THANK YOU ODA FOR TURNING ONE PIECE INTO ANOTHER "POWER LEVELS AND ASSPULLS" SERIES!
It's sad because I think we can all remember a time when we thought One Piece was above most of the typical shonen tropes.
Slowly but surely they've been crossing out each one, and now it's basically Naruto except good.
What do you guys thing Gear Fourth is?
So far, Luffy has always made his "Gears" something that has to do with his internal body.
My guess is it's Haki related this time.
Applying Haki to his blood?
Making said Haki powered Blood pump faster and stronger.
Imagine his fist making a punch in one direction, that direction could be boosted bu the force his Haki blood exerts on his Fist.
Where they have duels which constantly break up and overlap while challenging the previously untouchable government before having their hopes shattered almost immediately afterwards?
That's stupid. He's body has the property of the rubber but is not made it of rubber.
When Luffy used that "fire attack" underwater on fisherman island, things were going downhill with that bullshit, but now it is even worse.
As oda finishes sketching the last - minute details, he lets out a sigh of relief.
"phew...only 10 more years to go!"
Finally, he gathers his work together, ready to give to his editor when suddenly he remembers something!
He rushes to his his desk, grabs a pen and writes a note to the editor:
"Next week wanpiss is on hiatus lel XP"
"good" thought oda..."now I can have the time to think what gear 4 is gonna be.
Seriously guys, this "I'M LAW I'M DEAD, LOL NO I'M ALIVE LOL NO I'M DEAD LOL NO I'M ALIVE" was fucking bullshit i can't believe Oda did it.
t4 going to be a haki blazing luffy, i call it guys.
Still he didn't do that kind of asspulls before
The "LOL I'M MADE OF RUBBER SO FUCK YOU ENEL" was so original and consistent, but it's nothing compared to Law's, Doflamingo's "i can stitch my own body!" and "rubberman uses fire powers without melting"
>He powers up with a full layer of Vergo-tier armament
>Mfw he becomes rubber
But...I'd heard Oda had specifically said there wouldn't be a fourth gear because that'd be too predictable. Did he not actually say that or did he just break down?
Yeah. It looks like Super Saiyan 1 with blue hair. If I hadn't seen it confirmed on ANN, I'd say somebody was bullshitting me with a basic photoshop. Toriyama REALLY needs to just retire and not let himself get dragged back in.
Someone pointed out to me a few weeks ago the Falmingo family has devil Fruits that are basic upgrades of the Baroque Works leaders.
Then it just dawned to me, Violet is just the Vivian of this arc.
This whole thing is a repeat of Arabasta.
Maybe A combination of 2nd and third, where he can shoot the compressed air out of his punches like shockwaves. We beams now.
At least this comes from a very clear problem Luffy has.
Gear 2nd made him faster (and to a degree made his attacks more powerful) Gear 3rd made his attacks more powerful but also slower.
Right now he can hit Doflamingo but can't hit him hard enough to do any real damage and his most powerful moves are too slow to hit him. Gear 4th will likely remove his ranged abilities or lessen them, but drastically increase raw physical power. Comparing it to Dragonball's power level bullshit where fights have no strategy other than slamming vague definitions of 'power' against each other is retarded.
I don't follow Jump manga weekly, but this week's hype has made it irresistible. Anyways, I'm unfamiliar with the term. Does that mean there will be 2 chapters of all the Jump manga in two weeks time?
It means that the whole magazine will take a week off after the double issue is published. There's no extra chapter in it. I'm not sure what else it means beyond that, but that's pretty much all you need to know.
>converts former enemies to join his crew
>cares deeply about his friends
>every time there is trouble, he adds 1 to his powered up mode's name
>usually gets completely better through a miracle of god, machinery, medicine, or some insane power
>whole family was dead at one point, but then one of them came back
Is this Dragonball?
Oda said in an SBS that Gomu Gomu is not paramecia or logia but a fourth type of fruit that transcends space and time
Gear 2 doesn't make you fast, it slows down time for you
Gear 3 doesn't make you big it warps space around you to make other people small
Gear 4 ???
