She is the younger sister. No, seriously. Follow the manga thread. There is a high chance that Honoka has Kazane's blood litterally flowing in his veins, and there is hints that Ayaka hadn't been born yet when Honoka was a child. So Ayaka could possibly be the imouto.
Best answer right here. Also Onee-sans are supposed to be the ones in charge.
>Helping Your Kid Take A Shit In The Park In Front Of Everyone
Is wcw any good? Wasn't sure if the premise would get more interesting. How's the pacing?
Is it wrong to want to pin my nee-san down and molest her?
Is it wrong to want to act completely hurt when she rejects my advances?
Is it wrong to get off to the idea of her being completely heartbroken, guilt ridden and devastated when she finds I hung myself?
I have weird fetishes.
I'm pretty sure that's not allowed in most "civilized" countries. If you can even call that being civilized.
It's starting, just like people predicted.
>not wanting the nee-san to punish her brother when necessary
>Impregnating and marrying
This series was great, but I was disappointed that the brother never impregnated and married his big sister.
The mango was better, but the best part was JC Staff not fucking it up.
Did your older sister give birth to you?
I want to make my onee-chan need to give birth.
I don't mind a light scolding, but something more along the lines of
>Anon-chan, your nee-san is disappointed in you....
>YOU DISGUSTING PIG, BEND OVER AND LET ME SPANK YOU
It's true. Intelligence is extremely hereditary. If you have smart parents, the kid is much more likely to be smart.
Like with many traits, if you need to find a good pair with similar traits, you can look inside the same family. People do this with dogs when they breed dogs for intelligence.
Are you someone who doesn't get in sand in his vagina at non-blood relations?
Yes, but eventually it causes problems.
It would be better to look for another intelligent partner outside the family. I"m just saying once in a while, it won't cause birth defects.
I can put up with it if it is cute enough and she really is at least a NBR instead of just some old lady that he calls nee-san or something.
Obviously, it is better if it is blood related.
No, their parents got married didn't they?
She's pretty great, I wish she was blood related too.
Does she love like onee-chan? Then she's onee-chan.
If they aren't blood related then they aren't really an onee-chan. It is a mark against them.
The really good ones can overcome it, but it is still a handicap.
People like you are the reason onee-chan threads turn to shit.
That's messed up. Any older girl whose lived with you, nutured you, and is not your oka-san can be a nee-san. Likewise, even if you are blood related, a horrible nee-san barely qualifies as a nee-san.
Onee = imouto > Daughter > Niece > Aunt > Cousin > Mother
It's not like I like them less, I just like the others more.
There are some great mother works, but all other things equal I prefer others more.
Daughters are a bit of a special case because I think almost ALL daughter works are shit. The daughter is too young, or the dad is too old, or the story is too dark. There is that magical sweetspot where everything lines up just right and it is fantastic, but it is just so rare.
Perhaps I should have put mothers above cousins.
Alright, /a/, you get teleported into a world where one onee-chan of your choosing is your onee-chan. Your parents will travel a lot, so you will essentially live alone with her
Who do you choose, how old would you make yourself, and what would your relationship be like?
Well I was talking about H-works when I said that.
Non-h work daughters are fantastic, possibly the highest tier.
EXACTLY! This anon gets it.
>Laying your head in her lap
>Having her help you get dressed in the morning
>Having a delicious home made meal made with extra love.
>Having someone you can always cry to, who will always comfort you and love you
Not an incestfag here.
What's the difference between a okaa-san, onee-chan, or imouto?
It's all incest isn't it?
The age and the relationship, generally.
Manami from vndb.org/v4651 is the best h-daughter I have ever come across. I would feel bad for her mother if she was my daughter as I would inevitably end up falling for her.
I want what the MC have here >>123746245
There is no need to change anything, just give me that and I'll be happy for the rest of my life. Keiko is a perfect older sister and her relationship with her brother is wonderful.
