Why are normalfags so bothered by sad anime (melodrama)?
My main value of an anime is if it can make me cry or not. I don't care if it's "edgy' or deep, and I don't care if the melodrama is great or not, I can get that shit from american tv shows so "melodrama" is something I can only get from Japanese dramas.
I only care if the melodrama is bad or not. Sometimes it's cringeworthy, or pulls you out of the moment, that is legitimate criticisms. But sometimes anons complain that drama anime/manga has "cheap drama" but who the hell cares? If it makes you cry, who cares if it is deep or not, or cheap or not, I just want to get from point A or B.
Also PA Works thread.
I'm the same way, you should read Chumo Once Again (sometimes called Once Again, idk).
I LOVE crying. I am a crybaby IRL and I love reading a story that makes me cry.
But I also go through phases when I am feeling very very stressed out the last thing I want to do is get invested in the trauma of another. I want a happy and fluffy story. Normalfags, who have jobs, are much more likely to get that daily stress and anxiety and need a nice happy story to unwind.
I think normalfags, and wageslaves, are more likely to cry over stupid shit like the girl secretary at their job bullied them or they are a virgin. That is why they are so angry at melodrama. People like us, who are superior, don't cry very often, so we need decent melodrama to "trick" us into crying those theraupeutic tears.
Anyway, I enjoy it. As long as the character development and stuff is done right, I like melodrama, it's my favorite anime genre.
Melodrama's really overrated. Tragedies and biting sarcasm are where it's at. If anything, normalfags love melodrama. I can't tell you all the normalfags who go on about how "sad Clannad is" or some shit like that.
>he goes cry regularly
Are you really saying it's some kind of glorious hipster thing to like melodrama? Really?
I dont know if you meant this post for me, but I do cry regularly and I am not a male nor gay but I feel like its cathartic for me. When I am done crying I feel better. Crying together with fictional characters in particular makes me feel closer to them, I feel their pain kind of thing.
I'm already a sensitive person so I cry very easily IRL as well and yes that can be an issue. Like yes, when I was new to 4chan I cried a lot when I got called names but not as much now.
Chumo Once Again makes me sob every single time I read it.
I think any story that makes me cry is a good story at least for that moment.
>The man who wrote adventures of elpeo puru and ideon
Please, anon, are you trying?
People who cry over Clannad are mentally challenged and should seek more education and story comprehension immediately.
Protip: The next time you see a Clannad thread, look at the posts.
Most of the posters have blatant misspellings in their posts. Capitalization and punctuation is forgotten, and Youtube-style idiocy is emphasized.
This exemplifies the low intelligence level of Clannad fans. It isn't without reason either.
Clannad is simply a story that was overly dramatic and tragic, a story that should've appealed to anyone with a sense of heart. However, most people have seen this strategy in the forms of books, movies, real life, or some other medium.
The dramatic, tragic story has been done many many times, and the single death of an over-dramatized "cute" characters should no longer affect the intellectual in a drastic way.
However, Clannad's target audience consists of 13 year old boys who have never experienced forms of higher literature or story. If one were to watch Clannad without having experienced stories with sadness in them, they would use Clannad as the base value for the genre. However, if one were more educated on the aspects of dramas and tragedies, one would regard Clannad as a poor attempt to appeal to their audiences.
Once the dramatic and tragic elements of Clannad are removed, the remaining dregs are composed of cute girls and pitiful comedic scenes. Essentially, this is what Clannad is to the educated and informed. A simple show which has no appeal whatsoever. However, to the uneducated, Clannad represents a new flavor of anime they have just experienced.
Although one can regard a new genre as wonderful, I would advise one to pursue more subjects of that genre. There is no point fawning over a single anime that broadcasted months or years ago. I would suggest that, instead of creating another Clannad thread, you should go watch some more anime. Or, better yet, you can always go read a book.
My mother (very normalfag, 2.5 kids and a dog, white, middle class, etc) hates sad endings and only likes happy ones. Sad endings in general test badly among most of society.
I do stick by my theory that when you are feeling highly stressed/anxious you need something lighthearted to forget your worries. When you are very relaxed you need something sad to make you cry and feel.
Those are post by 2 different poster. I'm the 2nd and not a troll.
I didn't think this was a Clannad thread, OP pic is not of Clannad.
Clannad is sometimes very cheery and it can move very very very slow but it has its sad moments as well. I like the parent/child motifs in general and those relationships are ripe for tears. At least for me. Just all those parental relationships make me cry and listen to Cranberries' Ode to my Family.
>what is a laughing reaction image
The only people who like melodrama are underage retards. Most people (be they from /a/ or otherwise) dislike it.
Touche except ALL THE OTHER TOP TEN are not tragic at all. so thats what, 90% happy ending 10% tragic?
Rest my case. Case rested. The end. In general a tragic ending is considered a risk people will hate it, because if you are a stressed out normalfag with a horrible job and bills coming out your ass you want to relax and see some escapism. You don't want to see anything too sad.
Titanic is amazing on many levels and I won't go into them here because its not /tv/ But there's a reason why its the EXCEPTION and not the rule.
Should I read Chumo Once Again and then do a vocaroo of my crying? Not sure how to prove I am not a troll.
But I promise you, yes I am a giant crybaby, yes I love to cry, especially crying over a good manga.
