What do you think had happened between Yano and Hiraoka in the past?
>tfw no qt3.14 to ride shotgun in your subaru
what is the point of living?
Both tried to live the dream, had sex to celebrate as a one night stand. Soon after their spiral into misery began and they have ever since hate their lives and even the dream jobs they oh so wanted.
Long story short, yes, they fucked.
I dont know but I know this would bring more suffering to Yano
Ah, I can't believe I didn't realize sooner. I love the detail put into this show.
Here it comes, anon.
Based Yano has all the tricks in the trade.
Is that supposed to be the new episode director? I'll get ready my stacks of research papers.
Can he really get the job done? Poor guy probably hasn't eaten for days.
>implying he won't screw up
>implying Based Tarou won't be there to help him
>implying he won't share his knowledge with Tarou
>implying Tarou won't become a director at the end of the show
This anon gets it.
More research material.
The hunted has become the hunter.
What the hell kind of perspective and/or anatomy failure am I looking at here.
So Ema is now just comic relief?
Well it's better than suffering bait and "oh yeah she's totally part of the main cast, of course we didn't forgot about her".
Do you prefer to work;
>in a company where you go home at 5pm but work is merely a daily routine and co-workers mean nothing to you and your life?
>a company where you have no idea when you can go home but the there work becomes a part of your soul and co-workers your lifetime friends?
Is there a webm of this?
Honestly I'd chose option A. I don't want to live my job, and the idea of a job where I;'d be forced to work very closely and form personal relationship with people I may not even like at all is offputting. I don't like the idea that 'friendship' is a one-sided charity where you put up with someone you don't like just for the sake of harmony or getting work done, and I hate jobs both where I have to babysit mouthbreathers that can't do their goddamn jobs if I'm not hovering over them injecting common sense into their brainstem constantly, and where some asshat hovers over my trying to micromanage me because he thinks he knows my job better than I do.
soulless 9-5's are nice because they give you some goddamn space. I can feed my soul when I get home.
Holy shit I forgot completly what blue shirt's name was. Are she and Zuka even main characters anymore? The only time we really see them is when they fail. I guess the writers don't want to discuss Cgi and voice acting politics due to how dangerous such a topic can be to otaku. don't wanna mess up the sells now.
FOOLS. How can none of you know their names are Mika and Midori? are they that bad with character arcs of their own and long enough screen time for the audience to care about them ? At this point I'm surprised you guys remember Shizuka's name.
Mika the 3D girl, Midori the college girl, Shizuka the red headed waiter These were suppose to be main characters but only Aoi and Ema really filled that role with Ema mostly only being around still due to that door mouse girl
Why is this building still around and mostly untouched after all these years? And why does the President still have the key? It seems it's been decades since the bankruptcy. You'd think that the building would have been redeveloped (or at least cleaned out) already.
I mean, I know it's a show, but Shirobako tries to be pretty realistic so this seems like a big plot hole/a cheap plot hack.
So pace neighborhood is confirmed to be Patlabor?
And that framed up chick is definitely GiTS amirite?
I still dont get how they went from patlabor -> space neighborhood
Rocky->Chucky seems more obvious.
Also, you'd be surprised in Japan, especially Tokyo, there are ALOT of "abandoned" buildings like that. It's actually a issue they are trying to fix. It's really hard to do construction in the tight urban areas so even tearing it down is a major effort (cost) no one wants to do. So they just let the building stand and use it as storage.
>These were suppose to be main characters
Tarou probably has had more screen time and lines than the 3 of them combined. I wonder how their seiyuu feel about winning a main role only for it to end up like this. Probably worse than having your character
turn mute for half the series.
The focus it's how they developt their series and the problems they have doing their work, external and internal problems.
It has moe but also lots of reference to other kinds of series like mecha and kodomo. Also, an important theme it's the difference between how anime was made before and how is made now.
If you just want a comedy about people doing anime, this is not your serie. If you want to watch people doing anime and all the shit they go through to do it, then you should watch Shiro Bako.
There is nothing wrong with moe.
Would you prefer some ugly ass characters instead?
You wouldn't need to think at all if you had made smart investments and ended up rich enough to live the NEET life.
There is an ongoing manga and a novel that was released last month.
>it's better than suffering bait
I respectfully disagree.
