>>122241757 He waits until there is a victim though even when he knows their past crimes and tendencies. He's a cool guy but he is only about raw justice, not protecting people from bad things happening to them
I have just realized that the entire plot of Death Parade is for Decim to learn Human's emotions and how to judge more correctly. So according to some people, he was wrong when he sent the mom to void. And yeah he did it wrong, that was pretty much the entire point of the show - Decim learning how to be a real arbiter.
>>122242207 Pretty much everything you ever do even things that don't necessarily matter to you have the potential to make someone else suffer. It's not as easy as you're making it out to be. Deliberately making someone else suffer is another thing obviously but context matters either way.
>>122242363 The brother only failed because the game he played drew out too much anger from him. The only person that was genuinely "wrong" was the detective fully aware of himself and accepted it. The young brother was put into the worst situation possible. The credits are even shown to make us sympathize with him more, as if to tell us "did he deserve to get voided?"
Keiji-san didn't cause any suffering (except to the bastards who deserved it.) Even if he hadn't been there, the people would still get raped/beaten/killed/whatever. Observing doesn't cause harm. His being there doesn't cause anything. By killing the bad guys, he prevents future suffering. Simple logic.
This is /lit/ material, not /pol/. Stop being a newfag moron. Have you ever even been to /pol/? You're just spouting that as an insult in places where it doesn't even fit the definition.
>>122242494 >Observing doesn't cause harm. His being there doesn't cause anything. By killing the bad guys, he prevents future suffering. Simple logic. He is a hard boiled detective adult man who most likely has the power to stop crimes he witnesses and knows enough about the law. Again, he let's them suffer to punish the criminals even harsher. He wants justice and revenge, not protect people. I'm not saying it is wrong of him, but it is a selfish desire by a self interest of punishing evil. That's his thing.
>>122242286 Isn't that obvious, I initially thought about including that in my post but decided not to. Pattern recognition played a huge part in setting us apart from other animals but it only goes so far.
>>122242494 Stopping crime is his fucking duty as a police officer/detective holy shit. You are literally /pol/.
>>122242753 >Eating a burger right in front of a children starving to death makes you an asshole. How? It's your burger. Taking a burger from starving children and eating it makes you an asshole, you communist fuck.
Consider this. What if we had a bunch of men like Keiji-san running around, removing all evil? The world would be free from evil men, eventually. Therefore, his actions are good because they lead to good eventual outcomes.
>>122242787 >but there's no legal obligation in that respect Actually could be considered to be illegal here (Finland).
>Neglect of rescue >A person who knows that another is in mortal danger or serious danger to his or her health, and does not give or procure such assistance that in view of his or her options and the nature of the situation can reasonably be expected, shall be sentenced for neglect of rescue to a fine or to imprisonment for at most six months.
>>122242960 He's obssesed with revenge, simple as that. If the world was run with people like him, everyone would be on edge to not offend anyone because fear of retaliation by someone else. It would be a fucking mess, there would probably be a civil war if you want to actually talk about that if people like Keiji took over. He's a failed batman, hell even Kitsurugi from Fate was strangely better in his morals of focusing to save people by any means necessary, not punishing evil I love revenge stories but Keiji by no doubt deserved to get voided by the standards of the show
>>122241653 It's not that the brother should have forgiven the detective, it's that the brother gave in to revenge for the sake to satisfy his anger. I dont think he should have been voided because he was put in such a terrible situation, both driven by Decim AND the detective into torturing the guy.
>>122242834 >The wife from ep 1 Deserved to be reincarnated >The couple from ep 3 Definitely deserved reincarnation >The neet from ep 4 Reincarnation, he didn't do anything really wrong in life, and he suffered quite a bit. >The woman from ep4 She could have gotten reincarnated if she wasn't such bitch in the trial/when she got famous. >The idol from ep 6 Let's say he deserved the reincarnation >The girl from ep 6 She deserved a reincarnation, but she got nothing. >The detective from last episode He should have gotten reincarnated if he had started feeling bad about not trying to save people >The onii-chan from last episode He definitely deserved reincarnation, and would have gotten it, if Decim and the detective hadn't provoked him so much.
>>122242960 The world will not be free of evil, it cannot. Its impossible. To do so would require the intervention of nothing short of near Godlike capability to control everyone and purge all thoughts of "evil" from our minds.
And there's the hyper-prickly topic on WHAT is EVIL.
Besides, the whole Reincarnation - Void thing is overrated in difference. You guys think it actually matters? There is no Heaven. Either you effectively "die" with your memories and what makes you you purged to live a new life, another person OR sent to the Void, permanently.
Even if you do get Reincarnated, sooner or later an incarnation of your soul will fuck up, and you;d get sent to the Void just like everyone else.
