>>124696824 An admiral can fight 10 days without water or food without dying. Can Accelerator do the same? And don't say that Accelerator could just drink/eat a little bit while his barrier protects him, since Kizaru would pretty much destroy everything close-by. I even think that every admiral would be capable of beating Accelerator.
>>124696296 That's pretty funny considering he can only manage 200 million volts whereas Mikoto has the capacity to exceed a billion. He only pays tribute to Raijin whereas phase 5.1 Railgun actually is Raijin. You fuckers will sink to any level to insult the electric princess.
>>124697338 Unless his wings go off, in which case he can fight pretty much as long as he wants.
>>124696898 Now you've got me wondering. Accelerator's pumping his own blood around with his powers in V19 makes me ponder if he could use them to fuel his own biology in place of energy from food, in a pinch.
>>124697343 Maybe he can reflect it for a short while, but even he faints after a certain time without anything to drink. Kizaru, on the other hand, could just speed away to get some water from somewhere while still keep the Accelerator busy with attacks. >>124697338 We're assuming the pre-damaged Acclerator here. >>124697410 Maybe, but even then he needs air. Or can he break molecules apart?
>>124697470 Maybe, but even then he needs air. Or can he break molecules apart? Shit man, who knows? The smallest thing we've seen him exert fine control over was neurons, and he focuses all his efforts on that. But maybe he can affect large groups of molecules in bulk?
None of them could harm accel, but unless logia powers can harm themselves, his basic reflection ability will not be enough to win.
He could, however, force them into their elemental/logia state and the use his control of vectors to do something along the lines of molecular separation or intense compression in order to cause a base level change in what the matter he is dealing with is. This might cause the logia user to die if the result is something they can no longer control. Examples would be melting Monet into water then separating her into hydrogen and oxygen (I assume this is physically possible), compressing Ace and depriving the flame of oxygen, and if there is ever a wind logia, compressing that into plasma like he does in Index.
If all else fails he can just launch them into space like Kihara.
>>124697410 >Now you've got me wondering. Accelerator's pumping his own blood around with his powers in V19 makes me ponder if he could use them to fuel his own biology in place of energy from food, in a pinch.
Using his own blood to fuel his biology, are you talking about starvation?
>>124697809 Not all logia have weaknesses though. Unless Accelerator can make himself rubber he can't hurt Enel. I don't even know how someone can even harm Kizaru without using Arament haki because light has no weaknesses except for maybe darkness.
>>124697864 No. I was referring to his surviving the loss of most of his torso by pumping the blood through his body (and thin air) with his powers. What I meant was using his powers to (forgive me if I'm wrong on the technical details here) bond ADP and Pi into ATP, thus essentially using his power as a perpetual energy machine.
>>124697972 Accel controls one of the very fundamentals of physics (vectors), absolutely nothing that even slightly adheres to those rules can stop him from moving. The literal translation of his name is "One way road" for that reason. Ice ain't stopping him.
>>124698032 >light can't escape black holes Hakwing would like to have a word with you. >b-but it's not the same light that fell into the black hole Doesn't matter, it's still light and the black hole eventually disappears completely.
I'm going to try to give a good explaination of Accel's powers.
His ability is to control any vector that he touches. In short, a vector is a quantity with a magnitude and a direction, such as acceleration, basic force, heat transference, ect.
This power is commonly manifested as his reflection ability, but is much more than just that. Examples include controlling the wind and compressing it into plasma, the firing it, ignoring the basic force of a building sticking his hand through the side like water, and tossing it, controlling the movement of electrical signals in someone's brain, using his power to reverse the blood flow of someone and accelerate it to cause them to die instantly, and many more.
Logia users can take the form of an element. Such as fire, light, snow, ice, magma, lightning, and so on. They cannot be harmed physically due to this without haki or an elemental weakness (water making sand hittable, fire hits ice, rubber hits lightning).
