snail > monkey > crab > cat > snake > bat
that's the order, only for bake and nothing else
based on actually being a good character and not sex appeal
Considering how important Shinobu is to the story saying you don't like her character is the same as saying you hate Monogatari.
In other words OP is a faggot.
>tries to judge characters based on progression without finishing the series
OP is a faggot.
Not everyone has been following Monogatari for years. If this was ledouche or kevin, or whoever watched Bake a year ago and nothing else, yet tries to post in threads I would be pissed. I'll give this anon the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was so hyped after Bake that he felt the need to make a thread about it before going on to Nise. I don't want people posting pictures of Shinobu and calling him a faggot because that might impede his coming realization that she is best girl.
Well his taste is actually mostly okay, he just needs to learn some grammar. He didn't rank Crab very high which actually makes him better than the more insufferable Bake nostalgiafags that claim the date as the highest point of the series.
Get your tripfags right. I love Monogatari.
Crab > Snail > Bat > Bee > Monkey > Bird > Doll > Cat >>> shit >>> Snake
>Anyone before Snail.
Just because you say 'muh opinions' doesn't mean you get to speak for all of /a/. Don't think that a fake bid at being a majority opinion makes your nostalgiafagging any more tolerable either.
I know I'm late to the party here but I just watched bake for the first time after putting it off for quite a while. I enjoyed it quite a bit. I want to watch the rest of the series but the problem is I hate crab. Every time she shows up she just infuriates me. Her entire charatcer and her relationship with araragi seems so forced and unnatural. I hate her so much that she almost single-handedly ruins the show, and makes me consider not continuing with the series. Could someone tell me: Does she become less prevelant in the later series? Or better yet, get killed off or something?
I'm pretty sure it's established law that makes Snail best girl.
>People still not understanding Crab's character.
I understand her character. She's an insecure teenage girl who was abrasive in order to control situations, but now has opened up and mostly moved on from her past, thus becoming kinder to those around her. I just don't find her interesting any more because all of the fire she had before is gone when she's in the same room as Araragi. It's like watching a cool friend get a girl and then become completely whipped.
>She's just a boring tsundere.
It's funny you say this, but...
Do you like Cat? This is going to be important for the next season.
>She's boring to watch when she puts her perfect girl mask on
Nobody cared who she was until she put on the mask.
I've been wondering, was Kaiki being struck down by one of this middle-schooler victims at the end of Koimonogatari a lie he told to give the story a sense of "you got what you deserved"? Considering it looked like he went out, but he returns alive and well in Hanamonogatari?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. He did after all begin the story by saying that she would be telling a story he couldn't guarantee the legitimacy of, only it's quality...and that it would be full of truths and lies
so Kaiki being beaten down in the end must have been a lie to give the sense of "getting what he deserved" he mentioned in the beginning of the story
she's stabbed a crowbar right through his bed trying to wake him up because she thought it would be cute, she's stomped on his foot hard enough to break his bones, she's punched and headbutted him, she runs to grab the kitchen knife in attempt to kill him whenever she sees him in an immoral situation
I bet you think Araragi actually had a DBZ fight with Karen too.
Tsukihi is a brat who throws stupid tantrums and makes threats of violence. Araragi exaggerates them for comedic/storytelling purposes. Whenever he actually needs her to calm down and/or shut up, he can get her to do so pretty easily.
inb4 biased for you're waifu. I'm a batfag.
I'm sad she turned out to be a shit character.
isn't snake saved by the end of koimonogatari though?
yeah she's been batshit insane up to that point and obsessed with ararararagi for all the wrong reasons, but in the conclusions she seems to have come to terms with that and instead decided to try and be a manga artist
>Snail is gone and isn't coming back
My pain is constant and sharp, and I do not hope for a better world for anyone
>Koyomi casually playing with Snail's breast and talk dirty about her
I was shocked in that episode
why did it have to be this way!!!
Snake belongs in your spoiler.
Other than that, 10/10 taste.
If we're talking about interesting characters then it goes
Senjougahara = Hanekawa > Kaiki = Kanbaru > Nadeko = Shinobu > Karen = Koyomi = Meme > Yotsugi >Tsukihi
I'm not entirely sure where to put Doll's onee-san.
