I'm trying to remember more girls whose efforts were in vain
This is kind of a stretch
The one time I remember things working out for the girl after she confessed was this.
Because most of them are merely human. To be proactive and win, you have to be an eldrich horror from beyond space.
>they never show up first
But that's wrong.
If this happens, I'm going to be deeply upset.
It's failing at self-insert fantasy if 8man doesn't find some self-worth and reciprocate the feelings of the girl who had been trying all along.
What is there to handle though? All you have to do is say yup! and you're good.
Because people don't like desperate sluts. Why do you think tsunderes are so popular? Because you have to work for their affection. Aggressive girls offer no resistance and there's no challenge in winning them over.
>"Huh, what did you say?"
Are we over it yet?
>What is there to handle though? All you have to do is say yup! and you're good.
The one realistic thing about Genshiken's harem plot is that a herbivore will do goddamn anything to avoid making a committed answer about fucking anything.
Yeah but LNfags are dumb. They never think about story structure or what makes sense, they just get distracted by shipping words, latch onto arc words, and get snooty over cheap serialized high school drama.
A lot of the time it isn't though. It isn't just that nothing happens, it's that the proactive girl loses all the time.
Think about how we always complain that the best girl loses in everything. Then think about how often the best girl is the proactive bro that actually loves the boy and makes moves, instead of the stuttering blushing designated winning heroine that has no chemistry at all.
There's a subtle difference between
>Hey Raku, I like you. Want to go out on a deito sometimes and see how things work out?
>Hey Raku, I've been obsessed with you since we met that one time ten years ago, I changed my entire personality because I believe you would like my new personality more, you're my fiance and the love of my life and I would never let you go.
The former is a proactive girl who knows what she wants and tries to get it. The latter is a loony that would probably pop holes in your condoms to get you to impregnate her and take responsibility.
I get that GC is shitty, but I don't know why people shit on this part so hard. Yeah Shu was a pussy before and then turned completely different, but that's completely understandable. It was entirely Soda and his shitter friends' fault that the one girl that cared for Shu died.
There were people celebrating, making Nazi/Holocaust jokes and arguing with moralfags. I am under the assumption that it is generally considered a high point in the series where it was shown the protag could have been something more than a bad Shinji clone.
I know, but I'm pretty sure those reactions were mostly ironic, like the way people watch Valvrave and Cross Ange.
From what I've seen online, people evaluating the series as a normal show accuse that part of being inconsistent (in plot direction and tone) like the rest of the show.
You know what's rarer for a proactive girl winning?
A proactive nee-san winning.
This manga threw me off so much, honestly.
Implying this won't win. What kind of fucking taste.