>>124698541 Sounds neat, but overall it would only potentially apply to Kizaru. So accel could probably beat every other logia user and potentially Kizaru. Assuming we are ruling out "Just launch them into the ocean" or whatever (How would being launched even work as a logia? If he sent Kizaru toward the ocean, how quickly would he regain control of himself and stop his movement when he's just light?)
>>124698688 The nasa already did a test in a vacuum chamber and measured a slight thrust which can't be explained by errors in measuring. A warp field might be one of the explanations for it. >>124698714 Accelerator can stop his light form in every moment, so even changing the vector of it doesn't do much harm.
>>124698850 To be honest, Kizaru's df is probably the most hax in the entire series and, despite people claiming otherwise, could escape Blackbeard's black hole because the gravity pull only goes above c after the event horizon. But since One Piece has bullshit physics, the speed of light is not always the speed of light and darkness ist not darkness. I think Oda will just make Kizaru fight against Sanji/Zoro + Jimbei and they counter his attacks using Observation Haki and then fight him in close combat.
>>124699102 The only problem is, assuming they go for an admiral boss rush, who would fit well with Fujitora if Zoro gets Kizaru? The go to would be Sanji at that point due to rank but that lineup doesn't fit well.
I was wondering, is Kizaru able to control his speed and his direction, or is he forced to travel at c (slightly less if air is the medium) and always in a straight line? Can a beam of light curve? Can photons slow down if the medium through which they're travelling does not change?
It's pretty obvious Kizaru wasn't actually kicking at the speed of light when he shitstomped Drake, Apoo and Urouge at Sabaody for example. Is there an explanation to that or is it just manga physics?
>>124699464 Kizaru moves in a straight line but can always transform back and change his path. He's also always moving in light speed when transformed, but has shown to be in a semi-mode before, which was definitely slower than light.
>>124697343 The word "instantaneous" means jack shit when you're moving at the speed of causality (a.k.a. speed of light). Going (in this case reacting) faster than light would mean going to the past, effectively breaking the concept of causality. In short you're saying that something done in the future can affect the past. Unless Accelerator can rewrite the law of physics/go reality breaker, he's dead.
>>124699968 looks like a little girl being taken to the hospital with a fever, the white hair guy is taking her temperature 1 last time before driving off. The little girl is obviously struggling because she has a field trip to the zoo the next day and doesn't want to stay home. >>124700005 he can manipulate vectors, there's thousands of ways he could launch someone.
>>124699757 Yeah, you're definitely not familiar with the source material, so let me explain: Accelerator *is* a reality warper, as are all espers in Raildex to varying degrees. They have a 'personal reality' in which they have superpowers.
Accelerator doesn't 'react' to threats, instead anything that enters the range of his power (a few millimetres, or centimetres if you're being generous) that he *would* perceive as a threat automatically has the direction of its action reversed (with the typical effect of sending it straight back with double the force). This is why his power deflects (for example) UV light, but not safe levels of visible light. He can adjust the 'filter' on this reflection to let in or block out pretty much anything he chooses that has a force or a direction (i.e. all physical matter, energy and waves).
>>124700107 He can always recombine himself, even if the properties of light change temporarily. Like even if you divide Kizaru, his light always "comes back" to him instead of scattering into all directions.
>>124699757 >Unless Accelerator can rewrite the law of physics/go reality breaker, he's dead. >reflection of light For Kizaru, Accel is just a fucking mirror. My mirror doesn't break causality nor rewrite physics. By the way, Accel is by definition a reality warper, as are all espers.
>>124700107 >>124699900 The whole light thing just doesn't work. Something the spped of light can not have any mass so either Kizaru doesn't move at the speed of light or he can not punch someone, just give them a slight tan. Of course lasers are a valid thing do he could do something with that.
>>124700255 >he can not punch someone, just give them a slight tan. Light still has momentum as well as kinetic energy. It has impact force, ass weird as that sounds. It's all a matter of scale, we don't know Kizaru's scale. Accelerator presumably is a no-limits fallacy considering control over all 'vectors', although the thing about Logia is that they're basically completely invincible unless you have haki. Can Accel make a black hole on the spot? Set a rock as the focus, set g = [retarded high value, something like 5 M m/s^2 and let the compression do the rest? Or maybe he can make a nuke or something?
