Which Cure is the greatest defender of JUSTICE?
Anon why are you the best Pretty Cure?
Can Kirara mama be Estelle? It's French, it means star, it sounds model-like and it's not Stella.
Toei really struck
goldwith her design.
I want to be crushed between Haruharu's glorious thighs
And speaking of dire puns, it's time for the dreaded manzai episode. I am so glad there hasn't been one of these for a while.
...did Doki even have a real-person cameo episode? I remember Hacha was the soccer player.
I swear to fucking god if I hear about this shit one more goddamn time
Do I remember correctly that Suite didn't have one, either?
I think we can all agree that the Heartcatch school festival concert/fashion show was the best real-life cameo in Precure history.
Someone sure woke up on the wrong side of the hug-pillow.
Don't worry, though, Haru Haru can fix your problem.
>unironically disliking manzai episodes
>I think we can all agree that the Heartcatch school festival concert/fashion show was the best real-life cameo in Precure history.
It was so good that I forgot the cameo.
Yes, but singing a cool song is better than the manzai stuff. Other than that, SS had that one guy who I'm not really sure what he was but it was for the fairy hunt episode, and HaCha had the soccer player.
It was the women who sing many of the Precure OP and ED songs.
And this is actually pretty funny. Reika's a good tsukkomi.
I think I may have figured out Cure Peace's pattern. I've been demolishing her for a while now. (Six wins, six draws, only two losses.)
I can see why there were a lot of Sunnyfags. Akane is fun and cute.
Kirara is a good and pure girl.
Do not bully Yayoi!
Whole reason I watch the show.
I like how her tiara is on crooked.
And I've warmed up to her civilian-form smock. It's a little odd, but it does suit her. Plus she wears jeans under it, and I have a soft spot for trousercures.
I think the characters fit the show pretty well. I don't think they'd come off as well if Smile were more "serious" or less episodic.
I wouldn't characterize the Smiles as "interesting." They're pretty fluffy and shallow.
What they are is super cute and fun, and more than a little silly. Which works out because Smile's entire design goal was to be super cute, fun, and silly.
Reminder that only the plebs from /pc/ have shit taste enough to like the osakan monkey.
Reminder that no one else on the western "fanbase" gives a single fuck about her.
Reminder that she's literally Rin 2.0 and the most unpopular Smile by a long shot.
I want to like Nao because her street clothes are great, and I am entirely in favor of having two tomboy Cures in a series, but she really could have used a little something extra to make her seem less redundant.
Well there goes my faith in humanity.
The wonders of having a staff biased for you.
I'll always believe that someone on the staff had Akane as her favorite Smile and that's why she got so much focus and screentime besides being the successor of the literally most unpopular Cure of the franchise. It would explain Nao getting shafted too, whoever had the boner for Akane did it to try to "shift" the unpopularity from his favorite Cure.
Jokes on him though, it didn't work. 3 years after and Nao keeps having a horde of autistic drawfags in Pixiv and Twitter.
You know your favorite Cure is meaningless when she doesn't have those.
The new coloring books should be coming in tomorrow or monday depending if the post actually gets off it's ass
Smile should be Miyuki and Yayoi combo as the kids with Miyuki being the childish older sister and Yayoi taking the mecha fan little brother role.
Meanwhile Reika is the dad with her midlife crisis, Nao as the moe overworked mom and Akane the weird Kansai uncle.
If they were popular they wouldn't be tomboys.
>not fucking amazing
I'll take the chance to say that I'm still mad about no NaoRei episode.
We need to go further.
Can we talk about other magical girls in /pc/?
Them being childhood friends was so obviously just a relic from when they were named Karen and Komachi.
Whoops, didn't mean to quote
Have some more Cure March
Doremi is basicly pre-precure and comes up all the time. I need to finish Dokaan come to think of it but I had to stop after my poor heart couldn't take Naisho
But I want to ask what language to watch Rayearth in. English vs Jap audio can be a real sticking point sometimes, and if anyone knows magical girls it will be /pc/
This lovely cat and her friends seem to be heading out for a swim!
I can't believe I didn't put put this with my suitefamily pics.
Character design by Araki when?
>Tomato singing Ojamajo Carnival
I never knew I wanted this.
