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Betas, Buddhists, and Bitches
Watch Death Billiards if you haven't already.
It's the original OVA and probably better than the show's first episode.
That goes for anyone in the episode.
The original OVA was released as part of a thing called Anime Mirai. Death Billiards was the second one for 2013. Little Witch Academia was the first.
>Little Witch Academia
Whatever is happening with this? I remember some big fund raiser thing everyone was talking about for a anime series but now I don't see anything about it on this board.
I don't understand why people blindly assume that the scene where she cheats actually happened. Just because the characters say something, and we are shown what they are saying, it doesn't mean it was real.
>I don't understand why people blindly assume that the scene where she cheats actually happened. Just because the characters say something, and we are shown what they are saying, it doesn't mean it was real.
yeah, its anime. nothing is real in the first place
>leave it to /a/ to over analyze it
Slut went into 'bad people' door, because she's a bad person. That's it.
I hope the show keeps a good focus on Dequim and not focus too much on those side characters.
Um, Excuse me? Hi.
What was the point of playing the game of darts if both of their fates were already decided? What if they had not said anything at all and no truths came spilling out? Wouldn't the winner and loser be confused as to why they're going to a certain door regardless of the outcome of the game? Sounds like a load of BS if you ask me.
That is the scene where they enter the elevators.
Unless you mean when they leave them?
He came in on the bad people door because he's the reason they died and most likely because of all the pent up hatred he had.
Also yeah, they changed. Probably because of the results of the game.
Maybe "they" just want to have fun watching people suffer. Maybe the last episode will show this was just a tv show and who wins/loses is decided by a crowd voting. Maybe they fates are not already decided.
Both masks are of demons
So from what I could see, this show is not the kind of show you discuss with /a/.
>What was the point of playing the game of darts if both of their fates were already decided?
You can change fate, Dekim said so.
>What if they had not said anything at all and no truths came spilling out?
It doesn't have to be about spilling truths, look at death billards. Since everything is set up to make them play with their lives on the line, something is bound to happen.
>Wouldn't the winner and loser be confused as to why they're going to a certain door regardless of the outcome of the game?
It's not like they have any idea about how they are judged and where they are sent. They have nothing to get confused about.
I remember when we analyzed the meaning of the masks for the AM short, and it didn't mean anything. Even know what the masks are and seeing the old guy's smirk it's still just an ambiguous end and their fates can be argued any which way.
So going by the contents of the pic we will have:
Ice skating competition?
Something with tops?
Some vidya (probably a fighting game)
Still missing 3 for a 12 ep series have a game for every episodes. What are your bets? Or even, what games would you like too see?
why the hell is he so cute? looks like a husky or something. wanna pet his head and feed him treats.
You right. Why can't people see this? Why do they want to believe the wife chose to sacrifice herself for him when theres nothing pointing to that? Why can't people see that's not the face a self-sacrificing person but rather of someone reflecting on her wrongdoings? Why do they want to believe the wife was not punished? Why?
The context surrounding the game is the test.
It's their actions surrounding the game that decide their fate, not the outcome of the game.
Just like the young guy who was so desperate to live that he beat the old man to death.
Just like the husband attempted to kill his unborn child to spite his wife over a misunderstanding
>5 threads later
>people still think she didn't cheat
Why are people so willing to accept things given to them at face value rather than thinking about things and coming to their own conclusion about what happened? Why do people have to use their heads? Why do people THINK?
Man. Watching the first episode really makes me realize this show did not need an anime. At all. It should have stayed a one shot.
I mean, unless they manage to make all these other characters interesting, in which case I'll eat my hat.
considering the OP highlighted these, we're probably going to see these games played. Not sure if Billiards is already done because of Death Billiards or if we'll get another Billiards episode. Madhouse loves animating CG balls though.
>every pin has a body part
>getting a strike is near fatal
Because the scene where she cheats is shown in the part where she's deliberately talking bullshit. We are also shown she wasn't lying about Mitchy, we are shown the husband is extremly jealous and a paranoid, and we are shown that she's sad.
Now, did she cheat? we don't know for sure (hurr durr we see the scene).
But she did talk and act like that for a reason and I don't think she's smart or cold enough to do that just to make him angry.
Fuck everything I'm rewatching Death Billiards
I'm interested in this chick.
Yeah but the right thinking is that she cheated in the end.
Oh she's reflecting on her wrongdoings, my friends. Pic related.
One thing I really hope we don't get is answers.
I never understood what the old man must have said to the bartender. I never understood why he smiled as the door closed. I never understood which one was going where.
And I think that was the point. If I was supposed to understand it clearly, the bartender would've answered the girl's questions. But he didn't.
I don't really know whether the husband or wife deserved whichever judgement.
