
EVERY SINGLE HFSHITTER IS A FUCKING SAKURAFAGGOT
THEY CANNOT DEFEND THE FUCKING WHORE OF WORMS ON HER OWN
THEY MUST RETREAT TO 'MUH ROUTES'
>implying Archer's route isn't the most canon one
Whatever the anime adopts is what nasu selected to be The Most Canon.
Two possibilities exist.
1. Nasu has creative, canon control of the anime and selected which route was the cannonest and most deserving of an anime.
2. Nasu does not have creative & canon control of the anime.
If nasu wanted to keep this "harem end" multi-canonverse going he'd have made the anime follow multiple/all routes.
You'll have to wait for Nasu To Hand Down His Final, Irrevocable Judgement On Your Route.
Why are wormslut fags so cancerous? Why do they have to get upset over everything?
>EVERY SINGLE HFSHITTER IS A FUCKING SAKURAFAGGOT
Drown in your shit taste and die
Whatever reality Zelretch observes, becomes the true reality, the canon route or whatever you may call it. For the reality that never had a forth HF, Prisma Illya reality is canon. For FSN reality, HF is canon since he was there and observed it.
Rhino and Saber shitters yet again showed how little they know about Nasuverse. Fucking retards.
illya fags are prismafags and silent zerofags
Holy shit, just fuck off. No one cares if your route is canon.
Canon is LITERALLY the only thing that fucking matters in online arguments and discussions
IT'S THE ONLY THING. IT IS CANON. IT IS WHAT IS CANONICALLY TRUE
IT IS WHAT IS BINDING AND REAL AND DECIDES WHO IS *RIGHT* AND WHO IS *WRONG*
>oh shit i've got two different fanbases
>I can't pander to one without canonically pissing off the other
>Wahaha! both canons are true! EVERYONE WINS EVERYONE GIVES ME MONEY!!
Zeltrech still exists in every route
Source: not being a retard
That's including Tiger Dojos
>Not saving before every decision
Nasu invented using it in a jewish way to make money instead of as an actual literary or scientific device. He debased the merit of it as a technique.
Need I remind you how he sold out to normalfags?
He said it to not cause a friction between his fans. Just Nasu saving face.
Zelretch doesn't appear in HF Normal.
You don't see him. He is like the observer in Schroedinger's cat experiment. When you see him, he also observes that reality and that outcome becomes canon.
>He said it to not cause a friction between his fans. Just Nasu saving face.
As expected of a fucking kike.
Reminder they only left the H-scenes in the 2014 re-release because they could keep those braindamaged retarded otaku (PC VN) and their mainstream appeal (Anime, LN, etc).
This is a split fandom series, made by the greediest of jews who started with a shitty cheap ero-VN and then sold out and went normie mainstream as soon they possibly could.
They make Jakob and Daiz look like the best of goy.
fate = shirou as a kid = chuu2 shounen shit
ubw = shirou as a teen = shounen for manchildren
hf = shirou as an adult = seinen for mature people
this basically translates into "if you like any route other than hf, you are an underage"
>Zelretch doesn't appear in HF Normal
Then how hasn't Sakura and Rin got a Sealing designation yet? Zelretch literally has to step up and save their ass. He's there in HF Normal and True, quit being a retard.
>Word of God contradicts me
>HURR DURR HE'S JUST BEING RETARDED MY THEORY IS RIGHT
Notice how Nasu never created a "canon" route for Tsukihime either?
That he based Melty on the "Sachin-route" which will never exist?
>Then how hasn't Sakura and Rin got a Sealing designation yet? Zelretch literally has to step up and save their ass. He's there in HF Normal and True, quit being a retard.
Don't write your fanfiction please.
Canon is the route with your favorite girl in it.
>none of them are canon
>all of them are canon
that's logically inconsistent; try again
that means every single one of your series is intellectual bankrupt noncanon fanfiction
>You don't see him
>Therefore he's not there, despite Fate sharing continuity with Tsukihime and Fate's divergences having absolutely nothing to do with him, because otherwise it would invalidate my arbitrary headcanon for validating my opinions based on a cop out by the author to say that everything was equally canon
Every single choice presented to the reader is an equally valid sequence of events
So I know this thread started up shitty but I isn't there a Sakurathread that could have been turned into Bait-central?
Learn to Schrödinger's cat pls. Only one outcome is true but every other possibility is also equally valid. But in the end the cat is either dead or alive. The observer decides the outcome and Zelretch is the observer.
>You clearly are if you believe Zelretch doesn't appear in HF Normal
I don't have to believe since he didn't appear in it.
You first, shitposting fan fiction writing faggot.
Tertiary here, I just come to fate threads to funpost
1. Rin (Too many secondaries)
2. Illya (Tryhards)
3. Sakura (hardly exist, but terrible when they do, mostly attempt to pass it off as being HFfags)
4. Saber (Even less than sakura, or at least, they never post anything inflammatory against the others.)
Then why is Rin scott free at the end of HF normal then? Why is she living a happy life while Sakura, dispite being a walking Grail living with no problems down her ass? The evidence is there that Zelretch appeared to save Rin's ass from the Association.
FSN routes are Shirou as he grows up. Fate represents Shirou as a kid who thinks his ideals are facts and must be true. Hell, even the heroine is straight out of a shounen manga trope "sudden girlfriend appearance". Not to mention she is a textbook example of "foreign beauty". Every fight is would look at home in a shounen manga.
Deny it all you want. You know it to be true.
>Then why is Rin scott free at the end of HF normal then? Why is she living a happy life while Sakura, dispite being a walking Grail living with no problems down her ass?
Who knows? Nasu might know it but I am not gonna write my own fan fiction about it.
>Saber (Even less than sakura, or at least, they never post anything inflammatory against the others.)
You are clearly a biased Saberfag, you lying fucker.This is why shitberfags are the worst they don't even recognize the stench in their threads.
>Naruto of /jp/ is openly accepted and floods /a/
And you claim to be a better board.
>hurr dense durr
You have no proof that he appeared and saved her ass and Sakura. And no, it happening on HF True doesn't mean it will also happen on HF Normal. Stop writing your own fan fiction.
Add penalties for
>Tohsaka Rin's anus
>Rin pleases old men for money
>Saber cuck pictures
>Educated prostitute (haven't seen that in a while)
>Post riddle with buzz words to appear to know what they're talking about despite being completely void of any meaningful information
You've created thr first step to killing your liver
You take that back right now you motherfucker, I will seriously fuck you up.
>EVERY SINGLE HFSHITTER IS A FUCKING SAKURAFAGGOT
Word of God doesn't mean anything as Nasu constantly contradict himself and even if he didn't the only canon is what we can read in the VN. Everything added in interviews and supplementary material may be interesting to read as you can see what some of his original ideas for the story was but as long as it is added afterward it will not be canon.
So is this the consus on /a/ ?
>*favourite route* is canon
>your waifu a shit
>4. Saber (Even less than sakura, or at least, they never post anything inflammatory against the others.)
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
I'm not even a fatefag, I just came here to LAUGH at you, because I've seen how much faggotry Saberfags are.