>>133062273 What you must understand, is that Anno was never really that great to begin with. The only reedeming quality this man had was that he was a ruthless dictator in the office, and therefore pushed everyone beyond their limits. He himself never had any talent for writing or animating, and only barely any understanding of what the demographic wanted.
When he started making money and becoming famous for "his" works it went to his head, and he thought he could do it himself. This is why everything is so shit lately, because it's Anno's work and not his mistreated henchmen.
Number two there because Evangelion means money. Throw some designs with no strings attached out there, bam, it's selling greatly already.
That brings us to number three, ease. A large portion if not the majority of the fanbase only needs to be pandered to with shallow characters and promises of eternal escapism, and that will guarantee a loyal following.
But what sort of escapism? The escapism the director wants for himself of course. If you think it's any coincidence that Anno's favorite characters get the longest straw and the ones he dislikes the most gets the shortest, think again. To make up for his own otaku insecurity, changes to Evangelion are thusly made and we have number one accounted for.
The product is currrent state Evangelion, the "post-Q" Evangelion that has no story or purpose besides selling and popularizing the anime characters the writers like the most.
>>133066057 It's got a direction but it's a direction that's so bad it'd be better if it truly was directionless. Most bad scenes, story developments or any poor element in Rebuild is a deliberate decision.
It's simple to figure out if you just put your mind to it, if you had written Rebuild 3.0, why would you have written it this way? What would be your end goal?
Or simpler, what can we say are the objective results by the end of 3.0, what does it establish in a way that's impossible to contradict, and why wouldn't this be Anno's goal?
I understand the original, its troubled development history, and the creator's interviews (as well as admissions from the staff). I started with reboot/remake series and after 3.0 it killed all interest in the series.
No way can Anno undo this clusterfuck. I think the series is dead at 3.0, isn't this similar to how fans felt with the last episodes (before the original movie was made)?
>>133068031 >I think the series is dead at 3.0, isn't this similar to how fans felt with the last episodes (before the original movie was made)? Nope. The original Evangelion went through 26 episodes and two movies over the course of nearly three years. That's roughly 11 hours of content give or take, doing the math in my head. That also concluded the story and went into depth with the characters. That's what made the thing popular and work in the first place.
Over the course of nearly five years, Rebuild stands at five hours of content. Total time with no conclusion in sight is now eight years. Nearly a decade, meaning Rebuild has been Evangelion for almost half it's existence.
Rebuild will never have the character or story quality it deserved to have or could have had. But Anno can very easily undo the clusterfuck he's created. It'd be so simple for anyone with any insight into Evangelion and it's fanbase to do.
However, that will never happen because the clusterfuck you've observed is Anno's end goal, if anything, he will reinforce the current clusterfuck and the trends he's created..
>>133062273 The real question here is: Will he do it again?
Studio: Gainax Director: Hideaki Anno Writer: Hideaki Anno OST Composer: Hideaki Anno
A watermelon falls in love with a truck.
Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with a image hash. Never minding the strange thread, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the truck he called is not the same truck he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the truck's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the watermelon's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most smug kaworu and asuka shitposts in order to equip the other with the QUALITY coding they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, TUMBLING ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the MASTER ANNO.
>>133068388 >>133068439 >The normies and the rest are BTFO. Except Evangelion is normie as fuck. Even now, dozens of clothing lines are being released; even fucking childrens clothes and regular Japanese families are buying them like crazy. The otaku are the only one shut out, forced to remain shitposting on 2ch.
>>133068582 How are otaku shut out when they are getting pandered to a shitton? In the same franchise making clothes lines they are making figurines for them. And fujoshi aren't any different to them except female and into 2d boys fucking instead of 2d girls fucking a self insert.
>>133068760 >For most lines it's fujoshi bait, where it's directly advertised as Kawoshin clothes. And how is this not normie? Reminder that these fujoshi are your typical Japanese schoolgirl surrounding by friends that you'll see walking down the street.