As much as I want to understand, I don't think those answers are the point. I think the point is the affective impression of the characters in the moment that they are faced with the situations they are in. The emotions they display, and the actions they choose, and how we feel about them. That I think is the point -for their to be no one answer, but that everyone who watches it should have their own, personal answer based on how the characters, in their height of passion, made them feel.
Because the formula of the show, that is to say, two people playing games to decide where they go after death (or if it even matters), was done so well in Death Billiards that it doesn't NEED to be done again. This episode sort of hammered that in for me, at least right now. Everything that happened, the revelations that the two of them died, the fact that "oh no, they weren't as good people as you'd think", the nebulous outcome to where the two of them went (even though they explain that in the stinger which completely negates the whole point of the mystery behind it) It just doesn't feel like they could keep the formula fresh every episode unless they try some really new things with the people playing the games
That being said, the cast of workers at the Queen Decim seem colorful enough simply from the opening, so hopefully they can carry the show, but atm I'm just not sure.
Fuck, i had not seen the cup in there, forgot to count liar's dice, that is 2 games left, now we have
Ice skating competition?
Something with tops?
Some vidya (probably a fighting game)
>though I do prefer it with about five people instead of two
While i doubt they will do it, if five people died at the same time they could do it, i don't remember a rule saying it should be 2 only.
Yeah, i bet they will play it again, and i bet they will keep the billiards episode for the finale this time.
Shut your mouth.
If this got an anime, maybe one day Wasarenagumo will get one too.
Reposting thoughts from last thread but the way I see it is the person who is still attached to the world in some shape or form gets reincarnated, hence why both people to get reincarnated had those strings attached to them, sorta binding them to the world.
The person with no more attachments to the world enters the void and leaves the realm of life and death.
But without answers, we won't get to see people backpedal on their shit theories.
That's no fun.
Just finished Death Billiards.
Too deep for me, I don't understand what happened to them in the end
>Even though they explain that in the stinger which completely negates the whole point of the mystery behind it
I don't think "reincarnation" and "void" really explains anything at all.
If anything, it just opens even more questions, which I think was the point.
No flashbacks prior were fake. You're assuming that one was because it fits your theory. She also was probably Mitchy and used her friends name to try and decieve the guy.
Pic related, "I'm the cause of all this".
I really can't stop looking at her.
If it wasn't 5 degrees out ant 4am, I'd go for a jog cause she makes me want to better myself.
I think it's pretty obvious that the show is going to be more than just death game of the week with people's true natures coming out over the course of the episode. Judging from the preview there won't even be a game next ep. I get the impression that the whole death game thing is going to be more of a framing device than the actual point of the series.
I pray to the gods that shitty garbage never gets a series. Show makes monster girls to be cruel sluts and the main character is a fucking piece of shit as well.
Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou however is a monster girl series that deserves a anime adaption.
I think the wife was lying about cheating, Decim was surprised by it, and she was facing away.
She still got consigned to oblivion for it though, because somehow having an affair is a much heavier sin compared to murder and abuse.
The husband was shown to be abusive (first two times with the darts was by accident, the third time he was deliberately trying to hurt her and screw her over by stealing her dart to score his own board. Not to mention he flat attacked her when she made that 'confession') and was responsible for BOTH of their deaths. Yet he gets to go reincarnate and forget everything that happened.
Honestly if you want an act of real love and sacrifice, she should really have chosen to be consigned to oblivion TOGETHER with him.
>She also was probably Mitchy
We fucking see the nameplate in the ed showing Mitchy was real and not her. It's basically the only thing we know for sure.
While i agree that this didn't really need a full series, i much prefer to have "interesting already done plot: the series" rather than "yet another fantasy world highschool harem"
Don't worry, no one did when it aired either, it's ambiguous on purpose.
The ending is intentionally left open. You're supposed to decide how to interpret the last few events (the words we don't hear, the smile and the question of 'which one got which judgement') yourself based on your impression of the characters during the game.
That was the gimmick that made the short interesting. In the end, you're the arbiter judging them based on that brief window into their personality and lives. The narrative itself doesn't decide the ending.
>Quendecim only occurs when two people die. >Only two people entered into the elevator.
>Fetuses don't have souls
>the child died in the car accident and was permanently died before Death Parade happened
>most of the baby drama was over something that stopped existing
also pro-life btfo
>newbie in a job that deals around morality and the judgment of who lives and who dies
she's the Akane of Death Parade
she's also very moe
I think that face says "this is the man I married?" in almost disbelief and she just wanted to see what he would do to her if she confirmed his crazy suspicions. Her confession was so over the top, even if she was telling the truth, that it sounds sarcastic.
So did no one actually watch the very end where it's confirmed that she goes to Hell and he is sent back for reincarnation?
She was a person that married for money and cheated. His jealous suspicions were correct and he lost his (although this is debatable?) child. That's how I took it all, anyway.
