The "only the best shall graduate" attitude is reminiscent of the WWII Imperial Japanese naval pilot training program. Initially it was so rigorous that only about 100 men a year were being graduated, in a program that required 4-5 years.
In 1940, it was proposed that the pilot training program be made shorter, less rigorous, and more productive, in order to build up the pool of available pilots to about 15,000. This was rejected. Japan believed a smaller quantity of elite pilots was necessary to win what they believed would be a short war.
Naturally, once the war actually began, the Imperial Navy started losing pilots much faster than they could be replaced. For example, the 29 pilots lost at Pearl Harbor represented more than a quarter of the annual crop.
This led to a scramble to cut down on training time just to get more pilots into the air as fast as possible. By the end of the war the new Japanese pilots were no match for the American pilots due to lack of training and experience, and the Japanese pilots were reduced to having inexperienced but fanatical pilots crash their planes into USN ships in kamikaze attacks.
It's the same kind of retarded NIPPON SPIRIT nonsense here, the attitude that the best training is one that causes most of TFW cohort to drop out because they are scrubs, instead of one that brings as many as possible up to standard.
>>123565100 Basically this. They justify it by saying the school operates at the highest levels so you need to get on their level or drop out. It's fucking high school, not even close to the highest levels. It's ridiculous to cut people's careers short at such an early stage. But this is a nippon manga so it's how it works.
>>123564812 Maybe the people who clear the admittance standards just can't match some godly high graduation standard? Maybe it's something like 'I may have failed at X, but people who graduate at Y can't even get into X'
I figure some suspension of disbelief is in order. There are a number of institutions where the low percentage of people who pass is a feature, as only the best succeed: see special forces for the most people, the SAS advertise on the basis that 'you probably won't get in unless you are the best'. Making the food school like this is an amusing twist.
If you're complaining about that, you might as well question how the MC's inability to cook a nice steak following their kitchen being ransacked could in any way constitute a legal mandate to close down their business. Or how some promise by the MC (not even the owner of the establishment) could in any way be considered a legally binding agreement.
Who cares, making things overly dramatic is amusing.
>>123564812 Unless they make a killing off of enrollment fees or donations or something. They'd have to be churning out some serious cooks for a failure's relative to even consider bribing them with a ridiculous amount of money.
>>123565100 I actually liked the katanah metaphor for Souma's fish dish. Nippon stronk aside, the way the katana had to be folded over a thousand times to compensate for the horrendous quality of the raw iron found in Japan (extracted from iron sand) is a good analogy for how he had to process his fish to compensate for the fish itself being inferior to muhgodnose-kun and Kiba's.
>>123573730 Yeah you're 14 now and get ticked off any time something doesn't meet your expectations of how things should be and spend hours rambling about it. Just 2 more years and you can be as cool as tumblr.
>>123574132 Well, I can also verify that eating wouldn't make you orgasm and rip your clothes apart unless it is laced with some meds/drugs. That way, we can safely assume Soma's dad deals LSD as a side-job.
>>123574419 Are you so dense you don't realize how to source your claims despite being on the internet? I hope you've never taken law before otherwise I can't see how any school could get away with passing you.
>>123574489 I wonder how you function on society if you're like that. Here, I'll give you an example using something you're familiar with >This burger includes lettuce, tomatoes and bacon? >DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF TO BACK THAT UP? I WON'T BELIEVE YOU UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY SOURCE
>Sir, I'm afraid we need to make an urgent surgery for you to live >NO, I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE THAT STATES I NEED THIS, WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU?
>>123575513 Soma said that if he couldn't serve a customer he would close up. Japanese culture, even anime, tends to put a lot of emphasis on honor and keeping his word. He cannot chicken up after he said that, no matter how many easier ways to get rid of her he had. This is an extremely common thing on anime.
>>123578095 >This is postsecondary education. It's not some kind of fucking stupid escalator school. Totsuki is literally a highschool for learners of highschool age. Of that year's intake, only Souma came from outside, the rest all escalated directly from the feeder middle school.
>>123564812 >>the college with the lowest retention and graduation rate is the best Well it is if you want your diploma to worth something. Being selective as shit is the best way for people to take seriously the students who survived.
A fucking school who makes everyone graduated, how do you figure out if it's good or just easy ?
>>123578315 >You're using your back and shoulders to lessen the weight on your arm. This requires you to either slouch badly to let your back take more of the weight, or murder your wrist so your posture doesn't kill your back. It's a no-win situation.
>>123578425 How about having tighter admission requirements so you can pass maybe 50-60% of the cohort instead of 10%?
>>123565100 Yes because the "only those who pay shall graduate" attitude is soooo much better.
I'm glad I'm french, university is free but not everyone magically graduate. In some field, like Law it's even a killzone with only 30% success the first year. Medecine is worst (because there's a national quota)
>>123578463 >How about having tighter admission requirements How is that just ? What are you requirements ? High School grades ? That doesn't mean shit depending on where you come from. Contest ? It's a big deal out of one single test to decide your future. On file ? Welcome nepotism, elitism and money ruining everything.
Anyone who's read the manga knows Tootsuki doesn't actually teach its students anything.
What they do is set random insane tests every day that have three possible results:
1. You already know how to beat the test so you do.
2. You have an epiphany halfway through the test and beat it.
3. You don't know how to beat the test so they expel you.
See: Shinomiya's recette where half the ingredients provided were inferior, the challenge to make a buffet breakfast with eggs and surprises, the stagiare placements where all they're told to do is "make a difference".
At no point does the school provide any guidance or teaching, the students are expected to teach themselves.