The clue to what gear 4 is lies on that page
>You've made my friends cry
Looking back, Luffy always got his best powerups when his nakama got hurt
Gear 4 is basically Luffy calling his crew on the den den mushi and telling them "it's time to use that", at which point they'll all take out a knife and cut themselves and cry out in pain while saying "it's all doflamingo's fault, he made us do this", thus giving Luffy the drive to take it out on Doflamingo.
source: i enjou kousai'd for Oda when i was a little girl
Now Dofla even has Bullet strings.
This fucker pulls out new moves constantly. There was a list somewhere over all the other Devil fruits he's managed to emulate, right from emergency operations, to flying, to controlling bodies, etc.
Ito Ito is broken as fuck.
>Now Dofla even has Bullet strings.
Bullet strings was the second or third attack he used with his fruit
I'm honestly beginning to suspect a large portion of the people in these threads don't actually read any text, they just skim through pictures and finish the chapter in twenty seconds
>yfw special move ROPE BURN
>friction from strings can create fire
>doffy is now mera mera as well
>special move STRING VIBRATION
>now he has apoo's fruit as well
>his very essence is literally melded into one with the one piece universe and he can do anything
The idea of Gear 4 is growing on me.
I mean Luffy did train for 2 years and this is the first time he's been pushed to his limits post-time skip.
So I'm not surprised he has skills he hasn't used.
It's fucking bullshit because he didn't use it right away. The point of Gear 2nd is that despite exhausting him or whatever, he used it against a pansy like blueno without hesitation because too much shit was riding on him winning.
Gear 3rd never works and has a terrible drawback so I can only imagine Gear 4th is similar. If not I call bullshit.
It's really a fucking lot.
He came up with gear 2 after seeing it the first time. Between that and rescuing robin is what, a couple of days at most?
Their entire pre timeskip journey was less than 6 months.
I thought I would hate it but I really don't mind it at all.
We haven't had a single fight yet won by "MY HAKI IS STRONGER THAN YOUR HAKI," in the manga. Hody and Ceasar were jokes while Dressrosa has emphasized broken Devil Fruits more than anything.
>Gear 4th ends up being too much of a strain
>Collapses in the third panel after delivering a punch that shatters Dofla's organs (again)
>Dofla too weak to recover, but Luffy is in worse condition
>Giant one legged shadow behind Dofla swinging a sword
>or the chosen one group-stun.
I figured the Conquerors Haki was given to people aspired to be kings like Luffy or are actually royalty like Doflamingo and Hancock. It's only been seen on people who are veteran pirates or aiming to become the pirate king.
Was it said that it's something you're actually born with? When Rayleigh said it can't be trained I figured that's because it had to awaken on its own through the users own ambition and personality.
because grizzly magnum is obviously his most powerful attack ideal for that job
gear fourth will probably just make him faster and he'll hit harder, doffy mentioned his punches being weak moments before
Did you forgot that each time he use a gear his body gets weak ?
luffy is literally shortening his life span using those powers.
make total sense to not use somethign even more dangerous to kill a bug.
what if goku started using genki damas in every fight he had with kuririn ?
>Did you forgot that each time he use a gear his body gets weak ?
>luffy is literally shortening his life span using those powers.
Sure he is. You actually believe this is a thing after Eines Lobby. Luffy who can instantly go into Gear 2nd and 3rd with no side effects after the timeskip.
Because he needed to hit it a lot, as well as hard, in order to break into small enough pieces that it wouldn't destroy Fishman Island. A few concentrated punches wouldn't do the job and there would still be sizable debris.
Calling it: gear 4 is where he covers his entire body in Haki, turns into a ball and bounces off the birdcage, building up momentum until he wrecks Dofla with a single hit.
First OP thread I've read in the 5 years I've been here.
>OPfags actually think it's shounen done good
Every shounen is cancer, shit, and the fanbase is even worse. You're no different from Narutards.
DESTROY NOAH ?
did you ever read OP ?
he could destroyd noah it as like you you going for vatican city shitting in the pope face and exploding the city.
Noah is SACRED for the fishman.
You're all wrong, he got the idea of gear 4 from surviving magellans poison and reading wikipedia on the weekends
Why isn't Mingo just controlling Luffy? He never even tried to control Law during their fights but he immediatly wrecked Sanji with it. What the fuck Oda? Parasite is such a fucking hax ability and was shown multiple times during the series and now when we see Doflamingo actually fighting close combat in this arc he barely uses it. I don't get it.