>>133068803 >>133068734 >>133068760 >niggas not realizing how normalfag Eva is in Japan The public episode 1 airing for the BD release in busy cities in Kanagawa prefecture was normie-central. Nips with their girlfriends, families, and children went to go see it. The Eva store is right in the center of Tokyo, where any typical nip will go to get cool merch. Go to Hakone, the tourist town below Mt. Fuji where the elderly and foreigners go, and Evangelion vending machines and stores will be right there. Go to your nearest convenience store like Lawson, Eva merchandise right there at the counter. It's normalfag as fuck, you niggas don't know what you're talking about.
>>133068836 A typical Japanese boy will carry around an Asuka clearfile to school and a typical Japanese girl may have a Kaworu keychain on her schoolbag.
Let me tell you something, Kaworufags, fujoshi etc... are a major spending force that are just a subset of otaku. Fujoshi doesn't mean "female otaku", it's a sub-grouping of otaku for females that specifically enjoy yaoi content. But having said that, a fujoshi is also by necessity a female otaku. For males there in the same category there is "fudanshi" I believe. You'll find otaku walking down the streets and regular people into EVA as well.
The same characteristics insofar spending willingness as well as obsessiveness applies, only with arguably lighter requirements for quality and a more direct focus on simplicity.
>>133068971 There's a clothing line specifically marketing towards children with Kaworu and Shinji as the basis. Therefore, who is the advertisement aimed for? Obviously, mothers looking for clothes for their children. As normal as it would be for a mother to buy Spongebob clothes for her son, a nip mother would buy this for her children.
>>133068961 Are you illiterate? My post said nothing about that. You claimed otaku are "shut out" when that is clearly not the case. Fujoshi are otaku and get pandered to. 3.33 kept all the girls young and marketable(and single) and also introduced a new one outta fucking nowhere to be an imouto character they can make figures of.
>>133068971 Likewise, fujoshi are much more normal than you think. This Kawoshin advertisement was displayed at a fucking sports stadium for the whole world to see. It's normalfag as fuck, and you need to get over it.
>>133068961 You're getting concepts confused. Evangelion is Evangelion, and Rebuild is Rebuild, particularly 3.0.
FYI the discussion earlier concerned itself mostly about the reaction/audience for 3.0, and for that the normie, serious or random moviegoer is left out as they don't have anything to really do with the movie unless they have an otaku interest in it. The plotlines and characters are non-existent, there is nothing for them there. That means they're "BTFO".
Otaku, male or female have children or boyfriends, you're operating with words you don't quite understand.
Moreover you're not understanding that one store in Japan's otaku neighborhoods don't really serve the entirey of Japan, a nation of a hundred million and more inhabitants.
>>133069125 >Evangelion is Evangelion, and Rebuild is Rebuild And all this merchandise and advertising is after 3.0, using characters from Rebuild. Likewise, nips don't differentiate the two. Why would they?
>Otaku, male or female have children or boyfriends, you're operating with words you don't quite understand. Actually, this is you. Otaku does not have the same connotation it has in the west, Otaku in Japan does not mean schoolgirls or people with families or children.
You don't just put this shit in a busy intersection for little preschoolers to pass by and see and call it only for otaku. It just doesn't work, and shows your ignorance plenty. Go to Japan sometime and see for yourself.
>>133069103 >Likewise, fujoshi are much more normal than you think. Not really. Targeted advertising pales in comparison to e.g nation-wide televisions broadcasts, where Kaworu (the central part of kawoshin) is completely absent.
I recommend you stop doing damage control for your own "grouping", if you will. You're not making any headway and it's not going to work, you don't really make any points.
You also seem to completely misunderstand what an otaku or a fujoshi is, a fujoshi is a female otaku interested in fictional male homosexual relations. It's a shallow guilty pleasure, for others a complete perversion all depending.