I gotcher lovely cats right here, mate.
I never got the whole RPing as canon characters thing. It surprises me a little that I don't, since when I was in high school and college, acting on stage and playing RPGs were both hobbies of mine. But in RPGs the most fun part was always coming up with your own character.
I'll admit that I have occasionally given thought to how one might go about designing a tabletop RPG system that'd be good for Precure games, though.
>I'll admit that I have occasionally given thought to how one might go about designing a tabletop RPG system that'd be good for Precure games, though.
Me too, although like you said, I prefer actually making characters as opposed to playing as canon characters.
I think a /pc/ tabletop where everyone makes up their own cures could be cool.
I've never done any of this online forum roleplay stuff, but from what I understand, fucking terrible OC characters plague the things. So there's your "coming up with your own character" right there.
Stuff like that really turns me on.
I read that more lewdly than it should have been without thinking for a bit what you meant. I thought you meant sexually demolishing for a sec, it was confusing.
Tomato's voice is the best. I really hope she and Megumi Han don't get typecasted into only doing shota roles.
The English audio wasn't TERRIBLE but it had the sort of quality infamous for that time period so I'd steer clear honestly. They did that 'audible intake of breath' thing that early 90's dubs did a lot and it bugged the ever loving piss out of me.
Can a cure be this stupid?
Why would you ever watch dubbed anime? At best the voice acting is slightly worse than the original and at worst they outright change the meaning of sentences for whatever reasons.
I watched an episode of dragonball kai that came on after Precure once.
Assuming it had the voices of the original dbz, I don't understand how anyone could watch that shit undubbed. It was terrible.
I just prefer being able to listen in English, as long as its not outright bad. If the dub breaks certain scenes, ruins dialogue or shits on characterisation then yeah I'd like to avoid it. But if it's just sub-optimal, well, I don't think I can really grasp a better VA performance when I don't understand moon in the first place.
Lots of times I just quickly listen to a few dubbed episode just to hear what it sounds like. Sometimes you get pleasantly surprised with a decent dub when you do that. The new Viz Sailor Moon dub was really good, for example.
I think it'd match Kanade better
I don't really know why but I've never watched Sailor Moon. I think about it and go nah, not really interested right now. Then spend a week marathonning Saint Tail or something
I've still haven't finished Sailor Moon. Unless the last two seasons are significantly better (I heard they are, but I still haven't gotten around to watching them) then I think it's kind of over-rated.
I'll get around to finishing it one day.
I think, I know SM is THE iconic magical girl series and all but I also sorta think that with 20 years of homages and copycats, it'll look generic as shit and probably pretty reigned in with it too. Like how Citizen Kane is a pretty shit movie nowadays.
It's that awkward time when everyone who matters is supposed to be asleep.
>grown up men getting excited and singing a song about putting the boring homework into the trash
Reminds me of Demolition Man. And i also like that song, even more pathetic for me.
i smell severe autism, i want to solo raid it with lewd but im too lazy
The delusion of high schoolers being more "mature" than middle schoolers maybe?
Why cant she be a cure
I want to cum in her forehead
I wonder if she also has 3 eyes under those glasses
>3 eyes under those glasses
Kirara isn't a bitch, she's just busy chasing her dreams.
Good news It seem the bounty system on sad panda works. I got someone who will translated one of my ako/souta doujins. If this pans out then I will post it for everyone.
Yes go for Yes 5 and Gogo next. Splash Star is a lot like FW and MH for the first 12 episodes, so if you jump right into it after watching them it will start to wear you down. Having Yes 5 and Gogo as a buffer is a good idea
>Responding to 11-hour-old posts everyone ignored just to start shit
>the osakan monkey.
too far, anon
I love how fanartists really latch onto a run with some of the silliest/shallowest things about a character, especially at the beginning of a series. Like, if you didn't watch Precure and just happened to stumble across the tag, you could reasonably assume that donuts are a major point of Minami's characterization. Like, she probably has as much donut themed art than any of the Freshes now.
So I am now warping up Suite and I don't get all the Ako hate.
I hope GoPri goes all the way and turns out to be a solid series. The last two have their fans but had problems that are hard to look past.
