What are cliches/tropes that you absolutely love?
To this day I STILL love "normal guy gets stuck in a fantasy world" stories.
People getting stuck in a game
The mango in the OP picture is pretty good.
I also recently started this
There's this one series called Ore ga Heroine o Tasukesugite Sekai ga Little Mokushiroku!? where the MC hops through worlds and uses the items of one world to solve the problems of another.
Just wish it had more chapters translated
>Love gender benders
>Batoto classifies everything with cross dressing/traps as gender bender
FOR FUCKS SAKE
JUST MAKE A FUCKING CROSS DRESSING/TRAP TAG AND KEEP THIS SHIT OUT OF MY FUCKING GENDER BENDING.
I dunno that premise was pretty recent
I mean reincarnation as a whole has been around since Tezuka, but one where their memories intact I've never seen any save for the LNs that seem to be stepping the same ground as MT.
Battle Shounen cliches tend to have some narrative and entertainment sense to them so I can appreciate them despite them being overused.
Shoujo cliches I never understand but I'm not the demographic so I can't really knock them
Harem cliches are stupid, and most of them goes against the whole point of the fantasy.
SoLs don't have cliches because they don't do anything. SoLs are as much of a cliche as zero is a quantity.
Old generation team joins the fight and helps the new generation in the final battle
epic deathstares. even though some people think it's 'edgy' (whatever that means) it makes the character look badass and im okay with that.
>What are cliches/tropes that you absolutely love?
Edgy can be good, even if /a/ hates it Pic related is full on edge, but I think he's cool as fuck
>That one borderline-rapist lesbian character who has good taste
>hot-blooded speeches to the antagonist that the MC will protect his nakama
>OPMC's that goes balls to the wall in his own OPness
Ofcourse, but a character dressed in black with skulls who talks about torturing people all the time would be seen as edgy by most of /a/
Mane, just read the first few chaps, and it ain't good.
The art's shit, execution shit, char design is shit, char design IS SHIT
And mane, the girls ain't BWAKA enough.
What is the point of reading a manga with girls not BWAKA enough?
Just read the ln, mane. This is how I got into LN
I still love harem.
Fite me, Faggot!
Missing out the greatest series. You will never know the glory of mushoku tensei, skeleton overlords, a rabbit MC who is so pure that you heart is cleansed, BWAKA girls, the social GAMMA still in pursuit for 'something real', the antics of the pioneers of Elder tale, and many more.
I feel for you, man, even if you brought that upon yourself.
Can't quite say I care. You could say that about normal books too. Taking away the comic aspect away from it defeats the purpose of why I like manga in the first place. I prefer to see the events going on, not read about them.
Rage, especially when the character is normally really level-headed.
I get what you mean, but that also means you're not visualizing.
When you read shit, the scenes flows into your head, at that point it's like animation constantly produced by you, directed by you.
For example, when some one say "Rudy stabbed the knight with the sword", the manga will, well, just stabbed with the sword.
If you visualize however, you can see Rudy dodging the blade with paper thin accuracy, using his blade to push the armored knight back and jamming the blade into a gap, slicing the knight from inside out.
I find that it's not even reading anymore, and it's easy to visualize 2D character instead of complicated 3Ds.
If you can't do it, tough luck, buddy. hope you enjoy your manga.
Harem cliches are kind of strange because harems have to kind of blue ball the protagonist a bit in order for it to work for their audience. If the main character sleeps around it comes across as unfaithful to each girl and he becomes more of a playboy stereotype. If you're not careful you end up coming across as School Days protagonist, perhaps with the same result.
Harem lives and dies off it's blue balls and how it explains why the male lead can't get his dick wet is down to the gimmick of each show. It can be disinterest, stupidity, indecisiveness, gynophobia or even age of consent.
Simply put, in a harem show the protagonist can't win until the end (or even at all), they live off the feeling of being the center of attention for all those girls. It sort of falls apart for the audience when the protagonist fucks around.
Which isn't to say I'm defending harem; it's a very silly genre, but it's sort of refined itself on it's audience I suppose.
>but that also means you're not visualizing.
>When you read shit, the scenes flows into your head, at that point it's like animation constantly produced by you, directed by you.
But I don't CARE about stuff like that. I'd rather watch someone else's rendition of it.
Its the same thing as why I don't like most WRPGs. I don't want to make up my own story. I want to see an actual story with my own eyes.
Magical girls being gay for each other.
And thats why I prefer it when the story has its own routes for each girl so everyone is satisfied. Either that or they stop blueballing the protag/reader and make it an ACTUAL harem where the MC is going out with everyone and the girls are ok with it.
Well, not defending harem myself, but it should theoretically work as a subplot.
You see, what you all said, which is quite true, usually occurs when the plot is only about RomCom.
If the plot does not involve Harem as a main point of the story, it will allow the writer to slow the pace of harem, so that it will not come out as blatant blueballing.
For example, Jitsu Wa is a romcom harem (3 girls as of now) but then again, it is not even about the romance, but girls being BWAKAs.
It is the comedic aspect that pulls in the audience, not the romance.
Another example would be Yahari. (2 girls, and 1 potential love interest). What makes Yahari SO good is the extensive character development of our very own batman, 8man.
The plot involves 8man dealing with bitches and stupid ikemens and his sufferings because of his way of doing things.
Therefore, Harem is not a bad thing; just trying to milk out harem as a genre is a very bad move, writing wise.
I-I just wanted people to like the media that deserves more love...
To be honest, the only reason I read LNs is to get ahead of where other media might have stopped. Using Log Horizon as a example, I watched the first series then started to read ahead into the LNs.
Light Novels either don't translate too well, or just aren't well written. I don't mind it because the main reason I might read a LN is to enjoy the idea they present. With Tate No Yuusha I oddly like it best when the main character is building his own forces and managing land while abusing some of his mechanics to get ahead. There are some pretty fun interactions going around and it's kind of neat in that way, but holy shit the revenge porn the author occasionally throws in is sort of jarring at times.
So I don't know, I think it's important when reading LNs to not have high expectations and understand what you are letting yourself in for. Most are unapologetic power fantasies, but some of them have pretty fun ideas despite of it.
no he didn't he just said "source material is better"
which is usually what mangafags (like me) say
But the MC is going to look bad regardless. Even though they won't think he used trickery now he looks like he got several women that he really made no effort to have. He'll still look like a douche either way but they can at least make him so his obtainment of harem wouldn't be put into question.
Doesn't even have to be a Casanova, simply being a skilled and likable person like Hayate or Negi will usually do.
Well, yes. It's obvious some are good and some are bad.
It is also quite hard to find TLs since they too don't want to read a wall of text.
However, in the end of the day, I think that LN is a gold mine that people should be more aware about, instead of stubbornly sticking to a single medium.
It's about being the more, the merrier.
Happy endings. I don't watch this shit to get horribly depressed. I'm okay with bad or even terrible things happening through the events, but I enjoy the ending to have things working out.
That's fine too. Just as long as some reconciliation or awakening or final progress is made to achieve the bittersweet. If they just fucking die an inch from their goal or they lose their self at the end or some other complete self destruction occurs, I just feel like ass.
My own problem with shieldbro at least around the with the WN after turtle arc is that it feels like the 3 heroes will contribute so much to the problem it painful to read. It like he could write a proper villain so he used the same group of people every time. It like fuck team rocket all over again