Why is it that Monogatari is so fucking popular in Japan and yet has such a small cult following in the west? Is it because it hasn't really been localized? Is it because it's too open about sexuality?
I feel like it's not because of Japanese-exclusive jokes, I'm a huge fan of the series and I know minimal Japanese. To me(and likely most /a/ users) the main appeal would probably be the characters.
What the fuck is stopping Monogatari from catching on in the west?
It's artistic porn. The average age of the anime fan in the west is 15. Parents aren't going to be happy if their kid is watching it.
Also, the localization was extremely delayed AND people are more concerned with shit like SAO/SnK to care about a show where they do nothing but talk.
Monogatari isn't not a harem, but it's drastically different compared to your average harem. Most of the girls in the show just look up to Araragi, only Senjougahara and Hanekawa actually have romantic feelings for him. I guess there's Shinobu too but she's holding off until all of his friends die.
Sengoku hates him now, he's just close friends with Kanbaru, Mayoi is gone, Yotsugi isn't attracted to him, and his feelings for his sisters are one-sided.
Kiss-shot accelerated onion hat under bread
I can see where you're coming from but the extra stuff doesn't distract me enough and the sexual tension/jokes between all of them is still there. If I want a ton of sex, I'll watch/read porn, albeit this show would make the best hentai anime ever.
It's funny because I love the art and the character designs, and even a couple of characters but the show itself just does nothing for me.
Because like any actually good YA novel series getting overshadowed by Twilight, it's still an LN series in the shadow of trite garbage like SAO or Index. No matter how many great pieces of film or literature or what-have-you that you can draw similarities with, western anime fans are the kind of trash who make any such statements meaningless in a flash, no matter what you're talking about, because outsiders will just see it as "some weird high school series like that Haruhi show" and people who watch anime compulsively will spout the same retarded buzzwords that are so popular here, "edgy pretentious harem bullshit"
you speak the truth. the normies can't handle it.
Is that an Anime restaurant or something?
i liked the series from a graphics design point of view
the pacing, cuts, well done backgrounds
decent story,it had a great colour pallet in general. The typefaces were cool, it somehow made the dialogue saturated show really interesting by playing with the visuals so well.
I was quite skeptical at first and dropped this show, but managed to pick it up again after a while and give it another try, disregarding all the fansirvice I think the show is quite artistic and shaft is definateley had fun making the series
>american's showing on tv anime where the MC is a pedophilic incestuous molester
Yeah, good luck with that
That's really cool.
Somebody, somewhere, will probably take the toothbrush scene seriously
Nisemonogatari especially is way too fanservicy for the average normal. Hell, the series opens with a panty shot, that's enough to put most people off.
Because I don't break the rules like you?
When will monogatarifags get the same treatment as nardofags?
This circlejerk is disgusting.
The entire point of Monogatari is character interaction and dialogue.
It's fine if you don't like those things, but don't criticize the series just because it isn't your cup of tea.
Even I think Nise was way too fanservicy, and I say that as a fan of the series. It was just way too over the top at times.
>Why is it that Monogatari is so fucking popular in Japan and yet has such a small cult following in the west? Is it because it hasn't really been localized?
Aniplex of America is releasing them in lavishly expensive sub-only boxsets, and it has a crazy amount of dialouge and puns which would make a dub script tough so that's why it's merely cult status.
If it was released cheaper and has a dub, then it will be on par those harem fanservice shows like Highschool DxD and such
It can't be a hentai because there's no actual sex scenes in the LN's.
>Monogatari makes plebs feel smart
I have no idea why people keep saying this, I've never heard of anyone pretending it's a "deep" show. It's generally agreed to have great characters but that hardly makes it "smart".
The files were deleted, but I'm not entirely sure why.
It's pretty popular in the west, you know.
Monogatari has lots of language stuff as well. Wordplay forms the core of bake, at least. I don't think many westerners know enough Japanese to get much out of it. Not that Nisio's wordplay is all that often particularly clever...
I want to give the LN translation a try, but the first volume isn't completed.
And I haven't even touched the first season.
No, they fall back on the fact that it's a show about character interactions. If you want less talking go watch something else.
They've translated both the Nekos, Otori and Kizu. They're all pretty good
The photos weren't NSFW and they were related to the conversation.
Lot of words, not a lot of action.
Stuff like this doesn't really help it out in the west. Snail a best.
Still relatively popular though.
Too much dialogue, probably. No enough action or flashy events to keep casual western anime audience interested like
How the characters are drawn, animated, colored, etc.
a character in a moe slice of life would look considerably different then if they were in a battle shounen.
I can't quite put my finger on it, I think it had to do with the colors and how characters look like they have light shined on them. >>124747508
This is a good example
>light from the left
>close up and the right side is bright
Why? It looks bad
That's shaft for you.
Don't talk shit about my waifu though.
>the bat bath scene
I checked on the BBFC website, and it does look like that caused the 18 rating for episodes 1-4. 5-7 got a 15, but 8-11 got an 18 for incest references, among other things. The thing is, though, that the ratings are hopelessly inconsistent, and in general the distributors don't mind a higher rating because it makes the product seem more sophisticated.
You really need to study the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 because it's not as simple as that.
>tfw i have become so desensitized to fan service and loli/incest shit that i nearly recommended this to my pleb friend
its a good show, i like it, but its not very accessible for people that dont really have much anime/manga "experience". A lot of the sexualized stuff is intended as a joke, like the toothbrush scene, but if you were watching this after only watching things like SAO/ SnK that scene would be enough to drop it, assuming the heavily sexualized lolis didnt get you to already. not to mention that since theres maybe one action/fight scene every 3 or 4 episodes theres no way to get the shounen audience in on it
>in general the distributors don't mind a higher rating because it makes the product seem more sophisticated.
You mean they don't mine because 15/18 keeps mumsnet away. If something like that got a 12 ever you just know some retarded kid would buy it and because of mumsnet the daily mail would have a front page with BAN THIS SICK FILTH in huge letters the next day
thats true, i think id tried to push that out of my head. that shit was so fucking out of place, right along with asuka nearly being raped by that one dude. its like they almost managed to suppress their power levels while making it but then it just broke through a couple times
This sorta thing happens all the time though, teenagers, sorry "young adults" will think anything slightly serious and adultish must be super sophisticated. Strange how they try so hard to be grown up while adults watch stuff like Avengers
Keep in mind I'm talking about US fans. Be gentle, anons...
The OP was asking why Monogatari isn't popular in "the west". I like Monogatari as much as the next guy, but something like Eva was infinitely more marketable here in the US than Monogatari.
>Captcha was cheeseburgers
Because West is at the very pinnacle of shaming sex in media, especially from the male point of view. Something like Monogatari would never have taken off in our current political and cultural climate.