There are great series and movies for every genre but the one that skips this is horror.
Literally there are no good horror anime and the only one that comes close to the horror genre that is good might be Monster.
There is not a single one that is actually scary.
The only thing horror about that is the horrible animation.
that a medium does not have to be in film to have horror and that there must be an anime out there that is actually scary and if not why because coloring has little to do with it.
plenty of anime have done perfectly fine horror scenes, it just appears that there's not much of a demand for a pure horror anime. sucks since I would watch it if it existed but that's just the way it is
Holy fuck, the part where Okabe gets the text in the supermarket was actually legitimately freaky. The combination of suspense alongside motherfuckin' fear of the unknown was perfect.
but yeah that's really the only spooky anime scene I can think of
He's not wrong though. Straight up horror is usually really shit and relies on stuff like that to scare people. Going off of western films there's only a handful of good/decent ones and the rest are just shitty and unoriginal. As far as I know there aren't many good horror anime but they seem to do thriller/mystery/supernatural type stuff with horror elements pretty well like >>121869878 mentioned
God fuck damn shit cock motherfucking cunt bitch hell. Why did I open that. I can't unsee that. This is freaking me out anon. Fuck you. This is why I don't read horror manga.
If you go in without knowing anything about it, Higurashi is pretty fucking scary the first time you watch it. Specially the first time you see Rena going yan.
As for manga, Fuan no Tane does horror better than most things in any medium.
>Nechronica: The Long, Long Sequel
Give this some time and attention. Nechronica is a DnD-like game where you play as zombie lolis after the apocalypse has already happened. Lots of room for creativity and story shit. Read the guide if you want to know more:
Hopefully, if people catch onto it, which they probably won't because it's "too loli-guro-ish," or whatever. However, if it gets enough of a fanbase, fanart, and other bullshit, it just may lead into a series or even a new era in the horror genera.
Still, it gives me the vibes of something like Corpse Party, except with way, way more potential for stories because that's essentially what it was created to do.
(I hate this site, but...) http://megrim-haruyo.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0
You guys are shitlords you obviously have never heard of Elfen Lied.
>These new generation plebs who confuse fear for horror validating the jumpscare and gore trends of modern horror.
The fuck out my genre with your shit opinions. If you want to be mindlessly scared, go play in traffic.
Yeah, had a friend of mine tell me that. I absolutely love the concept and I'm thinking of doing some character designs based around it. I'm just hoping that it can get around so people at least know about it.
I think I would have loved Higurashi if it didn't reboot the atmosphere every few episodes.
The fanservice driven slice of life episodes were just increasingly awkward after the traumatic reveal in the first story arc.
See, this is what's wrong with people. This is why things like Silent Hill stay pretty niche. Subtle horror where the scares are done right and jump scares/gore are conservatively used are almost always the best.
It's about the fear of something happening, not something happening. And when something does happen, it had better be fucking shocking.
There was a normal-sized thread for it on /tg/ earlier this week. I wanted to bring it up to /a/ because I thought that the concept, the artwork, and the story have some serious potential.
What about Yami Shibai?
It's hit and miss but sometimes delivers some pretty good stories.
>when you're 13 years of age
Let's face it. The vast majority of us got into this shit through some of the corniest anime in history.
Plenty of manga but just a few of them getting animated. I guess no one is really buying them.
I recommend some Satoshi Kon. Perfect Blue, if you're looking for a thriller.
Paranoia Agent if you're up for something weird.
Agreed. It's a shame when good psychological stories get overlooked for noisy gore-fests.
Speak for yourself.
I was immersed in the animus from the youngest of childhoods.
It's a good thing the west is retarded and went for a long time saying how "japanese cartoons are all satanic". Otherwise I wouldn't have known that my favorite ones, from Mazinger to Speed Racer to Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya to Slam Dunk and more, were from japan.
I liked this. It had good atmosphere. Too bad horror manga always gets live actions other than anime.
Horror is not meant to be screams and jump scares, or showing you ugly monsters and gross violence. That's just a cheap excuse western movies do, because it's easy.
A horror movie is not supposed to try and scare the viewer in the real world - thereby ejecting the viewer from the movie. It needs to build anxiety and be immersive at the same time.
