>>122851167 I missed the thread yesterday. Are there still offboarders who only watch mature anime for mature people clinging to the idea that the writer is good, the characters are well developed and the plot isn't a poorly delivered mess of overacting at this point?
I kinda wanted the cast subplot and relationship not to be so serious, like, they do all that sad judgement thing but treat that as just their jobs and enjoy having fun whenever not doing it, like shown in the OP.
I wouldn't say it's garbage but it feels like it's missing something. The ambiguity and mystery that was in the original OVA is nowhere to be seen here. They really would've been better off making this an episodic type anime instead of this overarching plot which really isn't that good.
>>122852093 The way they deliver plot is way better than anything you usually get in anime tho. They combine episodic part with mainline and use somewhat creative roundabout ways to tell stories. I wouldn't really call Death Parade deep show or something, but I don't really understand problems with its writing
>>122851268 Funny, when the show first came out people were saying they wished they would go into the bar and Decim and all of the characters and if they do episodic stuff, then it'll be shit. Oh how the opinion seems to have shifted.
>>122852266 I feel like the overarching plot is great without being too overblown and that the sense of mystery and ambiguity is still there even if they've answered lots of questions we've been asking ourselves since the OVA aired.
It got a bit boring in the middle, but I'm still enjoying it a lot overall.
>>122852266 >They really would've been better off making this an episodic type anime instead of this overarching plot which really isn't that good. Yeah, I agree. But only if it was more like episodes 1/2 or 8/9 instead of how it was in the middle of the anime.
>>122852287 >I find they still haven't explained enough for my tastes
It probably won't be and that's a good thing. This sort of stuff gets completely boring once it's explained.
For example, they could exploit the fact that a human can stay there for a while on harder judgments. If there was a difficult case where you wanna send both people (A and B) into the void, you send A to the void first and leave B there, then you judge the person B with person C, then send B to the void afterwards. Kinda like what happened in episode 10.
>>122852643 >It does at least attempt some show not tell exposition No. >Cop says "I need them to commit the crime so I can properly judge them" >Onna still needs to spell it out "Decim can't you see? You're doing the same thing he is!" The show is as bad with exposition as your average LN trash.
It's great, but not amazing. The plot with Decim is a little lackluster in terms of characterization, but some of those stand alone episodes were fantastic, like episode three. Plus, the music and atmosphere really appeal to me.
Also, the ice skating scene last episode was beautiful.
>>122852946 Yes, I can watch an anime or read a manga of pretty much any genre if it's well executed.
>>122852998 Really? He claimed the show does exposition well in that it shows the viewer things instead of spelling them out and bashing you over the head with it. I cited the penultimate moment when Onna breaks down and yells out to Decim that what he's doing is wrong, and despite the scene making it obvious that there's a direct parallel between Decim's methods and the detectives, they writer still felt the need to insert that dialog. Yes, what I said directly disproves his claim.
>>122851167 The first few episodes were great. The meta episodes were boring as shit. The comedy episode felt way too out of place. Episode 9 got way too fucking edgy. Dropped it then. Disappointment of the Season.
>>122853200 People in some of the lives. They actually believed his bullshit about bringing back a soul being possible, then a bunch of people argued saying Mayu had chosen to sacrifice someone else, even though she hadn't. Then others didn't get why she was voided even though it was pretty fucking clear.
>>122853172 Then the writing still fails because we as the viewer already see it clear as day before she points it out. We should have been having the revelation along with Decim for impact. We should sit through it once with the cop literally yelling it out followed by Onna yelling it again. That's just over dramatic. And yet there are still people who talked about how moving it was. Being heavy or dark doesn't inherently make something good when the quality of the writing doesn't support it.
