>>119682301 Isn't this show about a witch that those loses her powers when she loses her virginity? I recall there being other supernatural beings as well, just pretend it's an alternate universe or something.
>>119682429 >He thinks that shitty comic was historical accurate >He thinks it wasn't made by teeaboos Protip: The French won the hundred year war
The anime is set after Joan of arc's death IIRC, and while it certainly isn't perfectly accurate, the only glaring inaccuracy I noticed were the gambesons having holes at the armpits, which means that they were probably based on reenactment replicas made by people who didn't know how to sew them properly.
>>119682429 It takes place in the later stages of the war. Wich was pretty much perfid albion getting raped 24h/24h and not wanting to conclude peace on France's terms to stop the war because they were too buttdevastated to realize they no longer had any chance of winning. >>119682301 Haven't watched the show yet, but I don't see anything inacurate here, unless it's supposed to be about a famous battle. Also, I read a bit of the manga, and it's definitly not to be taken too seriously.
>>119682429 1. We saw one French knight, he gave a speech to the peasant levy and mercenary foot, from horseback. 2, So? They wouldn't have been among the infantry we saw anyway. 3. This is set after even Joan has been burned, they've learned a bit from Agincourt, Crecy and Poiters by now 4. See above, this is late war 5. They do win
>>119683994 >and not wanting to conclude peace on France's terms to stop the war What bullshit, this is during the reign of Henry VI being a pacifistic moron whose weak and ineffectual leadership eventually brings about the War of the Roses, but in France his and Beaufort's policy of trying to bring about peace fails spectacularly as the French realise that with such a king they can get back their land and then some.
>>119684416 Nah, I think they stopped being good after the revolutions and ww1 seeing as they're the only country to revolt against the king, the revolution the general who led them, another king and the revolution after that all in a row.
tl:dr revolting for shits and giggles on a yearly basis is pretty badass.
>>119684416 >>119684589 They still performed pretty well in WW1. >>119684553 Why did all Europe give up on their colonies? Rebellions were being funded both by the USA and by the USSR at the time, and, after ww2, nobody really wanted to fight anymore, so they figured that it wasn't worth keeping them.
>>119684744 Not to mention, the Europeans were putting a lot of money into them, building infrastructure and stuff like that. >>119685116 The first republic is the coolest French era. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HFF9gnlY3c
>>119685226 >there will never be an animated series about the Thirty Years' War >there will never be an animated series about the Great Northern War >there will never be an animated series about the Reconquista
>>119685559 >There will never be an animated series about the Gallic Wars >There will never be an animated series about the Liberators War. >There will never be an animated series about the Third Serviles War and the Social Wars.
>>119682301 I know, right. What they fuck were they thinking making this piece of shit, it's like they never read a history book. I mean I'm almost certain the French and English didn't all speak Japanese. What a load of bullshit this anime is.
>Why did all Europe give up on their colonies? France just lost a war in Vietnam when Algeria entered the equation, and colonial splendor isn't quite so alluring when there are kebabs blowing shit up and having gun battles in the streets of Paris.
>>119684729 Probably not--cavalry was still very useful and practical until the lines solidified, so until the battle of the marne ended and both sides dug in, the cavalry most likely still played major roles, after which they probably just got rid of the horses and served as infantry thereafter.
>>119687952 What the fuck? Since the preview came out everyone been jizzing over how historically accurate it is since the peasants are barefoot and the arrows bounce off the armor and everyone is using blunt force, and now people are saying it's the most historically inaccurate thing ever?
I'm not a history buff so I don't know who to believe now.
>>119688781 It's almost as if different people with varying levels of knowledge (real and perceived) of late medieval warfare and combat might have varying degrees of satisfaction with the show's depiction.
>>119688844 Only one episode's come out so far, it's a little early to figure out just yet.
>>119682332 Most witches in the middle ages were men, so there's that. Think less Buffy type and more modern African witchdoctor. You know, the kind that chop up albinos for rituals. To cite a much later popular example, seven of the accused witches put to death at the Salem Witch Trials were middle-aged men.
The whole modern witches-as-medicine-women idea was created by amateur anthropologist and folklorist, Margaret Alice Murray, in 1917. Her idea's were capitalized on by Gerald Gardner, founder of Wicca in the 1940's. And that's how people now think witches were female pagan healers persecuted by a heavy-handed church, instead of creepy neck-beard nut-jobs selling curses.