The other thing is, that horror is usually done in movies. You can't expect to keep that up for ling, and can't let the viewer stand up after 20 minutes, and try to get the same effect one week later for another 20 minutes.
Because anime is mostly series, it will never be completely horror, it will have horror elements at most. When anime sometimes does it for a scene or episode, it's much better than the western gore and jump scares of the past 10 years.
Agreed. That ending scene with that reporter trying to get an interview from Keiichi about what happened to everyone was great.
The Footsteps Are Back...
I just wish the mood-whiplash of the build-up was handled differently after it was already obvious that something was wrong with the town.
Ghost Hound anyone? I don't understand why know one ever speaks about this in horror threads. Though the ending didn't fit to the whole series, the overall atmosphere was great.
>dat abandoned mall ep
Maybe it's just impossible to achieve, With certain restrictions in I doubt they can go to far with killings and such so they have to dumb it down.
I mean who picks up anime to watch a good horror anyway.
Animation can only be creepy.
It can never be scary. Deal with it.
Only way an anime would ever be scary is if you just downloaded an anime and midway. the subs post your real name and starts talking to you in response to to your reaction being called out by the anime.
>Anime cannot into horror
Once again, perfect blue
The Thing isn't scary because it's gross and neither is Alien. The Thing is held up as a great horror movie because it plays on paranoia and uncertainty, and Alien is held up as a great horror movie because it has one of the most unsettling monster designs in history and plays on isolation and the fear of being hunted. Both movies are heavily Lovecraft influenced by the way, specifically from Mountains of Madness.
Cronenberg literally does body horror, the gross factor is on purpose.
Also see the orginal Halloween, where there's maybe 2 drops of blood in the entire movie, it still scared the shit out of people back in the day.
You don't know anything.
The Thing and Parasyte play on my greatest fear, that of something unknowable lurking among us, disguised. Although Parasyte doesn't do it as well, but that's only because we get explanations and perspective from the Parasite's side.
Because animation is less scarier than live action since you are more aware that it is an illusion. And since it isn't interactive like a video game there isn't the same level as immersion.
Since a great bulk of anime is done in series, a studio is required to provide at least 12 episodes and 5 hours of non-stop thrills. That is very hard to do, thus the spooky things tend to be movies and the series tend to be no more than drama. However if most of these supposed horror series were rehashed as movies they would be praised rather than shunned. Imagine if Hell Girl was an actual demon instead of a waifu.
spoilering pic because it's really bumming me out and I can't tell if it's just me
>Horror doesn't sell and being episodic doesn't help
It's really a shame, because the era of AYAOTD, Goosebumps and TFTCrypt allowed for some of the most interesting short writing for live action shows. The acting was never great, but the ideas were pretty solid.
Now we're stuck with a bunch Sitcoms or Dramas where all that keeps the show running is gags or an actor with a face. Not everything's terrible and generic though. While nothing entirely new in of themselves Breaking Bad and GoT allow for some variety.
Anyway what I'm getting at though is I think if Paranoia Agent and Goosebumps could do it then it's not entirely impossible but as you said the time for it being successful enough to bother has come and gone.
The thing I didn't like about Ghost Hound was the art-style, and it's the only anime I would make that complaint about.
Ghost Hound would have been far more atmospheric and engaging if it had a more realistic style, something like Lain's for example. I felt it seriously detracted from the mood and stopped me from enjoying scenes I felt sure would have been engaging otherwise. Pic related is an example, could have been creepy-surreal instead of ridiculous. Everything else, like the music, was spot on.
I think an episodic horror anime could work if they picked the right source material.
Personally, I would really like to see a Goosebumps or Tales from the Crypt style anime based on the works on Junji Ito.
Monster had some pretty good creepy moments.
Like that one part where Johan is just fucking casually walking down the street in a garden and looks at Tenma looking at him through the binoculars.
I don't know about anime but reading Fuan No Tane late in the night made me really paranoid about little things
>Not one mention of Shiki
Really? It's easily the best horror anime out there.
S2 was shit though. They replaced the director and writers and apparently didn't see what could possibly go wrong.
>Monster had some pretty good creepy moments
Monster is one of the creepiest and disturbing anime I've ever seen. I wonder if HBO could do it any justice sine most of their shows are vilence horror.... Carnville was nice though.