Based CEO revealing the old school studio was also really nice.
I've watched a few older anime, and man, its amazing how they were able to have quality animation back in those days considering what they had to work with.
In term of relevancy.
3D girl take the cake of being totally useless and written out of the plot completely. Maybe they are saving her for when they make a gekijou of Shirobako where Aoi and friends form their own company to make their own movie.
This is a Shirobako thread. There is no "Zuka" character here. Please stay on-topic.
there are some reverse ntr doujin coming up in C88
Always bet on fatalpulse.
That said would you prefer faceless men or Yano or fatass kantoku?
What a salty bastard.
She will subconsciously beg for Tarou's cock and then be brutally destroyed by him against her will over a period of weeks, Stockholming herself into enjoying it and falling in love with him, eventually bearing him many strong sons.
That's what she thinks, but the whole office is actually his harem and they only keep him around because they wouldn't be able to get any work done if they couldn't satisfy their cravings for his massive cock.
Can't blame him, he found out his dream job was thankless and miserable and pretty much giving yourself a shitty lifestyle in the process. Essentially kids growing up to find out the real world ain't as pretty as you imagined.
>Tarou disappears at the end of last episode
>Just when I was starting to like him
>"Don't worry anon, he probably went off to solve the crisis"
>No, he really just ran off
>Goes back to offering stupid, useless remarks
>Hiraoka looks like he'll have a redemption subarc
>Tarou will probably stay useless and hated
I feel so betrayed.
Yep, they are that bad. I give zero fucks about either of them. I'm actually proud of PA Works for pushing five moemoe girls being the main characters in all the promotional material, than basically ignore half of them as the series progresses. Anyone who cares about the CG girl just wants to fuck her, let's be real here.
Damn, that was great episode. I'm sad the other girls aren't getting screentime, but we had a lot of great stuff and throwbacks going on here.
>HS leaving "senpai" in the subs
Whoever Crunchy has doing this show needs to work on more stuff.
>Fixing his issue
I don't believe they even want to redeem Tarou.
Tarou may be a fuck-up, but he's a likable fuck-up who certainly has characters.
Props to PA Works for also introducing a girl with massive breasts in that first episode, then only back to her when it's time to be professional. And for not focusing on gothloli-sama with nonstop fanservice. And for not throwing in any stupid love squares. This might be their best show yet next to Uchouten.
If only the shit with Ema would stop now, she was cool before but ever since her autistic friend got introduced she's just as bad.
Fan: "Hiraoka is Yano's ex-boyfriend?!"
Tsutomu Mizushima, Shirobako director: "Yano and Hiraoka have not dated and are not dating."
She's pure, now we can all move on with our lives.
Bare minimum. Yano might keep him in line since she seems to like Musani and all.
She hasn't said a word since she's been introduced. Except for her animating capabilities, she's borderline retarded.
Considering Tarou's constant fear of Yano, I was hoping for some funny interaction between the two, but it looks like it's mostly Andou putting Tarou in his place now. They didn't even interact.
He's probably like someone who cares just enough to not drop out, so he'll probably get just as much shit done as he needs to.
It's challenging Hanasaku as my favorite.
>If only the shit with Ema would stop now
It's like a few minutes total anyway, and it's nice that she's so autistic it's almost not cute.
She's a background character. Her main job is just to be there.
CR is usually very literal (but not scanlation ESL shit-tier literal) translations, and I download them because I'm learning moon and they easily make the best learning aid, so I don't have much of a bases of comparison to other groups but I could sword that most other groups were more localized than HS, save the few nippon pride groups. I think they leave in honorifics, but don't titles like that usually get localized?
Actually, now that I think about it I'm pretty sure they left Kantoku as Kantoku in denki-dai.
I don't care either way, but given that "Hurr she takes a million dicks an hour just like every 3D girl ever no exceptions because that's totally normal!"fags are the worst kind of cancer, I'm glad to see you ass blasted.
Ema is great. She is actually taking care of the newbie with her shitty pay. Show work enjoyment is sometimes more important than shekels.
CR doesn't follow those kind of policies like fansub groups, it's up to the editor in turn to decide to leave honorifics on or not (among other vocabulary), except when it's a translation provided by the likes of Sentai or Aniplex.
