2ch, Futaba, Twitter, Niconico, nearly all anime-related communities are now engulfed by rage of fire, mostly directed to Diomedia and Tanaka
What do you think they should have done to prevent the situation like this? Let's share your ideas that could have improved the anime
>2ch, Futaba, Twitter, Niconico, nearly all anime-related communities are now engulfed by rage of fire
They're not though.
They were fucking mad as anything about episode 3 last week, that's for sure.
They are, faggot. Just go read some comments and see the ratio of pros and cons. They were mad about Kisaragi last week and today it's all about anime
Well, if you consider them more of disappointment than rage, I can give you that
Why is Fubuki so fucking worthless?
Enjoyed the Shimakaze service this episode though.
It's more confusion than anything else. Calling it a "rage of fire" is more than a little hyperbolic.
They killed off a girl in dumb fashion in episode 3 and everyone was rightfully mad about it. Episode 4 was actually a fun episode (for once) but some people are annoyed that it wasn't 23 minutes of melodrama and girls crying.
It was impossible from the beginning for the anime to please everyone. They should have just picked a route and stuck with it. If the rest of the episodes are like episode four though then I have no complaints.
>What do you think they should have done to prevent the situation like this?
Not killing off the characters for cheap melodrama, thats full fucking retarded and the worst source of drama in anything.
Thats like they decided to turn Cinderella girls into a murder mystery and have all the idols all die one by one in freak accidents. If you want to go full trainwreck, have them imply the most popular girl was raped and watch the sales come crashing down like a meteor.
Its only ep3 so maybe they'll learn from all the backlash everywhere and fix it but its not likely.
>but some people are annoyed that it wasn't 23 minutes of melodrama and girls crying.
I'm annoyed that they hamfisted some shitty drama in the first place, and then made one of the most jarring tonal shifts I can remember. I wish they had never killed Kisaragi in the first place, but since they did it they could at least follow through. I'd prefer it more if every episode had just been like the fun bits of this one and they hadn't tried taking this franchise so seriously.
>The Kancolle anime has the chance to do so
My biggest concern
Anime takes a huge proportion in a franchises when it comes into being. Its success or failure always affects others-yes, even its source material- and people have seen this in so many other franchises. This is one of the reasons why Zun never allows a Touhou animation. Let's just hope the failure isn't big enough to bring down the entire Kancolle with it
If it was going to kill the fanbase, we'd have already seen the signs.
If you want to see a show that effectively killed the fanbase by episode four, look at Mekaku City Actors.
>If you want to go full trainwreck, have them imply the most popular girl was raped and watch the sales come crashing down like a meteor.
No, a full trainwreck requires you to hire Mari Okada and give her absolute control on the ship's wheel.
But mai waifu isn't dead. She'll come back for sure. Y-You'll see!
Then they should have never done episode 3 and just kept sticking onto SoL, The whole problem is inconsistency and absolute lack of the master plan. Not having a concrete overarching plot is fine. Not having a consistent genre and premise is bad. Really bad
Wow, calm down man.
I search by myself then. Thanks anyway.
She's a starter and on the startscreen.
>psycho piss S2
>implying it isnt a bigger trainwreck than wixoss
They should get CG/GC team+fukuda+mariokada and get the AZ staff to animate it.
Would be an epic masterpiece of epic proportion.
here have this, that other guy is a kuso
They should have given the show to dogakobo or something instead of Diomedea.
Have them do cute sol stuff like the 4koma and watch it sell tons with everyone happy.
Audiences were presented with visual and psychological rape which instantly killed off the entire franchise.
In a sense it suffered way more than BRS, the latter went into a temporary hibernation before getting treated with shock therapy.
The anime effectively lured the fanbase in with promises of a faithful adaptation and then stabbed it in a dark alleyway with the realities of a songwriter penning an anime script and SHAFT just not giving a fuck.
The smart thing to do with a franchise as nonsensical and dependent on fan interpretations as this would be to make the anime very experimental and episodic. Each episode could focus on a different setting, mood, and characters; rather than trying to tie it all into one mess of a plot. That way fans might still enjoy the rest if one fucks up, and you don't run the risk of ruining it by establishing something as official. I think even Touhou could make a great anime if handled like that.
If they'd hamfistedly sunk someone at the end of this episode like they did the last I would have dropped the show.
I like grimdark, but not this particular brand. Kancolle works best as a Neptunia/Milky Homles/Leviathan sort of game adaptation.
Mate, if they want someone to sink they'd throw every single death flag in your face so much that they could literally just write "______ IS GOING TO SINK FAGS" across the screen.
Sorry, anon. She was diagnosed with terminal dame dame this episode.