>>119684187 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nicopolis >French knights yet again lose a battle by being impetuous idiots. Fun fact: The French only won the 100 years war because in the first 50 years they managed to kill enough of their nobility to learn actual tactics.
>>119689968 >Popes going around waging war with everyone >foreign princes going and coming as they please >merc armies fighting one another like sports matches >Arab pirates raiding regularly >Venetians jewing everyone Medieval Italy was fucking crazy
>>119690817 Dogma upset people because it was a disrespectful of Catholicism. Making a movie about the Avignon Papacy would be fine as long as it wasn't some secularist attack on the Church, which knowing Hollywood, it probably would be.
>>119682301 at least it looks nice and doesn't have retarded outfits everywhere. also its about a magical girl in the middle ages, so I would think that is the biggest historical inaccuracy right there
The army's attempt at torturing and using atrocities to tame the population turned the native population against them as well as those in metropole when all of it leaked. Didn't help that the military tried to coup the 4th Republic.
>>119690583 There's been a lot of times where there were two popes. There's even been a period where there were three popes. Then, people decided that fuck, if they had to deny the influence of the pope, they might as well just go ahead and secede from the Catholic church.
Actually capitalism is the entire point for colonies as a means to regulate the balance of trade. India as an example, the British were able to harvest raw materials for their textile mills at bottom barrel prices then reimport the finished goods back to India at higher mark by the use of trade barriers against foreign competitors.
>>119691486 Gunka would be fun, I wonder if we'll see more naval warfare seeing how the Holbeck are occupying the sea. >>119691642 That was after they lost/close to losing though. The Venice in that war seem to be having the advantage and they just jumped over to the other faction.
>>119682429 >french knights not on horses You do realize that the invention of pikes has rendered horseback fighting useless, right? Even the cavalry charge of the 19th century can easily be annihilated by basic bayonets, let alone giant spears.
>>119689636 It makes sense to not want to kill all of your baby-makers. But in the eyes of the inquisition anyone could worship satan and perform dark rituals, and men were seen as more capable in everything anyways including the occult
>>119691702 Maybe, I didn't wanna spoil myself with raws but judging from the latest chapter Rudolf is gonna try to pull a fast one and force a ceasefire so it might have to be pushed back for awhile. Then again Rudolf hasn't exactly pulled shit off keikaku doori ever since the flash back so I don't know.
>>119691486 >But Altair is pretty much an alternate universe take on the events given how either China or Japan invented guns. The chinks got as far as portable firearms, so moving to guns isn't too big a stretch. It's just Europe learned to make them much, much better.
Gunka's also pretty good, the two've always went together in my mind.
>>119692015 Yes. They won everything on the mainland except for a few cities, which they got later. >>119692032 By ww2, it was pretty much a relic of the past, even though they were used a bit. Horses were used mostly for transport at the time. >>119692038 It doesn't matter, they still won. By your logic, the USSR lost ww2 as well since they lost tens of millions of people. >>119692104 To be fair, cavalry did contribute a bit to fighting in ww2, but only just a bit. >>119692111 You're still wrong. You said it "rendered horseback fighting useless", which is blatantly wrong since they were still useful from the middle-age to the 19th century.
>>119692161 No, they did in Altair. However, it was a small kingdom within China or perhaps it was Japan that did. Either way, the greater whole of Cinali aka China in Altair took that kingdom down in some civil war or some shit and burned the technology away instead of stealing it for themselves.
It's one thing for chinks to burn books about ideologies and what not, but military technologies? Yeah right.
>>119692104 >Cavalry has had no combat purpose since WW1. You have no idea what you're talking about.
German, French and Belgian cavalry played a major role in the opening actions of World War I, and cavalry was extremely viable (and used extensively) by the Russians, Austrians and Germans on the eastern front. During the Polish-bolshevik war cavalry also played a pivotal role. >And by WW2 they served no purpose at all. Soviet cavalry played a major role in the Russian theatre, and Polish cavalry with horsedrawn AT guns were quite successful in the early actions of the war.
>>119692221 >You're still wrong. You said it "rendered horseback fighting useless" Yes, it was an exaggeration but my point is that, after the pikes were perfected, the purpose of the cavalry was pushed back into scouting, flanking, and transport. Never in the main field again
Literraly every knights dismounted whenever they enter the battlefield.
