>>122255877 >>122256079 Nothing even happens in the chapter anyway. To do spoilers: Rudy eats Japanese food (with soy sauce) with Ruji and Norn. Moested likes playing ball with the Supard kids and will be on standby in the village. Goldy goes to gather info, Axey stays with Rudy. Rudy meets up with Zanoba and Zanoba tells him a rumor that Kalmann III is going to be participating in the extermination force, but can't actually find Kalmann. Rudy meets with the King, which is hilariously easy (he had to pay 1 gold to see him right away, which Asura gold is like 10 times the value of the local gold anyway). Convinces King to let him show two trusted...guards? that there are indeed harmless Supard in the forest. End chapter.
So I just caught up with this shit, after about a month of reading.
Are theories and the like being archived/compiled somewhere, or is it just mostly casual discussion? 'Cause I'd like some more insight regarding some matters. Specifically, why does Orsted want Hitogami dead? I'm not sure if he explained it at some point and I just forgot, but it's been bothering me for a while.
>>122259381 >Specifically, why does Orsted want Hitogami dead? I'm not sure if he explained it at some point and I just forgot, but it's been bothering me for a while. It's a pride thing. The previous Dragon Gods wanted to kill Hitogami and that task was entrusted to him and was what he was trained for.
As far as I can tell, he didn't have any personal beef with Hitogami before the loop shit.
>>122257425 Gisu is a shit-tier beta for Hitogami. No way around it.
"Haw-haw! I killed your entire tribe, including your family!" "Oh well... I'd hate you, but you helped me before so that would be a jinx. Better just bend over and ask for more, for the rest of my life."
>>122258338 I think... it's not even that wolf is a badass, as much as it is that wolf can cement the destiny of those around him. So Lara, who is integral to defeating Laplace, is safe, as is, presumably, the rest of Rudi's kids.
Hitogami needs to set up "sure kill" scenarios to deal with them, and any time Rudi or Orsted is near them, it becomes impossible for him to plan anything since he can only read their destinies if Orsted and Rudi "don't exist" going forward.
>>122261007 What else are you going to do? We're talking about someone who claims to be God, living in another dimension and can see the future. The same guy who made The Quagmire throw himself at the strongest guy in the world just stay on his good side.
"Hey, so I just murdered everyone in your town, but decided that since you were vaguely useful to me in the past, that I'll not engineer your death as well." "Okay." ... "He killed your entire family, and in the end he's going to toss you aside the moment he feels like it! Why are you following him even now?! We can protect you from him, and you can get revenge!" "Yeah, but jinx."
>>122261750 Seen another way, Hitogami probably knew Gisu would act that way, so he killed his race anyway. Gisu is pretty capable, and an overall huge asset for Hitogami, after all. Rudeus and Orsted certainly seem to think Hitogami is that crafty and he is
>>122261750 It's exactly the same thing that Rudeus did. His future self went back in time to warn him that Hitogami would kill everyone he loved. The next thing that he does is to follow Hitogami's orders to try and kill Orsted.
He doesn't have much of a choice against what he sees as an omniscient person that appears in his dreams.
>>122261007 >>122261750 All the apostles are like that. Badigadi doesn't like Hitogami, but feels indebted to him. Vita outright calls Hitogami evil, but since he saved him from a previous death god, he just viewed himself as being on borrowed time. And Monkey admitted he was pretty upset at the whole village thing, but still views him as owing Hitogami.
Basically, they have no sense of values. Rudy didn't view Hitogami's help as being worth the lives of Roxy and Lara, so he said fuck that. It's not like Rudy didn't feel grateful to Hitogami, it's just Hitogami tried to get too much from him.
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