Another bait thread. I guess it's time go to sleep
i gave him nothing kuso-sama
It was carefree because this was a healing episode. They're not going to have deaths in two consecutive episodes especially not with no death flags. Wait for next week though, suffering incoming.
Shaft's Negima!? was a bit like this, if I remember correctly. It was brilliant. All the fans could watch it like 'well, it's just another fanfiction made by Shaft, why bother?'
Neptunia might have been the only successful game adaptation I know.
It wasnt best seller tier but like 5 different games were announced after it.
Eschatology was really good and really fun too.
Maybe...but if they followed the historical timeline...
Seeing abyss Kongou ships gives me an erection...would love to see this
>Kisaragi comes back as Abyss
>mutter something about 'don't forget Kisaragi'
>Kongou goes 'Who? Whatever kongo dess' and blow her into bits with a salvo
Is more likely to happen, she's dead Jim move on to another waifu already.
This thread is shit on arrival.
I'll take a spare boat and relax at the port until a new one is laid out.
>The new submarine is "not an I-class"
>One of the new ships is a carrier who "followed in the lineage of Hiryuu"
So, the CV is probably Amagi.
Will the submarine be a foreign class? Apart from Maruyu, did the Japanese have non I-Class submarines?
How asspained will the grimdark fags be when the next episode is Kaga bullying Zuikaku the entire time?
It's a fucking masterpiece of comedy.
Is Hiei curry gonna show up in the anime?
The Persona 3 movies are quite nice as well
Also UFOtable's upcoming God Eater adaptation, dunno why but I'm so hyped for it even though I've already played the entirety of the games right up to GE2.
It seems so blindingly sensible though. Looking at fan-made content for a franchise like this, so much of it is just taking the characters and putting them into various self-contained situations for the purposes of being fun/sexy/cool/whatever. Why WOULDN'T you want to echo that in spinoff media?
Why must we be so entrenched in ideas of everything needing a clear continuity, linear narrative, shitty twists, everything crammed into an authoritative vision? It might make the characters slightly more 'real' for max waifuism but is that even worth it?
The episode doesnt lie.
This episode was the best episode of the 4 so far.
Yes you can blame the writing but what can you do when you are shoe horn into writing up a destroyer with low self esteem constantly fucking up?
I believe OP is a lying piece of shit, most likely a secondary who tries to stir drama. No, whatever the other sites may say, they cannot be trusted or have credibility since they're most likely trolls or shitposters alike. Kancolle Doorblog or some KC-related sites are far more accurate since they play the game. As a primary myself and speaking in behalf of players, this episode was satisfying in terms of depicting Kongou's nature, and Mutsuki was able to cope herself from Kisaragi's loss by not shoehorning the show furthe with more unnecessary melodrama.
Should we make a new thread or something?
you give it time nerd, we're on episode 4 and you're already drawing conclusions. For all we know Fubuki might end up living up to her name as a special type destroyer or being a moeblob.
Oh don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you. I would probably rewatch any episode with carrier antics or Houshou a million times since I love those characters so much. It's just that I don't expect Kadokawa to make any smart decisions.
How could you not want to see Kongou as an abyss ship? I'd love to see how her sisters deal with such a thing
To be honest though. I dunno why people are getting all bent out of shape about the killing off of what's her face...I forgot her name sadly ;-;
Anywho this ep was fun filled and had some healing elements to it. Better than a full episode of sorrow and stuff.
Reminder that this episode was done by mostly just 3 VAs.
Being a retarded fanboy is is equally bad as just trying to bash something to be edgy.
>speaking in behalf of players
Don't. Seriously. There are a number of original fans who like the show, and a number of people who dislike it.
Just give it time goy, quit your bitching and enjoy the kanmusu.
Complaining now just makes you look like a faggot honestly.
There's a good chance she'll end up getting her kai 2 and be the super special destroyer that saves the fleet, which is going to further piss off everyone who picked a different starter and all the people who find her bland and uninteresting. These kinds of protagonists are common in anime and rarely well done.
except an anime that fits that description has already been made (and with a simple yet interesting plot)
I dunno, it just seems like they didn't hand the show to people who actually like or is devoted to the game. Usually with a franchise this big it's better to work with people who are also part of the fandom to produce quality work.
Hell, when AKB48 wanted to make an anime they got Kawamori and Okada, who they knew were long-time hardcore fans of them, and the show turned out to be the only Okada show with no cringe-inducing, instead a smooth flowing drama.
>they cannot be trusted or have credibility since they're most likely trolls or shitposters alike
So is this how you treat the biggest four websites for otaku in Japan? They have far more 'actual' players than whatever blog or some shit you name so deperately to pretend being 'primary'
>which is going to further piss off everyone who picked a different starter
Fubuki has her Kai ni in the game.
