ITT: We discuss the traits of a good harem MC.
Basara best MC
>not a beta
>grabs titties with authority
>literally rape mode
The show failed to really deliver a satisfying conclusion, but I liked the early parts and I definitely liked Andou.
Not just because chuuni so funny haha, but because I felt he was wisely compassionate in a very real way that most harem MCs (or MCs that are meant to come off as compassoinate) fail to.
This is particularly true in how he helps Tomoyo with her attempts at becoming an LN author. Instead of blindly telling her "ganbatte! you can do it!", he offers her pragmatism and real support in the form of his advice and experiences. It was nice.
He's smart but far from the smartest
Not the strongest in the team, but not an useless load
Friendly but not a pussy
Compassionate and is an excellent leader
TLDR a good harem protagonist is a very well balanced person in real life, but makes for a boring story.
Or at least that's what Japanese animu taught me
The great thing about Yamato is that he's actually capable of reading the mood and he can tell if someone has a thing for him. He's also proactive. If he falls in love with someone for real, he'll go after her with everything he has. He knows that Miyako loves him, but unless he's fully committed to returning her feelings, he turns her down without any mixed messages, and if he falls for someone else, he makes it perfectly clear.
As far as harem protags go, he's one in a million.
Shinmai Maou no Testament. Last episode just aired today and many of us are satisfied with how season one has wrapped up thus far. Also, season two release already has a set date.
Ehh, I don't necessarily think the title is referring to him in particular. Yamato uses "ore". The "watashi" in the title is referring to the girls. So it's Yamato who's seriously falling in love with the girl, not the other way around.
Nope. You know how every harem has that one girl you want more instead of the main girl? Well yeah.
Are you serious?
Thanks for that great laugh, OP. I thought for a second someone actually thought haremshit is GOOD, and not just a shitty guilty pleasure for lonely otaku fags and bottom-of-the-barrel standard plebs. Surely none of you ACTUALLY enjoy haremshit? /a/ should be above that garbage.
Thanks for that great laugh, anon. I thought for a second someone actually thought Index is GOOD, and not just a shitty guilty pleasure for lonely power fantasy fags and bottom-of-the-barrel standard plebs. Surely none of you ACTUALLY enjoy index? /a/ should be above that garbage.
>yfw Index is a
They're are none.
Harems by design put the MC on a pedestal compared to the rest of the world. Part of a good character is how other characters interact with them. Unfortunately every character who is a part of the MC's harem will be madly in love with him. They will give reasons why they like him sometimes but it is all things that we are being told and not actually seeing.
There's also the issue with flaws. A lot of the time these MC's have the typical "Oh he's a lonser. He doesn't get along with people" sort of thing but half of the time these flaws don't even mean anything because they don't change how he interacts with his harem in any negative way. Nobody relevant is put off by him in any way, but if they WERE put off by him they wouldn't be his harem now would they? Which creates a sort of weird juxtaposition.
This body is reason enough for me to watch it.
i dunno if strike the blood is actually harem but kojou wasn't that unlikable, regular joe trying to shoot hoops and look after his sister
while his perversions are well known they're hardly more than vanilla, hes confirmed not a foot-fag
I feel that kanako is the best harem MC precisely because she and maria holic itself are a parody of the harem gonror. Also cause Shaft.
Sorry, I can't hear you over- Wait, is he fucking his own daughters 5 generations straight?
not that anon but Issei is the most BETA MC ever seen in the history of the harem genre
>M-Muh trauma on vol 1
>10 volumes later he confess his love to Rias
>Still afraid of kissing her
>vol 19 and he still a beta who gets rekt every fucking time and still afraid of doing something with Rias.
Issei is better than Basara because he's pure comedy gold.
The recent OVA reminded me how Issei is vastly superior to Basara.
Basara looks like a shounen hero on a harem, Issei is just pure comedy gold.
That's not an excuse for his beta as fuck actions. Issei is afraid of doing anything with anyone, when everybody blatantly wants his dick. The "muh trauma" shit went on too long (would be fine for a volume or 2) and even after getting over it he still constantly fails to get the pussy it's like he's trying not to fuck them. Maybe he's a fag.
Rance is pretty fucking hilarious and easily the best MC I've seen.
I played all the Rance games for the story since the beginning, I think the traits of a good harem MC consists of having a well fleshed out and interactive harem with the kind of girls that wouldn't just throw themselves to any nice male that gives them attention. The general atmosphere the MC gives off is an important contrast to the cast, you can't be a hot blooded and alpha as fuck and not have good chemistry with the majority of the characters, this is the first pitfall i've seen. When it comes to Rance luckily this isn't a problem, you get everything and a bit more. You have your ridiculously wild and fucking crazy Alpha MC that goes on a rampage of steamrolling girls and conquering the world, but you also get this laid back guy that just wants to have a good time and have fun with all the girls equally.
A fleshed out character needs to exist outside of a MC's interaction with the girls, this is probably the most important aspect.
Pic related by so far it's not funny.
Alpha as fuck? Check.
Well-written male tsundere? Check.
How ironic is it that Urusei Yatsura, one of the first and most iconic harems of all time, is a deconstruction of the genre the way it is today.
>all this HAREMSHIT AMIRITE
But the lonely wish fulfillment stuff is the point. And they're talking about the best MCs in regards to harems. Who cares whether they decide the best character or the most ideal one. That's the point of the genre. I mean, the ideal harem would be one with actually good writing, but that hasn't happened, just bearable writing. Bearable when you consider the purpose of the genre. I just don't see the point in going
>lol you're an EVEN BIGGER loser than me
In a place like this.