>>124700347 >When moving at light speed your Mirror won't reflect anything so Kizaru shooting a laser at him will effectively kill him. >when moving at light speed it won't reflect >my mirror doesn't reflect light >mirrors no longer reflect light Kid, stand up, look into your bathroom mirror, and tell me if you see ANYTHING. Do you? Yeah? It's reflecting light EVERYTHING reflects light. This is because the light is the one doing the work. The mirror's not actively doing shit. Also, we have evidence of Accel reflecting light: he's an albino because UV doesn't pen his shield. UV <-> a type of E-M Radiation -> light
>>124700347 you're literally retarded. >hurr no fun allowed that's the fucking point, he has a really strong power but he's in a setting with god/world tier threats all the time, plus he got a nerf of sorts in story. >speed of light the shield is automatic, there is no reaction time. light gets reflected, sound gets reflected, anything that was a directional force gets reflected instantly and automatically the moment it touches his shield.
>>124700347 >implying laser can do shit to Accelerator. In World War 3, he tanked a mass of golden light that held enough destructive capability to wipe out Eurasia.
Also, this >“Your hairt Misaka points her finger at the hair. A normal person's hair can't be purely white, says Misaka as Misaka raises her suspicions. And your red eyes don't seem normal in a biological sense, says Misaka as Misaka tilts her head, feeling extremely puzzled.” >Though he could just ignore her question, she may continue to rattle on if he did that, so Accelerator decided to answer her question. After eating, he could just send that girl to the researchers or leave her on the streets. Thinking that he only needed to endure for a little longer, he could at least endure that trivial thing. >“This isn't natural. Maybe this is a side effect of my powers. I don't really understand it though. Whether it's my skin, hair or eyes, all the pigments on my body exist to protect my body from UV rays, but my powers can redirect any unwanted UV rays, so my body itself doesn't need pigments
>>124700347 >Yup Writer should stop. The Flash is already hilarious/cringe worthy enough. See >>124700321 Light has force, momentum, and energy. These are the same properties that your fist requires to do damage. Can we have people who know ANYTHING about physics step up? >>124700365 seems to know SOMETHING at least.
Pretty cool thread OP but Is there a character stronger than Madara Uchiha? And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. No, I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara. Hell, I'm not talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. I'm talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten'in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano'o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
>>124700504 Madara is quite powerful, but can he defeat Fiamma of the Right? And I'm not talking about post-WW3 Fiamma of the Right. I'm not talking about God's Right Seat Fiamma of the Right either. Hell, I'm not even talking about God's Right Seat Fiamma of the Right with Index remote controller. I'm talking about La Persona Superiore a Dio Fiamma of the Right with full control over the Star of Bethlehem (which is capable of monopolizing the sky, summoning an Archangel and the Heaven to Earth), along with remote access to the vast knowledge stored in 103000 grimoires, a perfect Holy Right, which basically is a "press to win" button, Fiamma could bring an end to every fight right at the point he made the challenge, the Holy Right ignored any actions taken by his opponent and simply crushed them, whether his strength or speed were inferior or not, plus a forty kilometers long flaming magical sword, an anti-god Fairy Spell, teleportation, mental communication, the ability of concealing presence to the point that not even the Norse God Odin could detect him, and with both the flesh-and-blood right arm of Kamijou Touma and Imagine Breaker absorbed into his Third Arm, Fiamma of the Right acquired the position of The One Above God, capable of recreating any of the legends in Christianity (healing the sick, reviving the dead, defeating Lucifer the Fallen Angel, etc...), saving the whole world or destroying it on a whim.
>>124700592 >Raildex has its own problems but their better hidden. With the physics? Then yeah, but Kamachi is good enough at writing vaguely accurate sounding super-sciencey bullshit that you don't notice unless you either dig or know about the field already (see also, Heavy Object).