>tfw gear second and gear third are different tools with different uses and gear fourth will likely be the same
I'm betting on reducing his stretch range, but increasing his physical strength and toughness.
>Calling it: gear 4 is where he covers his entire body in Haki, turns into a ball and bounces off the birdcage, building up momentum until he wrecks Dofla with a single hit.
Some Bellamy inspired bouncing shit could sense.
Maybe like a rubbery version of Vergo.
Jesus Christ it's only now dawning on me how similar they are.
He made him unable to do anything. We saw this hand movement so often in the series and I always asked myself how anybody could counter that. If he would've stopped Law and Luffy just like he stopped Sanji they would be BTFO easily.
been a pirate you know?
try the Donquixote pirate! could've be the 1st mate if I have not join the navy!
I'm not one of those low bounty DF scrub!
I can break the pirate king in half, with my bare hand!!
haki son! they harden in response to sheer will. You can't beat me!!
Luffy has already used gear 4th guys.
Oda had to nerf Dofla down so badly.
What happened to Dofla targetting people's necks all the time?
He was about to kick Kyros's head off and that was the only time he targeted the neck during this arc.
Whining before we even know what it is.
And then people wonder why One Piece threads are so shitty lately.
Monet will save Sanji and crew from big mom.
when we beat Big Mama and Kaidou and Blackbeard, and possibly get more characterization from the other supernovas.
then Oda also has to fit in the revolutionaries and the supposed war and the old guys from the govn't and the legendary weapons.
then we're almost done.
so far luffy's main method of attack is through building momentum with his punches and kicks, with the added durability from his "rubber" body.
I wonder if he'll ever delve into plastic-man levels of ability, or is that too logia-like?
>Was it ever stated? Sanji and Jozu have haki and yet Doflamingo had no problems controlling them.
It's probably like Law's power where you need to be at a certain level to resist completely.
Maybe Jozu just sucks.
How many characters in One piece used their tf's to gain other forms or power ups anyways.
Apart from Chopper, every zoan only had 3 forms til now. Apparently there is an awakened form too though. Lucci only used another technique to alter one form.
Afaik, none of the otehr characters in One Piece applied their tf's as much as the strawhats, which is a bit of a shame. I mean, they are the main characters, but still.
>those speaking patterns
>enel faggotry was coming from a literal underaged newfaggot
explains a lot
>enelautists are so upset they are just shitposting randomly now
Since when were you under the impression of that One Piece wasn't a shonen power level series?
>all this literal mad
Damn, newfag tears are delicious
man i love these threads, whenever something awesomely stupid happen during fights everyone acts like OP was never about powerlevels and asspulls, like OP hasnt been a shonen all these years, people always forget.
>every single Zoro fight
>water allows me to hit you
>how zoro got his swords (except Kuina's, but even that one is debatable)
>Every major Ussop victory (dont get me wrong, i fucking love them but every ussop victory has been one asspull after another)
and all those characters that can only asspull stuff.
OP has always been full of asspulls, thats never been a new thing, its how hype they are what makes them worthwhile (at least for me) plus the simple addition of Gear 2nd/3rd implies there will probably at least a 4th and what better moment to use it than during his first really difficult fight after the timeskip, remember FI was only there to showcase how fucking strong they're now, this is the first time they're actually struggling after the powerups (Except for zoro, which makes sense because that's all his fights)
Dressrosa has been pretty hype and depending on the outcome of this battle it will be one of my top 3 arcs.
Cabbage would have a very hard time, not sure if he culd win.
Barto can defend, but if it goes for attack he is to slow and Enel has Mantra. No idea how this would work out.
The others are Schichibukai, or Yonko-Executives so no wonder
>but it doesn't mean you have to be this big a jerk
Or if they actually kept it to the super select few.
I still can't help but wonder what the fuck Shanks and crew have done to justify being Yonko when compared to Whitebeard/Kaido/Big Mom.
Seriously, what can Ceasar do? How can he evade something like El Thor? He can't guard himself against lightning.