The main point however, is that 3.0 and Rebuild in general has tuned up the fujoshi-pandering and therefore, logically also the otaku pandering. Hence this grouping rather than a normalfag (hint: not an otaku, fujoshi or otherwise) are completely left out and so are any other viewer interested in it for more than moe.
Unless you have the time and autism to involve yourself for days at an end adoring and fanwanking an anime, 3.0 or Rebuild is not for you.
>>133069275 >No, that's not what Otaku means. Nice source there Kaworufag.
>You don't just put this shit in a busy intersection for little preschoolers to pass by and see and call it only for otaku You do - that in particular is an advertisement for pachinko, basically low-key japanese brainless gambling slot machines.
>>133069275 >And all this merchandise and advertising is after 3.0, using characters from Rebuild. Which is the point, and the details of both Rebuild and the merchandising also reveals it's nature and relationship with it's fans, which is heavily targeted towards fujoshi and anime otaku.
>Actually, this is you. >Otaku does not have the same connotation it has in the west, Otaku in Japan does not mean schoolgirls or people with families or children. It definitely does, even if it is used as a negative remark. The original 'otaku' were indeed family fathers and mothers, heading down to Akihibara to buy "home goods", i.e luxurious electronics and gadgets for the house.
Otaku, a word which translations relates to "home", is therefore a word used to describe such luxurious homely activities that don't require anything but spending money and worship.
It's clear how that relates to anime otaku, who in place of electronics purchase anime goods and merchandise. Moreover the element of obsessiveness and mania is important, because you have fiction otaku, train otaku, military otaku, and even insect otaku, people who obsess over what is essentially, a luxury or a hobby.
These are family fathers and wives even today, and also disillusioned youth both otaku and fujoshi.
For Kaworufags and Kawoshin, and 3.0, the relation is obvious. Massive pandering in the movie to the point where it ruined the movie for any normalfag, and an aggressive marketing campaign to capitalize on fujoshi.
>>133069300 >actually tries to handwave Kawoshin at a gigantic sports stadium as 'non-normalfag' Alrighty.
Thanks for making a fool of yourself once again.
>>133069331 >>133069448 Hey man, I showed you the pictures. No need to samefag and try to divert topics because you've somehow realized you don't know what you're talking about. I honestly urge you to visit Japan sometime, it's a wonderful country, and of course, Evangelion is everywhere no matter where you go. I'd show you more pictures I took if you're interested.
>>133069552 Bringing advertising to the masses does not imply that it's "normalfag" material. It's just advertising that despite how much you ignore it, prove exactly what anons including myself have been saying all this time:
Targeted advertising towards fujoshi through kawoshin. Not through storytelling, production of quality works, but through merchandising and pandering.
Also I'm not >>133069448 You clearly are both paranoid and insane.
>>133069538 >Otaku, a word which translations relates to "home" And before I go I just want to point out that this is actually incorrect. お宅, being the word for home uses the お as an honorific whereas オタク is just one entire word written in kana. オタク originates to referring to people with obsessive interests who do not want to leave their house. Of course, the meaning has changed overtime to specify Anime; but the origins are there. And then of course hikikomori / NEET replaced the whole not leaving house aspect.
I suggest next time you try to enter this kind of topic, you first do your research, or at least try to go to Japan once. That should tell you more than enough. I recommend Kanagawa ken, but even in the more inaka areas you can find plenty of Eva as well; which really seals the deal on how normalfag it is. Even today.
Nobody is saying they aren't advertising Kawoshin, but you aren't making the logical or rational connections here. Said advertising is promoted and allowed by Khara, and they are seasoned marketers going for a specific group.
Said group are fujoshi, who are by definition not normalfags like the regular moviegoer pointed out earlier, much less a generic anime fan. You aren't understanding that most moviegoers or television audiences have very, very little tolerance for the kind of nonsense that Kawoshin is, in particular 3.0 even if we ignore those elements.
There is no story, there aren't any conclusions, nor anything of importance besides the basic elements to make for a yaoi-tinted picture. The bare basics only, for the otaku (fujoshi) to construct for themselves.