>>124700620 let me put this in a way for you to understand. Imagine a fucking wall, does light hit the area behind the wall? that's what his fucking power is except that wall reflects shit. also >learn to read fag that's exactly what you said, light moves at the speed of light you fucking idiot.
>>124700592 >Yes this is true. However for light to interact in such a way with an object you would need such a massive amount on a small spot that a whole lot of other effects start appearing. >Light and especially the speed of light is just really strange and unintuitive to understand. I'm just relying on the fact that Kizaru seems to be able to transform his entire body mass into light, and also make light out of absolutely nothing (yakasaki no magatama or whatever) Afaik he transforms back to actually strike, only turning into light to move and stuff.
>>124700620 >When moving at light speed. What the fuck are you even arguing? What does light move at? The idea is that Accel has to actively whitelist you to get in, he's not controlling anything at all >faster than casuality Nigger what the fuck are you even saying?
>>124700620 >The author just sucks at physics. Yes, I agree, just like many cape comic tier writers, but it doesn't matter. What matter is Accelerator has canonically reflected stuffs travel at speed of light, and he once accelerated an object to near speed of light too.
>>124700620 >The author just sucks at physics. I dunno man. You seem to be pretty shit at it [physics] too, it's not good for an idiot to judge whether or not something is idiotic. >>124700739 It's superpowers, it can't obey physics otherwise the story itself falls apart. Accel's power is self consistent. >>124700762 >Delicious sandwich enters range >Not dangerous Hmm.
>>124698415 Hawking Radiation occurs outside the event horizon, it appears to radiate and will get smaller due to the nature of disallowing the destruction of matter. Nothing actually leaves the black hole itself.
>>124698415 Hawking radiation works with pairs of matter-antimatter particles last I checked (5 years ago so don't hold me to it). Most of them are particles iirc. Like neutrinos and shit, which move at near-light speed and are just outside of the event horizon, one of the pair (spontaneously generated from quantum bullshit via taking an energy loan from empty space) falls into the hole and the other escapes. The missing mass (half the pair) is made up by the black hole which actualizes the escaped particle.
>>124700255 Mass turns into energy into light ;^) >>124700321 Accelerator can only change vectors, not compress mass and even if he could, there's simply not enough mass to create a black hole. >>124700365 Kizaru's "light" hasn't been shown to interfere yet. And even if it did, it has its own properties that make it reassemble. >>124700438 >gets reflected >turns back >changes direction >>124700625 Even then, Smoker would lose. >>124700834 >>124700928 I know that the mass inside the black hole gets smaller from the negative density of one of the virtual particles, but still, light leaves the black hole and might have the same properties as the light that fell inside (informations can't be destroyed), so after 10^n years, Kizaru could potentially reassemble.
>>124700999 What is BB's full power? Vibrator + small-gravity-hole. Yeah I think Kakine can do it. >>124701054 >Accelerator can only change vectors, not compress mass and even if he could, there's simply not enough mass to create a black hole. Not what I meant, I meant change the gravity vector of the rock upon its surroundings (trivially small) to something absurd and fix it as such (make himself immune, obviously). The ground should get drawn in and thusly he can make a black hole given a few seconds. It would also destroy the world but I doubt he gives a fuck about the Four Seas.
>>124701054 Accelerator can compress mass though, that's the exact technique he used to turn a load of air molecules into a ball of plasma. Changing vectors means he can apply as much force as he wants to anything in his range.
What is the limit of Accel's 'vectors'? Is a 'position vector' still a vector? Is a 'torque vector' still a vector? Can he change scalars by pretending they are vectors in the form < x , 0 > where x is the magnitude? Can he make self-inconsistent vectors, i.e. change speed while keeping position constant / liquify someone with retarded acceleration while keeping them on one spot? >>124701199 >>124701176 No, but you seem to be children. Why the fuck did you put / ask for tomatoes inside your sandwich if you aren't eating them?