And there are gasses that react with electricity, or even burn when in contact with them.
CoA =/= immunity against DF
>people say Doffy vs Luffy is the Frieza vs Goku of OP
>it took roughly 6 chapters before namek exploded in 5 minutes
>the birdcage won't reach the critical point of slicing innocents until 20 minutes
>Straw Hats have only been on Dressrosa for a few hours
>15-20 chapters of Luffy vs Doffy
Eh, i wouldn't call most of the bullshit in One Piece "power levels". Most new techniques allow the characters to do something they couldn't do before as opposed to "Do the same thing, but hit harder" as is traditional in shonen. I'm not even sure why anyone is complaining about the new gear without even seeing it.
Also, fuck Sabo with a lead pipe.
>>people think Enel will never learn armaments haki
>are people seriously this stupid? I wouldn't be surprised if the moon people knew all the secrets of haki, and helped him master it.
>people think Enel will come back
>becomes non-reactive gas
>he dies without even knowing what happened
Blowing out enelfags shouldn't be this easy, but I guess they are all babies anyway so it doesn't matter.
>taking a thread that will be forgotten in a few hours this seriously.
>gets laughed at
You could write it on capslock and it wouldn't sound as mad as posting it over and over, son
To be honest everything post-timeskip has felt like an asspull. When Luffy came up with new stuff early in the manga, it made anime sense. Water working against Crocodile made sense because wet sand is harder than dry sand. Bouncing his arms off Enel's ship to punch him made sense because Enel couldn't read the punches coming. Only gear 3rd felt retarded since he's only inflating his hand.
>Luffy using a last resort on a established top-tier villain that was introduced since early stages of the series.
>said skill has been on everyone's mind since time-skip.
>calls it an asspull
chance of a kill yourself reply from this kid 100%
>H-h-he just stay a BILLION km away and shoot the entire world to death guiiise!!!! And everybody die guise!!!
Holy shit, it's like talking to a literal toddler.
Oh, autistic scenarios? Ok then:
>Enel is getting raped in the ass by Wiper because he is a bitch
>Suddenly, Trebol throws haki-imbued glue at him
>Enel is dead
Done, more realitic than your babbie fantasies.
>Enel can't even kill a weak fodder
>fucking fodder indians survive him
Enel is as dangerous as a Pikachu. He will make you sleep for an hour and then you come back without a scratch.
Yeah, he is just going to conveniently kill the entire world from it because your autism tells you so.
>>Whitebeard can't even kill a weak fodder
>>fucking fodder marines survive him
there you go
>inb4 Akainu isn't fodder
I'm talking about all those other Marines, even VA he engaged
Ceasar =/= entire world
shit what do you want from me?
tell me how ceasar would be able to kill Enel.
I know that somethin like a Raigou could be farted away by an admiral, or VA, but Ceasar? C'mon he's a shitter
well, I expect some skill from someone who is a higherup in a Yonkocrew.
His fruit is still broken as shit. Zapping people from far away, his speed, enhancing CoA, forging, resurection, etc
Powers in one piece work more along the lines of combat skill. Caesar was a joke despite his powers and i wouldn't be surprised if even usopp can defeat him on a good day. Going by straight powers, characters like Buggy, Smoker and Bellamy should've been far bigger threats than they were. Heck, Law has "full control" in his room, yet he spent most of his last couple of fights getting his ass kicked.
Enel, despite his fruit powers, is shown to be weak enough for pre timeskip luffy to beat him without too much effort. And even his lightning projectiles are not quite lightning fast. It should fair to assume that most any skilled fighter with the ability or equipment necessary to hurt a logia should be able to defeat him. In particular if they were shown to be a threat to characters of luffy's power or greater around or after the time of their original battle.
A fruit's raw ability is hardly what makes an accomplished fighter in the world of one piece.
>There is no spoilers and leaks here
you must be new here
>everyone assuming gear 4 makes luffy super strong
>oda is probably the biggest fan of gags and humor
>mfw gear 4 makes luffy into soft rubber and he fights as a puddle
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>Have seastone stick or armament haki
>Can hit enel like luffy did
>Have bullshit "absorbs lightning" equipment/dial or observation haki
>Can avoid damage from him like luffy did
It's One Piece. characters have been able to grab hold of the sea and toss it, move at super speed and even turn into iron through raw martial arts.