All of the other starters will eventually get theirs, anyone who gets angry at seeing an actual Kai ni in the show is just some filthy fucking secondary.
The Abyssal did nothing wrong
Why is this unjustified and criminal genocide allowed to be perpetuated against them?
The director is apparently a Zuikakufag, so there is at least one fan present.
Yeah they just gave the thing to a random group of people and said "go nuts"
They should have given it to the SW team since Fumikane is a fan of Kancolle and has even done art for it.
Get other fans of the series on board too and you'll have a great show.
It isn't. There has been countless people arguing that Kancolle is yuri, and it isn't the Kaga/Akagi shitposter. The Kaga/Akagi shitposter just happens to do it so much he's the center of attention, but I can assure you that since two years ago I've seen numerous /u/ arguments killing threads.
The anime designs never even managed to get Fubuki's eye color right, there's no reason to trust them over the originals.
Fubuki will befriend Wo and then everone will get along.
The only real problem I have is with the shitty CGI. The rest of it actually turned out better than I expected. Maybe they can find a new studio to produce something better in the future
assuming there will be.
Didn't that Shaft anime killed that Vocaloid spinoff LN series?
I knew something was gonna fuck up when Diomedia was chosen to make Kancolle instead of a more experienced studio that is known for doing these types of girl plus warfare anime.
Don't you mean Haruna will befriend Wo?
Is being a defensive fan bad? No, fuck off.
> original fans who like the show, and a number of people who dislike it.
Who are these original fans you speak of? The playerbase ARE original fans, and this show is catered to players alone. No, those who are secondaries who don't know this franchise shouldn't be watching this, we're done with this already.
>whatever blog or some shit you name so deperately to pretend being 'primary'
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Fuck off.
You mean a convenient reset at the end where one girl becomes God and lets almost everyone have a 2nd chance?
Maybe you wouldn't be such a dipshit poster, if you said you wanted Kancolle to go Katanagatari, instead.
Kongou's the true legendary sempai, not Fatass
>Is being a defensive fan bad?
Yes. It's pathetic.
>original fans you speak of?
Answered it yourself. Unless you're so desperate to think all original players like the show.
>No, those who are secondaries who don't know this franchise shouldn't be watching this
It was super fun in BF 1942 to fly your plane parallel to Zuikaku's deck to smash everyone camping for a plane respawn. Before inevitably losing control and kamikazing right into the Turkey's deck.
I really want to fuck this submarine.
>You obviously don't know what you're talking about
You obviously don't now what you don't know, smart fanboy. I have a new for your. Anime is a big money shit and is not produced to satisfy only a handful number of dedicated fans in some blog, wiki, or whatever shit you go to pretend like an expert. What matters is a bigger pool of opinion, like you can find on those websites way bigger and has more potential BUYERS-this is important, this is why your opinion doesn't matter anyway- and those places are generally negative and are growing fed up with the shit Diomedia has been serving for a month.
So what do you like about it?
Don't you have something else to say other than pathetic? Can't you be any more original?
>Unless you're so desperate to think all original players like the show.
It's not something like or disliking it, Like I said their opinions are more credible than secondaries or shitposters.
I will post this every day until you resupply Akagi
It's funny because it's the only thing players do in these types of games.
Many times I felt like I was the only one in the entire server who actually landed my planes.
>LEAST SLUTTIEST SUB
She's the 2nd sluttiest right behind Iku
I wish US teams aren't so bad in vs. Japanese maps in War Thunder. It is kind of ridiculous for them to suck when they even have shit like Bearcats (muh WW2 1946 fanfiction plane) and Tigercats (muh super climb plane).
Meanwhile Shinden players have to live with turds.
Why not? To what
endare you asking this question?
I always make it a priority to bomb the airports/carrier decks whenever I get a plane because you know you'll get automatic kills from people waiting to get into planes.
It's even more fun when you sneak into the enemy base with a jeep and start running them over.
That's sounds rather perverted. Are you sure you want to do that?
But there are no boats in the anime yet.
At this point, with the low budget CG and low production value with fucking diomedea, they could care less about the BD selling. As long as they get negative publicity with the merchandise still flying off the shelf they already recoup all their initial cost.
Everyone likes a good ass.
Another reason why E U G E N got the most lewd doujins last Comiket
She's the second lewdest sub, and only because she's so pure that she's ridiculously fuckable.