>>124701118 Normally, even black holes need at least the mass of 3.1 sun masses to become black holes. It's not even certain that black holes below that mass can even exist. >>124701148 Isn't there any kind of limit though? I mean he's still a level 5 esper and hasn't reached the god level 6 yet.
>>124701180 to be fair the concepts are a bit different. that sandwich was allowed in with all things included, the particles in the air are just reflected away. its more a question of how his white list works. If it allowed everything attached to the sandwich in, then he'd eat the poison and probably get get sick and just do some weird vector shit. if it only allows the molecules he classifies as being part of the sandwich it would fail. >>124701275 because people defaultly put everything on the sandwich regardless of what you actually want, or maybe they hid it inside to fuck with you.
>>124701279 >Normally, even black holes need at least the mass of 3.1 sun masses to become black holes. It's not even certain that black holes below that mass can even exist. Incorrect, that is the minimum requirement for a star's core to naturally collapse. This is due to the gravitational pull exceeding neutron degeneracy (quarks making themselves 'harder' to prevent getter squished). Accelerator, if he makes the F_g high enough, can immediately break that limit. >>124701313 >because people defaultly put everything on the sandwich regardless of what you actually want, or maybe they hid it inside to fuck with you. Really? You guys don't tell them exactly what you want? I'd just return a sandwich with something I told them I didn't want.
>“What in the world do you mean by that? Speaking of which, it's not a good thing to have powers that are too strong. The outside influence is too little, it seems to cause a loss of balance in the hormones, causing me to have this androgynous appearance.”
>“So are you a guy or a girl? asks Misaka as Misaka tries to uncover the truth.”
>>124701279 >Isn't there any kind of limit though It seems to be sheer number of simultaneous calculations, meaning he can make single vectors / single simple vector fields as large or small as he wants. Come to think of it, why the fuck doesn't he make a 50 kilotesla monodirectional magnetic field to rip the shit out of everyone in his way? That level could probably vaporize a human after ripping the blood from his veins.
>>124701407 >Accelerator changing oxygen to ozone One of his only weaknesses it seems, though that seems to be him being too lazy to break apart the ozone via bond-breaking. >>124701437 He's referring to Avignon after the ironsand shit that [almost] rekt Terra.
>>124701437 Yes, Avignon, after Academy City assholes turn the city into a sea of lava, Accel was like: "fuk you guys and fuk your method, watch and learn." Then he threw himself from a bomber down to the lava.
>>124701421 because people in that series are broken as fuck. iirc he used the force behind earth's revolution and attacked a building with it without doing any damage. >>124701279 it does seem like there is a kind of limit of force he can create on his own, since as I stated above, he had to use the earth's rotation to make an attack of that strength instead of making it from scratch.
>>124701279 He might be level 6 if he could affect the entre universe with his powers, but he can't.
There's no 'limit' to his power in terms of scale because he doesn't apply force or energy, all he does is essentially change some numbers in the underlying programme of reality to some different numbers. It shouldn't take any more effort for him to change a value from 0 to 100 or 0 to 100000.
>>124701582 he fairly quickly figured out what she was doing and just moved areas so it was irrelevant. it more just surprised him because he didn't expect her to use electricity that way. >>124701631 everything touma does is irrelevant.
>>124701347 Can he even manipulate vectors in subatomic space? And if he can, wouldn't the black hole just take away all the air around him, effectively killing him? >>124701357 >use alternating current >only use reactive power since it's imaginary >kill the Accelerator >>124701463 I meant stable black holes. Subatomic black holes aren't proven to exist yet and even if they do, they would instantly vaporize thanks to hawking radiation. And I think it might be too difficult even for Accelerators brain to accurately compress enough mass into a tiny spot because there are too many calculations to make to create a stable black hole. >>124701585 Oh okay, so he has a limit.