>>119692384 >Kingdom's most powerful woman is queen of the mountain people >Altair's most powerful warrior is a duchess of a mountain fiefdom >Ravages most competent female, the MC's wife, has a family name that literally means mountain
Is there some clever reference I'm missing out on or is this a string of coincidence?
>>119692399 >>119692450 Which...unfortunately is easier said than done. It takes only a single pear to nuetralize a knight and its mount. It was so difficult in fact that the first cavalry charge that actually worked in its attempt to flank the artillery was recorded in history as also the last. I cannot remember the name of that battle though, sorry
>>119691943 >force a ceasefire That's a shame, well I hope we get to see the Hobeck attempting to storm a well fortified and entrenched beach atleast once, the machine gun against the elite cavalry make me want to see more one sided killing.
>>119692452 >Since WW1, meaning after. The Polish-bolshevik war was in 1920, anon.
>They saw plenty of use during it initially, but warfare as a whole changed throughout the course of the war. Yes, and Canadian cavalry still charged at the end of the hundred day's offensive.
>And horsedrawn carts isn't cavalry, anon. Again, you still have no idea what you're talking about. Cavalry. With sabers and rifles. The Soviets used them well into the war for breakthroughs and intercepting supply lines. Again, they sustained huge losses, but that could be said for the Soviet Union as a whole.
>>119692348 Both hussars and dragoons were very useful up into the 19th century especially during the napoleonic war. It's just that they had to be used in conjuction with artillery/canon and infantry support to break up and destroy infantry formations.
>>119691702 For WWI, sure. WWII was something else, as the Kingdom of Italy shifted to the Allies' side when they outed Mussolini. Venice didn't jump over to other faction though, they got threatened to get the League of Cambrai on their ass by the pope because they weren't okay with the intrigues surrounding the way the pope, the Spaniards and the Holy Roman Empire wanted to split the conquered territories in 1513.
>Two months later, at the Battle of Lepanto, the united Christian fleet destroyed the Ottoman fleet, but was unable to take advantage of this victory. The Ottomans quickly rebuilt their naval forces, and Venice was forced to negotiate a separate peace, ceding Cyprus to the Ottomans and paying a tribute of 300,000 ducats.
>>119691926 The war was mainly in Northern Italia, but England got into the fray to get some more clay in Northern France, so the King of France told the King of Scotland to attack England to distract the English.
>>119692613 Hey that's just my gut feeling, maybe the fort siege will go through first. Still my opinion is that Rudolf wouldn't let Holbeck go full retard. If Captain Nielson was considered an elite, then I'd hate to see what the infantry under the normal commanders would do. Maybe they don't even carry guns and just charge with axes?
Holbeck's just crazy period. Why the fuck would you pillage and killing people in the territory that you are trying to take back anyways?
>>119692668 Their usage was still coming from nations that were relatively under equipped. They were used by the soviets because they couldn't logistically support motorized transports, not because they were an effective method of combat.
There's a reason every major western military had phased them out completely.
>>119692907 >Their usage was still coming from nations that were relatively under equipped. >There's a reason every major western military had phased them out completely. You are aware every single major nation, regardless of equipment, had organic cavalry at the outset of the war, and some of them (Germany and the USSR) still used them at the end of the war? Germany was hardly "under equipped" and they continued to use cavalry as late as 1945. The Soviets, who by 1944, WERE capable of making as many tanks as they damn well pleased, still actively used cavalry. They were still an effective method of combat.
>>119693140 The country that beat them (Germany) and one of the nations that won it all (Soviet Union), also still used organic cavalry until the end of the war. Point is the "under equipped" part is pure bullshit.
>>119692811 The Reconquista had quite a bit of intrigue between the Christian states and even within the Muslim invaders (mostly conflict between Berbers and Arabs). There were even times of cooperation between Christian and Muslim leaders to ensure peace.
Spanish territories at that time was actually formed by several kindoms. Portugal was just a county that revolted, succeeded in becoming independent and ended up being successful in war against its neighbors, even against the Spanish.
The age of discoveries was a different time-period altogether (but still somehow linked by certain events). It would also make great fiction fodder.
>>119693083 Oh okay. I was mainly referring to manga that keeps showing very powerful or influential females and having them come from the mountains.
