The trope is based off of girls who are so dedicated to the mc that they forgo other aspects of life like morals and shit. Great for self-insertion but almost necessarily shit in terms of characterization unless they change from being a yandere at some point as character development .
>>122862422 >ignoring the pain of having 1 of your arms completely useless >ignoring the fact she has crazy person strength >ignoring the fact that after you tanked the bat to the arm ( and now have a broken arm) you're expected to hold a crazy girl down with only 1 arm >ignoring people with actual weapons.
>>122861298 I humbly disagree. I like them for the monstrous girl feel. Like, the idea of falling in love with something dangerous and unpredictable is fun, especially if the potential reward to the MC is great enough should he survive her affections.
It's like falling in love with an gynoid that happens to have a power core one mistake from going nuclear and wiping your town. The knife edge of disaster as a romance.
Romantic Horror is one of my favorite genres, mind, and yanderes are only a one part of it.
I fucking hate it because they go to overboard with it. I don't want a fucking psychopath and straight up murderer guys. I want a girl that's a little too obsessive and shows glimpses of some hostileness to women and very rarely some violence. It's mainly about personality not mindless fucking gore and shit.
But they never get it right, I don't want a mindless fucking killer, I want a girl that's just a little too into me and overprotective. I'm not saying you can't use violence, you certainly can. But sparingly, that shouldn't be her go to you know. And murder definitely not, that's like bad end shit. She shouldn't be murdering everyone just off the bat, if she murders there should be a good lead up to it.
Fuck me. It's difficult to describe really what I want, I just don't like this fuckin' exaggerated murderous women.
>>122862578 - Pain is irrelevant due to adrenaline. - Crazy person strength is the same as retard strength, unfocused and full of vulnerabilities - A girl with arms that spindly as seen in OPs pic would not have sufficient strength to break an arm (women have less dense muscles and bones) - If we are in a magical situation where that is possible, only the forearm down would be broken - 1 armed are chokeholds are not only a plausibility but often a commonality given the obvious flailing limbs - A bat is not a real weapon
>>122862924 >A simple fracture in the human skull can be caused by as little as 73 Newtons of force. An unrestrained adult falling to the ground can produce more than 873 Newtons, which is more than enough to fracture the skull. The upper bound of 873 Newtons converts to approximately 196.26 pounds of force required to fracture a skull. A study of a baseball bat swung at a ball produces forces averaging 4124 pounds with peak forces at 8314 pounds (20-40 times more force than necessary to fracture a skull). Even with a relatively light swing, a baseball bat can easily crush a human skull, causing tremendous brain damage, especially if aimed at weaker sections such as the temples.
>>122862820 Well, personally, I always felt that a yandere who's trying to kill the protagonist was always a bit thematically disingenuous. If you're going to make her extreme, make her a danger to others besides the MC. Make it a game of trying to keep her stable, cleaning up the mess when she does murder one of your friends, and realizing that you're only doing the latter because you're as co-dependent on her as she is on you, if more conscious. Then you drop hints of her real personality and past through the work, giving her real characterization beyond "crazy and devoted".
>>122863145 Not who you're responding to, but have you considered the possibility that not everyone's response to a crazy person attack is an intelligent, tactical response? Like, dear god, man. Most people would probably react to their arm being broken by pissing their pants, falling on the ground and begging for the assailant to stop.
>>122863972 That's not the fault of the archetype. That's writers saying "x seems popular so why not put it in a harem". I've only seen one manga that kind of worked in, and it had a very weird format where the dude was moving sequentially from woman to woman.
You don't take a super obsessive danger to all the people around them and make them compete with a bunch of other girls. The only real way to do something like that well would probably to have it be some kind of Evil Dead harem thing where one of the Deadites fancied Ash and occasionally swooped in to terrorize the occupants of the cabin, while occasionally lending aid. You have the occasional moment where the character has a bit more revealed about themselves, and despite being enemies, they build some sort of relationship that isn't entirely antagonistic, possibly conversing in nightmares in the moments between attacks.
>>122864721 Eh, I can see the appeal in a family member having a hard time letting go of of a son or brother. It's psychologically full of potential, though I've not really seen any good examples myself.
I think personally for me, the main appeal of a yandere is knowing that she doesn't want to share you and is constantly wanting more and more of your attention.
My favorite times where a yandere is concerned is where she's just seen the MC walking with his childhood friend and she's going through a mental breakdown trying to justify what she just saw and all the other little thoughts like
"They were just talking about school work, right?"
"He told me they were just friends, do friends laugh like that?!"
"Why didn't he invite me too? Why Why Why Why?!?!"
"I should've killed her when I had the chance, that fucking slut. I hate her."
For some reason it makes me really happy when a yandere becomes upset and confronts the MC about ignoring her/going out with someone else.
>>122865547 I feel like there's a major division between different types of yandere fans. I've never understood the attraction to them for blind devotion (not that I think there's anything wrong with liking that), but for me and a number of others, it's the fear and power inherent in a chainsaw wielding psycho that makes them attractive, along with the seemingly out of place sincere love, or at least love of the person they see you as. It's the contrast that gets to me.
How strange it is that fans of the same archetype could have such different reasons for enjoying it.
>>122865575 Then everyone besides the yandere and their yandere lover starts dying very quickly.
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