I make it here a fact that normalfags do not have the patience, the desire nor even the inclination to passionately follow such a franchise for so many years.
Those "normalfag" viewers is why 3.0 is the worst rated piece of Evangelion media, because they watched it and were insulted. The otaku, the fujoshi, they kept going because they are the only one so abnormal as to watch a movie several times despite the movie not delivering.
>>133069636 You wouldn't see such advertisements as a sports stadium or as the basis for an infamous children's clothing line.
Only because Evangelion is as normalfag as it is can this be a thing. It's an exception. Likewise, fujoshi are never regarded on the same level as otaku; it just doesn't work. You see girls in highschool who attend these Kawoshin circle events, just regular kids who like the idea of two cute boys together. Otaku have more obscene interests and can usually be pointed out by their lack of friends and their ugly or fat looks; they tend to reject hygiene as well. But I'm sure you know all about that taking a gander at yourself. There's quite a difference, and one is certainly more normalfag and acceptable than the other.
You go to twitter, vine, or facebook: you see them. You don't see otaku.
>>133069767 Nothing you've said is at odds at what I've claimed, though. You're even clearly being misleading concerning the wording. Are you just pretending not to be BTFO before you cower away with your tail between your legs? Pathetic.
I suggest the next time you write anything relating to Evangelion, or even express your opinion, you leave your rampant Kaworufaggotry in the trash, where it belongs along with Kaworu.
I recommend you grow up, start taking reality for what it is and accept that Kaworu is despite the amount of pandering, screentime he gets, is still as shallow a character as he was when he only had a couple of minutes on the screen.
>>133070119 You do realize the greentext you just posted says they aren't interchangeable, right? As does the entry: >[補説]5は「オタク」と書くことが多い。1980年代半ばから使われ始めた言葉か。初めは仲間内で相手に対して「おたく」と呼びかけていたところからという。特定の分野だけに詳しく、そのほかの知識や社会性に欠ける人物をいうことが多い。
Thanks for playing. Next time, don't try to bluff against someone who's actually Japanese.
>>133069903 >You wouldn't see such advertisements as a sports stadium or as the basis for an infamous children's clothing line.
You definitely would. In fact, you already have as proven by your own evidence. This is spot on for the archetype and target group in question, fujoshi.
For fujoshi you market clothes, knicknacks and jewelry, something there are lines of in Japan.
>Only because Evangelion is as normalfag as it is can this be a thing. It's an exception. It's not an exception. Anime adverts of either cute girls or boys in such events is not uncommon but explicitly made room for. Evangelion is popular, but this advertising in particular is targeted towards fujoshi.
>You see girls in highschool Who are then, by definition fujoshi and otaku, as normal schoolgirls don't do that. Moreover for each one of those you have the male schoolboy equivalent.
>Otaku have more obscene interests and can usually be pointed out by their lack of friends and their ugly or fat looks; they tend to reject hygiene as well. But I'm sure you know all about that taking a gander at yourself. Luckily no, but you are probably projecting anyhow, fugly. Fujoshi's interests are just as obscene, just interpret the meaning of "fujoshi" and it means, literally, rotten girl.
>You go to twitter, vine, or facebook: you see them. You don't see otaku. But you do. In droves. Japanese otaku, fujoshi and non-fujoshi alike have long since embraced social media.
>>133069945 Kaworufag being sore that he's a lone faggot whose existence is funded purely on shallow advertising and pandering.
>>133070148 >Pachinko is pretty normalfag, too. >You don't think business men aren't normalfag, do you? Kaworufag retard, it's been established that they are all capable of being otaku, fujoshi or fudanshi.
However, the advertising and the subject matter is strictly NOT normalfag.
>>133070366 >御宅 kek, so now you're going for an even more obscure term than お宅 to refer to オタク? Look at any news article, internet message, or whatever. No one uses Kanji for otaku; they use kana. Just because they said its 多い that people will write it a certain way doesn't mean you should write it the obscure way. You use katakana and that's that. Use it any other way and you'll get funny looks.
