>There are hundreds, if not thousands, of anime where the protagonist falls in love with shitty, abusive tsunderes
>There are no anime where the protagonist falls in love with a gentle christmas cake that takes care of him and loves him tenderly
Why does Japan have shut horrible taste? Why do they love abusive, bipolar girls and hate ara ara~?
Tsundere is olev when done right.
It's too bad lately the term has become a synonym of "total and utter bitch through and through, 100% of the time, with no redeeming features".
You might want to watch GARO.
Our hopes and dreams rest with it.
>There are no anime where...
At least there is manga.
She's not exactly a Christmas Cake, but she has at least 10 years on the hero.
Nice to know
I hate tsunderes because they can't tell clearly what they want but I also dislike wallflowers
Assertive deredere girls are the best but they never seem to get lucky
I think we should grow used to the fact that most characters either act 15 years older than they actually are or 15 years younger.
Doesn't really matter.
Emma's design yells Christmas Cake.
Plus she's voiced by Romi Park at her huskiest.
In general I like how Garo approaches the subject matter, in that people over 25 also have sex. In any other series, German wouldn't actually score or even fall in love.
>Plunge your ring here, Hachiman of Service Club. Take my hand!
>Someone, make her a wife or i'll...
>Or what? Marry me?
>Well, marry me! Do it!
I don't know. You know, this is what I think it is. They're vile on the outside, so you know that no one has stuck their dick in there. But after a lot of hard work and unrequited love, you get to the deredere part, which is great all around. So it's almost like saying that the girl is pure. As if anime girls need to get any more pure to please the virgin audiences that buy their figmas.
Christmas Cakes are great. I'm 26, and I love 26 year old girls. They're great because they are actually in control of themselves at this point, and won't be doing stupid shit (like wacking the MC when he sees them naked).
Oh, my cousin, who lives with me, just became a Christmas Cake today. I think if you don't become a Christmas Cake nowadays, you marry too early.
>I think if you don't become a Christmas Cake nowadays, you marry too early.
She isn't undesirable though, western women simply don't marry early because they want it all. They want careers, they want to ride the cock caroussel and when they're done they still want a beta provider to take care of them. If they can't find such a beta provider in time, they whine and complain.
They aren't pure and loving like the christmas cakes in my Indonesian shadow puppet theater shows.
>manga about older women living with MC
I'm still mad
I guess you're right about that. But seriously, all these animes about marrying your first love... it's like you're asking for divorce.
Is that all betas are good for? Getting married to? Because I feel like that's a terrible way to live life. I want to have slept with more people than my wife when I get married.
What about Virgin na Kankei? Comes as close to that as possible, adult career woman having an regular relationship with a kid fresh out of college?
Except it's a manga so technically it doesn't fufill the anime criteria...
She'll even tell the police that she wanted to suck your dick, and that she enjoyed it. Still rape.
Now, be a little boy and do the same thing, then it's not rape, you're just a smart little boy.
Normalfag note: I've dated two women who were virgins in their 20s when we met and one woman who started having sex at 14. After a while it became pretty obvious that the virgins were virgins because they had massive social and sexual hangups that'd never make for a stable relationship, while the used goods chick was just comfy and relaxing to be around.
>>That's not so much against virgins as it is "Women with issues have issues."
Not that anon, but the way our society is, most of the virgins you would see are that way because of issues, not by choice/standards/etc.
If we're talking about Christmas Cakes here, my point is that a woman who's still a virgin in her 20s probably has issues that'll make a happy relationship impossible. From my observations, a guy who's an old virgin just might be socially uncomfortable but a woman who's an old virgin probably doesn't have a real-life functioning sex drive.
I am a socially functional but non-aggressive sexually, male virgin. I have girl "friends" who would fuck me in a second but I have no real interest in casual sex. I can be one horny cunt and I can imagine whatever partner I end up with, if any, will have her crotch torn out and be hobbling around from over use. But yeah, no real interest in casual sex, not without some intense situational opportunity AND libido strength incentive (and considering I don't drink or otherwise, those types of opportunities are few and far between).
I'm a little awkward, but only to the closed minded type who thinks being "weird" is the worst thing possible in the world. I'm basically one of those betas who will NEVER make the first move without the sure knowledge that it won't result in a rape allegation or awkwardness in my social group/destroy a friendship.
So yeah, basically, woman has to make the first move/make the message clear. Which is fine because I like women who aren't afraid to say what they mean and aren't worried about sounding "too crass" or such.
That said. I do tend to agree that it's probably FAR less likely there being a woman my age (29, almost a wizard) who hasn't got some pretty obvious hangups and is a virgin (and, I don't know any women that are over 20 and are virgins, actually I might know one, a friend's cousin who's my friend, but she's Hindu and, to be honest, is awkward as fuck when any topic of relationships or such is raised, unrealistic romantic expectations I think, judging from her facebook interests and likes). It's just far too easy to get laid as a woman in current society, and no guy will destroy your confidence/psych or otherwise if you make it obvious you're into him and want to fuck, where i've seen plenty of women call guys perverts, rapists and otherwise for simply introducing themselves at a social (and that's very much the sort of "shut down" you get from that Hindu girl I mentioned, if anything in that sort is raised)
B-but that girl in highschool who treated me like shit and ignored me actually loved me! All anime and LN's that I have consumed have told me so.
But he's kind-of right. A lot of women are kicking and screaming out of the gender role ideas of old, but going a little overboard. Somewhat like how guys have trouble letting go of their gender "superiority" complex.
>see that pic
>remember doujin that hasn't been translated
Thank You OP!