>ask a question
>get an answer
How offensive, anime was a mistake, the industry is burning, remove otaku
They're adults, and I really don't care if they dated or not, but clearly they have an idea for the story and how the character relation web plays out. People who are getting pissy that they can't ship characters or slut-ify them with their head canon can fuck right off and go back to talking about how great the fatalpulse doujin are going to be.
You need to post on /a/ less.
Calm Down, this isn't 2chan or JP you don't have to try as hard here.
>It produces sales for character goods and BDs
So does any number of cheap tricks I don't care about.
>Keep pretending to be neutral on it, though.
I'm generally neutral to things that don't cater to me, yes.
Oh SHIT he might come back
>So does any number of cheap tricks I don't care about.
Your opinion holds no weight on the subject. You claimed it wasn't productive, yet we all know how sales and market work with a large sub-set of the consumer base who buys this stuff. Your claim that his tweet wasn't productive was wrong.
>I'm generally neutral to things that don't cater to me, yes.
You seem fairly bent out of shape to me.
It's a constraint that anime are specifically constructed to work around, so if anyone competent is directing, it won't make any single anime worse - it simply restricts the space that people get to work in.
>You claimed it wasn't productive
I suppose you could say otaku rage is productive in that it causes people to buy goods in the first place, but that's not what we were talking about.
>You seem fairly bent out of shape to me.
I'm not the one running around calling everyone mad.
please dont start this again. one thread was more than enough.
>go on to complain about purityfags
Did you even read my post anon?
>we were mad that Yano was a slut
>now we're mad that she's not a slut
We're hard to please, apparently.
On one hand, pure.
On the other hand her dad doesn't have much time left so she better get to to making him a grandpa before it's too late. She doesn't have time to be pure.
>You will never be teasing her sexually as she's on the phone with Miyamori handling some production issue
>Her slight moans and heavy breathing will never cause Miyamori to think she sounds a bit sick and recommend rest and/or donuts
>She will never reach orgasm and accidentally slip out of the hyper-polite speech patter she learned to use from 3 years working customer service
>Her excitement will never cause her to forget a key instruction leading to a Tarou-grade crisis, delaying production and forcing them to use a clip show
>Your healthy and active sex life with your waifu will never inadvertently ruin an anime series for everyone else
Gonna commit sudoku now
>it simply restricts the space that people get to work in.
Except it really doesn't, as "Oh, by the way she's fucked this many guys" doesn't really add a lot to the plot. This isn't an HBO show, doing that kind of shit isn't going to trick people into thinking it's mature or realistic.
>But all adults have sex
Do you actually know any Japanese adults in the work force? Because all my Japanese friends are of that age or older. One of them recently got her first boyfriend, and she's 29 years old. A couple others are in their late 20's and have never been in a relationship. It really isn't normal for them to sleep around or date coworkers.
>I suppose you could say otaku rage is productive in that it causes people to buy goods in the first place
Otaku obsession drives a huge portion of the market.
>but that's not what we were talking about.
But that's exactly what we're talking about.
>I'm not the one running around calling everyone mad.
No, you're the one who's clearly made about "typical otaku/anime pandering purityshit" as you've actually convinced yourself that not having characters have sex with other characters inherently ties an authors hands in telling a story.
>Except it really doesn't, as "Oh, by the way she's fucked this many guys" doesn't really add a lot to the plot.
Hanasaku Iroha would have to rework it's plot considerably if Ohana's mom wasn't a massive slut.
>But that's exactly what we're talking about.
It solves a problem it created itself.
>No, you're the one who's clearly made about "typical otaku/anime pandering purityshit"
I don't recall using those words.
>s you've actually convinced yourself that not having characters have sex with other characters inherently ties an authors hands in telling a story.
It literally does.
If the young animator you mean is him, no he becomes Ookura.
Were people pissed that Yano possibly wasn't pure or that she could've dated Hiraoka since he's an unlikable character?
If it's the former fuck off
If it's the latter I guess I can understand
I don't want Oi-chan to become a kurismisu-keiki but I wouldn't want her to stoop to Tarou. She needs NabeP filling her with his love
They mean this old guy.
>Your healthy and active sex life with your waifu
>using "waifu" in reference to a healthy and active sex life
>Hanasaku Iroha would have to rework it's plot considerably if Ohana's mom wasn't a massive slut.
