>Dear anons, Please use the spoiler option when you are uncertain that something is borderline unsafe for work.
>Dear mods, Reduce deleting and banning on /a/ for a while, when spoiler tags are used.
So we can post titties now?
I fucking hope so, I hate getting b&, even when I spoiler tag it. Thanks, Hiro.
It means don't go full on /h/, but reports for nude shots from anime shows aren't going to make a for sure ban unless it's not spoilered
He's asking anons to test the water because he was asking about adding a NSFW spoiler tag earlier so this is essentially the "beta testing" for it.
I think obviously NSFW means hentai, but again it's up to discretion of the mod.
Hiro himself is supportive of TLR titties though.
>Of course, you get banned if you post obviously NSFW images.
I'm confused, are nipples allowed or not? Most people consider female nipples to be nsfw
What about vaginas and penises so long as they are not involved in "sex acts"?
If it is obvious porn such as from a hentai, or artist drawing of sex it goes to /h/
If it is a shot of a DB, nude, or lewd scene from a show and is spoiled then it is okay now
I think the point is that you'd spoiler nudity, such as nipple shots in TLR, Prison School, etc. while actual porn like H-doujins, uncensored crotch bits and the like is still a no-no.
please don't ban me for this
But then states "This doesn't mean you can post hentai or sex images. Of course, you get banned if you post obviously NSFW images."
Which leaves it all to the mod's discretion and beliefs.
Time to test the limits.
I'll die for your sins anons.
That mod was going on a rampage.
Banned everyone in a dubs thread, whether they were dubs posting or not.
Must have been a bad day.
As expected of Hiroyuki!
Yeah let's just encourage people to misuse spoiler tags even more. That sure worked out great for quoting since now we have such high quality greentexting on boards like /v/ and /r9k/.
Is this okay?
> Banned everyone in a dubs thread, whether they were dubs posting or not.
If you aren't a newfag, that's nothing you haven't seen many times already.
> mfw people whining about nipplemod are themselves the newest on the site
This comes in the wake of a couple minor shitstorms lately around posting nipples; basically, anons complained they were being banned for posting NSFW material that were actually from anime, stating it should be acceptable if it is actually anime material (like screencaps), but a ban on NSFW fan art etc. would be fine as they're not directly anime. Hiro agreed. So basically it means: you can post NSFW material from actual animes as long as they're spoilered, but non-direct anime NSFW things aren't allowed even with a spoiler.
If it has a manga adaptation it should also be permitted, and most of the ones in the LN threads do have or at least some have so it should be permitted by extension
Does this mean I can make a Qwaser thread with impunity like we could several years ago?
No, that would be too much. The rule was always in place typically for 80s animes when characters had their shirts off or for a shower scene or nip slip.
Anything more than that is a bit much, especially when it involves two characters, fondling, etc. That belongs on /h/, /e/, /u/, /d/, etc.
I'm not saying it was unwarranted.
I was just surprised because it was an entire thread wide ban, which I don't really see too often.
Last time I saw it happen was 4 years ago on /b/.
>Which leaves it all to the mod's discretion and beliefs.
But if you use what Hiro said:
>Nudity from anime/manga = ok
>Nudity from hentai/doujins = not ok
Then it's not up to anyone's discretion or beliefs.
>It's official art
So are fan nipples not okay? Is lewd only okay if it's official? For example this is official loli butt.
There are TWO TYPES of NIPPLES.
If it's anime/manga, then Hiro said it's safe.
If it's HENTAI/DOUJIN, then Hiro said it's no go.
It's in the archives when people asked for that.
So basically, don't post nipples from hentai or doujinshi.
HAIL KAISER HIRO
HAIL NEUE REICH
HAIL KAISER HIRO
HAIL NEUE REICH
The sticky OP is "Testing Period"
There's a thread on /e/ where Hiro mentioned he was considering the nsfw tag.
This is probably a trial run before they implement an actual separate tag.
Plus implementing a new feature would take a bit of time. This is a functional stopgap in the meantime.
hiroyuki said it right there what NSFW is: no straight up /h/
or /aco/. jesus, why did he even make that board? i took a look at it and it looks like a clone of /h/, except with more shitty western art (which were on a banned list since moot didn't want fucking jigglygirls constantly sending him DMCA notices and threats to sue him)
Well it's meant for western fanart as opposed to japanese doujins. I agree that the board is largely unneeded honestly, you could just merge them together and call it /64/ or some shit honestly.
Why are the lewd threads being deleted? Some of them don't even have anything NSFW.
So, official manga/anime nipples are okay. Just for clarity though, what's the stance on edits of official work?
Considering 4chan's history, no he didn't. Mods only get canned when they disagree with the Admin in their private IRC chat or for whatever random reason. Nothing happens if they piss off the userbase.
