>>121836013 There's too many retarded plot pulls in this novel for it to be mystery/detective type, where there's actually enough clues provided during the novel for you to work out the 'culprit' of each arc. Zaregoto has just as much brick shitting as Hakomari and does it much better in this regard.
I dislike how Maria in the last few novels is basically just a useless side characters, especially after how much she was hyped up in the first few novels for being all powerful. Yes she's obviously extremely flawed but in the last few novels she was portrayed as being far too stupid and useless than she actually should be.
>>121836252 I think you would love it. Since you seem to have similar taste as me, I'd rank Zaregoto my #1 LN easily, with Hakomari 2nd and I quite like Gekkou too. Although the bad thing is you are going to have trouble finding LN's of this caliber that have been translated, and everything else you read is going to seem very medicore in comparison.
>>121836141 >Zaregoto has just as much brick shitting as Hakomari and does it much better in this regard. I call bullshit. Both pull an equal amount of ridiculous plot twists, Zaregoto just likes to put everything upside down and make the answer so obvious that you're tricked into discarding the possibility beforehand.
>>121836469 Well I won't deny it has ridiculous plot twists too, but the execution is much better. In Hakomari you tend to turn your brain off and don't even try to work it out anymore, while Zaregoto still throws enough bones to you throughout for you to keep thinking, then fucks you at the end because there's no way you reached that conclusion.
>>121836257 She's forced into situations where her ideals prevent her from actually doing anything. The whole point is that her own flaws fuck her over, which is why she always fails at attaining her true goals. She is doomed to flail uselessly because she forced herself into a cage that she refuses to escape by herself.
Her uselessness in these cases is what facilitates Kazuki's need to take action and makes him stop relying on her. Maria's weakness is what makes Kazuki realize his position as her Knight.
>>121836626 Unable to do anything and being absolutely stupid is pretty far. She's meant to be extremely intelligent and has lived for a very long time. She basically acted like she was 15 years old and had no clue what the fuck was going on the entire time.
>>121836731 She wasn't even around for the entirety of Volumes 3-4, so she indeed didn't know anything. And after that it's made clear that the shock from Kazuki's betrayal made her desperate. > She's meant to be extremely intelligent and has lived for a very long time. She simply relived the same day for a long time. She doesn't have the same life experience a 85 year old person has.
Why are Japanese like writing story with a lot of mind games/clusterfuck plot points? Is it just their nature? I mean, just look at Higurashi, Umineko, HakoMari, Zaregoto, Ace attorney. Some require a lot of over complicated world building like Fateshit, S;G, C;H and Mahouka. Some are not really complicated, but they require a lot of text to explain.
>>121837397 Yeah I read some old books, they really like to go into a lot of details for the scenery and characters internal thoughts, even unnecessary ones like how the doors look is told. Half of a book is details of the scene. But I still like them. Anyway, I have a feeling western book in modern era has been a lot shorter and lack details. I can't really call any of the recent novels in the West overcomplicated.
Is Zaregoto a single story or is it volume-episodic? I wanted to read it some time ago but I don't like to start something that won't get a 100% translation in the end. Also, what happened to the official English releases? Was it cancelled?
>>121836750 I don't think you can really compare the two, twist-wise. Umineko is actually something like a proper detective story on the lowest meta-level. People were actually able to predict Shkannontrice and some other stuff. Zaregoto is impossible to predict accurately unless your name is Nisio, because he just writes whatever crazy shit he wants. It is impossible for someone to strangle themselves to death with a rope without hanging themselves. As soon as you lose consciousness, the pressure would be gone and it would become impossible to finish yourself off.
>>121842337 >It is impossible for someone to strangle themselves to death with a rope without hanging themselves. As soon as you lose consciousness, the pressure would be gone and it would become impossible to finish yourself off. Only if you're using your hands to strangle yourself. The way Ii-chan dismisses Zerozaki's concerns about the possibility of self-strangling, I'm guessing Mikoko just tied a rope around her neck tight enough to block the windpipe and tied the rest of it to the bed while lying down so that she wouldn't need to apply pressure with her own hands.
>>121843600 Nah, Mikage already finished his magical girl LN a back in October(that one was meant to be only two volumes long from the start) and at the same time he said he wanted to take a break from writing after finishing Hakomari, so I doubt he was talking about F-Rank. He also wrote in early January that he was working on Hakomari's epilogue,so I'm pretty sure he's done already.
>>121842970 It's been a while since I read it, but I seem to recall that she couldn't have used the bed to facilitate strangling herself because she wanted it to look like a murder and not a suicide. If she used the bed, then it ruins the effect.
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