Why is Fate Stay Night still so popular when it's badly outclassed by a ton of other VNs, AND when the anime adaptations are worse than the source? Is the anime just banking its success off Fate/Zero?
Poor little people who will never experience Dies Irae or Muramasa
>No VN will ever make a track better than or with more hype than EMIYA
Because Nasu is good at world-building and most of the characters are waifu/husbando material. Have you even read F/SN or any other VN that "badly outclasses" for that matter?
> or any other VN that "badly outclasses" for that matter?
Blown the FUCK out newfag.
And many others
It's not like i disagree on what you mean, but that logic doesn't work much here.
Fate (and TM as whole) is probably even more popular in Japan than among westerns that can't read other VNs.
It's popular with niwaka sure, like Bleach and Naruto are popular with people who call themselves "anime fans" in the west despite having only watched like 5 shits.
Lowest common denominator is universal
Popularity and quality rarely goes hand in hand, regardless of the medium and public.
That's just how entertainment of any kind works, deal with it.
Here is a very interesting post of a guy who probably read less than 10 VNs and spend his days sperging about FSN and therefore is 100% that no VNs among the thousands out there could surpass it
-It's available in English
-Subject matter (battle royale with heroes from across the world) resonates with chu2s everywhere.
-Multiple anime adaptations
What really gets me is how TMfags will brag about having read a 40 hour VN that's been fully translated for half a decade like it's some kind of accomplishment. I'm not the kind that would go so far as to call others EOP's or the like but it really just goes to show that everyone feels the need to look down on someone.
It's people like >>122706537
that can count the number of VNs they've read on two hands that somehow feel like their opinion is worth voicing.
People would have forgotten about it if not for the recent anime adaptations. Aniplex made the KnK adaptation possible and that gave the chance for F/Z.
Seems like there is no stopping this train until everything worthwhile is adapted. I don't really give a shit about TM but maybe Aniplex could consider adapting other VNs, there is a ton of shit worth looking into.
>Why is Fate Stay Night still so popular
Probably because it's so different from most VNs:
✓ It and its fandisk are available in English and are easy to find and run.
✓ Has two anime adaptions plus a prequel anime that appeals to secondaries.
✓ The focus of the story is the battle royale and not dying in horrifying ways rather than romancing a pwetty lady.
✓ There's only 3 routes that need to be read in order rather than like 6 routes that can be read in any order. This allows a solid beginning-middle-end for how the reader experience the meta-story of each route.
✓ To reiterate, it's not haremshit unlike most VNs.
✓ It appeals to both genders with its characters. So it gets both otaku and fujoshi money and interest.
I don't know that many VNs that have 40 dead ends with an incentive to seek them out.
It's the strength of the main character and how you see in the 3 routes that you have to go through in order challenge him:
By far the most boring route because most of it is exposition and Shirou being a chauvinist towards Saber because he cares for her. In the end Shirou and his ideals aren't really challenged.
>Unlimited Blade Works
We get to see Shirou for the mad person he is for the first time and see him and Rin put in a really desperate situation. But ultimately, Shirou wins out.
Everything goes to shit. We get to see why Shirou would give up his dream of being a hero and what he's willing to sacrifice for those he loves.
>Usually most VNs have a reward for getting all ending yeah
Yes, they usually do. For finding all the Good Ends or getting to the Golden Ending
But almost none of have a reward for finding all the Bad Ends or Dead Ends.
I bet you can't even name five VNs that do.
>✓ It appeals to both genders with its characters. So it gets both otaku and fujoshi money and interest.
No wonder Archer and Gilgamesh are so high in the Type Moon popularity polls.
Too bad Shirou's harem isn't the focus of all routes.
In the first two routes Sakura bows out after, what, like a third into the story?
And in the latter two, Saber also exits the harem after maybe halfway through the story?
I'm not saying that Shirou doesn't have a harem, only that it's not the focus of the story.
It's not about being the focus or not, it's about having a harem and being self-fulfilment.
FSN is still the story of a young japanese boy who has fucking king Arthur who is actually a pretty blond (and virgin) girl, the idol of the school and a devoted big boobed underclassman fall for him.
Seriously stop denying the obvious, FSN is an EROGE and it's fucking nothing special as such.
I could copy-paste summaries of eroge far FAR stranger and media-defying than FSN