He was asking about NSFW tag and is at an airport right now.
He made a thread on /e/ to discuss it (and move ecchi discussion to /e/ which caused backlash).
There is a good chance there will be a NSFW spoiler in the future I think.
No, there are clearly exceptions. Some anime aren't hentai, but produce hentai like scenes, that are a bit much. Besides only nips are ok, we can't post dicks and vags, that shit belongs on /h/ or /e/.
Besides it's not an issue outside of most things anyways in that regard most anime don't really have hentai like scenes that aren't hentai, that's very very rare. The only real legality issue might be when obvious lolis come into play.
Yes. Google is not very helpful on this. IQDB and Saucenao don't turn any results either. Did I overlook another way of reverse searching?
Spoiler are such a useless thing, I mean, I have spoilers disabled for years now, who still has that thing on?
Except that is classified as a hentai and belongs on /h/. If we're gonna start getting into animated hentai still counts then we might as well just say fuck it, delete /h/, and start calling this place /ah/, for ah what a shit board this has dissolved into.
It's funny to think that the mod will always now be remembered as the Nipple Wars mod.
You shouldn't even need google for that you bundle of new.
That's actually a bad idea. We used to get really bad CP and Accelerator dumps before that got set up. It got so bad at one point that the front page of /a/ turned into some sort of horrible nega-zone with no pages, HTML formatting, bans or sanity. It was like something out of a horror movie.
/sp/ and /tv/ never had to have stickies telling them how to behave.
To date, the only boards that have needed them are /b/, /v/, and now /a/.
/a/ is on /v/ and /b/'s level.
Mods, please lift my ban (Appeal ID: 5277587) I think it is due to this filter thing. Otherwise, please send an email with the link or image of what is considered to be sexualization of minority. I have not posted anything of the sort. I haven't even post lewd Illya pictures.
I don't want to change my mac address every time I access this site
So it's a Monogatari installment, huh. Thanks, I watched Bake with /a/ back when it aired but that was 6 years ago, I ignored the sequels and didn't browse the threads so I didn't recognize the style.
>You managed to live past the nipple war
And this is where reddit users who had no idea we could post nipples beforehand start abusing the feature and we slowly become /v/.
Especially once we get a NSFW tab, and people start abusing both tags for whatever the hell they want worse than what it already is.
>There are people on /a/ right now that don't use 4chanx or appchan
What the fuck man.
He cleared this up, basically outright sex, legit hentai, sex doujinshi, sex fanart or whatever.
If tits happen to show up in aired anime, manga or official art, they should slide so long as you consistently spoiler them.
Basically this is the exact status quo we have had for years which was clarified several times by other mods; Hiro simply held the line rather than let a meddling mod arbitrarily change it.
Well my second choice was
Dance in the Vampire Bundto which I read the manga.
>Please use the spoiler option when you are uncertain that something is borderline unsafe for work.
>Of course, you get banned if you post obviously NSFW images.
This is ambiguously worded.
A girl in a swimsuit would be "unsafe" for the vast majority of workplaces, but it would clearly be allowed on any blue board on 4chan.
The sticky needs to read instead, very clearly:
>nudity from non-H anime/manga/BD/OVA/movies is OK but should be spoilered
>nudity from H stuff, obvious porn, sex, penetration, genitals, etc. should not be posted
I have posted this image a number of times in Ninja Slayer threads over the last months. Never got banned for it either. As long as I'm allowed to continue to post this and stuff like it, I won't complain.
>it was a problem of an insubordinate mod acting out of line
It was a problem of you jackals (correctly) coming to think that you could manipulate Hiro into changing the power balance of the site. Don't pretend it was anything else.
Hiro has said nipples from fanart are NG.
38 minutes, not 45.
Enough for 500 kills/woundings, the sinking of the HSS Glasgow, two boats, and the destruction of a shore battery.
YOU CAN'T STOP US.
I don't exactly understand how. I'm not proud of my ignorance and lack of being up to date, I'm just explaining that I didn't discover /a/ this summer unlike what some people accused me of, and I don't watch Shaft shows that much. I still remember the anontalk spam, Canaan vs Bakemonogatari shitposting and Umineko trolling in 2009.
I think it's so we know officially that nipplemod lost and the status quo remains what it's been for years.
This whole deal is also new for Hiro and Valkyrie really threw a curve ball in being incredibly tit/yuri heavy with full nipples, unusually so for an airing anime, so it pushed the guidelines we have to their limits. However it simply is not worth backtracking a long held convention just for one show (which will be forgotten in like 3 months anyway) so he held the line.
What if the fanart image is censored but still very lewd? How lewd can you get without showing nipple or anus or genitals? Is yogurt semen okay?
He hasn't been jaded into hating his userbase yet.
