casual normalfag here. gt has much better plot, art style, villains, transformations, etc. (later in the series, after the goku\trunks\pan in space arch). tried to watch a few episodes of super, it's just awful all the way around.
>>133031647 She calls him Goku-sa, but she means to call him Goku-san. It's not only to show off how her character is a hick with an accent, but her constant referring herself as "ora" instead of ore, a more polite form for women like watashi instead of boku, it shows how uneducated and informal she is.
In my opinion, she tries to refer to her husband so formally because that is her character, someone who lacks understanding. It speaks volumes as to why she wanted Gohan to be a scholar when you realize that Chi-Chi was never educated.
>>133032487 Why? The way you describe it, she's basically punishing everyone around her for her own insecurities, despite making no effort to address those same issues in herself. You don't protect someone like that, you give them a fucking wakeup call. She's a parasite of the worst kind.
DBS, in terms of comedy has been alright so far. But it truly is lacking a good villain to put the series as a "Dragon Ball" for me.
DBGT may not have been canon, and of course DBS is still ongoing, but I at least enjoyed some of the fights on DBGT.... or looked forward to the plot involving the villains and all. Well, we'll see what DBS turns into. But really they need to cut out on the whole parenting bullshit.
I think the original dragon ball series is miles better than DBZ and DBS. When they decided the silly boy with the tail is actually apart of the "saiyan race" and can go through phases of yellow hair lengths is when it got really stupid. DB had story and nice characters, everything after that is just grunting and power balls. It's hard to believe it comes from the same writer, watching the former version of this series you would never predict the huge drop in quality.
>>133032487 She really needs to understand her family has the right to make their own choices. Goku, for example, can't be a family man, not matter how much she dislikes it. And still after 20 years of marriage she still can't understand this. If she wants a normal man, she should divorce Goku and marry some normie. Even Gohan is begging to understand the importance of training to protect Earth, and in the future arc this can be Gohan's final development. Hopefully Chi Chi will be able to get some development or fuck off.
Just wondering since I saw some manga translations where beerus says a lot of shit to goku after their fight (about the universes, about whis being his master, etc) and since it wasn't mentioned on the anime I was wondering if it was true or not.
>>133019952 I really am not fond of GT but by now Super is taking us for complete retards, even worse it dares to drag shit to no end in addition to the crappy contents. It's like watching Dragon Ball dying in slowmo.
Super continues down the path of boredom that DBZ was on after Namek. It seems to continue the cycle of 'just beat the previous bad guy, the next is even more powerful, so we better train in montages'. You could see the God of Destruction thing as a continuation of the Kais and their mythos. I'm not a fan of the SSJ God name (probably could have gone with something else for the English dub, but no) nor do I really like the premise.
GT went nuts on introducing new elements AND rehashing old elements, in a not very creative manner. It's Pilaf who makes Goku a kid (didn't enjoy Pilaf in Super either, why use a character that didn't stand a chance against Goku as a kid over and over?) with pumped up Dragonballs that Kami made, even though the regular ones were destroyed along with his fusion to Piccolo. Then they magically spread over the entire galaxy. While they have pretty much always looked for the Dragonballs on Earth with multiple people in DBZ, now they're going easy with just one team. Goku has to rediscover his SSJ powers, Trunks is useless and nobody figures that stowaway Pan could be returned to Earth over taking her along.
Then there's Baby (his plot is basically a rewritten 'Plan to Eradicate the Sayjins') and magic SSJ 4 that turns Goku into an adult, but only in that form. Also; fur, but not everywhere. Also; red eyeshadow.
Then there's Super 17 which makes no sense (it takes Goku 20 episodes to remember that androids 19 and 20 could also absorb ki attacks) and the dragons who, despite Shenron not being stronger than he who made him, are more powerful than anyone would have been at the end of Z.
Honestly, people who think GT is better than Super are the same kind of morons who will say Star Wars ep1 is better than 7, or who say MGS4 is better than MGSV: nostalgia fags.
>>133038017 What are you talking about retard, did you watch the end of the episode?
Goku and Chi Chi fighting like that is simply WHAT THEY DO. >In the end Goku is always like that then Goku says something to whis like >Don't worry, Chi Chi always understands
>>133038610 Bulma agreed with Chi Chi's POV you fucktard, you didn't understand the point that she didn't want them to decide for Pan to be a fighter and wanted to make Videl take a part on it. When Videl says she wants to let Pan do whatever she likes Bulma says to ChiChi >It'll be ok then And ChiChi drops the matter. >inb4 she made Gohan study No she didn't, he loves it.
>>133034163 Chi-chi loves Goku though. Even when he doesn't fit her ideal of what a husband should be, she doesn't want to just...leave him. Also Chi-chi is old fashioned as FUCK. There's no way in hell she'd ever divorce. I'm pretty sure her entire idea of marriage comes from old magazines.
>>133054757 Honestly, I doubt Krillin woulda put up with Bulma's bull shit. Even though both him and Goku are dumb hicks, Krillin always seemed to be more aware of how obnoxious Bulma was than Goku was.
>She rather have her son study than have the world saved and all the other people who were her friends from childhood she calls losers and lowlifes. Were they friends? I'm pretty sure Chi-chi only met Bulma once and she was dressed like a Bunny. She only met Yamcha once and he hit on her before knocking her out. And Master Roshi who helped put out fry pan mountain. I don't think she ever met Krillin, Tenshinhan Chaozu or literally anyone else before the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament. And even then she only met Bulma, Oolong, Roshi and Yamcha very briefly, for one day when she was a kid. She doesn't know those people. The only thing she knows is that Goku's friends with those people. Which isn't saying much because Goku makes friends really easy.