Sorry, when we talk about good writers and directors I couldn't give a shit about what Okada writes.
>It solves a problem it created itself.
What the hell are you talking about? The benefit is sales, and the otaku aren't buying the goods. If they didn't pander to those otaku they wouldn't suddenly come into a different market share. There is no problem seeing as the otaku aren't keeping them away from another set of potential customers.
>I don't recall using those words.
Yeah, because it's not clearly coming through your posts at all.
>It literally does.
It literally doesn't, unless you think that the only way to tell a story is to have it be about how much of a slut a particular character is. The only characters this matters with are the ones marketed for character goods and on BD covers, and these types of characters never benefit from that type of background in terms of characterization.
Hiraoka is a battle veteran with a thousand yard stare. Yano stays by his side (in a non-romantic, friendly capacity) because she remembers the energetic new face he used to be.
Next episode we'll get a story about how he lived through three years of the Siege of Leningrad, and how it reduced him to the husk that he is today.
>implying they won't get married after 3rd aerial girls
I found it odd he seems spaced-out the next day. It took him awhile to notice Yano.
>I couldn't give a shit about what Okada writes.
>There is no problem seeing as the otaku aren't keeping them away from another set of potential customers.
Buying goods is productive. Holding studios hostage with their considerable buying power may be integrally tied to that but that in and of itself is not productive in any way.
>Yeah, because it's not clearly coming through your posts at all.
Well if you want to run my entire half of the argument for me it would save me some time. Make sure to pull out all the stops when you're manufacturing your caricature.
>It literally doesn't, unless you think that the only way to tell a story is to have it be about how much of a slut a particular character is.
It is literally a constraint placed on writers. Just because you can make a lifetime's worth of wonderful paintings without using the color purple doesn't mean it's not a constraint.
Things like the bitch in your picture are why anime is going to hell in a hand basket. it's like some sort of virus looking to wipe out any and all men from animated shows besides bland self inserts and loser pervert best friends who never get any. Can you really accept that? Can you really forgive that? In 5 or 10 years that all anime is gonna be !
>Holding studios hostage with their considerable buying power may be integrally tied to that but that in and of itself is not productive in any way.
You can bitch and moan and twist words all you want, but they are giving money to these studios and funding anime. That is productive. There are no two ways around it, you just want to bitch about otaku despite the fact that you don't do anything to support the studios.
>Make sure to pull out all the stops when you're manufacturing your caricature.
You just dropped the "The otaku who are literally funding anime are actually evil, even though no one else will" line. That speaks volumes more than anything I can say about you.
>It is literally a constraint placed on writers. Just because you can make a lifetime's worth of wonderful paintings without using the color purple doesn't mean it's not a constraint.
>You can't design a cute character who sells on appeal and put them into a series that has fucking nothing to do with sex and make them sleep around
>This is a constraint
It's a show about anime production. Sleeping with a coworker has nothing to do with anime production. An apt analogy for this "constraint" would be telling an artist to paint a lifetimes worth of paintings without using a feather duster instead of a paintbrush. If has fucking nothing to do with the actual work.
They buy things they like and fund production of more things. If that isn't holding them hostage, then what is?
>Things like the bitch in your picture are why anime is going to hell in a hand basket
Man I hope this is sarcasm.
Was it just me or was Diesel's engines especially large in this scene? I know she's the bustiest of the main Bako's but she was pornstar tier at this point.
Genshiken - Director
Hikari to Mizu no Daphne - Director
Kujibiki Unbalance OAV - Director
Potemayo - Director
Taisho Yakyu Musume - Director
Mayoi Neko Overrun! - Director
>Suffering enthusiast still at large
Is this the face of a curious university student?
>That is productive.
The guy who originally complained said that the narrative restrictions they impose aren't productive. You've countered by saying that buying goods is productive. As related as these may be, they are not the same thing.
>You just dropped the "The otaku who are literally funding anime are actually evil, even though no one else will" line. That speaks volumes more than anything I can say about you.
It's really cool how all my most kakkoi lines are being written by someone else.
>An apt analogy for this "constraint" would be telling an artist to paint a lifetimes worth of paintings without using a feather duster instead of a paintbrush.
A feather duster is not a tool anybody has ever considered to have use as an painter's tool, regardless of genre.
Pretty high I say
Zuka still is selling her ass as a beer girl.