Nee-sans are the best. I wouldn't trade mine for the world. She's picked me up when I'm down, Encouraged me to do my best, and is probably the only person in the world i love as much as myself. Nee-san forever.
I want a rough and tumble onee-san. Maybe the leader of one of those female biker gangs. I want her to be normally crass and rough, but have a sweet and tender spot reserved for me.
I would be 12, she would be 16.
Both of us have sexual tension towards each other, but for that point it's mostly ecchi/comedy until later in the manga.
Delinquent yet caring onee-sans are great
I remember watching Fumoffu a long time ago, long before I knew what words like "tsundere" or "zettai ryouiki" even meant, but I still really liked that girl gang leader and her little brother even though they only showed for that one episode.
Your density-act doesn't sell, Shirou. You overdo it.
>no nee-san to deeply stare into her loving eyes
Enlighten those of us who weren't lucky enough:
What is it like to have an Oneesan?
Imagine the life of Shirou of Saber, Rin, and Sakura were his Onee-chans.
Oh but anon, how little you realize we are but 2 sides of the same coin.
They become god tier once they are 24-25 as they are mentally mature enough and caring.
They suck ass when they are in their Highschool years.
Imoutos are shit no matter how old they are.
That one was tricky to post on /a/ because it has not one single page that is swf.
0-14 or so, they're great. Always willing to play together, protective, cool and fun.
14-20 they're hit or miss. Mine was decent during this time, probably because we still shared some interests
20+ are the best years. You're bros, but there is plenty of tender nostalgia and such to go along with it
>My big sister came home one night and she was kind of drunk. She collapsed into bed with me because she was feeling lonely. I started stroking her hair. She said that felt good. She rolled over and started kissing me. I said we should stop but she had already made up her mind.
The next day she said to forget about what happened and to never talk about it again. So we haven't.
>Is it wrong to want to pin my nee-san down and molest her?
I want the opposite of this. I want a nee-san that'll hold me down and tease me, and then inflict further punishment when I accidentally cum from her molestations.
They eat cereal out of a water glass in bed without pants, spend like 2 hours in the living room reading a book with just a towel on after a shower, and leave shit around the house
>bishonen tier body
>nee chan is shorter than me,
and also a huge sjw bitch
I could have had it all and instead I have nothing
>older sister is shorter than me
>people think we're twins or I'm the older brother
>when it's just the two of us out together people think we're a couple
Why couldn't I have a big buxom older sister?
Respect and admiration.
No, I'm a lesbian with a dick, hetscum.
Some older sister/older sister-type stuff
http://exhentai.org/g/661233/e623761aba/ (page 16 onward)
>TFW you will never practice kinbakushi with your sister
They're for seriously falling in love with.
I think the reason why a lot of people like onee-chans is because a lot of us didn't get pampered growing up. Like, I didn't get a lot of affection, hugs, kisses and skin contact, so the idea of an affectionate oneechan is appealing.
>Onee chans are for ________
Playful, gentle femdom.
she wouldn't prank me like this, just headbutt me
otherwise she would have nightmares and ask me to sleep in her room when i really didnt see the problem, too young
>Oneechan is a state of mind.
>All oneechans are beautiful. Even non-blood related ones.
This guy gets it.
>have a 3D onee-chan
>I'm taller and stronger than her despite being younger
>she's nothing like the onee-chans I see in anime
Why is anime so destructive to my perception of reality?
>she's not like the onee-chans I see in anime
Please, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have an onee-san, and all are like in your anime.
Imouto's on the other hand, are even more shit than imoutos in chinese cartoons. Imouto/Genki are the worst archetypes to begin with, in 3D, it's just hell..
There's you're problem. Don't even bother talking about 3D and RL shit here since everything we say only applies to 2D, in fact 3D is shit no exceptions; and that includes 3DPD 'nee-sans'.
Rough around the edges tomboy onee-san. I'm 18, she's 20.