>I'm already a sensitive person so I cry very easily IRL as well and yes that can be an issue. Like yes, when I was new to 4chan I cried a lot when I got called names but not as much now.
WHAHAHHAHA you fucking faggot
Every reaction is a form of emotional enlightenment and no reaction is as deep as sobbing is. That is what we do when we are at our most exposed.. If something amazingly sad happens, you'd cry. If something amazingly happy happens, you'd cry. When you are angry to the core, you'd cry.
Tears are a sign of "I am feeling so much right now I don't know what else to do but make tears".
This emotional enlightenment is more true to ourselves than "intellectual" enlightenment, intellect flows forward from our emotional reactions.
Exactly, I have cried for the reasons of "I am sad", "I am happy", "this is epic", "I have a mixture of emotions" or even "I find this funny". That is why my rank of favorite anime is not based on objective qualities but how hard I cried. Of my 3x3 choices only 2 I did not significantly cry to, at some point.
Trying to extend the normalfag dichotomy to [any feature of shows I like] is retarded.
You want melodrama? Go watch a fucking soap opera. I'm sure your grandmother would appreciate being able to talk to you for a change.
>If something amazingly happy happens, you'd cry. When you are angry to the core, you'd cry.
This isn't how most people behave. Either that or you live in some real pansy country OP.
It's really a very individual thing how one reacts to melodrama (be it well written or otherwise,) and I think it has little to do with how much of a "normalfag" you are.
Without blogging too hard, suffice it to say I am over 30, well-educated, and while I work at a comfortable professional job now, I spent several years as a NEET. I also come from a background where I lost a lot of friends and some family members to drugs/violence/illness etc. from a young age, and live in a place where I still lose friends and acquaintances to the insane heroin epidemic happening around here lately.
It doesn't bother me at all when it happens.
What do I tear up over? Today's episode of Shigatsu ha Kimi no Uso.
Even though I know it's not very well written. Even though I know it's rather generic and uses cheap tricks to tug at your heartstrings. Hell, even though I have already read the ending of the manga.
I don't know why melodramatic Jap cartoons get to me and real life shit doesn't even phase me, it just seems to be the way I work.
Drama is a good thing. Melodrama isn't.
>My main value of an anime is if it can make me cry or not.
I'm the same. Except change "cry" into "entertain". And melodrama is not fun, but a cringeworthy parade of stuck-up people pretending to be living a life.
>I don't know why melodramatic Jap cartoons get to me and real life shit doesn't even phase me
i have a similar experience in life
i suspect representational and limited art makes it easier to focus on the basic qualities of a story or happenings plus exaggerated style of anime ensures that when it hits home it hits hard
whereas all the excessive details and endless intertwining factors and observer/participant problem of real life makes appreciation impossible
this might mean i'm autistic
And some of you people will still say that this place is not tumblr.
>crying over shitgatsu wa kimoi no kuso
It is anything but sad. Nobody even care about the blondeslut. The only people that like this show are middle school 14years old going through their chuuni phase.
Ep4 of NNB alone generated more emotional attachment than the whole or shitgatsu.
OP you are the normalfag.
neets have grown in numbers this generation and have gained an unwarranted amount of self-importance and have no understanding of the world or principles and bully everyone else from a position of ignorance
they are the chads of the internet
I dropped it on episode 09
The episode with the edgy mom, it was too much for me and I couldn't take it.
However, the other week I started watching it again starting from that episode, which still sucked but I liked the rest and it was pretty neat to see the parellels between that guys mom and his not-gf.
I cried a couple times and I don't feel bad.
I could put myself in his shoes, sure I never had gf but imagine falling in love with someone exactly like your mom, who is a cunt and then being presented with that "what the fuck" moment when you realize she's basically your mom, I liked that it was pretty cool.
Much better than lolis in the country or lolis speaking english or other moe SoL. Although those are okay too, they just don't do as much for me.
>It is anything but sad. Nobody even care about the blondeslut. The only people that like this show are middle school 14years old going through their chuuni phase.
Well, it is a shounen after all.
Honestly no. I don't care about "otaku" designation, I am a traditional white American and proud, I just like anime that makes me cry and feel things I wouldn't feel in real life. (true love, innocence, suffering not of my own invention etc.)
iktf bro...maybe I'm depressed or something, but I really relate to one of the show's themes of how special people can transform your life, as though a perpetual grey filter has been removed from your sight. Just the basic idea of the show, having something beautiful and transformative be necessarily transient, really resonates with me. I'm probably a bit emotionally stunted, but I'd like to think that I'm well-educated and self-aware enough not to be delusional in my appreciation for the show.
You know what, anyone who can admit such a thing to /a/ is quite brave indeed.
It's like walking into the tough guy bar and announcing "I used to be scared of you guys!" Except with less potential injury.
Life is suffering enough. Why do we need to experience even more suffering in 2d?
Are guys this masochistic?
I just wish the mods were awake so they could delete this thread.
God this thread is awful
>anyone who can admit such a thing to /a/ is quite brave indeed
No they're crybaby manchild who needs to grow up instead of blogging about their blabbing.
Everyone hates them because they are horrible human beings, so they have never experienced anything in their live, so all they can do is pretend over some shitty melodrama and talk about how glorious it is.
>I am a traditional white American and proud
>I just like anime that makes me cry and feel things I wouldn't feel in real life. (true love, innocence, suffering not of my own invention etc.)