Actually, that old grandmother in A Bride's Story was also a mountain woman, and she was obviously the strongest character in the series by a country mile. No one could fuck with her, even with rifles.
>>119693245 Soviets won through raw numbers,industrial output and resources. They were woefully underequipped by any measure. They are exactly the kind of country described as technologically backwards
>>119693361 Yes they fucking did. They burned through their meagre supplies far, far faster than they could replenish them, they only had supplies in the first place due to incredibly creative accounting (including inventing a separate fucking currency for only the military) to hide the fact that they were bankrupt, and the reason they needed to conquer so much so fast was to capture the supplies that they needed from their enemies
>>119693405 >Soviets won through raw numbers,industrial output and resources. So did the United States,
>They were woefully underequipped by any measure. Were the Soviets making trinkets with their industrial output? Industrial Output is important because that's what is necessary to equip those raw numbers. The Soviets were woefully underequipped from 1941-1942. By 1944-1945 they were just as well-equipped as their other allies.
>>119693565 Most of the time the Inquisition was just correcting people who unknowingly were spreading false doctrine. Some blacksmith who didn't know any better being corrected on some finer theological point.
The witch hunts happened in later times in mostly protestant countries.
>>119693405 >>119693289 >Germans were underequipped because they didn't have oil >France was underequipped because most of their tanks and artillery was outdated and their cavalry division tanks communicated with signal flags >United States was underequipped because >Shermans >muh tank destroyer doctrine >UK needed lend-lease because they WERE underequipped, and their carrier divisions were using outdated planes >Soviets were underequipped because they relied on "sheer industrial power" and because, for a two and a half year period they seriously, seriously needed Lend-lease >Japan was underequipped, as most ships didn't have radar and Japanese tanks were shiiiiiiittttt So who ISN'T underequipped by your count?
>>119693643 They do. It takes so long to get anywhere, trudging through all those dead russians covering the ground, that suddenly you realize you need to turn the fuck around before you get snowed in.
>>119693520 >That bad? Even Gundam Wing never descended to that level!
Not him, and I haven't caught up to the latest episodes but yeah that's the gist of it. The choreography is nice, but that's about it and the MC is pretty amusing because he's basically if a gamer was streaming as they play Gundam Dynasty or something. You know, like if Spider Man except not remotely funny and more whiney.
At least you see tons of shit happening at once on screen though during fights. That's really what matters. No Kung-Fu Gundam doing a jump kick for 5 seconds only for everyone else to stand there in amazement until he smashes the enemy.
>>119693829 >>119693884 >>119693818 I was being sarcastic. My point is that you could argue every nation actually involved in the war was underequipped at some point or another (even in 1945 most Shermans was allotted iirc 1 HVAP shell a month). And at that point the argument that "only underequipped nations used horse cavalry in World War II" becomes pointless.
>>119693759 It would be easy to invade Russia if you set up points that you take each year and fortify them till the next winter ends before moving forward. Everyone just wants to rush at the capital and get stuck.
>>119693923 Or, you guys just aimed the catapult real well to launch the planes AT the u-boats. I mean it's Canada, don't you have like an Eskimo or Inuit detachment or something? They can save whoever pilots the plane anyways. Or summon killer whales.
>>119693923 That's at the start of WWII, by the end there were like 30. There were a few more during WWI as well, thanks to the good old naval crisis, it's just that they were pretty shitty and got stood down.
>>119693987 And the Russians are going to just take this lying down, I assume?
The farther in you are, the more strongpoints you're going to have to build to protect your supply line. And it's fucking Russia, Russians will find a way to sneak and kill your convoys anyway until your whole entrenched army starves to death.
>>119693987 >it's easy to invade Russia if you have perfect logistics+ways of keeping them protected, knowledge of the environment, and equipment designed to survive in a drastic range of temperatures different than what they're used to
Might as well say "it's easy to fly, you just need to have wings"
>>119694061 Of course not but the winter is brutal on them also the reason they always win is because the enemy rushes through the country and the Russians are already entrenched. Clear out a set amount of cities and fortify then when winter ends move forward.
>>119694069 >But that's the reason they were used. Because people didn't have access to motorized alternatives. No, it's not. Russia after 1944 had more than enough access to raw resources and had the industrial power to motorize themselves, given they produced more tanks than anybody in the whole war. They still used cavalry because it was still effective.