It's not over analyzing; It clearly isn't as simple as heaven and hell. Buddhism does have the concept of nothingness or the "Void," and reincarnation, so it's at least worth knowing what each of those are, and most people get the wrong connotation out of "Void." It isn't just good door/bad door.
>mfw people keep trying to say the masks are a clear way to determine where which character went not realizing both masks are of demon faces
>show pulls a Sekai Seifuku and completely stops being about death games for 10 episodes while the cast does SOL things
>I think that face says "this is the man I married?" in almost disbelief and she just wanted to see what he would do to her if she confirmed his crazy suspicions.
I don't think that fits the 'wife sacrifices herself for husband' theory.
"monster" girls are kind and only want to be loved. They don't go about twisting they lover into killing their nieces.
this is a name card for Machida Yuuki, which confirms that Machida Yuuki is a real person; however, the most likely case is that Machida Yuuki was not Mitchy and that Michiko was really Mitchy. Michiko was talking in the third person to express her frustrations about her marriage and her convenient doctor boyfriend. This goes in line with the fact that Michiko did in fact cheat on her doctor husband.
>3000 posts later
>people STILL THINK Michiko didn't cheat on her husband
The child died with the mother in the car accident.
Neither of them knew that during the game, of course. The wife still believed she was pregnant and alive throughout the dart game, and the husband had no reason to believe they were both dead, either.
Which is kind of what makes his character interesting. He intentionally threw a dart for her abdomen after being told she was pregnant because he was so convinced that she had been lying to him about everything all this time, that he was willing to risk the fact that he would be murdering his own unborn child just to call her bluff.
The the best part is that while he was right about her cheating, the reason he believed that she was cheating was completely wrong and a total misunderstanding. He knew nothing about the actual affair she was having, and his lack of trust in her came completely from an unrelated conversation that he overheard out of context.
And that conversation was enough evidence for him to risk killing their unborn child.
how about this one?
People will defend a whore to the very death because they think she is going to fuck them.
Yeah, I never said I believed that. But I still think the way the show presented it, I felt the guy was in the wrong the entire time. That's why the outcome surprised me. So I guess I was wrong. But going back, I still can't really see it any other way.
But in Death Billiards, even the hostess doesn't know which door leads to where, so there most likely isn't a definite answer to whether either door goes to reincarnation or nothingness.
>the most likely case is that Machida Yuuki was not Mitchy and that Michiko was really Mitchy.
No Machida Yuuki is the real Mitchy, otherwise there's no reason to show the name card.
>Michiko was talking in the third person to express her frustrations about her marriage and her convenient doctor boyfriend.
That seems extremely farfetched, also do we see her frustrated about her marriage in ANY of the flashbacks?
> This goes in line with the fact that Michiko did in fact cheat on her doctor husband.
Machiko can cheat on her husband even if she's not Mitchy.
If Machiko is Mitchy is completely contradicts the interpretation that she is lying to save her husband at the end, and that's one thing I'm 100% sure is true.
BOOM BOOM BOOM
I don't get it, did the old man go to hell?
If you can't understand that every afterlife isn't good place/bad place, you are not smart enough for this show.
>We have to wait a WHOLE WEEK for the next episode.
Still, I'm happy to see some actual anime discussion for once.
>Yet he gets to go reincarnate and forget everything that happened.
The purpose of reincarnation is to have a chance to relieve one's sins, he didn't get another chance, he just couldn't carry on.
That's way its been so interesting discussing it. The show mostly pictures the guy as mad and hostile, which are almost always the 'bad guys'. But it also shows suble hints that the girl is not so innocent and why she was sent to hell. Personally I think this all makes more sense if cheating all along and thats was not all just a big misunderstanding.
Why the fuck did they give the whole explanation for retards after the ED? One of the greatest things about billiards was how ambiguous it was, probably why it stuck with me after it aired.
Still very promising and a great formula to revisit without getting too old I think.
There will be weeks with ambiguous games like this and we'll go nuts over it.
But then there will be weeks with cute SoL and a colourful cast of characters doing classy lounge things and the threads won't explode.
I;m torn because I think I'll enjoy the SoL more than the games, but I'll definitely enjoy the game threads more.
His hair is too spiky. Husnabd's hair remains a clean and even bowlcut even when he's losing his shit
"He was reincarnated, she went to the void."
Pretty damn clear cut if you ask me.
I remember loving the fact that you weren't meant to know precisely what happened the old dude or the young man.
No, they left it up in the air.
Death Billiards did the same thing; you could tell both were guilty, but who was truly the worst and who should have gone where? They were both equally bad, and both equally deserved it. The winner just chose what they felt was right. There is no right answer though.
>the man in her memory is the husband.
No it isn't.
>She just wanted him to suffer for his mistrust and the pain she inflicted her.