I knew we've reached the bottom since a few years, but this is just scraping to go further down.
I don't know why you think shows that are supposed to make you cry and then don't are for you.
if you aren't touched by them, they clearly aren't and you should just consider staring at a wall for all it's worth to you.
>I enjoy some drama because the neet life is fucking boring
So get a job then.
>On the contrary, I enjoy some drama because the neet life is fucking boring
You're that much of a failure you need surrogate, fake drama about imaginary people to make you feel something you think it's how real people feel.
Do you realize how utterly insane this is? And you come here thinking this is your not-normalfag hugbox?
You're delusional on all possible levels.
The fuck are you on about? I said I was bored, and watching the same kind of happy shit over and over gets old, so its better to mix things up sometimes. This is opposed opposed to hating any kind of drama because it reminds me of some soul crushing depression I'm supposedly feeling according to the post I quoted. Could you be any more of an over exaggerating faggot, or are you just projecting?
>Isn't this the point of pretty much all works of fiction?
Not at all.
Fairy Tales, Operas, Thrillers and SoL are all different genres with different narrative standards, formulas and purposes.
Some people strive to make their works life-like while others don't, the reader/listener/viewer interpretation is another bridge in communication that when crossed might or might not radically change the creator's message.
This is basic science of communication principle.
Japanese tragedy plots are often convoluted and don't really add anything
Look at shield bro and his fat Tanuki. What does that ending add to the story? What was the point in the story at all? What are we suppose to take away from it? That the author has a case of college student narcissism?
I'm not, I loved Ano Hana but this isn't cutting it for me.
The way the author puts everything across and Tsubaki is just all done completely wrong. If it was between Kousei and Kaori then I could get with it but this retarded love square is pointless.
I'm undecided on how clever this is. I actually agree with this in general, though the pasta elements woven into it make it seem less sincere. The fact that such a large number of anime fans, on /a/, MAL, Reddit and what have you, all consider Clannad:AS to be a masterpiece, with barely any opposition outside of the most self claimed patrician circles, is a very strange happening to me. Call it 'forced drama' or whatever, but the series goes excessive lengths to take utterly bland, badly defined and will-less characters who only respond to things in the most dramatically convenient and exaggerated ways, and shoves them in for of the viewer in a manor that would make many soapies blush. To see people proud that they cried to it (frequently when they claim that nothing else would), I don't know what to make of it.
>actually believing most of /a/ are worthless losers
Surprise! A lot of people are normal here too.
Do you take the whole waifu thing seriously as well? Because you seem like the sort of newfag who would.
Really, what the fuck is happening with /a/ lately? We used to just have the occasional laugh about normalfags and be on our way, but recently that /r9k/ frogshit is seeping into everywhere, and people can't stop screaming "NORMIES" in every fucking thread.
I watch tons of fucking shoujo. SoL is almost all otaku focused shit that lacks the good qualities even that has. I'm the last person to be against the idea of slice of life in general, but it i a garbage genre outside of the few sincere things like Azumanga.
>We used to just have the occasional laugh about normalfags and be on our way, but recently that /r9k/ frogshit is seeping into everywhere, and people can't stop screaming "NORMIES" in every fucking thread.
The problem is that in recent years autistic neets have become the majority of the userbase in the popular boards and think this is their hugbox where they can feel protected, they're literally like those american feminists, but instead of screaming RAAAAAPE they scream NORMALFAAAAAAGS when someone points out the truth.
/a/ right now is a combination of exactly that hipster normals and even more hipster normals (/r9k/). People that are such trashes that no one wants them, so they go in whatever community the can find to pretend they are special, without caring about the reason it exists and just jurking off thanks to the social interactions they get from it.
>Do you take the whole waifu thing seriously as well
I thought most people here do because you fags always sperg out whenever someone posts that waifuism video and how he's wrong
I really believe most people are sincere about it
>The problem is that in recent years autistic neets have become the majority of the userbase
I'm not siding with them, but you do realize they used to be the main userbase before we "normalfags" got here? It's just in the recent few years where reddit/tumblr retards think they're welcome. It's like people on other boards complaining about /a/ reaction images, aka something that's been present from the beginning.
>I really believe most people are sincere about it
normalfags got their bebop mk2 with dandy and ackshun tunes with klk
the normalfags are contented
as before: /a/ is salty lately because there hasn't been a good anime in a few years
If anime makes you cry you're a fucking faggot.
The only value anime has is in entertaining people.
Normalfaggotry is not some sort of state about what you are doing right now with your life. Are you in your basement, or are you outside working and studying.
It is a matter of way of thinking, of your basic mentality. Of the things you like, the reasons you like them and the things you find acceptable. One of the most important signs of normalfaggotry is how little they care about things, for example anime. They just use places like /a/ to get their social interactions, so they don't die from loneliness and being unaccepted by anyone. Something a proper anon would not care about, but just try to contribute with something of value. Instead it has become a cult of the self and what a special snowflake you try to be, just like tumblr, I am on the internet I am so cool, just like reddit. They don't really hold anything dear other than their own ego.
"Moeshit" is what you watch when you grow up, son.
Whenever this word is used in a post I know the poster is either a faggot or a troll, and probably both.
>but you do realize they used to be the main userbase before we "normalfags" got here?