3D girl is still doing wheel at her new job.
Ema is still a lowbie animator with shit pay.
Aoi and Diesel-chan are the only girls actually doing shit at their job and moving up the rat race.
Going take at least 5-10years for any of them to found Donut Animations.
don't say things you will regret
What do these threads have against ponytails, man.
if they do this zuka has to get a role before the end. unless they show her still jobless in 5 years.
Red girl will probably get her first job in one of the last two episodes.
3D girl, well - in a job like that you eat shit for years before you get to do anything fun. Her life will go on.
Life isn't fair.
Do you think people can choose their job?
Do you think people that end up being a janitor that do it for free, burger flipper and cart pusher actually enjoy their job and want to do it?
>Do you think people can choose their job?
Of course people can.
>Do you think people that end up being a janitor that do it for free, burger flipper and cart pusher actually enjoy their job and want to do it?
Some people settle with the shitty jobs.
As someone working a job just to eat, watching Shirobako is a gutpunch in a way that all the high school shows about dreams and goals don't quite manage. Somehow it hits closer to home... or something like that?
I'm still young! I can still go to Japan and become an animator (where I'll work shit hours for shit wages, be ostracized as an eternal outsider, get fired after I'm not up to snuff, get deported, then cry myself to sleep in a drunken stupor cradling a worthless resume in a back alley of my hometown).
A lots of people end up like Hiraoka.
As a newbie that just landed a job, you think it is going to be all bubbles and sparkles then the office politics kick in, shitty boss, long working hours, all the routine work and shitty work start to pile up, you end up regressing back to NEET and just doing it for the cash.
...they dated and it didn't work out? Obviously?
Awww yeah bako fatigue is a miracle of the universe
>Yes, that was when I realized it... that what I wanted wasn't to work in anime. All those years I had been chasing my dream, but when I finally got there, I finally managed to see what it was that I had been searching for all along.
>I didn't come here because I wanted to work in anime.
>I came here because I wanted to live in an anime.
And suddenly, his tears began to flow, first drop by drop, then all at once, and the regulars at the seedy izakaya started whispering and pointing at the strange gaijin making a huge embarrassment of himself as he bawled into his cups.
>this show is good because the characters are adults, but because those adults haven't had sex it's actually shit
Man, normalfags are weird.
in the beginning, if you're not good at what you like to do, you can't choose your job.
you grit your teeth and work at a call center or flip burgers while you try to get your shit together on what you really want to do for a living. this means studying in what little free time you have.
and then, when you finally get good enough at what you love to do, you get to choose your job. interviews won't even be an awkward spaghetti-spilling thing because you love that kind of work so much you are able to talk about it for hours to someone who is willing to listen.
of course, long working hours and fatigue will get to you, but that really depends on the nature of what you love.
me, I'm a sound designer. this is the best job I've ever had in my entire life.
I read through it and I still don't know what you're talking about. I'm guessing you're just some bitter purefag.
I'm updating my suggestion to suicide.
do it faggot
People were complaining last week too about the thread qualities on air days. It's just an endless cycle of high traffic shitposting -> medium traffic decent discussion -> low traffic circlejerking that accompanies any above average popularity show.
So any bakobros also listening to the OST here?
Nothing special but some songs are comfy as fuck.
My dark-skinned comrade. Nice to know there's someone out there that doesn't default to ATH-M50's.
>Aoi will be a prominent director
>Ema will be a senior animator or character designer
>3DCG-chan will still be at the same company, still being praised for her tire-modeling skills
>Diesel-chan will be a breakthrough novelist and screenwriter whose works are being adapted into an anime in which she is thoroughly involved
>after years of working as a JAV actress, Zuka will finally get a voice acting role in a manga-adaptation hentai anime, only to be universally panned and forced to either do more porn or beg on the streets
Sounds about right. Can't wait.
>people are allowed to have relationships
Not muh pure moe girls, though. Because values.
It's unfortunate they let people persist in these kinds of retrograde beliefs without trying to enlighten them, but what can you do?
I think it's more likely that Chucky and Poppy are brother and sister, or something, but we all just assumed they were a couple because hey, funny animal, female counterpart, that's usually how it works.
I had 2 rewind two mins on this, since I didn't expect traditional Japenese hippies to look like our hippies. What a mindfuck.