She wanted him to not suffer the guilt of being responsible for their death.
By lying to him and making herself look like a huge bitch, she completely frees him from that.
I RECOGNIZE THAT ADULTURER
He was a bully.
What if she said that the child wasn't his because she meant it was the man she originaly married. Thats what i got from the juxtaposition of the slobbering crying dude and the shot of him at the wedding.
if it makes you guys feel better, that's the "covering your face in shame because the guy from a typical NTR doujin just plowed you". She regrets her decision but not her orgasm.
I wouldn't use reward and punishment, I don't think it's a black and white, heaven or hell mentality you need to have.
But I think it's pretty obvious that reincarnation has positive connotations whereas the void has negative.
How do women know who the father of their kid is, anyways
Like, if she was still having sex with them both on a consistent basis (and she clearly was, if she wasn't having sex with her husband he would've instantly realized the child wasn't his) how on earth could she tell?
But if you're born in a region that is dominated by Islam/Christianity/Judaism it's only natural to believe in a good/bad place as afterlife and not being familiar with these asian concepts.
Absolute trash. Author dares to declare his shallow understanding of moral and judgment as absolute, on a level not even Kira in Death Note was as arrogant and retarded as script writers here.
While there is illusion of some room left to viewer to decide on thier own on the fate of people involved - its fake, since their fate is decided the moment script writer put them both together to such trials.
An astonishing tastles self gratifying wanking of script writer with pretense of death, for shallow people that focus on the bait given to them and not think about the situation itself. It disgusts me some will take it serious and argue for or against the resolution of episodes.
But guess it reflects the overall level of anime and viewership, if they are ready to accept such a shit.
Anyone with taste, well advised to awoid this shit by all means and try something worthwhile - like Bungaku Shōjo or Hell Girl.
>reincarnation has positive connotations whereas the void has negative.
See, this is why the ending was interesting.
The reincarnation/void dichotomy exists in buddhism, and void is the one with the positive connotation.
But they don't use buddhist terminology specifically, so the actual connotation between the 2 fates is entirely ambiguous
Put down the shovel anon, there is no need to dig your own grave.
Bartender seems pretty based, It'll be interesting to see what the other characters around him are suppose to bring.
I'm fucking invincible, at billiards.
So I'm going to assume not every episode will be a trials episode, otherwise there won't be enough time for the other employees. Right?
How many cours is this?
The fact that she had her hands buried in her face in the shot of her NTR moment sort of implies the cheating was a 1-time thing, not an ongoing affair.
Unless her one time nailing that other guy just so happens to line up perfectly with the date of conception, some 10 weeks ago, it's pretty certain that the husband is the father.
that's the thing, we don't know who the father is either. Don't you think it's suspicious that a newlywed wife (who is totally happy with her marriage) wouldn't tell her husband she was pregnant? 10 whole weeks man. She probably counted the dates she was fucking behind his back and the times she fucked her husband and realized something very very wrong.
Hmmm, serves me right for not knowing shit.
Regardless I still preferred not knowing where they went. Seeing as this is a setting to be recycled if they reveal where everybody goes it will become clearer what profile they assign 'right' and 'wrong' to. I don't think they'll be able to balance it every week.
Would it be least man made attraction by some mad sociopath kidnapping people- there would be a point in this show. However it takes tries to go supernatural absolute judgement after life and death topic and is beyound shit at that.
You should be asking yourself not "who is guilty/who is not", but who they hell are the moronic forces that bring specific people to those trials and consider their circumstances worth of judgement (script writer for entertainment).
Unless season ends with someon wrecking their shit and sending God himself to hell, you are basically just watching SAW where the psyhopath is actually untouchable and justified by the writer and whose motives and actions are unquestionable.
You also wouldn't sit on a pregnancy for 10 weeks if you didn't plan on bringing it to term. If she was hiding it because it would implicate her in the affair, then she would've gone all Hills like White Elephants on that shit the moment she had a chance.
normalfags fucking love Death Parade. The intellectual anime that normalfags hate this season is YKA actually.
>we don't know who the father is either.
I think the fact that we see her smiling when she sees the pregnancy test means she has no doubt about who is the father.
And considering the shot directly transitions into her in a wedding dress, everything points towards the husband being the father.
I don't know how related to Buddhism this is but let's just say it is for the sake of this. If you reincarnate it's because you have to live through life's trials again and learn to become "better" loosely speaking. If you can reach nothingness, that means you've "done enough".
So you have to risk your life playing the game huh?
Sounds like it's
no game no life
Maybe she was playing both fields at the same time, one for love and one for money. When she realized she was pregnant she decided to seal the deal with the money source so that her and her child would have a comfortable life and a real family.
She probably couldn't care less about who the actual father is, just as long as someone is paying for it.