Are there any other anime that are similar to Monster?
Shiki had absolutely great atmosphere and suspense for the first couple of episodes but slowly lost it until the finale just went insane.
A lot time was pointlessly spent with the side character. Those teenagers looking around might have been suspenseful in literature format but watching it was just boring.
And that one stoic motherfucker who doesn't talk and pretends he's so cool assface.
The fact that the anime had to kill him and make him even more special (turning him into a werewolf or whatever it's called when it's apparently insanely rare) just made me hate him more.
That fucking ost though.
It's the only ost that comes close to Higurashi, both the anime and VN, that can be creepy just be listening to it.
Shiki is great once you get over the ridiculous hair.
I disagree regarding the show's progression. The tone progresses accordingly with the story, and it stays consistently horror throughout. It's just that it changes in the manner that it's presented. In the first half, the horror comes from the unknown, the monsters picking people off and the fear building throughout. In the second half, the fear comes from the known; knowing how now that the cat's out of the bag the scenario is escalating and the insanity is very much a horrific end result of that. It's similar to The Mist, which is just about the only Stephen King story I could stand, where the horrific setting gives way to the horror of humanity rather than inhumanity.
I certainly didn't like the ending, but it did a fine job of continuing to horrify me while telling a mostly decent story.
Also, the fact that the doctor goes through every scientific process one by one before accepting the supernatural was brilliant.
The fact that the anime didn't show the vampire and left the viewer in the dark about what was causing everyone to die was pretty well done.
I really wonder if they can pull it off it they do it.
Anime is good because animation can do whatever you want it to look at which has a leg over movies/shows in general. Not to mention shading in general makes things much more suspenseful and the HBO show won't have that.
It's funny because a friend of mine refused to watch the Monster in its entirety even though he loves suspense shows and said that it would make for a good live action since it's mostly realistic.
This caught me so off guard. Scariest sequence I have ever seen.
I agree with you, I just find that the second part wasn't as suspenseful as the beginning.
I'd have to rewatch it to get a better feel for why I didn't completely like it but I remember it was because of the damn teenagers.
>It's similar to The Mist, which is just about the only Stephen King story I could stand, where the horrific setting gives way to the horror of humanity rather than inhumanity
The Mist was a very good story because the horror within was almost as horrible as the horror outside of the store. It's cliche but it's still pretty good when done right. And that ending...
I watched it since /a/ kept raving about it, but it was literally Jump Scare: The Budget Edition, complete with sudden volume changes. The vocaloid ED was also really unfitting.
My favorite spooky scene in Shiki was related picture.
The movie's ending was different from the book apparently. I think that the people in the car go in the mist and it ends like that.
The movie director didn't like the book's ending and changed it.
Although it's true that the whole ''ahhh come on, if they had just waited a minute it would have been fine. Why did have to do that?'' criticism is valid, it's pretty cool that humanity overcame the apocalypse.
Like, fuck you horror, this is humanity, we're going to fuck you because we will persevere in the end.
I don't really know how else you could have ended that movie.
That ending song though.
That moment the tank comes in, you can just feel it in your heart.
The music at that ending was just perfect, even if the ending was somewhat contrived.
>it's pretty cool that humanity overcame the apocalypse.
>Like, fuck you horror, this is humanity, we're going to fuck you because we will persevere in the end.
I dunno man, humanity was fighting, but the ending also showed there was some pretty big shit out there to deal with.
Gore isn't horror, you trisomic
Kiseiju never attempted to be horrorific, the gore aspect is there for a sense of dread, not to make you shit your pants.
But yeah, anime can't into horror unless they actually try to make something less anime-ish.
Watch Yamishibai on Crunchyroll, I don't think narutards fansubbers have tried their hand at it anyway
I like it because it's not every day you see humanity just kicking the ass of the unknown.
It's somewhat uplifting.
Everyone would have likely done like the people in the car.
''How can humanity overcome such horrors? The world is fucked, time to just shoot myself.''
Which I always found funny since people have an instinct to survive but lose all hope once they don't see any reason to move on.
And this movie just goes ''fuck your shit, humanity will find a way''.