The gap between the first two sets of = isn't all to large.
Black Hanekawa is very interesting by contrast though.
Why is Karen so pale when she stays out running in the sun every day? Why is Koyomi almost a shitskin by comparison?
Her prother is a vampire. Her sister can't get tanned. It's genetic, or may be because of colgate's sponsoring.
When Karen grows up she'll pretty much look like that.
Though. We haven't seen a full picture of Mamaragi so we don't have a reference for that.
I think she looks fine in that one, the gatari girls are usually drawn in a stylized slender style but I like some nice hips.
>you will never feel the bone crushing hug of the fire sisters combo
Not this shit again.
I feel really torn about Gahara currently, I just hate the loss of confidence, like when Hanekawa threatened her she'd ask Araragi out.
After season 1 she fell off, Fire sisters showed up, Hanekawa became more complex but not likeable and we got more Shinobu.
>loss of confidence
She never had confidence to begin with, it's just that the persona she built up starts to go away in Nise.
Same with Hanekawa, she was always complex, but you don't hear her side of things until Neko Shiro.
Yeah that's true. In the end Senjougahara is mentally better and acts like a normal girl and doesn't have a place interacting with oddities.
I do miss the banter a lot though.
I like the idea of Hanekawa separating her "rotten feelings" from herself as oddities so she stays pure.
Yotsugi gets barely any explaining or screentime where she's having a conversation. Her motives, emotions or past aren't very clear at all. But I'm feeling iffy on that statement so I might have to rewatch Tsuki.
She does it for the comedic effect.
If not Karen would have been dead after toothbrush scene. Araragi would regen.
In the novels Hanekawa describes her brain as a computer hard drive, but she never realized it until Neko Shiro.
The reason she's so excellent at everything but kind of a sociopath is because she's always been able to partition away anything she doesn't want to feel or think about. Basically she's always had a huge organizational advantage over other people in life.
Pretty interesting in my book.
>BAT, KAIKEI AND ALL ARARAGIS A BEST
>EVERYONE ELSE A SHIT
search your soul, you know it to be true
Get that weaksauce shit out of here, son.
>HE HAS THE MUSCLES
>HE HAS THE FACE
>THIS MAN, HE KNOWS NO DISGRACE
What's the point of posting that pic without the subs?
Snail > Bat > Crab > Monkey > Cat > Bird
They are great characters in my book. I see them as equal, a good companion(Bat is greatest) of Araragi and also capable of being a great conversation partner.
Worst are Snake
,her OPs are bestand Bee.
>Not even able to sleep with the girl he loves.
He's not even close to being best boy unlike pic related who basically won at life.
He asks Shinobu for whatever Oshino told her about every time some new shit came along, his plan to fix shit usually means "die, but survive because I'm a vampire" and he used those powers too often and is becoming more vampire due to it.
Pretty far from perfect.
And that's just my filth anime only knowledge
>implying I want bat to have sex with the generic otaku self-insert
I'm glad your otaku self-insert harem MC had sex with the generic main girl and thus your wish fulfillment was completed.
Is that better?
The moment I start liking one girl more than the other, another one takes the show.
How can people even rank the Gataris?
Seems Shinobu took to heart what Kanbaru said.
The only thing that is making crab not as good as initially is that she seems to be not only getting no screen time, but she seems to becoming more of a generic character. She was still the best in Bake by far though along with Snail.
Monkey's more considerate, she want's to be hugged by loli's not force hugs on them.
They kind of debunk her deposition being why she is so good even if she did indeed have that advantage. Because she is pretty much as good as she was before when she is "fixed", just now she is ready to take people to the toolshed if need be, see her commentary with Ougi. Remember, her inner thoughts were that she wanted to get along with her parents.
Outing them socially, getting them arrested for neglect, and ruining their reputation was certainly something she could have done with her intellect, but that wouldn't get her wish, which was to be accepted, despite the fact she wasn't their child, and for her talent. They make it plain that her becoming a family with them was impossible.
She was literally just cursed to be awesome, and the story goes at length to say she will have to accept that.
It's objectively true that she's become a less interesting character. That is the point of her character progression - sometimes becoming happy means becoming less interesting. It's a somewhat realistic take on her situation.