So in 2 weeks are we getting a double chapter or what?
people have been saying gear 4 for literally three years
why people are so but hurt about this is beyond me
It's either that or you're just guys are really stupid
all I see here is you guys underplaying Enel and 1 guy being hyper imaginative on Enel abilities, both of you are biased as fuck and have no right to an opinion.
Its two people at most attempting to make a shitposting shitstorm, bro.
Like the people who have been waiting for the inevitable gear 4 for years, these people have been waiting to shitpost about it for the same length of time
nothing wrong there, you were assuming that what I was saying is what a person pretending to be newfag would say, which is also the same as what a newfag would say, but I have nothing of sorts so
you can't really stop being retarded, sorry
I can't see Gear 4 being anything that can't be considered new. So, anything that's a mix of Gear 2, 3 and/or Haki should be out of the picture. Vulcanization would be too similar to Haki or Red Hawk, so I can't see it either.
Anything that gives him more speed is out too, as that would be just better Gear 2, and hardening is out too, because that's just stronger Haki. If it's a Gear, it has to be something that he can only do because he's made out of rubber, and it probably has something to do with Haki.
Not only that, but it must be extremely dangerous, taxing or specific to justify why we haven't seen it used yet. And considering how Gears are, it can't be too specific either, it must be a new form of attacks, a new prefix to his attacks.
I'm hyped beyond hype.
What if it's him moving his bone joint along the body so the attack is multidirectional and unpredictable? Sounds perfect in a fight against someone with string
Gear second and third are kinda speed and power, what about fourth being control?
pretty Smoker I guess
are you even trying?
>nothing wrong there, you were assuming that what I was saying is what a person pretending to be newfag would say, which is also the same as what a newfag would say, but I have nothing of sorts so
Holy shit, this mad shitfest is like watching a complete retard trying to do simple math
it's crazy how shitty threads become in the late afternoon and evening. I guess it's because
school is over
do you know what you're talking about anymore?
this all started with you saying there are no leaks and spoilers in 4chan which is very retarded btw since not just this thread but the whole board is full of it.
What if luffy could make his body vibrate and possibly resonate that with his haki making super haki, seems like a logical way to use rubber.
So it bugged the fuck outta other people how the Monster trio suddenly got POWERED UP for their fights against CP9? Like Sanji barely able to wound Blueno during his Tekkai only after a huge-ass windup to hurting Jabra through his Tekkai with regular kicks.
The last few chapters really are filler then.
Oda was totally stalling. He totally intended for Luffy to be able to defeat Doffy without Laws help.
But because of this gimmic, Doffy had to have his organs pulverized
Pretty Sanji acknowledged that his kicks really weren't doing much to Jabra despite landing a lot of them. Jabra kept shrugging them off and showing little signs of actually being injured because lol Tekkai.
Fuck off all of you. Every single one of you is derailing the thread over some Arlong Parker.
You have to be 18 to post on 4chan, now leave
Too fucking obvious.
Gear Second was some Kaioken ass shit and the proceeding beatdown he gave Blueno made it great.
Gear Third actually didn't manage to do shit against Lucci aside from the initial hit, and even then Lucci just got back up and was still ready to keep going.
Gear 4th will be Luffy using his hair like tentacles
>There is no spoilers and leaks here
You're simply assuming that since if you had half a brain you would see how retarted you are.
this board is full of spoiler. spoiler fucking everywhere. Is first here? no. but this site is still chuck full of spoilers and leaks.
I'll bite it, they were talking about how the spoilers we get here usually come from other sites and sources, with other places get it as early or even earlier, while landwhales still come here thinking this isn't the case.
This is specially the case on OP threads, and was heavily discussed many, many times here, so it would take a newfag cunt to sperg like it.
Done, I played along and gave you a bit of attention.
There, I give y
>treating Gears like power levels
But Blueno was the only person who absolutely got his shit stomped by Gear Second.
Then there was a long period of time after that where Luffy's opponents were able to keep up with his Gear Second speed easily, and Gear Third was mainly used for when he needed to take down something pretty big.