She gives me life advice and is generally full bro-mode even when we ain't slaying demons together like a good family does. We protect eachother's smiles. No romantic or sexual nonsense, just pure familial stuff.
And lots of banter.
Genetic risks with incest are overestimated.
The danger of incest is transmitting the bad things you, or your sister ALREADY have. And the chances won't be high enough in the first generation of incest to cause damages. If your family don't have any bad thing in their blood or genes, your kid won't have it.
To have a potato/Chernobyl child, you need to repeat incest on SEVERAL generations.
Here's what FIVE generations of incest looks like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain
Also, after 35 year, the womb quality brutally crash.
You'll have more risks of defective child with a random women aged 42 than with your blood related onee-san aged 24.
>tfw I look older than my nee-chan, even though I'm 10 years younger
>tfw the nurses once mistook us for a couple when we came to visit someone in the hospital
Reality is stranger than fiction.
>tfw a nurse mistakes my little sister for my and my older sister's daughter
my onee-chan told me she is going to get married soon
it will happen next year, she already said I would still be her otouto no matter what happens, but I just want to die
>My onee-san is 5 year older
>I'm 20cm taller than her
>Shoes way longer than her
>Way stronger than her, have wide shoulders
>She don't look like a onee-san (no big breasts) at all
What i'm supposed to do ?
not nearly enough
the older women are more interesting as side characters than the main ones..
i would kill for more izumi, nino and ayaka just shooting the shit, drinking coffee and top banter
izumi being cold and heartless of ninos terrible attitude with men and ayaka trying to get them both to agree on a nude photoshoot
whats your secret
aside from having a babyface
>Staying in close proximity of eachother on vacation
What are you fucking retarded?
Stay at least two rooms away from them. Or hell, the other side of the goddamn hotel.
>Mffw I had to lay down the hammer on my in-law when they wanted to stay adjacent to me and my missus' hotel room
>Mffw the uncle agreed and told'em to shaddap.
Fucking weird ass people.
An onee-chan thread without Trude.
What has the world come too, would you let Trude become your onee-chan?
Would you rather an onee-chan that
1. Crawls into your bed when you're sleeping, holding you tightly and refusing to let go until she feels satisfied.
2. Greets you when you come home with a freshly cooked meal that she put all of her love into.
I'll clean your ears for free
It feels pretty good.
All oneechans do it
That's an odd one. I've never heard of anyone getting asmr from vacuuming. If anything, I would think people get headaches from it. Hair cuts yeah totally. You should get someone close to you to just lightly touch your face and back of your neck. It will cripple you (because it feels so great).
I have personal space issues. I don't like being touched in general.
But yeah, I get it from the vibrations of a vacuum.
My mother had this vacuum that had a really pleasant hum to it, I usually used a couch cushion sitting on my face to filter out the higher pitch of it and off to sleep I was. My wife did it a couple years back, and off I was.
It's vibrations and certain pitches that do it for me.
>only sibling is a selfish asshole little brother I can't get close to regardless of how much I try
>remember wanting an onee-chan for as long as I can remember
>two older brothers that are 100% normalfag
>no cute imouto
I must be the weirdo here. Cause the only reason I got into the whole older sister/women thingy was because my own older sister was an immature woman child, who bullied me through out my childhood. Which made me long for the idealized older sisters found in 2D.
What about a tsundere female twin that is tsun tsun onee-san mode at first but dere dere imouto mode later
>tfw two onee-sans
>they're both cunts
>younger one still acts like a child (and not in the cute way) despite being almost 40
>didn't even get to grow up with them because parents thought having another kid 10 years later was a good idea
>essentially was an only child with double the people to be bossed around by
>always wanted a little brother
never have dreams
well if you werent born so far apart you could have given them the brotherly dick of guidance
>Parents have 5 kids
>3 of them in between 1983 and 1987
>Me in 1992
>Little brother in 1999
I was like you, no one to grow up with.
The smallest age gap was my onee-san born in 1987. 5 Years.
