How can people not root for Onodera to win after this scene?
I was literally cheering at my screen.
That has nothing to do with it. It's because she's boring as fuck and exists for no reason other than to let retards circlejerk about "muh malleable girl that I can make do whatever I want"
I didn't insist. If he'd read the manga, he'd realize that Onodera literally doesn't do a fucking thing, while the Gorilla becomes a better version of Onodoormat.
Ruri is, I think.
No, you did insist.
>Fuck off, animeonly-fag
"Your opinion on this boring character is invalid unless you read this really boring manga, like I did."
That post was really, really obviously a joke.
There are a lot of fags on /a/ with shit taste.
Onodera a best.
Thought I should clarify that I'm not ranking the girls in my post.
>How can people not root for Onodera after this scene?
If he wasn't an animeonly-fag, he'd realize why nobody cares about her. His question is centered around an understanding of the character.
OP's question is "Why doesn't everyone care about her?", not "Why does no one care about her?". I'm not even sure how you could misread it, bias or not. There are anime-only gorillafags, so his question stands. Watch your blood pressure.
>How can people not root for Onodera to win after this scene?
To which I would answer "She's the most boring and generic in a disgustingly boring and generic series, and she only gets worse as the manga progresses"
Hers change in size pretty randomly, so I just put them as equal seeing how they're the two biggest.
Just double checked and in the beach episode Marika mentions Tsumugi's are slightly bigger than hers.
when did sweetness and purity become "bland?" tsundere is such a laughably otaku choice because it's the personality type that bludgeons the insecure, beta MC with an aggressive pursuit that effectively allows the guy to become the girl (i.e. the pursued in lieu of the pursuer)
this is canon weeb behavior. real men want a nadeshiko
Tsugumi > Ruri > Marika > Haru > Onodera > Shitoge
>Onodera is boring
>therefore she's bad
Anime has literally rotted your brain. Just because a girl doesn't have an exaggerated personality doesn't mean she's boring. She's submissive, cute, moe, and loving and loyal and kind.
Onodera is the Megumi Kato of Nisekoi
She is a literal titty monster, bro.
But she's exaggerated to be as boring as possible, that's the thing. Megumi is actually a character, Kosaki's entire reason for existing is "look she's a cardboard cutout that I can mold into whatever I want in my head!"
I think her mom also qualifies.
Fuck you, man.
I think while you can recognize all the girls have their moments, it's only natural to have a favorite girl and preferences of one girl over another.
>implying I truly route for my favorite and haven't just accepted Gorilla will win
The episode where Raku goes to work at Onodera's family sweets shop was undeniable proof that Onodera is the best girl.
That episode convinced me.
She just blows every other girl out of the water.
/a/ why did you warn me about Onodera dropping spaghetti and cringe everywhere when Tsugumi was a million times worse?
The only upside was she became irrelevant fast.
>entire story is centered around Chitoge
>lol it's just a plot device
I don't like her either, but don't be stupid.
She does, but that's irrelevant to my post. I specifically said that I wasn't ranking them.
>Onodera rated #1 in nisekoi popularity poll in Japan
>Chitoge somewhere like 5th place
>"chitoge will win"
The delusion is unreal. Onodera winning means sales, and money never lies, anon.
>liking submissive girls means you are a beta
When did this become a thing?
Did you not read the manga? She has a lot of relevance and development for being a side character.
I'd assume it has something to do with betas wanting control over a girl. Actually, people have been saying that for years.
It seems like one of those glass half full things, where people either think you're normal, or you're a desperate beta who just wants to feel powerful by marrying a submissive girl.
It never became a thing, "feminists" just desperately want it to be accepted that "real" men are attracted to "strong" women. Men with high testosterone are attracted to femininity.
Don't bring 3DPD /pol/ shit in here, this has nothing to do with those disgusting freaks. It's more like the anon above you said, that people assume that if the submissive girl is your favorite you're a beta bitch who wants to feel cool.
It's irrelevant at the end of the day, because 2D is perfection in all it's forms.