I don't remember /a/ being that overly fixated with moeshit when I came to 4chan, we used to talk about different stuff more often and even the old regular threads about Fate or other shit have changed drastically over the years, the only thing that maybe is still the same are EVA threads, except that now there's even more butthurt thanks to Rebuild.
and this>>122458963, back then not only we used to joke on it, we could even get serious talk about it without becoming overly defensive faggots that loathe on normalfags 24/7.
Normalfags weren't even considered back in the days, you could crack a joke or two about them and that was it, now it's one of the far too many boogeymen of 4chan together with feminists, Tumblr and Reddit, it's excessive, annoying and pathetic.
>or deep, and I don't care if the melodrama is great or not,
>I only care if the melodrama is bad or not.
am I the only one who noticed this? 130+ replies? seriously?
Normalfags love melodrama what the fuck are you talking about. They especially like it when people die melodramatically. sao sgk, akame, this show etc. People like us on the other hand commonly enjoy shows shows so devoid of real drama that normal people have no interest in them, like all the little girl moe shows. /a/ is also the only english place that likes those shows so it's obvious that people into them would congregate here, while there are plenty of alternatives for the normalfag stuff
Could you be trying any harder to fit in or what?
This thread reeks of special snowflaking and once again proves how the word "normalfag" has completelty lost its meaning and become another buzzword newfags use to "insult" someone who disagree with their opinion and biases.
Most anime is just bad at drama. Most of the Japanese entertainment industry can't into subtlety, so when they try for sadness it just comes off as exaggerated, campy melodrama.
For anyone not extremely used to it (as well as a lot of the people who are used to it) it quickly becomes impossible to take it seriously enough to feel profoundly sad. I remember when my mom decided she wanted to watch an episode of Fate/Zero with me and she was cracking up at the part where Zouken shows Kariya how Sakura was being wormed.
>Why are normalfags so bothered by sad anime (melodrama)?
I think you mean the retards on /a/ who fall for the whole 'forced drama' troll.
There's good drama and badly written drama, just like anything else. The people who apply the forced drama buzzword to everything unconditionally are trying very hard to fit in by using /a/ lingo.
It doesn't exactly help that all the autistic Chris-chans that have been wondering into 4chan over the years have turned this place into a complete shithole. People blame the normalfag boogieman, which is complete bullshit. Normalfags don't care about shitting up a chinese cartoon imageboard all day, the only people that do this are these faggots. Endlessly clashing with one another all day over pointless nitpicking and misunderstandings because they can't understand nonverbal queues over the goddamn internet of all places.
>I only consume 20 shows a season of currently airing rubbish
Because if it's cheap, shitty and cringeworthy it doesn't make you cry. If genre fiction cartoons aimed at kids and horny shut-ins make you cry you have shit taste. Anyone with half a brain won't be able to get so much into it that it makes them cry.
It's not a normalfag thing, it's a 'murrica thing. Americans love action and happy endings, they won't buy anything they consider boring or sad.
American television is better than any anime that will ever be released, now and forever.
Yes anon. What you're dealing with if that happens is called 'Your own shit taste'.
Look at it this way: all those normalfags you hate all cried watching Twilight or Titanic or The Notebook or whatever. You're no different.
Normalfags are just people who come here to tell us why watching anime is bad and how they slayed over 9000 pussy last weekend. For some reason the word came mean "anyone that doesn't shit their pants in their parents basement" in recent years.
Most people on /a/ try to lead somewhat normal lives, hence the whole obsession we have with hiding our powerlevels and whatnot.
This is true, but I find more anime that I like than television shows I like.
It's just that American television that's actually good is very, very good.
Anime is good entertainment, it's not good drama.
There's a difference, you fucking moron.
The best part is that almost all instances of 'normalfags' appearing on /a/ is regulars trying to troll.
Indeed. For every Sopranos there's two Big Bang Theories and for every The Wire there's a Dads, Two And a Half Men, a 10 minute lecture from The Newsroom and a Honey Boo Boo. At least anime's consistent with its mediocrity.
Only because they are confident enough to kill main characters off and give it a decent ending.
Plus they make the drama parts pretty interesting where Japan is fucking shit at it.
>trying to bait this hard
What's your favourite tv show?
The Wire wasn't just one story.
I'd argue that anime would be better off without the seasonal system but most anime probably wouldn't be able to sustain more than 4 seasons at most of storytelling.
I think a big part of it is that the US has a lot more variety when it comes to entertainment styles and writing than Japan has ever had.
There's a lot of similarity between anime, Japanese cinema, Japanese video games, etc. when it comes to the stories they tell, the characters they contain, and the themes they reach for.
I mean, people talk about anime not having any subtlety, but that's almost all Japanese media in general.
I enjoy anime specifically for its escapist qualities anyway.
If anime actually consistently adapted the material it was based on, it'd take about 12 years for the average anime to wrap itself up, with big gaping holes between seasons.
But instead, we get halfhearted attempts that doom a good start to a shit ending so that everything will fit into a set season.
Yeah I'm not talking about enjoying anime since it's already pretty obvious that I do, since I'm posting here.
I just want to understand it better, I suppose. From my perspective.
Well, what do you want to talk about? It's not like crossboarding and being mentally deficient is illegal. Shitposting is easy to ignore.
Aria being shit and not fun means it's shit and not fun anime, actually.