It's probably what would happen in real life.
I just think people want horror to win more than humanity overcoming the impossible odds for some reason.
Higurashi's manga did horror well without being disgusting.
Though people bitched that it wasn't scary because it wasn't disgusting. Go figure.
The Alien in Alien was scary because you couldn't know if you could kill it.
Hell, you don't even know if it died in the vacuum of space. Not to mention the movie isn't only scary because of the aliens.
The Space Jockey is also scary as fuck.
This big ass 20 foot tall giant dead in his seat is scary as fuck because it shows the unknown of space and how small we are.
The example here is a guro manga
Guro doesn't come from "Gore", but from "Grotesque". It's something you're supposed to watch, be disgusted but then just say "That's fucking dumb".
Horror well done plays on the ambient, the mystery, the unknown and it's definitvely not easy to pull off correctly.
So yeah, don't try for guro if you're looking for tense subtle ambient, guro is as stupid as a jumpscare on that aspect.
>The fanservice driven slice of life episodes were just increasingly awkward after the traumatic reveal in the first story arc.
It's kinda of the point.
You absolutely need the happy moment fanservice episodes or else you wouldn't care about the characters.
The one downside to the manga in my opinion is that it didn't drag too much in the fanservice like the VN does.
You have fun with friends and then you don't know if those said friends are going to kill you.
Then everything is back to normal and you question what the fuck is going on.
At the third episode, Higurashi fucks with you with the idea of ''another K1'' experiencing the past episodes even though he was somewhere else.
Without the happy times, it wouldn't be able to do that.
Everything in Higurashi, even the happy times, is made to give you paranoia.
Off the top of my head the only western cartoons I can think of that I found unsettling was Bill Plympton's stuff. And they're mostly comedy anyway, so it probably wasn't intentional.
Stupid jumpscare perhaps, but I think what made that comic so effective was the way it suddenly wrenched control away from you and forced you through the scare scene without being able to stop it (effectively, anyway). It's a hard hit for the people who would inch down slowly because they're too apprehensive to go on.
>this 4 year old girl greets you at midnight, in the middle of the road, when the telephone lines are cut
Japanese are big fans of Lovecraftian psychological horror, the fear of the unseen and such. It never translates well into a visual medium, just look at the movies they made off Lovecraft novels
Err, "the example here" was wrong.
I meant to day "your example". Guro manga is usually just gross and made for the shock value Look at Waita Uziga's shit. Some Junji Ito sadlyy fall into that, like Gyo, with death fart-powered machines.
Junji Ito's best work still is Black Paradox, it feels so different from his other comics.
As for the korean webcomics, the genius part is that it uses actual horror.
In Alien or The Thing, you know the enemy is completely unkillable, you're powerless and you won't be able to escape.
These comics use something similar, by hijacking the use of a mechanic everyone is familiar with (a browser) and forcing you to watch some unsettling animation you have no control on.
Under the creepy animation or the jumpscare, that korean dude actually gave some thought over what would be creepy while using a web browser, and that's why that page is brilliant.
>tfw watching it for the first time on comicnaver
i did not expect sound
horror is shit anyway, it literally only works on some people. for me that am so used to watching fiction, nothing in movies really scares me anymore since I always have that "it's not real" mentality
Ito´s manga is one of the scariest shit I´ve ever seen. Imagine if Ito worked on silent hill.
Why they were goddamn babies? It could have been something great, but every time something happens they turn into floating babies.
I know it's just my autism speaking but goddammit
Good news for you >>121873396
Konaka Chiaki writes the script for Shishou Series. It originally start from 2ch
>The story of the original novels revolves around a protagonist (played by Takasugi in the project) who experiences various spiritual encounters due to his upperclassman at his college's club, the "master teacher" in the series title that has spiritual sensitivity.
Vampires =/= horror.
Shiki is a terrible anime, the only scene taht came to being spooky was when vampire Pink Girl entered Edgemaster's room. The vampires themselves looked so shit that they wouldn't even fit in Phantom Blood as bizarre vampires.
>It's probably what would happen in real life.
If the unknown turned out to be Earth wildlife, but slightly crazier, then yeah sure.
To see what happens when an actual unknown horror comes forth, see In The Mouth of Madness.