>>122853118 >despite the scene making it obvious that there's a direct parallel between Decim's methods and the detectives It wasn't obvious at all. It was conveyed by the Detective saying he liked the concept of arbiters and they he would call himself that and by Onna's litte rant at the end. But just because a concept like that wasn't conveyed without words this one time doesn't mean the show doesn't do "show not tell". Plenty of the flashbacks are efficent in telling the guests' stories with little to no dialogue, tons of clues about how the characters are feeling or what they are thinking are told through their expressions or body language. The show almost never uses internal monologues. So yeah, you'd need more than that to disprove anything.
>>122853457 >We have people who don't quite understand Onna's suicide Guilty as charged. That "other people are strangers, they're not me; I didn't realize that. I thought I'm really nothing." The thought chain was confusing as shit.
>>122853457 >Are you sure? Non mentally retarded viewers.
>>122853515 >It wasn't obvious at all. You're kidding. Onna has a problem with how he literally forces them to act out while playing his games, and the cop literally yells "THEY NEED TO COMMIT THE CRIME ALL THE WAY THROUGH SO I CAN PROPERLY JUDGE THEM!!"
You have to be retarded not to get that. Seriously, did you even take high school level literature?
>>122853999 >You have to be retarded not to get that. Seriously, did you even take high school level literature? I think that's more an issue of people not paying attention/expecting to be spon-fed everything than people being dumb. I'd probably wouldn't have got it either if I just turned my brain completely off when I watched it.
they're probably the same people who think SAO is amazing
>>122854109 >Hindsight is 20/20. It was clear as day while it was happening if you were paying attention.
>>122854124 >they're probably the same people who think SAO is amazing Why do they post here? Why do they watch so few anime, then come here to post about why anime is shit for the most part when they can't follow such a simple plot?
>>122854300 Can we have our new non-moot overlords split the board up into /ar/ and /a/, where retarded people can post on /ar/ and be surprised by every detail that isn't bashed over their heads with the delicacy of a gorilla swinging an iron club?
>>122854698 I've got that screencap buried somewhere, can't find it though. But yeah, it was great.
>>122854710 >An afterlife arbiter and some vengeance detective spying on crimes aren't really under the same conditions. I think I'd automatically analyze them separately. Good, looking at a story with a narrow view is definitely how you want to approach things. You're sure to understand what's going on.
>>122854845 Nah. I think they're legitimately different. Decim's alleged problem is that he creates the evil in people with the situation, so he's not really "finding" it and the judgment method is flawed.
The detective can be criticized in plenty of ways. But he doesn't do anything to create evil in his victims.
>>122855079 >I think they're legitimately different. Too bad the show doesn't.
>>122855114 4-7 were boring, but 8 and 9 were overacted with hamfisted exposition. >tbh Stop that.
>>122855117 I never played a game of air hockey that ended with me going full retard and stabbing the pucks because a psychopaths words suddenly affect me more than memories of my sister who I've spent my whole life protecting.
First judgement was ok, felt a bit forced and got ruined by episode 2. The second was good. Neet and mom were great. detective and brother was too edgy but not bad. The characterization episodes were just plain bad and boring. Dropped it at episode 9
>>122857040 >it has the same level of pretentiousness since episode 2 Not really the judgement things were mostly just about morals, but now there is shit like the meaning of human life and "judgment must be passed hand in hand with the human and with life and death".
>also, why the fuck didn't you drop it yet if you hated it since the beginning? Death Billiards was ok so I hoped it got better. Now I don't want to drop it for the last episodes. Also nice ad hominem argument: Ask people with a negative opinion why they even watch it, so only people with (your) positive opinion will discuss it.
>>122857480 >Also nice ad hominem argument: Ask people with a negative opinion why they even watch it, so only people with (your) positive opinion will discuss it. It's the retard go to. You either love it or hate it, you can't think it's ok and hope it goes in a certain direction.
>>122857480 >Also nice ad hominem argument: Ask people with a negative opinion why they even watch it, so only people with (your) positive opinion will discuss it.>> What? I usually drop animes when I don't like them right in the beginning, so I was just wondering.
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