>>119694095 it was just a scene to show he wasn't really ready and had never done this before, someone who is basically still a child going to war. and you can't even see that because you're hung up on historical accuracy. you should stick with documentaries and school text books I think
>>119694110 >the reason they always win is because the enemy rushes through the country and the Russians are already entrenched. It's not, the Russians were fighting a desperate retreat to the gates of Moscow. Stalin didn't properly anticipate the German Invasion.
>Clear out a set amount of cities and fortify then when winter ends move forward. And who is going to feed those cities? Russia will burn every farm and uproot every track from here to Vladivostok, and if you rely on supply convoys deep in Russia you're just asking to be cut off and starved to death. Fortifications can't beat hunger.
>>119691754 Southern Europe too. Witchcraft was a capital offence in pre-Christian Rome and Greece. Most pagan societies outside of the pre-Columbian Americas didn't tolerate witchcraft. Only now that we've reinterpreted what witchcraft was into a friendly, neo-pagan, feminist Hollywood version, do we approve of it.
The following links to contemporary cases can give you insight into what actual, historical witchcraft was really like, and why even a lot of pagan societies banned it: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/mar/05/india.theobserver http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/feb/19/ukcrime.hughmuir http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20100321-260014/Bangladeshi-man-beheaded-to-redden-bricks http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/raipur/Witch-doctor-gets-death-penalty-for-beheading-boy/articleshow/19588624.cms http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1203/p07s01-wosc.html/%28page%29/2
>>119694427 >>119694023 It helps that most of the German High Command was just as surprised as the BEF and French when Rommel and Guderian broke through the ardennes as fast as they did. Everybody (French, British, German, Belgian) knew the war would be fought in Belgium (that's the job of the maginot, to allow a proportionally small force to defend most of the border such that the majority of the French Army could fight in Belgium), almost all of them were just surprised exactly where.
>>119694427 >because von mannstein pulled it out of blue The fact that the enemy hasn't thought of it yet doesn't mean I shouldn't be prepared for it. A proper armor protects the entire body, not just the parts that statistics show are usually targeted by the enemy.
(although I heard a funny story about some retarded engineers trying the opposite during WW1)
>>119693757 >Japanese tanks were shiiiiiiittttt were there really such a need for tanks in the pacific theater? I mean, I understand not all the specks of islands they fought on were densely jungled hellholes, and they got airbases to defend/attack/etc, but still. I thought
>>119693654 This was during the beginning of the war. It was why they went through the gold reserves of their occupied countries (Austria/Poland/Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourg/Yugoslavia/Greece/Czechoslavka/Bulgaria/Hungary/Romania/Denmark) like candy. The rearmament program was so cash strapped like >>119693529 said that they were issuing phoney money by that point even before the war (that could only be used for taxes and other government related fees)
>>119693612 The third reich was economically a series of >fuck, we're broke! >what do we do? >lets conquer territory x! >yay resources! lets party! >fuck, we're broke again!
At first they could get away with doing things with peaceful annexations like Austria, Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, and then with forceful annexations like Poland, BeNeLux, France, and the rest.
The currency thing was in part due to the Germans desperately avoiding a repeat of the Wiemar mark hyperinflation. This was done in part by bullshitting and in part by obtaining the gold reserves of the annexed/conquered territories.
>>119694560 The Maginot was meant to include the Ardennes and the Belgian border. But the engineers said Ardennes was low priority since interwar tanks would have had trouble going through dense forest, so that area was not nearly ready. (ironically, the French horse cavalry was there)
You may as well blame Tom Phillips for losing the Prince of Wales because all previous intelligence and knowledge said the Japanese couldn't possibly project air power more than 200 miles.
>>119694560 Wouldn't have helped them much anyway. The French high command was still running on WWI time tables. It would take them 48 hours just to figure out what was happening, and 1 week for a proper counter-offensive. That put them on a huge back seat against the Wehrmacht, who could plan, organize, and execute a new attack in under 24 hr. It's how the Nazis did so well in the early war, when the still had a bunch of panzer Is (AKA a tractor with machine guns bolted on)
>>119694937 The highest Hitler's popularity was, during polls that were controlled by the government and quite literally had armed Nazis in the booths watching you vote, was around 43%, and he lost almost every non-rigged election, I wouldn't quite say people believed in him.