>>123578605 > ridiculously easy Well yeah since anyone who finished high school can join
> 10% admission Yes too, because the biggest selection happens on first year. There's a quota on how many doctors/pharmacists we want each year, that's called Numerous Clausus. It's too be sure the profession doesn't lose quality and to be less stressful after the first year.
But the first year is fucking Battle Royal
>>123578657 Well if you're gonna wait a whole year because you missed ONE exam, why not just giving them a chance to study a whole year in the school and try their hands at the first year exams ? Some people are much better in the long run.
>>123578849 >Well if you're gonna wait a whole year because you missed ONE exam, why not just giving them a chance to study a whole year in the school and try their hands at the first year exams ? Because they failed the admission and thus aren't worthy of it.
>>123578812 This. It's barely a school, it's more like a giant contest and cooking opportunities to make a name in the profession. And that's not that stupid either for an elite school (students should be a bit older though but it's a manga).
It's just a shame the manga isn't exactly really knowledgeable about food and the cooking world. We also don't see any real cooks in it (even Yakitate no Japan had real personalities in it).
>>123578425 >to be worth something The most prestigious university in the world also has one of the highest graduation rates. Having most of your students drop out or fail is not actually a sign of quality; it's a sign that you don't know how to choose suitable students. Only low admission rates are considered a positive.
>>123579029 No. Admission exams and cutthroat finals. The university I graduated from went from this to free admission and harsh finals, and then to free admission and laughable finals. Now finding an actually competent graduate is incredibly hard and most companies simply don't employ them at all.
>>123579083 >The most prestigious university in the world also has one of the highest graduation rates. And you know why ? Because it costs an arm to enter. You can't ask people to pay that much and don't give them something in return. It's not the best system, it's just the best way to get money.
>>123579140 That's because there's competition between universities. An university wants to show high graduation rate to incite students to come (thinking it will be easier), so it will make more money for the university.
That's why public universities (without retarded policies) are, to my opinion, better because they don't give a fucking about their rate, they can be as harsh as they want (and most of the time teachers want to be harsh) and your diploma really means something... if you're in a serious field of course.
>>123579332 That's just logic. No matters how good you are at selecting people, you still can overlook some potential great students. If everyone has a chance, sure it costs more, sure it's not prestigious, sure some people will waste their time but you have make a better at looking for talented people and it's better social justice.
>>123579431 I didn't say that. High graduation rate can sounds good if you're looking at student (if i'm in, i'm good) or school (look, our teachers are so good everyone is graduating) point of view but for employers it's not really what you're looking for.
>>123579558 And it doesn't get easier but the success rate goes up (especially in medecine, there's very few drop outs after first year. Law is different, you keep suffering every year) because the selection is already done.
>>123579671 >If they didn't make the selection and the entry exam they aren't "great" and never will be That's where you're wrong. Many people can fail on one single day and then turned out to be genious in the long run.
>>123579808 Special cases are not the rule. Many people fail on one single day and are shit forever. You are wasting everyone's time because 1 in a million potential students can prove to be Einstein. If he's really that good he'll find a way.
>>123579927 You have also the case of people growing in shit environnement and, no matter how hard they studied, couldn't get a decent formation in middleschool and highschool. Opening first year of university is a way to giving them time to reduce the gap.
>>123580042 If they really want it they will find a way. There is no need to lower the expectations just because some people have it shittier and have to put more effort into admission. It shits up the first year, and eventually will cause more lenient exams because 90% of the retards admitted for free can't make it. This is not the way to do it.
>>123580521 And waste everyone's time which could've been utilised to actually teach those willing. Wonderful, really. They have time before selections, and it's more than one year. You see, education past high school is not a right, it's a privilege. You should actually make the admission and show promise before even starting it. If you don't, why even bother?
>>123580439 For what reason? Because they are too poor to go to a public library? If they can understand the material required for admission and are willing to learn, they won't have any problem. If they can't they have no place there and letting them sit and be stupid for a year won't change it.
>>123579332 Harvard and Berkeley are two very different institutions. Educationwise they are on par but their student bodies are worlds apart. Basically you go to Harvard in order to build a social network. There are 3 kinds of people in HU: The Rich, Geniuses and "Fodder". Old money goes there to associate with other Old Families, while newer ones go there to get accepted to the inner circle. Geniuses go there because the faculty member/program they've been working/wanted to work with is there. Fodder is there because he thinks he is/can be the first two but he isn't. Fodder far outnumbers the others and they are the most of dropouts.Berkeley on the other hand is home to the Geniuses who simply didn't had the money to go anywhere else.
If you check their actual success-academic success that is- both Berkeley and Harvard is nowhere near top 3 as things stand. But thankfully for them there exist criteria like "Field Success Award's gotten since Founding". Other examples from the World that benefit from criteria like this: LSE, Marburg, Istanbul University, Sorbonne. Currently they are a complete shadow of their former selves.
Lastly low grad rates mean the product you are supplying is scarce, hence valuable. Especially when you are culling the weak students. Prestigious schools need this reputation.
>>123582234 You have the right to pursue it obviously, but you have to prove you also have the capability to. Nobody forces you and if you don't have the capability you won't be able to do it. Simple as that.
>>123578812 >Anyone who's read the manga knows Tootsuki doesn't actually teach its students anything. they do it off screen retard. gastronomy, chemistry, soma mentione how they learned world Full Courses, Busty loli gives a seminar about spicies. fuck you
>>123578812 also, is an scalar school, most of em besides Soma and Aldini bros already got theoretical classes in Middle School division. highschool is more on hand practice, and personal research alone or in the clubs
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