Death Parade is GrimDark as fuck. Their God has effectively abandoned them to an inherently flawed system
The Arbiters has 2 choices, ONLY 2 choices -send a soul to mind scrubbing and sent back to the wheel of life where they will die again to be judged again -send the soul to the empty abyss of nothing to dwell with their negative emotions and nothing else for all eternity
Reincarnation only delays the inevitable. Sooner or later an incarnation will fuck up, and into the Void you go.
There are no winners in DP, only losers, would be losers, and the sad fucks that have the job to perpetuate this shit system
>>122243645 >implying she didn't cheat her husband She cheated on her husband, but felt like shit after doing it. Also she threw the tantrum at the end of the episode because she knew what was going on and she decided to protect her husband. At least that's what I think. But even if I'm wrong she still deserved to be reincarnated because she regretted that she cheated. >the idol Fair enough, I just thought that he performed really well during the judgment.
>>122243645 >playing with the feelings and breaking every girl just to feel good and keep having sex He didn't play with her feelings. He has casual sex and dates them for awhile and stops. Thats it. She was too attached and committed sudoku. He wasn't in the wrong. If he played around with many girls and was an asshole, he would have been voided.
>>122243985 yeah she cheated, she still didn't say anything to her husband until they were in quindecim and was just for the purpouse of saying that wasn't his kid, she said that because she thought that the husband were going to spend the rest of the eternity in hell, so he wouldn't be crying all the eternity thinking he killed his family, instead he killing a whore, making a good thing don't erase the bad thing tho
>>122244178 they didn't even show if he was reincarnated, also, are you trying to say that don't giving a shit and just play with the feelings of every girl and breaking them isn't a bad thing?
Are you judging by outcome (action) or by intention? From my point of view, killing bad people = saving good people = good. Doesn't matter why he killed them or when. It's most efficient to kill them before they commit a crime, but even afterwards you save people in the future by removing asshole.
Intention is secondary to action in determining a moral right. Not to say it has no part, but it's more minor than actual outcome.
>>122244448 >Not writing it in a void function You had one job anon. >>122244616 >making a good thing don't erase the bad thing tho I didn't say it does, but cheating was only thing she did wrong, at least the only thing that we know of that we know of. Cheating once on your partner isn't something so wrong that you'd need to void someone for doing it.
It was an exercise in thought, not a solution proposal. In judging an action, one means is to consider what would happen if everyone took that action/outlook. Would that be good or bad? It's a method of thought.
I agree the system is flawed. That's half the point of the show.
Because you're a christian-centric imbecile. Reincarnation is arguably better than a boring, sterile, pious heaven. Either way, it doesn't matter. Just think of it as pass/fail, good/bad, heaven/hell. What it actually is doesn't matter. The point is Decim making a judgement.
>>122244924 yeah she cheated the man who put his trust in her, being married, and still while going to have a child, she didn't say anyshit and died, also this show have a lot of things doing bad, if you get reincarnated, what that shit stop you from cheating again?
>inb4 is a different person with different mindset and raised by different parents
so why the "corrupted" soul need to be voided?, they will have the odds and the hope of born in a good family
>>122244990 I know, at least their system has some structure, and the staff, except for that old Shady Guy, Nona and Co., seems to be dedicated to the job.
Still utter shit, as if their God made it obtusely retarded to fuck with them and left
>>122245007 True that Hard to call it rape when more than half of em start liking it Its like all of them have the will equivalent of wet tissue paper Not that I'm complaining or anything
>>122245268 I'd rather call it shit/more shit since its either fully die-no memories or suffer for all eternity. Heaven implies something good or neutral. The Tower system is void or delay for a few lifetimes, then void
>guy thought his wife cheated because of something he overheard >the gossip was actually about someone else entirely >man got he and his wife killed because he was angry about the "cheating" (and distracted him while driving) >man's distrust and unjustified anger literally got his entire family killed >woman lied that it wasn't his child and she did cheat, so he wouldn't feel bad >she never actually cheated >Decim realizes afterwards that he made a mistake in voiding her
I was talking in terms of the show, if reincarnation is just scrubbing away your past life and throwing you back into the life cycle then eventually you're going to do something that gets you voided. Therefore getting voided is inevitable. From my understanding, the void isn't complete non-existance but rather being left alone with your thoughts and emotions.
Therefore it would be better to experience that whilst in possession of a strong character, either supremely good character or extremely bad character.
This is an incorrect conclusion. All you have to do is not be an asshole. It's entirely plausible to live countless ages without being voided. Void or not void is not down to random probability. It's down to making the best of your situation.
How is that an incorrect conclusion if we're going off of the assumption I listed? That your personality is scrubbed clean before being thrown into the life cycle again?
People aren't born assholes (not to mention it being completely subjective), they become one due to the circumstances they've been through in their lives. So long as you're being reincarnated and being thrown into different situations, with a different arbiter judging you at the end, then eventually you will get voided. I don't see how that was an incorrect conclusion in the slightest.
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