Of course, I also hope that GoPri is going to turn out great, but it's not giving a strong impression so far. No matter what problems you think the last two had, it's plain that they had much stronger starts than this year.
I must disagree with you. I feel Doki and HaCha blew their load too early. All the cool stuff and well written episodes happened early on, which left us spinning our wheels until the last arc. Granted both had stand out episodes in the middle but they were few and far between.
I feel GoPri is going for slow and steady. Granted we are only 4 episodes in so I could be wrong. However so far none of the episodes have been a dud in my book.
Still with precure you need a least 10 episodes to really get a feel for it so lets just wait and see and hope for the best.
I think we can all at least agree that GoPri's ep3 was the weakest for the four.
I'm going through the series in chronological order myself, I went from Futari wa to Max Heart to Splash Star and now I'm 8 episodes away from finishing Yes 5. I'm going to be completely honest in my opinion even though I know its not going to be a popular one but I wasn't a huge fan of the first two seasons. There was only so much of Honoka and Nagisa interacting with no one else other than the fairies that I could handle and Hikari was a very brief reprieve from the monotony. It just wasn't all that interesting with 2-3 girls having the exact same interactions while fighting the exact same monster for 90 some episodes.
But I would have taken more of that over the train wreck that was Splash Star. I know people here like to say that it gets better after the first 20 episodes but I would disagree. My biggest complaint is the fact that Saki and Mai are LITERALLY carbon copies of Nagisa and Honoka and I just don't understand why they thought that was a good route to take. I only started to somewhat enjoy myself at the point where Shitataare showed up because it seemed to get a little more quirky but the whole Kaoru and Michiru angle drained what little fun remained for me. The final fight was great though.
Yes 5 is the best season I've seen thus far and I do mean that. Its such a relief to have more than three girls interacting, not to mention the fact that they can transform on their own without needing a partner is just a blessing from the gods. My biggest complaint for this season is just how many toys they were trying to pedal and the crater sized holes in the plot but I have greatly enjoyed this ride. All the other seasons up until now have taken me 4+ months to finish but I'm finishing Yes 5 in under two months if that gives you any idea how much I'm enjoying it.
I'm interested to see how you react to the rest of the seasons.
Puff is adorable as fuck.
I really hope we get a Dark Cure plot this time around. The Princess theme is begging for it.
I think I'm retarded. I just noticed that the main 3 switch off on saying that little monologue in the GoPri OP. Holy fuck.
It's like how it took me half way through Toqger to notice that a different person tripped everytime.
It's possible, but I doubt it. We've been on a steady alternating cycle of recruiting a bad guy one year and having an evil Cure the next year for the past 6 years. This year is a recruit bad guy year.
I hope GoPri doesn't try to shoehorn in a romantic sub plot. While I am all for a bit of romance in precure, toei has shown that they have no idea how to handle it.
>I hope GoPri doesn't try to shoehorn in a romantic sub plot.
>First episode has a meeting with a prince and a girl that wants to be a princess
You keep hoping anon.
They'll do one, certainly. Whether it'll be properly implemented or shoehorned in is yet unknown, but they'll definitely do one.
I wouldn't be so sure of that line, personally. The "harukakanata" wordplay makes me think he'll be an ever-distant ideal.
If I were a betting man, I'd have money on a romantic interest appearing within the school.
You can grow up to be a princess waitress I guess.
So what steps do you think Precure will take to work around Japan's falling population. As it stands now in about 5 years Japanese little girls are going to start to run out. I say Precure should go all in and start working into older age groups.
Now to be clear I am not saying they should start aiming at Big Friends, I think if they go for 8-12 market the would be fine. They would have to step up their writing a bit, but they would also be able to go to darker themes as well.
At the end of the day the landscape is changing and if precure wants to stay in the game for the long haul.
There's nothing a franchise like Cure can do for that. 1st world countries in general have low fertility rate, and Japan's problems are only exacerbated by how closed it is to immigrants and also its society itself (like how there's little protection for pregnant women, so they easily can be fired for staying months out of the work due to childbirth).
It is way easier to rebrand a show already airing than to start a new IP. They did the same for Sentai and Rider and it worked out fine, I don't see why precure would be any different.
Do I still get the birthday greeting?