>no panty shots
>no tryhard pretentious bullshit
>no squeeling underage lolis
>no giant robots
>no tsundere characters and beta males with a harem
>no wish-fulfillment bullshit for otaku scum
Spirited Away is barely an anime, it's more of a superior Western cartoon that both children and parents can enjoy.
And Miyazaki was completely right about anime in general being a mistake.
I think the problem with this, ironically enough, is that nobody takes anime that seriously. Most entertainment executives see it as a glorified TV ad, and it's not like the author's going to see much of that advertisement money. It'll help him, but more in a marketing sense as he sells more LNs or manga.
LoGH is not your average show. It's probably the best anime to have ever been made, and is treated similarly to how tv fans treat The Wire (with respect). That's the basis of my assumption. Of course, this only counts if you consider both shows the apotheoses of their respective mediums.
>It's probably the best anime to have ever been made
Jesus Christ, people really need to stop saying this and actually watch the series itself.
It's incredibly flawed and has plenty of poor writing, its visual direction is horrifically bland and derivative, and its battle sequences are insufferably sloppy and outright poor.
If anything, it's an example of what not to translate into animation. It's definitely a good show (if only for the great characters that are mistreated by being put into such a mediocre production), but the pinnacle of anime?God fucking no.
The type of users that poster identified are not the same as the NEETs or average joes that have always been on 4chan in coexistence. Normalfaggotry has been actively discouraged because it is the complete opposite of everything that the board stands for. It's not a blanket term used to describe anybody that leaves their room or has a job, it's a label for shitty people that subscribe to shitty mentalities such as putting 'getting laid' on a pedestal or looking down on anything and anyone that are not considered normal or socially acceptable. These people have no reason to be on /a/ of all places and are rightfully issued a resounding 'fuck off'.
The autistic NEETs being referred to that are the problem are the diaper shitting, single digit IQ, mental degenerates who have seeped in over the years that get overly sensitive and blow up every time some idiot brings up their job, friends, or the fact that they leave their basement. Instead of ignoring and reporting their off-topic posts, they respond by shitposting relentlessly with frogs and outbursts about 'normies' that cause entire threads to devolve into pointless shitflinging that has nothing to do with anime or manga. It's far from being the only thing decreasing the quality of the board, but it's something that is clearly apparent.
Are you fucking serious?
There are plenty of cliches.
It's a totally great movie, but it reuses all sorts of ideas. The fact that the little bitch escapes the horrible witchland brothel at all, while being helped by the staff, is a cliche in itself.
>still thinking that anime has any sort of artistic or intellectual merit
Anime is only good as brainless entertainment and can never hope to match Western cinema or literature in terms of worth.
What, 300+ series not counting movies and OVA series isn't enough to learn that anime is terrible when it comes to drama?
Oh, right, I forget that most of you are completely unfamiliar with any sort of storytelling outside of anime or manga.
>US has a lot more variety when it comes to entertainment styles and writing than Japan has ever had.
If that were actually true I'd be watching more US shows anon but here I am struggling to find new stuff to pick up from their line ups while anime and manga chip away at my bandwidth quota like it ain't no thing. Last new show that grabbed my attention was Galavant and that was a scant 8 episodes with little hope of renewal.
Komeiji pls, I see you hiding under there without a trip.
Please, tell us all about how you're a seasoned critic of superior mediums and how amazing visual novels are the pinnacle of Japanese entertainment.
But I think visual novels are utter shit.
It's incredible that you think there can't be more than one person that recognizes that anime sucks at drama.
>No anime can be good! It all has to be shit like mine!
>mfw all the autists are averse to the classic drama genre of tragedy because they are incapable of feeling
Seriously guys, I know you'd rather have your sexual dysfunction catered to with fan service or gawp at wicked awesome fights, but melodrama is a legit branch of storytelling, perhaps the most so as it addresses human problems of how fundamentally crap everything is.
It's bad enough that the western world no longer produces good melodrama, now you want to try and foist that degenerate view on eastern media as well?
You're missing the cause and effect. I like anime and manga more than american stuff because there's a much wider variety of stories to be had from the japanese side. American tv does have some really nice gems popping up once in a while but the majority of it consists of subpar dramas, procedurals and sitcoms that can't seem to help but recycle premises until they land good enough casts and production crews that let them live for more than a single season.
You're a silly man Komeiji.
Most of the English speaking people here will have lived in the western world and been exposed to a ton of it's media before having been exposed to anime and manga some time in their early adolescence. They have plenty of experience with western media and so a decent point of comparison with anime and manga.
Name one Hollywood blockbuster in the past year that can be said to have any sort of artistic or intellectual merit.
Hell, at least the better animes have artistically interesting visual design and unorthodox story from a western standpoint. Western cinema has degenerated a very great deal since the golden era of the 70s/80s/90s when we still produced popular work with artistic integrity.
>there are people on /a/ RIGHT NOW who actually cry at anime
Don't tell me that I share this board with effeminate 15 year old fags and women.
Why are you here?
Is it some kind of autosadism?
The only anime to ever make me cry was Gunbuster
No, the people who take anime seriously and think that it's a valid medium are the reason why everyone hate anime fans.
This kind of attitude is why both anime and anime fans are hated and despised even in Japan.
>Anime isn't and can never be art.
I'm pretty sure you either don't know the definition of art or are retarded
>it can never measure up to Western cinema, television, cartoons or literature.