And don't pretend that moot couldn't be moe when he wanted to.
Why is he making posting guidelines more restrictive than they were administered before? He was our ally! He was supposed to destroy nipplemod, not join him!
If nothing else this affair helped Hiroyuki assert his authority. Admin has the final word, period. For the better or for the worse. We're lucky he's willing to listen to us.
No, it was us defending the status quo as supported by the site owner from a likely underage fuck who let the power of his new modship get to his head. When an employee disobeys his boss, he deserves to be fired.
Nipples the Moderator fucked with the power balance first by getting his panties in a twist over nipples. We were posting NSFW stuff in very much the same way we had been for ages, which we had the tacit and in some cases explicit okay from from both moot and mods from before. Nipples decided that nipples were banworthy, which started this mess.
tl;dr, Mods drew first blood, we drew last blood
Mootykins would've dealt with this like how he did with Redwood shitting all over /a/. It just would've suddenly stopped because moot told him to go back to his own board or get fired.
Pretty much all of last season people were getting banned posting TLR and Valkyrie Drive promotional images, manga pages, and webms.
Finally the season started and VD threads were getting nuked non stop which caused people to finally geek out.
I completely forgot we still had that board.
So you left the /e/ thread and came here? Just give up while you're ahead.
None of this was an issue until the mod took issue with it, there is no real change but only reverting back to how things were.
A webm from Valkyrie Drive that included 2 characters rubbing their bare, uncensored nipples together until orgasm. The mod posted in the thread telling anons they weren't allowed to post any ecchi images or webms from the show because it was too lewd. In the ensuing backlash, Hiro started posting and got a big debate going over a compromise. The mod ignored it all and made that sticky right as soon as Hiro left, sparking a 3-day shitstorm over nipples.
Alright, then is this okay? Looks completely censored to me, but quite obviously very lewd.
> defending the status quo
Oh, now you're going full Orwellian with newspeak.
> Nipples the Moderator fucked with the power balance first by getting his panties in a twist over nipples.
It was nothing to produce a shitstorm over. If moot was still there and you didn't feel you could prey on Hiro's uncertainties, this would all have been over on Sunday. You deliberately upset the status quo so you could be allowed to do more shit under the radar.
Why does /e/ even exist? If you want hot doujins or hentai go to /h/, and if you want to discuss a lewd but non hentai series go to /a/. We already have character threads devoted to how much we want to fuck certain female characters and fanart of that respective character is dumped in those threads.
What's the point now in even having /e/?
You can see her nipple clearly through the gap in her fingers.
It's not spoilered
Like c'mon guy, this shit ain't complicated. Niggas like you and
are going to end up ruining it for all of us.
Honestly I think it's a sleeper agent with an agenda who used moots absense to attempt to shape the site to his vision.
A mod using language like "basically pornography" was the only red flag I needed. Only way it could be more obvious is if he said "problematic"
This fight is far from over. Nipplemod is still not fired.
>You deliberately upset the status quo so you could be allowed to do more shit under the radar.
This. What a fucking dumb turn of events just because a few people got butthurt their Valkyrie Drive webms were deleted (not even banned).
How far can I go
You know it's probably Kinomod right? Fucker even said he's been keeping the status quo for years with this NSFW shit and he's the only known mod that even gives a shit about /a/.
I'm going to keep posting questionable content. Let me know what you guys think.
This pic has no genitals, nipple or anus but what looks to be yogurt or semen, could be either or.
Yes it is fanart, but it's censored in a way.
Plastic Memories has plenty of /h/ material.
so casual nip shot ass shot panty shot in an otherwise not lewd series is ok as long as it's spoilered
full on sex scene even when spoiled in ecchi or hmanga is bannable?
that is what I was able to get out of that.
Considering his favourite meme is pedobear, I'd assume Hiro is more familiar with 4chan how it was in 2008 than nowadays.
I'd spoiler that just because it's lewd enough to be worth spoilering, even though it's clearly not nsfw.
This should be pretty straightforward. If the content is questionable, spoiler it. By the end of the week, most of /a/ will be browsing with images automatically unspoilered so it won't effect anyone that actually wants to see the images you've posted.
I think the simplest guideline is: if you have to ask, then spoiler it. Not because you'll be banned if you don't, but because that's the whole point of using spoilers this way.
Nice try Nipplemod, you ain't framing Kino for this one.
>he's the only known mod that even gives a shit about /a/
Every shit mod that gets complained about here have "given a shit about" /a/ because they wanted to reshape it to their own ideals.
I suspect it is but I hope he doesn't admit it.
He has always been the barrier between /a/ and the rest of the site, a man is entitled to make a mistake but some of the autists in /a/ can't see past the now.
There was a bit of shitposting on the other side too.