They were never an "I win" type of deal, especially not Gear Third.
since you're a little slow I help you on this one
When a chapter that hasn't been translated yet get posted on the board, and you get translated info from an anon who probably got it somewhere else or himself, what do you call that?
>Somebody talks about spoilers without adding "early" and "exclusive" on it.
>this prompts an illiterate newfag to start a shitposting chain about how there's spoilers on 4chan and people can't understand him
This cancer is much lower than your normal shitposting.
His only "natural enemy" advantages where immunity to his projectiles and the ability to hit a logia without armament haki/seastone. Those are also advantages that nearly anyone in the later part of the grand line can have, while being more skilled as fighters than luffy.
Since Enel's "natural enemy" disadvantages become more common as you travel the grand line, he would have to rely on his combat ability. Which was lesser than Luffy's. Thus, enel is a punk.
what if gear fourth is him moving the air around his body at really fast speeds to create a sort of big O kind of aftershock when he throws a gear 2 punch? or something similar.
the whole vulcanization thing is interesting but what use does that even have? like oh man doflamingo is so fucked luffy is on fire haki mode shit fuck. but that doesn't really solve his problem.
the chapter was showing how gear 2s power was too weak to hurt doflamingo but gear 3 couldn't catch him. so he needs to utilize them both somehow.
We just gotta wait a couple days until the cancer decides to kill itself until the next spoiler/release. So although we won't have a chapter for two weeks, we won't have all the underage.
Because Luffy's current gears are more useful to pick between depending on what needs to be done. You have no idea of G4, but if it's vulcanisation then it would be less useful against Noah for instance, as G3 has a more destructive capability. Here against Doffy, G4 might work to Luffy's advantage better as G3 is too slow to even hit Doffy, as we've seen several times.
Basically G4 doesn't need to be more powerful, just give Luffy a strength in another situation. I still can't even pick whether G2 or G3 is stronger for Luffy
those advantages are only limited to hitting him but when you can move as fast as electricity, fly and have CoC/Mantra that's not really an easy matter, also the fact that they are not immune to his attacks which are devastating.
he's as strong as a low-mid tier shichibukai.
dont get me wrong
enel is a trash.
but if if his power was... turn himself in shit. he would beat luffy in skypiea.
that time enel already had a haki. ( only observation but had).
luffy was weak. he won with protagonism
Oda's bad with time estimation. He thought he could finish the whole story of One Piece that we have today in 5 years (which you would, before starting to be fair), but look where that is. We've got 7-10 years left.
His attacks are as devastating as a cyborg laser. And most anyone can tank most anything in one piece as long as they need to look tough. So, the only real variables are combat skill and the ability to harm the opponent.
Half agreed, if his power was a non-logia power, he would most likely have still lost. What Luffy's plot armor was doing is letting him hit a logia type, since he had been tanking all sorts of nasty shit for the series, raw power never really becomes a "win" condition.
you're this guy right >>123798916
you're point is misconception brought by your shitty reading comprehension. you probably didn't bother to read back at the thread typical for underage faggot with attention disorder.
And my point still stands
you are retarded.
Man I remember how sad I got seeing Yubashiri disintegrated like that. I was almost in shock. Ryuma coming along with Shusui made up for it though, especially since it's the best looking sword in the series.
Blackbeard touching him is instant death, so that is to be avoided.
>implying Enel wasn't the one doing the raping on the moon
>all this "pretending" to literal autism
>all this "pretending" to be new
>all this "pretending" to be underaged
Just the later part of the thread and most of it is this one single kid shitposting over and over. You guys just report and ignore this little shit next time.
No, he has less combat skill than skypea Luffy, as demonstrated by Enel losing to him. The ability to harm someone merely refers to the ability to cause injury, not the quality. That is "as long as you have a method of attack that your opponent is not immune to, it's all up to combat ability".
I almost wish Oda never made Luffy immune to Enel. It's made all these people actually think his fruit isn't one of the most powerful in the series, simply because the one man with a natural immunity came along and his power became useless against him. Oda even went out of his way to display the Goro Goro's capability by blowing two islands out of existence as well as things like El Thor, melting and manipulating gold and rock walls, etc.