If you fags keep having this pessimistic attitude it won't
>unironically thinking that anime can have artistic or intellectual merit
>thinks he's not autistic
>unironically watching Lain, Eva, Texhnolyze, Kino no Tabi or other pretentious fedoracore anime
>this guy doesn't watch my retarded moeblob shit but Anime with light philosophy topics
>better call him fedora xD
Jesus fucking Christ, kill yourself, not everyone is a fucktard shit eating manchild like you
>actually defending your memecore fedora anime
>using the vee buzzword
Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself.
I hope none of you are serious and that you're just going through the motions/ironically replying to bait.
>ctrl f /v/
>1 of 10 matches
LE /v/ BOOGEYMAN!
Quit blaming this one on /v/ and realize that /a/ also has bad quality posters.
My Top 5 Manga (in no particular order)
r8, h8, masturb8
I know this is bait but fuck me anyways.
>Anime isn't and can never be art.
Stop thinking that art for definition must be something good.
Great, now you are just falling for the true scotchman here.
Has everyone already forgotten moot-sama's final wish for us to be accepting of cross-boarders?
You know what I hate? Normalfags. They shit up this board with their stupid normalfag shit like talking about shows I don't like and not understanding my epic memes. Normalfags need to die. I've been here all summer and they're such a nuisance.
That's the joke retard.
Keep replying to the faggot who thinks he knows what sage is for.
I don't know, /v/ is pretty much famous for "arguing" with opinions and buzzwords.
Hey /v/ I just finished season 1 of Knights of Cydonia on Netflix. anything similar you guys can recommend?
No.122466854 ▶>>122466879 >>122466984
>That's the joke retard.
>Keep replying to the faggot who thinks he knows what sage is for.
>I don't know, /v/ is pretty much famous for "arguing" with opinions and buzzwords.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:30:30 No.122466870 ▶
>>>122454604 (OP) #
>So much cancer in a single thread, Jesus Christ.
>I wish I could permaban you all.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:30:46 No.122466879 ▶>>122467000
>>I don't know, /v/ is pretty much famous for "arguing" with opinions and buzzwords.
>Sounds like that one other board I forgot the name of.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:31:05 No.122466892 ▶
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:32:02 No.122466921 ▶>>122466973
>>I don't know, /v/ is pretty much famous for "arguing" with opinions and buzzwords.
>That's this whole site you dunce
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:32:39 No.122466938 ▶>>122466973
>>neo-/a/ doesn't realize anime is all trash and we only watch it ironically
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:34:06 No.122466973 ▶
>You haven't been on /a/ much then. Just look at >>122466938 # and tell me he isn't just shitposting or that he's actually is from /v/.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:34:27 No.122466984 ▶
>It's not like I have anything else to do, and I'm not bumping the thread so
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:34:53 No.122467000 ▶
>How you you forget the name of the board you're on?
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:35:05 No.122467007 ▶
>File: Izana_Shinatose.jpg (70 KB, 350x565)
>Hey /v/ I just finished season 1 of Knights of Cydonia on Netflix. anything similar you guys can recommend?
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:35:58 No.122467026 ▶
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:37:29 No.122467058 ▶
>>all these newfags that think anime is good
>Fuck off to reddit, weebs.
>> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:32:39 No.122466938 ▶>>122466973 #
>>>neo-/a/ doesn't realize anime is all trash and we only watch it ironically
>> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:34:06 No.122466973 ▶
>>>>122466921 # #
>>You haven't been on /a/ much then. Just look at >>122466938 # # and tell me he isn't just shitposting or that he's actually is from /v/.
>> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:34:27 No.122466984 ▶
>>>>122466854 # #
>>It's not like I have anything else to do, and I'm not bumping the thread so
>> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:34:53 No.122467000 ▶
>>>>122466879 # #
>>How you you forget the name of the board you're on?
>> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:35:05 No.122467007 ▶
>>File: Izana_Shinatose.jpg (70 KB, 350x565)
>>Hey /v/ I just finished season 1 of Knights of Cydonia on Netflix. anything similar you guys can recommend?
>> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:35:58 No.122467026 ▶
>>>>122463331 # #
>> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:37:29 No.122467058 ▶
>>>all these newfags that think anime is good
>>Fuck off to reddit, weebs.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:39:26 No.122467113 ▶
>Japs are inherently incompetent at storytelling, which is why we only appreciate the ones that rightfully give up and just make cute shit.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:39:35 No.122467117 ▶
>Fuck off to reddit faggot
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:40:12 No.122467132 ▶
>Please, please tell me everyone in this thread is just trolling.
>Anyway, check EM
Nice singles but check mine..
Any good anime for Muslims?
So I finally told my parents about this and it felt really good and I felt like I would share with you guys. I was in a huge, spiraling depression. I had undiagnosed bipolar disorder and felt like there was no way out. I had seen the basic adult swim anime when I was growing up, but never got into it because of the stereotypes.
About three years ago I reached rock bottom, and was really ready to kill myself. That's when I started watching anime because of an old roommate who watched a bit. FMA:Brotherhood was great to start, but it was only temporary entertainment. Then I watched Clannad and Clannad Afterstory. For the first time in the longest time I cried, and I cried a lot. After the last episode I just laid in bed staring at the ceiling, and I realized that I wanted to live. I know that sounds cliche, but it's truly how I felt.