That could work in the long term but right now I say they will run out of little girls well before that kind of plan shows results.
However the idea of Toei grooming a generation of little girls to be hyper aggressive about dating and baby making sounds pretty cool.
That's not how kids work. When something has the perception of being for little kids, "big kids" avoid it like the plague. You've got it backwards, it's way harder.
I don't know where you're going by bringing up Super Sentai or Kamen Rider, because they still target the same young boys demographic they always have.
Sentai and Rider now have a dual viewership. Since it has been going on for so long it has its core little boy group and a strong big friend group. Toei knows this hence why they will cast old sentai members in the newer series.
I love Haruharu in forms and I think her hair is cute.
She's adorable in human form too, it's just that her cure form is 10/10.
I watched FW and SS two years and at least five series apart, and it still took me half the series to get over how similar Saki and Mai looked to Nagisa and Honoka. Even once I did, their personalities (especially Mai's) were never as engaging as the Max Hearts'. Honoka and Nagisa had some real chemistry, which carried me through the slow and repetitive parts of their show. Saki and Mai didn't quite manage that.
Suite is the new Splash Star
It's got it's moments, for sure, but the writers still haven't quite got the "Precure formula" down and it shows.
While I'm sure the move to larger teams was in large part merchandise-driven, it was also good from a writing perspective; when you're doing a full-year show of mostly self-contained episodes, having more options for character focus episodes really helps liven things up.
Not sure how that happened anyway.
I mean, I loved SS, despite watching everything chronologically. The villains clicked with me, I liked Hikaru and Kaoru, non-overachieving main characters etc. It felt like FW 2.0 more than MH did, and I really appreciated how refined it was compared to the original. I adore SS
not my favorite series though, but I can see why it'd put people off; SS has tons of flaws and the similarity to FW can be extremely jarring.
Suite is one of, if not THE best Precure series taken on its own merits. Great art direction, fun characters, consistent and effective use of the "music" theme, and tons of catservice.
>tons of catservice.
This is the important one.
I never really felt the similarities to be jarring. It only takes a few episodes to see how different Mai and Saki are than Honoka and Nagisa and it was never a problem for me. Also, I'd argue Splash Star has the best pacing out of any of the precure shows.
Suite lovers unite.
It really is. I went into Suite knowing most of the major "spoilers," but as usual, the most delightful part was something that nobody would even think to spoil. It was seriously cat-tastic.
Speaking about birthdays which series I should download for my sister? She likes stuff like Totally Spies and that small horse thing. She kind of liked Smiles so anything will top this. There should be less talking and more action and fun.
I think you've got filename backwards, bait-kun. Art direction and characters as positives? For Suite? I almost want to say "don't make me laugh", but it didn't. It's so off-base I can't even find it funny.
The absolute best rank I could conceivably understand giving Suite is second-worst season. If we're being completely fair, it's probably the very worst.
Michiru and Kaoru are the best part of SS for me and thankfully they are a pretty huge part of the series too. If you didn't like them, you'd probably hate it a lot. I don't think there are real similarities between Nagisa and Honoka and Saki and Mai besides looking kind of similar though. Their personalities are pretty different and they interact differently. I think that's a silly thing to call a weakness really. It's based on a comparison to something else rather than just judging it on its own and I also don't think the comparison really holds true at any sort of real depth.
You have a case with fresh, but after the slick animation of heartcatch wears off you start to see some cracks in it. Yuri and Tsubomi are the only characters that matter, and Heartcatch has one of the worst mid season slowdowns in the franchise. Also keep in mind that Dune is just as bad as Red as far as final villains go, which is highlighted by the fact that either Dark Precure or Sabaku would have been a better final villain. Hell Salamander was even better than Dune.
All in all Heartcatch is a lot of style and some substance. Is it good, yes, however I think people hype it up way too much and overlook a lot of its flaws
HaCha is similarly cute and fun I guess, but really Smile is the best at that fun thing. There's going to be lots of talking in all of them. More than half of each season is an SoL about middle school girls.
People like to say that Suite had a GOAT OST. What they don't realize is just how GOAT it really was. Take the final group transformation.