>>119694424 Maybe so, but this one addresses the question from both an economic and historical point of view, explaining the basis, history and evolution of the theory and providing empirical evidence to refute it. Plus, it is easily understandable so that one might be enough.
>>119695080 if you read the personal diaries of any german around before 1945, basically no one thought winning was possible. germany still being around at the end of it all was what anyone could hope for
>>119695133 I read through "Soldiers", and they were talking about him quite clearly as a messiah. Later, when they realized the war wasn't going very well, they put the blame on the people around him who probably lied to Hitler. But they still believed. The V2 was a major point for them, as were the new planes. It was only a few months before the actual end that the last hope actually died.
>>119692771 Wasn't the coup against Mussolini directly related to how the Allies were gaining enough land in Africa that they were able to invade and bombard mainland Italy? Not to mention Mussolini allowing German forces to garrison in Italy. That's doing pretty bad in the war. And thank you for explaining about Venice, the war sound really interesting with its shifting alliances. I'll find some book to read on the subject. >>119692872 Aye, though all the leader of Holbeck we've seen so far are merely tactical level leader, maybe there's more competent generals planning stuff back in Holbeck land.
>>119695280 Why can't a manga stay within one genre? You don't abandon your old atmosphere for so long and excuse it as character building. Berserk and Vagabond have character building arcs, but you can still clearly see the merits you started the story for in the first place.
>>119695280 >implying Askeladd wasn't the most interesting part of the politics >implying Askeladd didn't have the most depth out of all the characters >implying Askeladd didn't experience the most realistic growth during the prologue
Look at this retard. I bet you thought Thors dying and Thorfinn letting himself get punched was manly.
Come back when you get some common sense, or learn to lift the bar for bench press.
>>119694982 I'm not sure if it could've prevented anything, but the Saar Offensive being stopped in its tracks was one of the biggest mistakes from the high command, especially with most of the German armed forces on the Eastern front.
>>119695932 I only used it to point out his stupid reaction image is obviously wrong. But then again, he uses a reaction image for his argument, I can't expect him to be able to articulate original thoughts.
>>119695965 It's questionable. The regular army portion of the French Army was not spectacularly large (the rest consisting of one-year conscripts which the French high command mistrusted profoundly), and France didn't have the bombers to provide air support. The BEF hadn't arrived yet either, so France would effectively be going it alone, fighting a war much of France wasn't sure it wanted to fight.
>>119696075 The reaction image exists purely because so many idiots like you seem to be completely incapable of understanding what character development is that it summarizes the argument so it doesn't have to be typed out every single time. Vinland Saga is the story about Thorfinn growing as a person, not a story about Thorfinn murdering everyone he meets.
You do realize the ending of Vinland Saga culminates in Thorfinn failing to establish peace with the natives and is driven back home right? Or do you think so long as he tried and it wasn't personally his fault that the relations got ruined, his ideology is totally correct? Because that's basically advocating even the losers should get medals.
>>119696253 The series isn't over yet, don't know why you're talking about how it ended. Yes, I realize that's how Thorfinn historically turned out, but in case you haven't realized Vinland Saga is not a 1:1 adaptation of actual history, and for all we know the author could just flat-out abandon history so that Thorfinn's ideology does prove to be right.
>>119696243 Except I never brought up Thorfinn you faggot, I was talking about Askeladd. Are you really so fucking dense you have to turn to technicalities when you obviously know what I'm talking about?
Do you fucking go in every thread where a person points out the best character exits the series and shit post them saying the series is about the MC and not about the best character? That's how nigger you are right now, because you obviously lost the argument and are now deflecting hard.
Well done, at least this wasn't like a year ago when you faggots kept repeating MUH PASSIVISM.
I bet you're one of those shitters who thought Hikaru no Go actually got better when Sai disappeared and think the rest of the world is just wrong.
>>119696393 So you're basically saying the author is allowed to be a giant faggot and the readers should eat that shit up should it happen? The word of god is always correct when it comes to sending a message?
Holy shit I have never seen a bigger tool than you on all of /a/. If this was /v/ I'd call you out on being a fucking shill.
>>119696401 I was assuming that when you said "the series went to shit when Askeladd died" you were complaining about the fact that it went in a very different direction after his death, not the fact that Askeladd was the only character you liked.
>>119696497 I haven't said shit about whether or not the message was correct, just that the message is what the series has been very clearly building up to since day 1 so complaining about it is pretty stupid. It'd be like going in a one piece thread and complaining about 'friendship'.