I can't really explain it too well, but Clannad and anime as a whole really saved my life. I went to a doctor, got diagnosed, and have never felt better. My parents always wondered why I love anime so much and I could never really come up with a good answer. I would say "I just like it I guess, it appeals to my taste and the medium is really interesting". But I've come to realize that it is much more than that.
I would also like to thank all of you, not just the people of reddit, but everyone that I can discuss the hobby with. I know this is a mindless rant, and maybe even posts like this aren't allowed, but I just really wanted to share.
I live in Philadelphia and despite the fact that it's many miles from where James lives I see him there every day on my way home from work.
Each day I have to pass through this really shitty area of the city to get home and each time I go through there I see James sitting on the side of the road surrounded by empty bottles of whiskey and beer outside of some shitty bar. A few times I've pulled up really slow next to him to see if he's alright, I only ever do this when he's covered in vomit or blood, a few times he's sworn at me, thrown his retarded kid at my car and lashed out at me.
However recently I pulled up whilst James was vomiting onto his down's syndrome kids' face and I noticed him mumbling something about "fucking monkey fucking cowa fucking piece dog shit wife of mine", I was confused about what he meant and left his child to drown in James' vomit.
A block or two away I see James' wife getting pounded by 5 black men in the fucking open surrounded by 20 or 30 people as they all laugh at a picture of James which one of the men has stuck his dick through, I see his wife take more semen than an aircraft carrier and throw up outside my car.
James then staggers along the road with his pants around his ankles, dragging his kid along the floor and slurring everything he says. He then decides to swing for his wife who dodges him like some kind of fucking Navy SEAL and flattens James with one punch, who lands flat on his kid and crushes its face.
After the nigger fucking crew have moved to another block for their fun, I get out the car and take James' phone out of his pocket. I manage to ring Mike who is saved as "Guy number 15 who fucks my wife", I will note that Mike was pretty high up this list too, I then call Mike who turns up half hour later and throws James and his unconscious child in the back of his pickup. Mike doesn't say a fucking word and I get to keep James' phone. As he drives off Mike just shouts "MINECRAP MINECRAP" over and over.
muslims are historically lolicons, right? the japs got you covered
>mfw /a/ is the 'chanz collective fuckboi
Get rekt, fags.
Now that we've decided that anime is shit and we only watch it ironically, can we start talking about how Japan hates all white people, Japanase people depise all anime and wish it was never associated with their country, and how Japan is a 3rd world shithole?
They just hate people who take the medium seriously and not a pointless time waster
It's sad, the longer I'm on /a/ the less fun it becomes. I don't know if I'm jaded or this place is actually getting worse. The more I watch the more I see most of the fucks on here as casuals and normalfags who don't actually think for more than a half a second about what they watch and simply parrot ideas they were given in hug box threads on this board. It's depressing, disgusting, and on a whole killing my love of the one place I can have legitimate discussion of anime.
I don't know what's wrong, I don't know if it's me. I just want old /a/ back. I just want you fucks to not be a crudely done parody of yourselves, because each passing season it's like I'm looking at the threads through increasingly distorted funhouse mirrors.
This isn't what we were, this isn't what we should be.
Fuck off redditweeb.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. All that happens now is parroting of concepts that have next to no relevance to the posts they're connected to. Half the community has ceased having their own thoughts and half take this board way too seriously.
>File: tumblr_nix01wsu9P1u9o7gzo1_400.gif (1.55 MB, 371x209)
>Fuck off redditweeb.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:57:36 No.122467586 ▶
>File: Spoiler Image (43 KB, 319x310)
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:58:49 No.122467629 ▶>>122467673
>>>122454604 (OP) #
>Kinda wish this anime was set in college, at least high school
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:59:26 No.122467646 ▶
>Fuck off to tumblr
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)11:59:59 No.122467661 ▶>>122467732 >>122467758
>>anonymous imageboards, serious business
>fuck off fag
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)12:00:27 No.122467673 ▶>>122467714
>Watch Nodame Cantabile then
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)12:00:46 No.122467688 ▶
>Degenerate is a word that has been used in fan translations since time immemorium
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)12:01:06 No.122467694 ▶
>it's much worse than a meme
>just like what you like and stop letting other people decide your opinions for you
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)12:02:02 No.122467714 ▶
>isn't the drama better
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)12:02:33 No.122467732 ▶
>See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. All that happens now is parroting of concepts that have next to no relevance to the posts they're connected to. Half the community has ceased having their own thoughts and half take this board way too seriously.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)12:03:41 No.122467758 ▶
>You're what's wrong with this palce
no u faggot
You have to be trying to do this. You can't in any way be serious.
Cry me a river.
You should have grown out of caring about this shithole and realised that everything that happens here is completely irrelevant by the time you turned 18.
All my normalfag friends who watch anime only watch shounen. Yet they always complain that they can't find a new anime to watch. I don't see why anyone would limit themselves to one genre.
They don't give anime a try if it is a melodrama or SoL. Most of my favorites all fall under those categories though. They don't know what they are missing.
>everything that happens here is completely irrelevant by the time you turned 18.
This websites is prefaced with you having to be OLDER than 18. Fucking shit. I can't handle these people.
>was 15 in 2003
Even so, you're not even trying to say anything at this point, you're not even trolling, you're just spewing an endless stream of shit trying to make the experience worse. This is some of the most low quality attempts to get someone angry I've ever seen, it's not even your content that's gotten me buttflustered, but your inability to actually craft something approaching actually infuriating.