>pick class engineer
>start on flight deck of carrier
>steal zero or corsair asap
>fly high over to enemy carrier
>drop down into water next to carrier
>climb up and hide in the ship parts where no one will ever check because they're all going to be on the flight deck waiting for planes
>sit next to an ammo crate and drop and explode dynamite until you hear the horns blaring and see the water rising
I miss BF1942.
Zuikaku's a legendary senpai
The slut ranking goes something like
Iku >> Shioi > Hachi > Goya > Imuya = Maruyu
The ones on the right tend to get mostly cute fanart and the ones on the left have a great amount of ero
Merch, print material, and the game itself will make do. I don't see lots of otaku ditching the entire franchise over the anime.
I prefer to just get into their tank and camp in front of the spawn point.
Sorry, I call it how I see it. You're butthurt over the opinions of others and literally putting on your primary fedora cap and acting like some pretentious faggot. It's hilariously pathetic.
The reaction here by players have been mixed. That would be clearly evident if you've been here since the start. In terms of the people who have disliked the anime (Since you seem to be so delusioned as to believe no original players can dislike this), people have disliked the Fubuki SoL at base, the CGI, the cheesy in-game dialogues, the awkward implementation of game mechanics in to the game, the yuri catering, the lackluster typical plot of new girl working hard and making friends. Certain tripfags and namefags have expressed their dislike of the show, and they've been in Kancolle threads forever.
The reaction is mixed. Again, stop speaking for the entire playerbase. I've played the game since November of 2013 and I find the show mediocre.
During old naval battles, those constantly appearing clouds of black smoke in the sky, am I correct to assume that they are something like sky grenades?
Like a boat fires sky grenades into the air and it explodes, creating a small cloud of black smoke, and the force releases shrapnel everywhere in the sky, in the hopes of it tearing through some plane's wing?
Is there a name for this weapon or black cloud or is it really like a sky grenade?
My favorite game of all time now that I think about it
I didn't know Akiduki was the IJN destroyer in that game until recently
>Certain tripfags and namefags have expressed their dislike of the show, and they've been in Kancolle threads forever
RIP in piece Stalker.
>Certain tripfags and namefags have expressed their dislike of the show, and they've been in Kancolle threads forever.
Even STALKER left because of the quality of the threads but people insist in saying everything is great and whoever disagrees is a shitposter
Battlefield 1942: Forgotten Hope
This is by far the greatest WW2 FPS game ever produced in this world.
I like to imagine that Kaga and Zuikaku are shitposting at each other
>Mfw my entire ww2 naval history is basically learnt from kantai, and i still know more than the average joe.
Yes, but the point of the game's recreation of historical battles has mostly been to let the ships who fought there redeem themselves.
It is not the death of Kisaragi that got people mad.
Go rewatch that episode again and tell me it isn't anything but garbage? The dialog is downright cringe worthy.
Now contrast it with ep4, the difference is night and day. It is actually fun, even Kongou hugging Fubuki telling her everything is daijobu felt natural.
Whoever that was in charged of ep3 and greenlited thinking it was ok need to be shot.
Did someone say tacticool?
That's not the only problem. The BF series to being with has been utter shit ever after 1942, which is why I've stopped playing. Call me back when they're back to WW2 with a decent game system
they are self-destroying High Explosive Fragmentation Tracer (HEFT) shells, commonly known as flak
Don't forget poor Melon feeling like shit because Kisaragi sank.
Melon did nothing wrong
In other worlds, it was historically accurate.
>The American defenders fired at the invasion fleet with their six 5"/51 caliber coastal artillery guns, which had been removed from scrapped battleships, sinking Hayate. The cruiser Yubari was also hit eleven times. Kisaragi was sailing away from the engagement when it came under air attack by four F4F Wildcat fighter planes from Wake armed with 100-pound bombs. One Wildcat, piloted by Henry "Hammering Hank" Elrod, dropped his bombs on Kisaragi's stern, which was packed with depth charges. This caused the ship to explode and sink with all hands about 30 miles (48 km) southwest of Wake Island
Please keep it kancolle
Please read what I said again, faggot.
If you're a primary, then you have worthwhile opinion whether you hate it or like it.
If you're a secondary who just drove by and know nothing about this franchise, your opinion is discarded from the start.
Primaries are master race. That's it.
I haven't played the game, hell. i didn't know anything about this before i marathoned it today.
If your character 'sinks' in the game, is it lost forever?.. Also, is there a 'training' like mode, and if so, do your other girls suffer negative bonuses if a unit is lost in battle due to mourning? That'd be cool.
Not so bad.
>custom camo on guns
I hated that shit.
>Call me back when they're back to WW2 with a decent game system
What happened to 1943 again?
>giant night scope on an unsuppressed AKS-74U