Which part of the alpha/beta contrast wasn't already dumb /pol9k/ shit? Which part of my post said people don't assume that? The point of my post is that regardless of how deluded people are, it's not a thing. Masculine men seek feminine women. Alpha males want a mate to bring along on their ride, beta males seek a mate to spice up their lives.
Threadly reminder that Marika was so popular that the author had to literally kill her off to stop her from winning.
Threadly reminder that the Onodera clan is going to go extinct because the author is going to make Shitoge win despite her being only the 5th best girl in this series.
That implies that anyone who doesn't like Onodera is a beta, though. All of the other girls show plenty of femininity, Onodera is just the only one who's entire archetype is that.
Threadly reminder that I don't think you idiots understand how polls work, and one autistic nip buying hundreds of copies of Jump doesn't mean that Marika was the most popular. The polls are bullshit, and above all, unimportant. They mean nothing, and don't dictate the story.
There isn't a single implication in either of my posts. It's a direct response to someone asking why people thinking like a feminine girl is beta, explaining that it isn't. Anything you're reading between the lines is your own projected insecurity.
>Anything you're reading between the lines is your own projected insecurity.
Phew, that's a relief.
I don't think anyone was saying it WAS beta to like feminine girls, just that more often than not betas are attracted to them because they seem easy to mold.
At least we can all agree that no one wins ending up with a faggot like Raku.
>At least we can all agree that no one wins ending up with a faggot like Raku.
I just can't get used to the "winning" and "losing" shipping shit that neo/a/ brought, porbably straight out from MAL forums now that 99% of the userbase has changed, but sure.
It doesn't matter if people are saying it's exclusively a beta tendency or usually a beta tendency, the issue is that people feel free to accuse others of being beta for it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to mold things in your image in the first place, that's what leaders do.
Stop, it was always like this.
Yeah, of course. I totally agree. I don't think I'm articulating my thoughts properly, but I personally see most of it as "I'm bitter about girls so I want one that will do whatever I say". I think it's just the way I look at it, but I start to see some truth in it when people like Kevin-kun post.
Then again, I've always liked tomboys with hard-hitting personalities, so maybe I'm a little biased.
ever since toradora turned the genre on its head by having multiple best girls and making the worst girl win we have to put our energy into supporting the best girls who are doomed from the start.
Of course there's a difference, but the entire board is different to some degree. People were fighting over what girl would "win" in like 2007. Though, I absolutely fucking hate this "X Bowl" shit. I can agree with you 100% on that.
Collectively hating an ending doesn't equal shipping wars. I don't recall seeing the same kind of shit flinging back then. It was common to call a girl a bitch when she started getting too aggresive on screen for some reason or started fucking things up but this kind of fanbase war wasn't present.
>talking about how you're going to masturbate to the ending scene while everyone else cries
If anything, it's gotten more tame.
Either way, "my favorite girl>your favorite girl" has been here for a long time.
Admittedly I used to frequent slice of life threads more than anything and classic harem threads, not of the ones airing at the time, were peaceful. But just going from the front page alone back then and now, it has no doubt become much more aggressive and divisive.
I'll tell you why you're noticing it now. Back then all the hate was pretty one sided directed toward characters with nonsensical violent outbursts, like Nina from Code Geass, or violent tsunderes, like Houki or Kirino right after. These days the shit gets tossed randomly everywhere.
>classic harem threads, not of the ones airing at the time
Oh boy. Yeah, that explains it. It's always been pretty vitriolic. You don't really get that in shows that have ended, except for the occasional anon who's still butthurt over the ending.
I don't really think it's gotten that much worse. It really has always been divided in terms of favorite girls.
Marika = Best grill
That's not pure by any stretch of the imagination. I mean, they aren't even in a committed relationship.
But I don't want to perpetuate the retarded waifu wars shit anymore than we do every thread, so I'll shut up.
It was the worst arc ever made in any manga. I love Haru, but the bitch spent 4 chapters finally deciding not to enter the Rakubowl and then she changed her mind in the last fucking panel.
I think he's referring to the modern light novel harem era and the childish and shitty gaia-like fanbase it brought. I wouldn't be surprised to see fan fiction being discussed.