>I just think people want horror to win more than humanity overcoming the impossible odds for some reason.
Humanity overcoming impossible odds is not horror. If your horror story ends with "we shot them until they died, and then the status quo was restored, bar a couple dead ppls" then it's not a horror story, it will just have horror elements.
It's just violent.
Give this a try, it's rather eerie.
I don't know if it's just my taste is narrow, but generally I really like documentary style horror like the Blair Witch or The last exorcism.
The shaky and noisy video quality seems just so fucking real. Even though you can't perfectly see the details, you can still visualize something scary behind those blurry frames.
Fucking blair witch.
On the topic, I don't think anime after 2000 can be good horror, since the color scheme they choose is always bright. What I find hilarious is some filler episode in a SoL could have better horror element than shit like Another.
I hope his next title does some. Some of those one shots are fantastic.
>Humanity overcoming impossible odds is not horror.
I know. It isn't horror if the known can destroy the unknown.
I just find it interesting that horror must be completely untouchable by natural forces.
>you will never be as scared as when you were a kid, wanting to go to the bathroom but being afraid that the mirrors would suck your soul to hell
I believe that people want to experience the fear as when we were children.
The Blair Witch was a stupid and shit movie.
I'd argue that you could classify manga like Blam! and PunPun as horror with their respective genres, they both position you in incredibly sad situations that could happen to you if you were to make the same mistakes.
If you have not read punpun, don't unspoiler pic related or it's impact will be diminished.
Banshee Chapter is a fairly recent release and one of the scariest films I've ever seen, despite being American. Aside from that I really haven't seen any good horror movies for a long time; most of the good asian horror films came out over eight years ago. I certainly haven't heard of any newer films being praised or recommended.
Aiko did nothing wrong.
I just wanted her to be happy.
In all honesty Fatalframe made it impossible for me to feel safe around mirrors in the dark and I could not do it when I was fifteen because of how much it scared me.
I don't know if The Borderlands/Final Prayer would be sp00by enough for you but I can pretty much guarantee that the ending will have an impact. One of the best horror movies I've ever seen and one that does found footage right.
>I just find it interesting that horror must be completely untouchable by natural forces.
Not necessarily, you can make horror without any supernatural elements in it. The guy chasing you is mortal, but good luck killing him. That sort of thing.
Even existential horror can feature mortal unknown, as was the case in the sci-fi novel Blindsight.
It's when your mortal antagonists are literally just spooky looking animals or spooky humans with spooky guns that it all falls apart.
The art style worked much better for Jigoku Shoujo.
But i wouldn't call that horror either.
And it wasn't that good either. Pic related for one of the few truly great episodes.
>The guy chasing you is mortal, but good luck killing him. That sort of thing.
Right, but it feels like he's supernatural is what I mean.
>It's when your mortal antagonists are literally just spooky looking animals or spooky humans with spooky guns that it all falls apart.
Of course, it's all in the buildup and execution.
Seconding this quadding gentleman, ghost hunt was pretty scary for me back in the days
>Not necessarily, you can make horror without any supernatural elements in it. The guy chasing you is mortal, but good luck killing him. That sort of thing.
I find as I get older that I'm less scared by movies about ghosts and monsters and more by things like the absolute psychopath found in Dread.
>First two arcs are mostly lighthearted and mystery-focused
>Then the haunted mansion arc
>That fucking finale
I used to be scared by ghost and monsters because I thought they were real. Movies were just people's imagination on how these sorts of Monsters would fuck up people who met them.
I always found psychopath to just be weird people. And serial killers are just not like in the movies or tv shows.
Maybe it's because I've studied up on all the serial killers throughout history that I'm just jaded.
Like, for example, the Night Stalker creeped me out as a kid but I just feel nothing anymore.
Now I'm just not scared of either Monsters, Ghost or psychopaths and it's a sad feeling.
I prefer to be scared of imaginary nightmares.
>infection rarely occurs
>95% mortality rate
Except you know it won't happen.
When you deduce every possible outcome, things become less scary.
Maybe it's the reason I still yearn for supernatural horror but that's just me.
Notice a show like Courage The Cowardly Dog's only scary scenes are when it switches to 3D (the girl playing the violin that turns around, You're Not Perfect, King Ramses). As someone else said, horror needs 3d lighting.