If you listen to the commentaries, Ougi says she prefers the old Senjougahara too.
It's not like her personality is 100% gone, though. She's still pretty good in Neko White.
Kanbaru get's SHAFTEd at every turn.
She just deals with it because she's not a little bitch.
I'm sure there are lolis in the future who will hug her.
Like her kids. Monkey best mother.
>sometimes becoming happy means becoming less interesting
Didn't Kaiki pretty much say that word for word in Nise.
He starts shit-talking Senjougahara about how she's become so boring because she's so normal and that he liked her previous self better.
>He starts shit-talking Senjougahara about how she's become so boring because she's so normal and that he liked her previous self better.
It's like Nisio knows what all the haters are going to be saying before they say it.
> Like her kids. Monkey best mother.
Was not expecting that to go in that direction. That's actually sorta heartwarming.
I wonder if she's going to turn out like Tooe and be socially awkward yet loving/self-sacrificing.
I have no opinion on Kanbaru's waifu status.
Yep, it's the exact opposite of Kaiki's philosophy. Like people keep saying in Nise, he's chosen to be unhappy in order to continue being who he is.
He says something to this effect to Snake as well - like, "the point of life isn't to become happy, but to become what you want to be."
NisiO knows everything, there's not a thing he doesn't know.
I just wonder what's that about
her trying to more like Hanekawa in the later novels. I mean I get it that visually Hanekawa was RRRG's ideal woman, but I dislike that lack of confidence from Gahara.
Hell there is a reason why she won and he didn't break up with her.
I don't think Araragi is staying with her just because he'd hurt her by breaking up, though that would be interesting to explore. I wish I could read the novels.
I wouldn't call it confidence as much as a sense of authority. She wasn't some roll-over girl, but at the same time wasn't a girl with zero reason to act Tsun-Tsun. Praise Senjyogaharara
What will all the gataris do once they figure out there is no better man that manaragi and they won't accept getting injected with sperm from anyone else but him?
But Crab won't allow it.
Yeah...well, you don't know anything!
I'd nearly agree given your only other options are basically Senjougahara and Hanekawa and while Senjougahara might be aight, Hanekawa would be a bit weird given her experiences with parents is less than normal.
That's fine. I don't disagree with your opinion. Just posting out the alternatives.
Though Adult Snail has shown she'd be a good parent. She was ready to take on the responsibility of taking care of a loli and a teenager with no doubts.
Also one day I'd like to see Milf Snail be like "Ara ara gi"
Is Doll the one with the posed look or am I retarded?
Yes I'm leaving the exorcists out, and if it is her then I'm leaving her out too.
I guess monkey is somewhat better than snake, I hope that's what you wanted to hear. I'll adjust my list a bit
New improved ranking
Crab > Bat > Snail > Cat = Bird > Bee > Monkey > Snake
>Doll a meh anyway.
Why don't you just fuck right off?
Slow your roll, buddy. It's fine to like monkey but you don't need to force your like on someone else.
Unless this is a false flag in which case, go for a walk and reconsider your life's choices.
Here's the correct taste:
Crab > Monkey > Bat > Bee > Snail > Phoenix >>> Ougi > Cat > Snake > Doll
monkey and snail will never have a conversation why even live
Talk shit, get hit, I said with a posed look.
Also I find her meh, she's not Snake-tier but she's not particularly good in my opinion.
Her best moments has just been URB-ing Tsukihi and showing that there are people out there who don't fuck around and her URB-ing Tadatsuru and fulfilling his last wish/
following Gaen's plan.
>How can people even rank the Gataris?
Easy. First step is to put crab, the worst girl, at the bottom of the list. Now you just have to listen to your dick to rank them by how much you want to fuck them. For example if you're a pedo you'll put nobuemon first, and don't forget to forget the girls you don't think much about.
For example here is my list :
Pussy > lost cow > blood demon > homosexual bonobo > rozen maiden > snake rape = yandere imouto > too tall imouto > karate master > Crab
>I'm fine with monkey being unappreciated and halfway down most lists
Obviously not because of such a strong reaction you're giving.
People are allowed to have opinions different to yours and they are equally valid most of the time presuming it's not just shit posting.
