>>120469310 Not so much entry level, but for me, it was the first one I got really really stoked about. I remember checking out all the volumes from the library when I was 16 because I thought it was so cool, and then waiting for the scans for new chapters. It was my first follow the scans series.
There's no manga like Berserk and it's the biggest failing of the whole medium imo. It's one of a kind in terms of it's scope and drama in the first few arcs. It's a shame that moe shit will often have five different series for the same idea and Berserk stands on it's own.
Berserk is far too based to be considered anything like other manga. A manga is what it is, but I feel like saying it isn't one. It's too good.
Yes, but like plenty of other 'entry-level' material, it's not bad. It's entry-level because it's so popular that its influence is pervasive, and its popular because it has enough quality to achieve a widespread appeal.
We tend to use a phrase like 'entry-level' as though it's a criticism because there's so many things in which being entry-level is seriously the only thing going for it.
>>120469525 This post is a great example of why being entry level is a bad thing, because faggots like this read it and think that because it's half decent, they now have an expert grasp over the breadth of an entire medium and can comment on all the thousands of things they've never read, because int he whole 10 manga they've read to completion they haven't found one they liked as much as their entry level favourite.
>>120469899 Guts being raped was something that came back to punctuate his character and change his decisions later on. Like when he broke out in tears, or acts homophobic or, you know... Doesn't want to get close to anyone intimately.
The Caska rape scene is literally what sets the story in motion.
This whole thread was born in the 90s. But I prove my point in my last post, those are more realistic reactions to what rape does than most manga characters have to real combat.
As for the other stuff, do you even manga? A lot of it is just to make you feel Guts' rage. It's the same as say a bad guy attacking mooks or villagers in a shounen, just has more impact. As for realism... Well... Rape occurs in war.
Vinland Saga's rape seemed more lolrandom in some ways because it's not like Thorfinn is building up to get revenge on those people. (even if it worked in making me angry at them.)
>>120470372 Yeah, it's just the other stuff felt more appropriate for the situation. The child abuse and murder happened where you'd expect child abuse and murder would be. The rape happened during the middle of large scale fantasy battles, which just seemed a bit awkward
I guess I'm white knighting Berserk a lot because I wish there really were more anime/manga like it. I like a lot of games stories (sotc, DaS) and wish there was anime like them and not K-On, but eh beggars and choosers.
>>120469310 Well, yeah, in the sense that it doesn't really need much in the way of a crash course beyond your usual fantasy stuff the same way something like a "it's a story with magic and giant robots, but I also hope you're familiar with Japanese high schools and their social dynamics" kind of anime would be.
>>120470372 >Vinland Saga's rape seemed more lolrandom in some ways because it's not like Thorfinn is building up to get revenge on those people It was partly to show his complete lack of empathy back during his revenge phase, and partly obligatory because they were vikings.
>>120470093 Demons? No. Trolls, yes. You see a Berserk thread and it's all about the rape, but then you read it and Guts and Casca are the only named rape victims, with other scenarios being few and far inbetween.
>hurr durr Casca enjoyed it more than Guts
Also a point of discussion at this time of the year, but wise magical negro is a caring, considerate individual, while Griffith wouldn't dare reward the woman who chose Guts over him.
They're demons and trolls who do fucked up shit. Miura just shows a lot of it and it's there to make you uncomfortable rather than to titillate.
He pretty much beats you over the head with how fucked up the Berserk world is which is why that even with Guts' RPG party, I'm still really fucking worried that something tragic might happen to them all.
>>120472251 That's what you get for being a normalfag. >20 years of plot lapped up in just a few minutes That's actually the reason I've never read past the Eclipse, I don't want to read everything too fast
>>120472407 The original Eclipse's impact would be lessened if something bad happened to Guts as his party, but yeah, the Berserk world really is fucked up even with the tone lightening up over time. That's why I think that Casca, in her state, was right to retreat into her mind and escape it all. For all we know, she might not know that Guts is still alive.
>>120472601 Yeah, the women in that arc were raped for no good reason other than to show how trolls reproduce. Enoch Village was probably still fucked even after Guts and the others saved them due to that, but fortunately we haven't gotten any rape or sex since.
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