>It's hilarious how moetards who watch the same cookie cutter shit over rand over think they have better taste than average shounen fag.
Yea my post about not limiting myself to one genre clearly means I watch "the same cookie cutter shit over and over"
fuck off faggot
>le 4chan is for underaged face
No really, this website assumes you're over 18, just leave if you're under 18. You're not wanted by the community, you just make the experience worse.
What's the point of actively trying to detract from discussion of series? Why do it?
I would be way too embarassed to save this picture on my computer. There's no way you have a life.
Melodrama is highly manipulative and thus the feelings you get at the end of it all feels highly unrewarding and inauthentic.
It;s the reason why the punch at the end of say Chuunibyou does not compare to the one at the end of Hyouka.
>Implying anyone even wants to be in the same room as /r9k/
Because if you're being ironic and sacrastic, then that means there's zero conviction and so nobody can criticize you.
This murders any attempts at online discussion, especially on 4chan.
>People can't be that insecure
look around you m8
look where we are on a glorious Friday afternoon
I kind of understand why people would want to hide their feelings or thoughts IRL because there's ego and public image involved but here?Really?I can antagonize everyone here now and then be friendly in the next thread and no one would see any difference because my posts are not attached to a fixed image or persona.
The nature of the site allows and strongly encourages sincere posts,many people here already hide their feelings and power levels in real life constantly(which is fine in terms but i honestly think that you should not feel ashamed or guilty because of your tastes,hobbies or thoughts and i'm sure many anons here feel that way)and there's literally no need for them to do the same thing here,it's actually incredibly stupid to try to pretend in 4chan or any anonymous place in the internet.
>Lack of original thoughts and lack of sincerity
I blame the hivemind
/v/ here. I find your guys' true Scotsman syndrome hilarious. Any posts you don't like are automatically blamed on one of us or someone from another anime site. You can't fathom the idea that YOUR community might be full of retards.
Our board is shit, but at least we are self-aware enough to accept that it's our shit.
Enjoy all the new kids, you completely deserve it.
>he's expecting mods to sit here instead of slaying pussy in the clubs
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:20:33 No.122470096 ▶>>122470170 >>122470177 >>122470227 >>122470263
>File: 18qg4nx5anhnrjpg.jpg (17 KB, 256x352)
>/v/ here. I find your guys' true Scotsman syndrome hilarious. Any posts you don't like are automatically blamed on one of us or someone from another anime site. You can't fathom the idea that YOUR community might be full of retards.
>Our board is shit, but at least we are self-aware enough to accept that it's our shit.
>Enjoy all the new kids, you completely deserve it.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:23:08 No.122470170 ▶
>>>122470096 (You) #
>Get rid of console wars, /pol/ and e-celeb shit and I might respect you
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:23:22 No.122470177 ▶
>>>122470096 (You) #
>honestly /v/ is only worse than /a/ because of the size,it's impossible to have any kind of quality control with the ridiciolous amount of people that /v/ has
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:24:23 No.122470207 ▶
>>>122454604 (OP) #
>Normies love clannad.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:25:09 No.122470227 ▶>>122470321
>>>122470096 (You) #
>>but at least we are self-aware enough to accept that it's our shit.
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:26:21 No.122470263 ▶>>122470321 >>122470402
>>>122470096 (You) #
>>but at least we are self-aware enough to accept that it's our shit.
>the majority of you idiots still think gg isn't chanology v 2.0
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:28:05 No.122470321 ▶
>/a/ lacks the slightest bit of self-awareness, they actually think their board is still good
>most people have fucked off to other chan already
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:30:19 No.122470402 ▶
> Anonymous 03/13/15(Fri)13:31:37 No.122470447 ▶
>Why is this thread still not deleted?
>Why is this thread still no on autosage?
>Where are mods and janitors?
Mods love watching cognitive dissonance unfold. It's always NEETfags versus everyone else.
There's always one self-proclaimed true /a/non who has to annoy absolutely everyone with his shitty blame-shifting and holier-than-thou attitude whenever /a/ embraces new trends and memes.
Get to fuck faglord.
No need to start calling people names, anon.
>Woman are LE EVIL
Where did i said that,little faggot?Slaying pussy is the same as hating women now?Grow a pair of balls kid,you're the one who look like a pathetic beta virgin here trying to defend le woman integrity
>EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS LE NORMALFAG XDXD
Oh fuck off.
Fuck off, you piece of shit.
Just fucking slit your wrists and die. It's these kinds of shitposts that bring down the whole board.
We don't want cancerous faggots here who try to paint everyone with a different opinion as "TEH NORMIES", no matter how nonsensical saying so is.
On the whole, "normal" people watch drama and tragedy about 10 times as much as the average /a/non and Japanese otaku.
Nobody likes self-obsessed frustrated virgin losers, even on 4chan.
They've been slowly killing this site.
Kaoru is a miracle of the universe.
>I'm already a sensitive person so I cry very easily IRL as well and yes that can be an issue. Like yes, when I was new to 4chan I cried a lot when I got called names but not as much now.
Can't argue with that.
The ending scene of the AVGN movie showed the nerdy girl character (played by his wife) kissing the token black character. James' initial expression was that of shock, but then it turned into satisfaction.
He's a dirty cuck.