Boogiepop was eerie as fuck. The creepy atmosphere and the washed out colors did it.
Whenever japan tries to make horror that depends on liniar plots and that clearly stays within genre boundaries, it fails miserably ("Another", anymore?)
But when focused on mystery and atmposphere, great things can happen. Boogiepop. Lain, Texhnolyze, Mononoke...
I think this is I Am A Hero, and IAAH is actually comedy with some spooky moments. I was laughing all the way.
Another doesn't count. It's basically Final Destination in 2D.
>I think this is I Am A Hero
Right, that's the name.
Yeah, if seen as a comedy, it's pretty hilarious. There's a lot of really stupid shit in it.
>zombies fighting each other via martial arts
>that one zombie at the beginning biting the MC with him wondering why she's doing that
>refusing being given a blowjob
>that whole introduction before the apocalypse where the MC is such a fucking idiot
>everyone not having a gun because Japan is strict on its anti-weapon program even though you'd think the Yakuza would have a million illegal guns lying around if that sort of shit happened.
I personally just dropped it after the transition to that group. It was just boring.
Apparently it went retarded so meh.
>Not liking I am A hero because it's not generic american zombie shit
jesus christ what are you even doing here? i am a hero is fantastic and you have the shittiest taste, fuck off
Blair Witch was shit.
>Oh, we're lost innawoods.
>muh map, where's muh map
>waaah, I want to carry the map!
>the rocks are piled up
>the rocks are moved
>we're walking in circles
Only documentary style I've actually found scary were the youtubes of the Paris and Odessa catacombs.
Dude, being better than the average doesn't give it a pass.
I judge things on their own.
This why I get pissed whenever anyone says ''oh well, this anime is good because it's better than the average anime''.
As thought that even fucking meant anything.
There are a lot of things I like about it like still having the monsters being somewhat like zombies but being their own thing. Like it still following the rules of being bitten yet them being super zombies whenever the plot requires it and seeing the inner workings of how they think but it's not really a great story.
I like the bit where a zombie tries to bite the MC but she doesn't have any teeth so he doesn't get inflected.
That was cute and it's a wonder why no one else has done this.
But overall? I'm not impressed by it.
>I like the bit where a zombie tries to bite the MC but she doesn't have any teeth so he doesn't get inflected.
>That was cute and it's a wonder why no one else has done this.
I'm pretty sure I've seen that in a few different stories.
>The blair wich is the best horror film ever made.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Explain why it's good without comparing it and I'd be tempted to get better taste.
Me too but I honestly can't recall it in any zombie stories.
In all seriousness, Elfen Lied is just dark, that's it. Darkness isn't used as a medium to deliver a message or even to tell a good story. It's just dark, sometimes, and that's it.
Some parts of Chaos;Head VN had good horror, but obviously didn't adapt well into the anime. I think the first person perspective really helps VNs in that regard.
There's more than one definition of horror, disgusting horror is one type of horror theme. Not specifically intended to be horror inducing, but make you legitimately feel disgusted.
>mfw Ito's Glyceride spaghetti face part
>Literally there is one good horror anime
Fixed for you.
nothing that is non interactive cannot into horror
Only videogames and literature can do horror because "Its scarier in your head" is true, and you are much more invested in a book with your imagination and the interactive nature of a video game immerses you into its world, making them the only generes that horror can work, when done right
Movies, Anime, Songs, TV shows, all just cannot scare you because they are all non interactive and non immersive media
>getting scared by fucking video games.
When you think about it, trying to invoke moe and trying to invoke fear (a.k.a. Horror) are opposing concepts, whereas moe incites you to want to protect someone, whilst horror makes you want to be protected from something scary. Moe is quite integral to the anime aesthetic, so it's no surprise that good horror is scarce within the medium.
I really wish more of Ito's work would be adapted, some of his stories were silly but unnerving as fuck. Tomie was really weird and creepy I'd love for it to get an anime.
Holy shit, fuck you for recommending this.
I gave up on this after the arc where everyone was gay and that was the focus for like six fucking episodes.
I got to the end of that arc but after how shit it was I just didn't care anymore.