>not one good character in T7
>not worshiping liese
>not worshiping sora
Contrarian as fuck
Negi Springfield. He becomes pretty stu-ish by the end but at least he has to work for all that power and status. He starts off very weak and has to rely on everyone. By the end he's carrying everyone else almost solely.
Ranma Saotome was pretty entertaining, plus there was more than one guy in the series so that helped things a lot.
That's about it really. Anyone else I can think of is only average at best compared to the above two.
A good harem MC needs to be multi-faceted. and deffinately not a brainless, inactive faggot.
>These aren´t real quotes? I´m terribly sorry. I have only played Sengoku.
Why would you post the alignment chart if you had no Idea how Rance acted in previous games, thats pretty dumb, you're generally correct but still dumb. Go play Rance VI, its my favourite one.
He needs to see a dentist. Like, badly.
>He doesn't like sharkteeth
I am beyond disgusted.
>turning into the super playboy and impregnating 100+
Ange was always straight and Tusk was her love interest before she even started liking any other girl in the show. Fuck off with your /u/ shit. Besides Zola was legitimately an alpha as fuck harem master.
Despite his faults, the fucker has managed to do one thing. Keep me entertained. The series in general, in my opinion, is fun. One of the reasons I read it. It's not the best, it's not revolutionary, it's just fun. All I ask for.
Because the MC is literally everything fucking wrong with fake harems. Making yuri harems would not even solve anything. It would only make a shitty male MC into a shitty female MC only slightly more bearable because they're another cute girl.
What about the lead of that Shsamablah no Adam novel? He starts out as a total puss that gets taken advantage of by a christmas cake, then blowjob raped by a trap and has sex with his tsundere love interest and enemy before the fight starts. All because he has a magic eye power that makes any woman that looks at him horny for him. It's stupid as fuck, it might as well be smut.
If anything the only reason he fucks up is because the the majority of the crew on Farxius are retarded. Almost every good move he had done has been he choose himself, the other good moves he has made has come from Reine giving him advice
The best harem MCs are those who would make for pretty fine heroines themselves if they had the proper chromosomes.
Guess we are watching different shows then because that only happens with Tohka when he had no experience in the matter and Origami which is justifiable considering how she acts towards him
Yes. Don't they look just like each other? Saki is basically Yamato with breasts.
I love Ken, but I wish so much he just stuck with Kurimu, Chizuru, Minatsu and Mafuyu. Those girls are special and all have an important place in his life and how he grew as a person. I can't even support harem end as is outside of stories with more "freedom" with what can be done like having aliens and demons. I like harem end, but there's a very strict limit on how far you can go.
I guess you're right. He only loses his composure when dealing with crazy, which makes sense. Though the only time I've seen him act confidently was at the end of S2 with worst girl.
Only watched the anime.
The currently released chapters only frame him as the king of a chessboard: the battlefield focuses on him.
He still has to prove his worth as a person.
Sugisaki, Arata (Trinity Seven), Koutaro (Rokujouma), Kimito (Shomin Sample), and Ayumu (Zombie) have one important thing in common as MCs of harems: they recognize the importance of the family unit. This is what convinces the majority of their fanbases that just one girl winning in the end should not happen.
He did a good job with Kotori once he noticed what the fuck he was meant to be doing and he handled the twins really well until DEM fucked things over for him. Miku was a colossal fuckup due to the pointless crossdressing that just forced upon him and once that was sorted he went balls to the wall to prove himself to worst girl and to save Tohka
He seems to not really care from what I saw of scans. If anything it looks like he's just having mindless sex with anything that catches his interest or anyone who activates his eye power themselves guys or girls. He's either a total manwhore or walking rape bait.
>MILFs are no go though.
The fuck are you talking about?
Definitely a sense of humour, caring for his gals and being able to stand up and fight for them.
Also being able to put up with a lot of shit but being able to put his foot down if their shit gets too much and Being there for them if they get in trouble.
>not spineless, whining beta
>not afraid of women
>actually does things
* Rogue Hero's Akatsuki
* Mondaiji's Izayoi
* Shining Bread's Rick
* Moe Blue Steel's Gunzou
* else, /h/
Fucking Jesus I feel sorry for Yuuji. I have no idea how they're going to animate the sequels, there's some shit in there that I am unsure how they're going to justify putting in, but I can't see the story working without.
I like when the protagonist is given reasons to be attractive to so many girls. It's not enough for him to just be the main character. There's no way in hell I'm going to believe some shitty otaku is popular with every girl at his school.
A lot of people hated on Touma and Ichika from Infinite Stratos, but I actually don't mind them that much. Touma gets crap for moralizing a lot, but at least he has a clear sense of philosophy and his habitual heroism and confidence feels like legitimate reasons for him to attract others. Ichika is dense of course, and his being the only man to pilot IS in the world stinks of special snowflake, but the show sets him up as a good cook, master of orgasmic massages, and an improbable combination of nonthreateningly simple and smokingly hot. It makes perfect sense a bunch of girls with aggressive personalities would hunt him.
Not to say they're necessarily good characters or anything, but I see why they're popular with women in their story and I think it makes sense, which makes it easier for me to stomach the harem setup.
Others that work are Type Moon leads, because they're fixer-uppers. Shiki is fatalistic, Shirou is traumatized, both are described as attractive in setting and have obvious self confidence in both cases, or good skills to make them desirable. Say what you want about their VNs or stories, but personally, I think they had excellent chemistry with all the girls.