And yeah. She's rather her son be safe at home studying than at ground zero of a big earth threatening disaster. I too would not like my 4 year old to fight lord freeza. Nor have my 9 year old to fight A super android made of all the cells of the strongest warriors on the planet. She doesn't want a dead son and/or a dead husband. I think at some level she understands that they NEED to go do this, but at the same time, while she knew Goku was "a fighter" she didn't expect him to be THE SAVIOR OF EARTH. If goku just got into street fights or tournament fights or non-life threatening stuff like that, I think she'd be fine.
You failed completely. Chi Chi has one exchange with Goku as a child and had a crush with him. He made her a promise to marry her as kid and she fell for him
She saw years later and was still in love with him. She didn't see how dysfunctional and how much of a bum he would grow up to be. The young Goku she saw was a bright strong boy who had a pure heart and that is what she loved about him. In no way could a teenage Chi Chi predict he would ditch her and his son to be training as a dead guy in the other world.
Selfish bitch? The woman wants her son to be nothing like her and be independent and successful. Why do you think she nags him so much and constantly pressuring him to study? Chi Chi just wants normality and yes she does bitch a lot but it because she is a in pickle. She loves how Goku is the same powerful, pure and masculine man as she met him but she wants stability in her life. Chi Chi has heard that Goku died twice. No women alive would be cheery and be nag free with all the crap Goku throws her.
>>133056308 Bulma is a super genius who was inventing things that even the greatest scientific minds on earth struggled to grasp.
Chi-chi is a dumb hick who spent her life killing dinosaurs and being raised by a literal barbarian while living in the middle of nowhere.
Also Bulma doesn't "respect" it. She tolerates it. Bulma's always been her own person. She's much more independent than someone like Chi-chi. Even when Yamcha and her were dating you'd almost have to be Reminded that because she's rarely hanging off of him or cuddling him or anything. Vegeta and Bulma work because they're both very independent and both aren't very affectionate.
As shown in this episode I don't think Bulma and Goku would work nearly as well. Goku's kinda push and needy when it comes to what he wants. He's always been like a kid brother to Bulma. And while he doesn't have GREAT chemistry with Chi-chi, at least they're both dumb hicks. I feel like the fact that they're both rural and uncultured lets them see each other in a very comfortable light. But that's just me.
Of course she was a cool kung fu chick in the beginning....she had no responsibilities.
Husband doesn't have a job or bring in any income. Always fighting aliens or being that want to destroy the world. Son also gets involved in the fight for this. Any semblance of a normal family is gone and she has to constantly worry about her husband and boy dying. Of course she would be high strung and seem bitchy.
If my son or wife went out to a fight that could very likely cause them death I would be freaking out.
>>133057199 >If my son or wife went out to a fight that could very likely cause them death I would be freaking out. Oh please, with the dragonballs in place death means nothing. And even if it did, Goku can retain his body in the afterlife AND teleport between the world of the living and the world of the death in literally an instant.
>>133058368 > Goku can retain his body in the afterlife AND teleport between the world of the living and the world of the death in literally an instant. Can he? Because he's literally never done that. Ever. Because if he could do that, why would he even need Baba's 1-free-day back on earth in the Buu saga.
>>133059154 I think that dead people just aren't allowed to go back to the land of the living. It's probably against the rules. But yeah, for all intents and purposes, Goku teleporting from the afterlife to earth while he's dead is impossible. And even then Goku decided to stay dead because he was worried that if he stayed on earth he'd continue to attract bad things to happen (funny enough, the ONE DAY he comes back Majiin Buu awakens and basically kills everyone on earth)
>>133057346 Toriyama just wanted to write the original arc about sheltered Gohan being forced to toughen up and learn to fight, to contrast him sharply with Goku. Chichi had to be written that way to necessitate it.
And then we just get a whole lot of flanderization after that, especially in anime filler, making Chichi into a mega bitch.
There is something that feels right when I watch it because it feels that their universe makes somehow sense where there is space for normal life. The details is that the slice of life episodes aren't any school/pool/beach/insertfanservicehere kind of episodes and somehow even with comedy the series universe can be taken more seriously (not just characters that say they are the most powerful and edgy af like some shows). BUT I have to say some of the things make me cringe, but that is directly from the animation itself which I realize how bad it can be sometimes.
I like super but that is because I think I can know how bad it can be or good at it gets. Expectations are low already so I watch it almost like I don't want DB to go away.
>>133057199 >Of course she was a cool kung fu chick in the beginning....she had no responsibilities. Please shut your stupid mouth.
She could have entered any of the tournaments that were missing the powerhouses she knew and been a millionaire set for life. Had she joined any of the numerous Lucifool tournaments he'd been in she'd be one of the most powerful people on the planet through money alone.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina (Whis) with the Saiyan's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls him, and is overjoyed to find out that he has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when Beerus recounts the previous day's confessions to Goku, he only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the Saiyan he called is not the same Saiyan he fell in love with. In fact, he doesn't exist in this universe at all. He is Kakarrot's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the God of Destruction's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of his crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of CHAOS.
Unable to confish, she is fished by a pisces ex sakana with the fish's fish. Never fishing the strange fish, she immediately fishes her, and is overfished to fish out that she has a fish on her as well.
But, the next fish, when she fishes the previous day's fishes to the fish, she only fishes at her with a fished expression. After some fish, she fishes out that the fish she fished is not the same fish she fish in fish with. In fact, she doesn't fish in this fish at all. She is the fish's alternate fish, who has fishen in fish with the fish's own fish, who too is blissfully fish of her fish.
Fishes ensue as the two fish up a fish to fish each other their darkest, most private fishes in order to fish the other with the fishes they need to fish the fish of their other fishes. While the two fish their respective fishes, fish fishes as they fish to fish in fish with each other instead and fish the NATURE of FISHING.
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