Do you mean from the same series? Because nothing comes close to the ending of Digimon Adventure 02. >It was me, DioVamdemon! And I can trap you all in simulations of your greatest desires! >That doesn't work on me because I have no desires! Now let's use all our evolutions at the same time! >What the... okay, still not quite strong enough. >Then we'll use the desires of these children against you! And I changed my mind, what I really want is to make noodles! >Oh shit why is that working? But it doesn't matter, the digital world is ruined anyway. >Nope! We got this dying guy to turn into butterflies and fix it! >HOW?! >And now everyone on Earth has a digimon partner, making everything I just said irrelevant! >FFFFFFFFFFF This is still canon and they're making more episodes after it.
>>122780773 >USSJ is achieved in one episode >goku: "its useless guys, dont use it" >cell agrees >all saiyans return to fighting in just as useless basic SSJ form, getting stomped >entire tournament arc later SSJ2 is achieved >Broly movie >takes 4 SSJ2s to take down a single USSJ
>>122780773 Holy Water that doubled Goku's Strength. Piccolo's fusion with Nail, then Kami. Zenkai boosts. Training in heavier gravity. Sensu Beans. SENSU BEANS. SSJ. Gohan's "finally unleashing his power", that was just SSJ2. Cell learning Instant Transmission, same with Buu.
>>122783583 Dragon Ball always had Goku on an insanely higher level than everyone else. Most characters are only relevant for their introduction arc. The only cast members who stayed important throughout the whole series are Krillin, Bulma, Piccolo and Vegeta.
Fairy Tail and Bleach are on par with DBZ when it comes to asspulls. The first due to muh power of friendship and muh resolve, the second due to "Actually I was son of a shikigami all along, actually the other parent was a quincy, actually superpowers to everyone because fuck you"
>>122788609 I suppose it's the idea that with Goku Porunga attempted to teleport him back and he resisted it. Whilst with Shenron he could've just fucked around with their spaceship controls and screw them over big time, especially since they wouldn't have any knowledge of Shenron yet and would have no idea what was happening.
DBZ kind of stopped making any kind of sense at some point and was more about "cool looking fights". it was sometime around Cell that they just completely flipped over the table and said "FUCK IT THAT WILL WORK" to just about everything.
>>122792362 Isn't the second the one where Gohan didn't transform in Ss2? Also that Gohan was weaker than when he fought cell , Vegeta says it. So if Kid Gohan Ss2>>Teen Gohan Ss2 Kid Gohan Ss>>Teen Gohan Ss
At the end of the day it's still NOT CANON , so nobody cares anyway
>don't worry guys, I can also stop time as well >good thing I learned how to in the middle of fighting Dio >and learned how to move within stopped time enough to not get immediately killed >and stop it long enough to finish off Dio as well
Reading this thread reminds me that most of /a/ doesn't know what an asspull is. Saying the time chamber is an asspull is like saying anytime anyone tries a new training method in any series is an asspull.
If you think about it as moving really incredibly fast for a few seconds instead of actually stopping time it makes more sense, since SP was already fast enough to catch bullets since it's introduction
>>122793547 If it was always there then that means it most certainly was not an asspull. And there were characters that tried to use it before. They explain what happened when they tried and failed because it was too intense for them. Trunks and Gohan have the same problem when they go in.
>>122793422 It's an asspull. It was never mentioned or used prior until the Z fighters needed a quick way to topple Cell. Why not use the Time Chamber in preparation for sayains? Why not used the Time Chamber when training after Trunk's warning about the androids? It came out of nowhere just for Cell.
>>122793714 >If it was always there then that means it most certainly was not an asspull. You are pretty dense. They SAID it was always there but no one ever talked about it or mentioned it. The earth was in danger several times and Kami didn't bother telling people about it just to check it out even if they couldn't do it.
Only in its introduction they said Goku used it before when he trained with Kami. The "reason" it was too intense was because of a concept Toriyama had made way later which is "Gravity."
Does anybody have those screen captures of Yu-Gi-Oh ZeXal where Yuma literally changes a card he has in his hand into a completely different card and somehow isn't called out and the match did not end with his ass disqualified?
>>122793839 That's not what an asspull is. An asspull is when you have an already established set rule in the universe, and out of nowhere those rules are broken for some completely random reason that defies logic. Star Platinum being able to stop time is an example because the whole series you see the extent of star platinums power, and then in the final battle it just all of a sudden develops the ability to stop time. The timechamber was a newly introduced concept in the world of dragon ball that had ties to previous arcs in the story. Calling it an asspull is like saying any time a universe does any sort of world building would be an asspull. Asking why didn't they use it before only creates plot holes(which the story addresses so it isn't a plot hole either) not make it an asspull.
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