If it was Kinomod he wouldn't have changed the status quo or gone against the administrator like nipplemod did. Not to mention he wouldn't have said any of the retarded newfag red flags nipplemod did.
>I don't get your meaning.
A lot of people have left the site because of moot's very low quality/low effort style of running things. Even many of us who have been around for years merely tolerated it. For proof, when he made /q/, it absolutely erupted with complaints about unfair moderation, lack of transparency and vindictive moderators, which would not have happened if he'd been doing "the best job" of running the site.
>Honestly I think it's a sleeper agent with an agenda who used moots absense to attempt to shape the site to his vision.
>A mod using language like "basically pornography" was the only red flag I needed. Only way it could be more obvious is if he said "problematic"
>This fight is far from over. Nipplemod is still not fired.
You cant censor me, faggot
I think an /l/ thread got a full ban a few years back. I posted in it saying it was /l/ as hell and got banned with everyone e else. Actually spent the better part of the next day appealing the ban as I had an appointment with /tg/ to keep and was able to have it reversed.
Speaking of /tg/ they had thread bans all the time a few years back when the insane nazimod ruled there.
This is the webm that saved /a/.
Be sure to remember it.
>There are still delusional idiots who truly believe that 4chan isn't a weeb site.
This never would have happened if HE were here.
Plain old titties.
So if something is a little lewd, but fanart, it's bannable. Pic related for example. But if it's super lewd, but official it's okay.
I don't play video games, but okay. Thanks for letting me know where it's from, crossboarder.
Lots of people on /q/ were just whiny newfags, moot always did a fairly solid job when he got involved.
I for one have never felt I didn't deserve a ban I received, some people just think their shitposting should be allowed.
>Fucker even said he's been keeping the status quo for years
By quoting this post, which got posted plenty of times whenever VD images got deleted, word for word.
He obviously is someone who's never been here before.
I still think it's a good solution, since currently there's no way to tell between a NSFW spoiler and an actual spoiler
though honestly when was the last time anyone actually used spoilers appropriately on /a/?
This is the first time this season I used caps for emphasis, while you lot have been doing it from the very beginning. You don't get to criticise me.
> It doesn't happen
How much of a newfag can you be? No, seriously, were you even there when noko was a thing?
>butthurt faggot, probably from /v/ or /qa/ who doesn't even know what TLR stands for
>still screaming and griping ITT, /e/, and /qa/
Red alert, boys.
Well, now that the moderation side did their part, it's time the users do their's, since there are obviously going to be faggots that just want to shitpost and will try to spam obviously straight up /h/ fanart shit to get it deleted and try to stir shit up, add those to the fuck off list with newfags and crossboarders.
>/v/ throws a shitstorm so big it causes moot to resign eventually
>nothing gets changed for them
>/a/ throws a shitstorm much smaller at least twice (lolimod and nipplemod)
>we get our way
But it's non-official nipple outline. According to to other anons that is a bannable offense.
Everyone keeps posting conflicting information and acting like it's matter of fact.
>One man's shitposting is another man's normal conversation
Yeah, the normal conversation of a normalfag shitposting board like /tv/ or /mu/. You should get banned for as long as possible if you try to bring that shit to /a/.
> A lot of people have left the site because of moot's very low quality/low effort style of running things.
Is this your way of complaining about gator shit being flushed off the site? Moot was a bloody blessing for this site.
> For proof, when he made /q/, it absolutely erupted with complaints about unfair moderation, lack of transparency and vindictive moderators, which would not have happened if he'd been doing "the best job" of running the site.
You're full of shit. It's inevitable for a site like 4chin to get a lot of complaints, and that you try to use that as an argument means that you are grasping at straws.
of course, /a/ and /jp/ are the lifeblood of this site
Here's a simple guideline, guy
>Do I have to ask "Should I spoiler this?"
If yes: spoiler it
I know you're trying your damnedest to play dumb and post lewd all the while but this is really just silly.
Lurk more you fucking faggot. Nothing changes.
Why couldn't he just let the whole thing die down on its own? Only complete retards, whether mod or anon, don't understand what is and isn't acceptable without needing every fucking detail covered. A single mod making an ass out of himself doesn't warrant a rewrite of the rules any more than an anon posting NSFW content does, both just need a simple ban.
> know nip too well to perceive 「とラブる」 as an acronym
> newfags and cretins latch onto this of all things
I don't know what's wrong with you people.
so its just the spoiler still? how is this any different than before?
Mate every TLR thread literally has TLR in the title/OP and they've been around for years.
Not knowing what TLR is instantly is without a doubt saying "I don't browse this board but I will fight for its rights"
The problem was that we had a mod going around banning anything with so much as a hand on a breast for the last few days. If the mod had just chilled out and let things cool down, I doubt it would've been much of an issue.