>>124701585 >iirc he used the force behind earth's revolution and attacked a building with it without doing any damage. That sounds like a conceptual barrier, seeing as it didn't outright rip Japan's teutonic plate off the mantle. >>124701591 That's the thing, Accel is a no-limits. He should be able to do literally anything but doesn't. I don't know what's considered a 'vector' but if it's just a n by 1 matrix then even scalars are just 1 dimensional vectors. Even true / false is just a choice between [1 , 0] and [0 , 1]. >>124701631 Terra has magicks. Touma was nearly dead and the lava was not on top of him, it was like 10 ft away. Itsuwa is just loldunno. >>124701662 I'm sure Accel can do something, make the space around him completely immune or some shit. Kizaru coming close will get him launched into the hole so that's that. Accel can 'turn off' the hole too, just by making g normal again.
>>124701662 The black hole's gravitational pull will not affect anything within his auto-reflect barrier. That means the air inside won't be going out, and he wont feel any tidal forces, but nothing will be coming in. Doesn't really matter since he can just move out of the event horizon anyway.
>>124701766 Terra's magick can block concepts too. >damage in general >>124701779 Nah, Accel's ability is supposedly not even approximated by 10k misakas. His mental ability was at least twice that before his injury, although he's begun to be creative making him arguably stronger.
>>124701867 If you can't suspend your disbelief for superpowers not obeying all real life physical laws then you have no business even watching a series featuring superpowers, much less grumping about it.
>>124701708 If my assumption is right you probably are annoyed by having to read subs, you really should download subbed though, especially with how good the voices are in index. Dubbed you probably have a christina vee type dubber on every girl (bad).
I dont know if i made a good enough point but you should download it subbed.
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for season 2 im too lazy to find it elsewhere because on nyaa its almost all seedless.
>>124701662 >would instantly vaporize thanks to hawking radiation Also works anyway even if it's irrelevant to Accelerator. Vaporizing means converting ALL of the remaining BH mass into energy i.e. gamma rays. A 1 kg rock into energy can fry half a continent.
>>124701908 No, yeah. That is pretty much all just character development. He has a stable life, an actual purpose and people he cares about who care about him. It's natural that he'd ben in a more stable mental state.
>>124701944 He can blacklist entire categories (eg, magic). He goes for specific stuff mainly so that he doesn't accidentally give his enemy an advantage. To survive, he just has to change Weapons of Science and Earth to escape.
>>124702001 There are plenty of ways to get at Accelerator around or through his powers, and his ability to crush his enemies is never really the crux of his stories, it's more about what he can and can't protect aside from himself.
>>124702064 Someone who doesn't mind dubs here. Index is a mixed bag, some good performances, some bad, though most main characters are the former. Railgun is pretty poor, but in the second season the actors seem to do a bit better with the material.
>>124702064 I don't like dubs mainly for the same reason I don't like English songs. Chuu2 shit gets old if you can actually understand the language, if I say something like, I dunno, Tensourin, Manjimon Kai it doesn't sound as retarded as whatever that would be in English. Sort of like how singers singing stupid cheesy things are okay if I don't know what they're saying and the song itself is good.
>>124702173 I think a lot of people underrate him because even though we understand the concept of his power, what he can and can't do is almost entirely up to the author. There are many things that -could- be vectors but aren't stated to be or ever actually addressed.
He's a character who could theoretically be the strongest in that indexverse but its entirely up to how the author wants to play it.
>>124702292 His concept is too widely applicable and too powerful. His problem is basically the same as Madara's (yeah I know I'll get attacked for this). He's too fucking strong in theory and in practice so the author has to find a way to nerf him a little. Easiest way to do that is to leave blanks and say 'no he can't', and make him stupid in fights to help even more. Madara could get killed off, but Accel has to stay alive.
>>124702292 No. The only people who think that are those who know nothing of the series aside from "how to kill Accelerator" threads. The power systems in Index are very consistent and everything Accelerator can do has been fully documented.
>>124702425 nobody because kazakiri isn't angel, and everybody who has fought an angel survived. had he stayed in the fight any longer gabriel would have killed him, even months and an epiphany later is still bad with magic. he wouldn't beat gabriel.