This is why people are starting to hate Kanbarufans. Because one or two of us are blowing this shit out of proportion trying to impose Monkey on other people instead of just letting her be Fandom-wide mid-tier and enjoying the relative non-shitposting that came with that position.
You don't need to respond to every post that paints monkey unfavourably.
>people completely ignoring Ougi in their lists
Wow, I'm offended now. I know she isn't very popular, but she still deserves to be listed.
>Inb4 not a girl
Read the LN's, faggots.
Hanekawa basically has all the information and feeling on what NOT to do as a parent, she can't be much worse. She pretty much taught everything you are supposed to teach a child by just reading and doing. She'll be fine.
There was a reason she gets the nickname Basa-nee. And why when Kaiki analyzes her, he notes this distinct air of maturity and humility that doesn't fit someone her age.
She'll probably be taking care of some orphans as part of that humanitarian relief organization, too, so she should have the most experience.
Pic related, it's Milf Basa.
We are on an website dedicated to Korean shadow puppetry arguing about which fictional girl we would most like to fuck, or if we're really sophisticated, which has the best personality.
We have chosen to spend our only lives this way.
It's because Ougi doesn't have a fun nickname like Devil.
You KyotoryuOugifags should get right on that.
hopefully monkey visits snail once she comes back
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
I agree with you though
she will have to settle with having a giant house, tons of manga to read, being super popular at school and have a hot body. Life aint fair!
I'd probably put Doll on the same level as Snake. Then again I haven't seen her much so far, maybe she gets better.
Well I do agree that I should on second though put Monkey above Bee if that makes you feel better. Monkey's kinda funny but that's about it. To make you feel better, the gap between Monkey and Snake is pretty big.
I'm having a really hard time ordering them anyways, the only things I'm really sure of is that Crab > Bat > * and * > Snake
Good tastes but what's Bee's appeal, really?
Point me to the part where there's something bad about that.
I still think it's better than the people who do an office job, doing something that they don't even enjoy doing while not really accomplishing much more in life than we are.
At least you don't have Snake close to Monkey, so you won't upset that guy.
This. I don't even like tsunderes but Crab is a miracle. She's such a miracle in fact that she almost makes me want to better me life to get into heaven so I can thank Jesus for her personally.
You sure about that? She is loaded, has good talent for sports, and even if her grandparents were against her parents getting together, fervently want her to be happy. There are kids in the show who would give their left legs for that.
Hey it's not like you get the second two things on a silver platter. She worked for them because even though life shafted her she didn't become a self pitying emo.
Although it was close at times.
I don't think Doll gets better but that's me. You might have a different opinion on it.
> I still think it's better than the people who do an office job, doing something that they don't even enjoy doing while not really accomplishing much more in life than we are.
Joke's on you, faggot, I do work in an office.
I really dislike the fact that Senjougahara is enjoying getting NTR
people really are blowing snake out of proportion
though she definitely deserves the placement as worse girl, she is still not shit
no girl in this show is shit, all girls are perfectly lovable, just some of them more than others
people barely knew doll existed before last season, just wait until she eventually gets more screentime before she can properly be elected into the best girls and snake list
You know it.
Crazies like her and cat definitely deserve it. Snake was okay before going full yandre though. Never liked cat, just a quiet character with DID.
I liked Snake a lot post yandere and I assume she returned to her old self while having learned to distance herself from rararagi after Kaiki convinces her to step down as a snake god. I don't see a point in hating her anymore after that, she's not longer pretending to be in love with Araragi or planning to kill anyone
regular tsubasa is just too plain, crab even makes it a point of her tastes being as plain as brown paper bags. on top of all this, her stance on tolerating her parents behavior and coming up with excuses for them disgusts me as much as it disgusted araragi
crab is alright but I'm not very fond of tsunderes and no ass
She's still got psychological issues. Her 'normal' was being completely closed off to everyone except Araragi and taking advantage of her looks to get what she wants.
Even though she really didn't want that. Not a bad character, shit girl though.
Is this your first encounter with a monkey-fag?
They are super combative/argumentative and extremely prolific in their responses because they know Kanbaru is on the low end of the majority of people's lists.
They are like chihuahua's with their impotent fury.