>>123108135 >ereaders are better but still shit compared to the comfy feeling of reading books. Imfuckingplying. The only difference is flipping pages. And having to hold open the book the entire time.
There are no benefits of reading physical copies, except the collection.
>>123108142 I grew up reading physical books as well. I hope fucking anyone posting on this site did, because ereaders haven't been a thing for too long.
>>123108259 >just as comfy. More comfy, in fact, because you can turn off the lights and don't have to hold open the book. You can rest it on the bed, on your knees, prop it up, do whatever you want with it.
>>123107470 Usually when something gets officially translated the fan translators are made to stop. This is bad because official translations often are poorer in quality, start from the beginning, take a long time to be released, and are occasionally dropped or put on indefinite hiatus with little to no warning.
/a/ may shit on me for saying this but anime dubs are the only "good" translated thing in this hobby niche.
>>123108588 These threads are just constantly reminding me about that one book I read about the renaissance. Where ancient Greco-Roman text report about human-faced dogs and ancient tree people and then a century or so later a text critiquing it comments that the human-faced dogs are bros and the tree people are fair and honest.
>>123107663 Why wouldn't you want to support authors but not translators, though? I know that there are plenty of people who do it for free as a hobby, but translation is a really tricky thing to do well.
>>123109104 But we argue about shit that doesn't exist all the time. Haven't you seen our powerlevel threads? Or do you mean to imply that the stupid shit we argue about is on the same level as the stupid shit that those ancient wops were arguing about?
>>123107470 It only takes a month or two to learn enough Japanese to read these kind of works without translation. The fact that someone is still reading translated stuff after a couple of months means they literally aren't even trying.
>>123109239 I don't support localization middlemen because they're often shittier than the fan translations. They also often have shitty packaging/no extras for anime, and they fuck up the covers/use shit materials for books.
Buying physical from Japan for monetary support/buyfagging/archival while having fan translations digitally is the best way to go about things. I have somewhere around 200+ volumes of localized manga, but I'm not satisfied with a lot of them now after recently buying Japanese tankobons. Some of them feel cheap in comparison, specifically anything from Tokyopop and some Viz titles.
Well, if the books I want can be found in the Kinokuniya here, I'll get it. That was why I bought the 2 english translated Yukikaze books, those were a great read and the 20 over dollar per book was pretty worth it.
>>123109796 The manga sets in Amazon marketplace are great, but it does lack flexibility, and often doesn't compare to prices from say, Book Off or other used book stores.
I do buy some batches from Amazon JP market, but I also do a very specific order from Book Off and such, having a consolidated proxy comes in very handy when buying multiple orders, especially from different sources. They do all the consolidation for you for a small fee, so it's not as much a hassle as the anon above seems to think.
>>123107470 >buy license >translate 1 volume >C&D fan translations >stop translating after said 1 volume (some will do a few more if you're lucky) but still hold on to licensing and C&D/DMCA shit still gee I wonder why
If they actually went through with their shit many wouldn't be as angry.
In my experience with scanlations, that's not the case. There are generally more issues with cleaning, more typos, more bad grammar, etc. I have seen official localizations make some questionable translation decisions, but for the most part, saying that scanlations have better translation just means that the translations are more direct--which is actually not always the most ideal way to translate.
>>123107470 A variety of reasons. >nobody cares if you bought x books, fuck off >fuck off back to the buyfag thread >the buyfag thread is for figures only fuck off >translated??? peasant detected >stupid dumb EOP scum >bitterness over shitty publishers: overly delayed releases, no releases at all, bad releases, >bitterness over cancellations of scanlation projects in a scene that isn't exactly a hive of activity to start with >le buying anime?? seriously?? LOL xD
I'm sure there are more. It's not one reason. It's a touchy subject. And an easy target
>>123107796 I agree with you. Friends ask me all the time why i waste my money when you can read it online, my only excuse is that i like having it in my hand. Also feels good that you bought it with your own money.
>>123111173 So you think no one should ever buy things, and everything you love should cease to exist? I mean, it's one thing to be a leech, but it's another thing to despite things that's making your hobby able to exist.
>>123111242 Americans are proud to be stupid. It's been like this for years. If you go to an American highschool, children will literally laugh and think you're "stupid for reading shit instead of spending that time to watch TV". It's pretty unique to America, and it's really sad.
>>123112058 It is objectively less engaging than many other hobbies. The only sense it actively engages is sight, whereas watching TV engages sight and sound, playing an instrument engages touch, sound, and maybe sight, etc.
>>123112000 >isn't very engaging You realize that, to read, you have to be far more engaged than you do to enjoy almost any other medium? >out-dated medium Okay, um...this is bait, isn't it? Oops. I have fallen for this bait and now I feel stupid. I certainly hope so, at least, because I have a hard time believing that anyone truly thinks that the written word, or even print specifically, is a dated medium.
>>123112242 There's more to a medium's engagement than just the triggering of the senses. We're not just mindless robots consuming information, we have thought and that thought adds whole new elements of engagement.
>>123112283 >You realize that, to read, you have to be far more engaged than you do to enjoy almost any other medium? Source? If you're claim is true, which I doubt, it is probably only because written word is so inefficient at what it does.
>Okay, um...this is bait, isn't it? No. Reading a book is objectively less efficient than watching film for pleasure or using the internet for information.
>>123112420 >There's more to a medium's engagement than just the triggering of the senses. It's the only way for an average person to measure engagement.
>we have thought and that thought adds whole new elements of engagement. And this isn't unique to reading.
>>123113081 >my hobby is better than yours because I'm a pretentious asshole The only reason you think reading books makes you better than anyone else is because of the cultural connotation leftover from when books were a symbol of status and wealth. It is literally as big a waste of time as watching Chinese cartoons.
>>123113585 >The only reason you think reading books makes you better than anyone else is because of the cultural connotation leftover from when books were a symbol of status and wealth. It is literally as big a waste of time as watching Chinese cartoons. It's been scientifically proven to be more beneficial to you compared to visual mediums though as it requires higher levels of engagement from the reader thus exercising their imaginations and improving your data processing, inference and language skills. Reading actually does make you better but the whole my hobby is better than yours deal people wave around is just as valid as the shit taste argument, especially with people who elevate books above all else as if the whole medium boils down to the classics and the not the entire whole of it.
>>123113585 >>my hobby is better than yours because I'm a pretentious asshole >The only reason you think reading books makes you better than anyone else is because of the cultural connotation leftover from when books were a symbol of status and wealth. It is literally as big a waste of time as watching Chinese cartoons.
But I never said "reading is superior". I said, dismissing it as inferior is fucking retarded.
>makes you better than anyone else because I do ***** You are the only one doing this, not me. God, every fucking time you post something, the dumber you sound.
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