>>124702495 >control vectors seems pretty vague since everything can be represented as a vector. Whatever works at the time. Accel has nearly reached plot-device level during fights, he's the Aizen of fights in which he shows up. He'll job or sweep, whatever works best for the story.
>>124702495 He can control everything. He's called Accelerator because he's literally a particle accelerator in that he figures out the laws of the universe by analyzing and using his power on stuff he comes into contact with.
Everything, as long as it doesn't prevent him from using his power in the first place.
>>124702563 >not a who-beats-who chart. That chart is concepts, like how high Izzard is for a second-arc antagonist. Stiyl's Innocentius is top-tier fire magic, and self-sustaining on top of that. >>124702495 He can do anything in theory, but not much in practice do to how absurdly overpowered he is. I think he was going to be nearly one-off villain.
>>124702364 Accel's power has funny interaction with magic. Against normal human magic, his barrier protected him, but the magic projectile isn't reflected, it instead cause an unnatural phenomenon (literally created rainbow). Against angel magic, his ability seem to be capable of lessen the damage, but he got wrecked.
>>124702524 And that's not all, Gabriel pounded him ten times of that, so Accelerator ate at least 200 millions of meteor in the face. And nigga still stood up and capable of fighting after all that.
Let's talk a little about Musujime. Will she show up again at all? Her ability seems too unique and useful to be discarded, and it was said that she has potential to be a lvl 5. Also we have a shota now.
>>124702871 Please stop talking about Index's setting when you know nothing about it. Index's magic system is more documented and feels more like an actual science than the esper system, which is also magic but is kept more of a block box due to plot reasons.
Go read about Aleister Crowley and western magicks.
Esper powers are 'clap your hands if you believe in fairies', whereas magic pretty much always works by imitating properties of items, people, places or events from mythology and legend. Cendrillon weaponising the Cinderalla story was fucking great.
>>124703104 No, but the robot he used on the nerfed god put down the nerfed god.
Noukan dresses for the occasion
>This was a walk-in closet to Noukan. He could choose the appropriate clothes for the occasion and head out to the dinner party with the optimum outfit. And he would use bullets instead of manners, shells instead of etiquette, laser beams instead of affection, liquid nitrogen instead of hospitality, and killer microwaves instead of respect.
>>124703248 Latter probably, most people are animeonlyfags so they don't see anything else. Also the waifu count if through the roof. We have like, three Oriana doujins when the lady is literally sex, and no Othinus doujins SOMEHOW after the shipping arc in NT 10.
>>124703232 none of that should work, it took a god arrow to hurt a weakened othinus and she just put herself back together. also i think he might use magic
“I should get started where they left off, even if it means relying on the foreign laws they so abhorred. And I can hold my head high as I do so because that kind of rule-breaking contradiction is what it means to be a Kihara.”
>>124703309 which Acceleartor are you talking about? Did you mean pre brain damaged Accelerator? post brain damage Black Wings Accelerator? WW3 White Wings Accelerator? Too bad for you, any Accelerator could fuck Barto up casually. And don't make me mention Kami nimo hitoshii chikara no henrin wo furuu mono Angellerator with full control over his awakened state (which alone has helped him tanked an Eurasia Buster attack without using vector reflection, capable of at least Mach 15 movement speed), with supersonic reaction speed, high level intellect support by near ten thousands of espers that rival 2 super computer which can predict weather for a whole month ahead with perfect accuracy, along with high skilled markmanship, a modified crutch that hide counter measure to protect his choker from interference devices. With just his esper ability alone, Accelerator has showed to be able to survive no less than 200 millions of meteors from Divine Judgement, reflecting human magic, absorbing 5 minute worth of Earth's kinetic energy, fighting while protecting normal citizens at supersonic speed, wrecking Dark Matter without the need to unleash his Wings, reverse-engineering magic technique, accessing and editing informations stored in human brain, and last but not least, monitoring fetal development just by touching a pregnant woman.
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