Not to forget that my little brother was conceived when my mother was 45, meaning trash womb quality, meaning mentally challenged kid.
People want oneesan because they just want a more youthful and energetic mom. Prove me wrong.
Too much jealousy and overprotectiveness.
Imagine how she'd react the first time you walk home with a girl, or when you start going out by yourself and no longer depend on her to drive you everywhere.
Then she'd start hounding you and trying to win you back by acting twice as clingy and lewd. Things like accidentally having her bath towel fall in front of you or pressing her breasts against the back of your head when you're on the internet.
Even that would eventually progress to full paranoid yandere where she'd sneak into your bed at night and rub up against you or send threatening letters to girls you talk to and erasing everyone but her contact from your phone so you need depend on her.
Not worth it.
>wanting any other 3dpd except for your onee-san who cares more about you than anyone else
it's not the womb, it's the egg. women gets a set amount their entire life when they were born, and releases them for fertilization at a timely interval when they're matured enough to bear children. needless to say, the ones that gets left in the sack the longest aren't exactly the freshest. and once they're all gone, menopause.
> age does play a major role in a woman’s fertility. Fertility is at its highest during a woman’s 20s. From the age of 23 to 31, a woman is at her most fertile. From then fertility declines by 3% each year until a woman turns 35. After 35, fertility begins to deteriorate quickly. By the age of 39, she will be half as fertile as she was at 31 and between 39 and 42 this is halved once again.
> At age 35, the risk of Down Syndrome is roughly 1/350, according to the Southern California Center for Reproductive Medicine. By the age of 40 the risk of a child being born with some sort of genetic abnormality is as high as 1/38.
How do you feel about imoutos that seem more like onee-sans?
Which's why it's kinda more important for women to save their egg at a egg bank than men to store their sperms at the sperm bank. Sperm is constantly being produced anew. Where egg is never replenished, and gets stale with age.
it doesnt work as well as you think considering they have to take all sorts of hormones to make their wombs accept the eggs you put in. Even then you have a 40 year old mother when you are born, so by the time you are grown up she is already a fucking grandma
Sperm quality also start decreasing after 35 so it's important even for men. The risk for genetic defects doesn't increase as much with age as it does for women but the risk for miscarriage does increase quite a bit.
there is light in the end of the tunnel people. just relax, science is here to save the day once again.
still doesnt change that your parents are old
yeah that already do that, you have poor 3rd world women who do it. Not really the most ethically pleasing solution though.
>The physician who practiced his autopsy stated that his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."
That's a "Chernobyl kid".
Most of the people are completely clueless about siblings love, and genuinely believe that incest AUTOMATICALLY, AND IN 100% OF THE CASES create potato kids in the first generation.
First generation will only have higher chances (does not mean automatically) of transmitting the minor defects that you already have (He will basically be a mix of you and your parents, so if your genes are clean, he'll be clean. If your family has crappy genes like baldness, or shit like that, then you your kid will have them.)
>your kid will have them
not necessarily. Here have some super simplified genetics:
Father has genetics of each of his parents, each chromosome is double. So he has F1 and F2. Same with mom, M1 M2
if you cross this and each person passes 1 of his/her chromosomes you get these combos
M1F1, M1F2, M2F1, M2F2
So the sister could have M2F2 and son M1F1 and those would give no crossover genes. This way even genes you have in common could be dodged. So 1 state of incest isnt too bad. Especially if you have babies early. Then you get early age bonus.
>mfw incest is forbidden because "muh potato kid"
>40+ women are allowed to breed potatos as much as they want
>TFW taller than my aneki
>TFW she's a twig, and I've been lifting since high school
>TFW I'll never be princess carried by my aneki
>potato [...] child
It's less about the risk of producing a potato then it is about social morals and all that bullshit. Those against incest doesn't care about logic or biology and just wants to forbid it because it's "wrong" and it makes them uncomfortable.
>Imoutos are for bulling and giving cuddles
I want my imouto to bully me and then give me cuddles though.