When Beat joins up and they change the transformation to include her, you are left feeling that it isn't complete. Now we all know that Muse is going to join, but another reason for that feeling has to do with the way humans perceive music.
At the part where their earrings come on there is a rising scale, that cuts out before the last two notes. Even if you don't know about music scales your brain will pick up during that part that something is missing. When Muse joins up later not only do you get to see the full group transformation, which by the way is the best one in the franchise, but that off feeling during the earring part is no longer there. Muse last two notes completes the scale, making the whole thing seem more whole.
Suite and HC are neck-and-neck for me. The only thing keeping me from saying HC is definitively better is that its plot arc doesn't feel as coherent. The Moonlight/Dark Precure business was pretty cool, but it never meshed completely with the rest of the show.
Nearly everything about Suite fit together, and culminated in a (oh HO) pitch-perfect ending that was actually sorta profound.
Don't forget the fact that Suite is one of the few series where each girl has their own character arc. Granted Hibiki and Kanade share theirs. However that is still way better most cure series were at best each girls gets a one or two focus episodes.
For me, it's because anime is a primarily visual medium and I weight the visual aspects of a series pretty heavily. HC did that aspect SO WELL; it's downright gorgeous. I think the characters, soundtrack and other aspects were all pretty good too, but you're right about its flaws. I just think it being absolutely beautiful makes it stand out a lot.
On the flipside, Fresh did that visual stuff so badly for the most part, and yet the rest of the things I'll judge an anime on more than made up for it. Setsuna's arc, the plot pacing with the negative energy storage, the fun, the excellent finale. These were all so good that I forget how bad it looked. Also, the encoding is terrinlbe so I like to think a lot of the fault lies there.
I think Suite is kind of in between these two in terms of strengths and weaknesses. I felt it didn't look as good as HC or handle story as well as Fresh, but that it kind of did everything pretty well. I just liek when things really excel at something more than when they're pretty good at everything I guess.
I'd rank them Fresh > HC > Suiet >>>> all the others
This is stretching the truth pretty far from both ends. No season gives any Cure only "one or two" episodes, and the Suites' "character arcs", if you can call them that, are some of the flattest in the franchise. They don't deserve points just for existing.
The issue I had with Saki and Mai wasn't that they were carbon copies of Nagisa and Honoka. It was that they LOOKED like carbon copies, but weren't more than superficially similar personality-wise. Pic related.
The other issue was that Mai didn't have a very fleshed-out or interesting personality. She was just the quiet girl who liked to draw. There are ways you can make that kind of character memorable and endearing, but it never happened with Mai. She felt like more of a placeholder than an actual character.
You are right they normally get 3 to 4 tops. Also I do think Suite should get props for its character arcs because it is the only one that even tried it in the franchise. Hell in Smile none of the girls really has a character arc.
Heartcatch's action is praised not because there's a lot of it, but because the art style and character designs allowed them to be fairly consistently on-model when they had it.
HaCha does not contain NTR, get a hold of yourself. It's a damn kids' show. Don't believe everything you read on /pc/.
Best Fairy Tones are Dodori and Fari
I think part of my enjoyment of Suite came from how down on it /pc/ was. It took me forever to work my way around to it because of all the negative buzz, and I had low expectations because of that. So when I immediately took a liking to the characters, setting, and production design in general, it was the best kind of surprise.
Plus, the cats!
>Plus, the cats!
I find my enjoyment of a series is always significantly improved when there are cute cats that are main or at least interesting side characters.
Drama? Are you a retard or a troll?
I liked HaCha better when it was about Hime. Leave it to Ranka to drag down another show.
Interestingly I think this is why I enjoyed Splash Star so much. The low expectations from all the people telling me I should skip it and do Yes first helped me enjoy it more. Michiru and Kaoru are still some of my favorite characters and it never bothered me that the mains looked similar since their personalities were different. They just looked like normal girls. You have to remember too that they didn't have funky colored hair back then either. Characters had brown hair or black hair 99% of the time.
Well if it is ok to like Suite now, I would just like to say I really enjoyed a lot of its sub plots. While I do wish they would have explored more with the hinted Ellen/Ouji/Kanade thing. I have to say I found the Ako/Souta subplot to be really cute.
Also I have to say the pay off for this sub plot was pretty awesome.