Okay, I'm gonna be nice here. I'm assuming you haven't watched much further than ep 5. It's mentioned that only people who don't want to return home can see her and Hanekawas "home" is basically not a home to her. Easy as that.
There's some serious misinformation in this thread. The condition to see Mayoi is to be lost. It has nothing specifically to do with going home. Because Nisio is a bit pretentious it works figuratively as well as literally.
>>120049412 Nadeko in Nadeko Snake wasn't either. Those oddities were inflicted upon her. Shit, even technically Nadeko Medusa Nadeko didn't have an oddity either til right at the end when she deepthroated that talisman.
>>120049498 >It has nothing specifically to do with going home Sure it does. There's a difference between just wandering and being lost. In this case, going home would be a reason why a person is lost. Wandering around isn't being lost, you cannot be lost if you do not have a goal in the first place.
>>120049087 It is correct but not entirely. People who ought to encounter loli ghost in the series must be lost in thought, literally feeling lost or like most of fags here have stated, pretending to be lost. An odditiy in Monogatari is not projected solely by its name. The main point is always the phenomenon that triggers each of the oddities.
>The Lost Cow only appears to those who don't want to go home and it leads them astray. you are correct here for one.
>because people themselves are manifest of oddities, they can see loli ghost. nope
>>120049619 Because Nisio is pretentious you can be "lost" by not knowing how to proceed in your life. For example, Araragi meets her when he's unsure if he should tell his sisters about his powers. He's "lost" because he has no idea which to do.
>>120049954 >So humans can kick other humans through meter-thick concrete? That scene is hyperbole. Karen is still a human. The hornet that is possessing her doesn't bestowed inhuman strength in her. Stop being this stupid, anon.
>>120049802 It's symbolism. Every time Araragi sees Mayoi he is literally lost. So the casual viewer thinks it's literal when it's actually figurative. He could just say it's about being figuratively lost but instead he makes you think about it. Hence the pretension. He's adding depth where there actually isn't any.
>>120050185 It's pretentious to make something appear more intelligent than it is. All that's happening when he has a long conversation with Mayoi while walking around town in Nise can be summarized as this: Mayoi gives Araragi advice on if he should tell his family about his powers. But it APPEARS to be so much more than that. In actuality there is no depth to that scene whatsoever but it sure looks like there is.
>>120050439 I think there's important context to that. You can have actual depth which is a wonderful thing. For example, Araragi's character makes you think about why he acts the way he does. Specifically, his past of being basically worthless helps explain a lot of his self-sacrifice. He wanted to die for Kiss-Shot because he recognized her as simply a vastly superior existence. You can follow that logic to a lot of the times he takes punches for the girls. Basically, he has a massive inferiority complex which you dont see because he plays it off with bravado and perversion.
On the other hand you have fake depth which is where you just add symbolism and metaphors to confuse the viewers. Once they see the symbol or the metaphor, there is absolutely NOTHING to think about or discuss.
If Zaregoto ever got an anime series, I am genuinely afraid how people will fathom the whole depth thing. ITT most anon couldn't fathom Nisio's symbolism for things, here I have a thought that Kubishime Romanticist will fuck casualfags brains once for all.
>>120052063 >being distracted awkward translations most probably, since most of them were translated by faggots who starve for attentions.
>Is the symbolism easier to perceive in the novels perhaps? not really. You need your brain cells to be working just fine for you to get all the superficial and foreshadowy contexts shove by Nisio in his book. Don't misunderstand me, the writing itself is not any sort of intellectual literature. Nisio just a smart writer that do not spoonfed his readers with superficial stuff along the ride. In Shaft's defense, they presented the symbolism using all the characters' monologues, especially Araragi's. They are not deep, they are just hidden in layers of words.
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