There is some serious reading comprehension issues at your end man. Nowhere did I say the series isn't still enjoyable, I just pointed out the best character got knocked out while everyone else was still one dimensional.
Farmland barely makes Thorfinn 2D. And very shonen moralfag 2D while we're at it. We basically have to wait until he fails before he gains a bit of depth and realizes the world isn't so simple you can just keep taking punches and the other party will eventually give in.
Don't mistake that as the series not being interesting. I'm looking forward to Merchant Saga.
>>119696594 I wasn't complaining about the message being spammed in the series retard. I was pointing out how YOU are a retard for posting that reaction image because it means you think that build up of the message = quality writing.
>>119691307 The Second Punic War is the one with Hannibal and the Alps crossing.
It's perfectly tuned for anime pacing too. Focus on Hannibal's journey for the first part, with flashbacks to his dad in the First Punic War for action and character building. Most of the big battles are total routs because of tactics and general's personal issues. Jump to Roman politics shit when they're using the Fabian Strategy, dictators, and pissy senators. Then jump down to Carthage for the killing blow. It would be great.
>>119697020 It's named after the Punice that was extremely common in the Himalayas at the time, and Hannibal had a really rough time crossing them to get to Italy. He had to eat people, which is where the whole "hannibal the cannibal" thing comes from. Fortunately once he reached Rome the country fell very quickly
>>119697205 >the country fell very quickly If by "fell" you mean "drove him off the island without siege ever being laid to their capital city, followed him across the sea, defeated him in the field, destroyed his civilization, genocided his people, erased all traces of its existence and salted the earth that it stood upon so that it would never bear life again, then went on to found an empire that would last several hundred years, spread throughout much of europe and become the foundation for the entirety of european civilization to come"
>>119695398 Oh yeah, Italy was doing really bad in the war, to be fair, after they invaded Albania, Libya and Southern France, I don't think they did much. Hell, I even think that the Desert War was the consequence of an Italian fuck-up, much like the Battle of Greece. I don't really think that Mussolini could do anything on his own when faced with an actual opposition. Honestly, I think that Mussolini was the one who was most concerned by how the Allies were gaining land in Africa. The coup itself was motivated by the fact that Mussolini removed people whom he felt were more loyal to the king than to the regime. I think that the Allies had already bombed Rome at least once before Mussolini got dismissed as Prime Minister and arrested, and that event happened about a month before the end of the Campaign of Sicily.
The War of the League of Cambrai might be the most confusing of Great Italian Wars when it comes to shifting alliances, but really, when you look at all of them, all the plots going on at once, and all of that over a period of half a century, and in the end, France didn't get what it came for, that's really interesting.
>>119698118 I've always felt kind of bad for Mussolini. He was the first to make fascism seem like a viable option to the failing democracies for the time, but had the misfortune of being from Italy, a nation that was industrially behind the rest of central and western Europe. Gets snubbed by France and the UK when he tries to deal with Hitler and ends up having to be the junior partner to his junior.
And then when the Germans overshadow him he rushed into a battle he knew Italy wasn't prepared to fight, gets bailed out by Hitler (three different times), a person he disliked, and then gets set up as a puppet regime before abandoned and virtually lynched.
If he'd played his cards a little differently he could have just gotten away with being
>>119697380 >drove him off the island without siege ever being laid to their capital city He never planned to siege Rome, his plan was to burn rape and pillage everything outside the walls of Rome, which he was successful at doing.
>followed him across the sea He was forced to go leave Italy not because he was losing, but because the other Carthaginian generals defending the homeland managed to fuck up at every possible point. If he did not return to defend the capital Rome would have taken it.
>defeated him in the field
He was ordered to fight that battle by the Carthaginian leaders even though he knew it would end in defeat. Later after the war when Carthage was forced to pay reparations to Rome all the city leaders broke out in tears, except for Hannibal who literally laughed at them in a "I told you so" manner for making him fight that battle.
> destroyed his civilization, genocided his people,
After the defeat, several of the shit tier generals and a few nobles that wanted Hannibals wealth Carthage sent word to Rome that Hannibal was raising another army, the Romans came looking for him, he fled and ended up taking poison to prevent capture.
With Carthage's only competent general dead, Rome deiced to go wipe Carthage off the map.
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