>>133070355 You seem to be slow Kaworufag. Movies are more far-reaching in audience grasp than a sports stadium, why not just point out that 3.0 was a Kawoshin movie?
You're missing the point here, which is that there is a executive, root decision from Khara to push Kawoshin. They would literally not push anything else. They've decided to do this. They won't push anything else, this is the de facto direction of Evangelion in lieu of Khara's establishment.
That they (who have an avid interest in showing Kawoshin) showing Kawoshin is at this point entirely irrelevant. What's remains as a relevant fact is that they are pandering Kawoshin.
>>133062803 >Anno was never really that that great to begin with >He himself never had an talent for animating There was a reason why Anno was hired immediately by Miyazaki after Anno dropped out of uni. Miyazaki is not an easy person to please.
M8, reading the discussion the etymology of otaku was pointed out to underline it's origins, which is indeed otaku in reference to a home, something you clumsily end up backing up in your own post here: >>133069767
The worst part is that you're even wrong in trying to correct the guy, who say that the translations (NOTICE THE PLURAL) relate to, not translates to, "home".
So not only are you objectively wrong in interpreting the word otaku, you didn't even have a reason to play besserwisser in the first place, all you did was reveal yourself as a clear lesserwisser.
>>133070686 >NOTICE THE PLURAL You mean something that doesn't even exist in Japanese? I never backpedaled anywhere, and the guy proved me write with his own greentext of the dictionary article because he doesn't know moon and google translate obviously fucked him over. Hence how he never responded here: >>133070513
I won the argument because I know Japanese and you don't. For fuck's sake, I think I'd know my own language. The origins were wrong as well, search otaku origins into any search engine and you'll get what I said. But thanks for giving up.
>>133070767 >making pandering for the masses of otaku Yeah, otaku definitely wear children's clothes and go to sports stadiums with their girlfriends and families. At what point do you draw the line, westerner? Oh, that's right, nowhere. Because even your definition of otaku is wrong.
>>133070822 You got so buttblasted you couldn't even respond to my posts correctly. I won the normalfag argument and I won the otaku argument too. Go ahead and try to segue the conversation again, I'll teach you everything I know about the country that I've been to and you haven't.
no wonder all of you get stuck in dead end jobs or incubators for more successful men
You're backpedaling RIGHT NOW because none of your input actually mattered considering what anon said. You just responded out of butthurt that you got schooled HARD on a subject you were pretending to know anything about.
Just lick your wounds, fuck off back to tumblr, /cm/ and quit shitting up /a/ with your BS.
>>133070859 You do realize that there are near to no plurals in Japanese, right? お宅 is translated as your home, your family, your company, and can even cover several other meanings as well. But Otaku as we know it is all katakana. You'd never spell it another way or people won't know what you're talking about.
>>133070927 You realize that your original statment of "NO PLURALS" is wrong, and had nothing to do with what the anon said in the first place? It's the plural of the word "translations", not plurals of japanese words.
>>133070659 They're on Evageeks too. They're everywhere. AND THEY ALL KNOW JAPANESE.
>>133070956 So you're beef here is that I forgot the word 'your' or changed it from house to home? In Japanese, there is no difference in those two words. You could read 家 as いえ or うち but that does not change the meaning or how to translate it in English.
Pathetic. If you know Japanese, it's back to school for you. You lost the otaku argument because as anon and the etymology proves from various historical sources, as well as the word itself shows, it really does have connotations with the word "home" as well as doing things "in the home".
Which was the point, and you lost. Again.
All you're doing is proving that you're a sore loser.
>>133071015 How could I lose if you never responded to my posts? Because I was right and now you want to change the subject and blatantly lie? Next time just don't try to argue with someone who's actually lived in Japan and knows the language. It's not that hard m8.
>>133070927 I don't think japanese plurals had anything to do with it. You're just so buttflustered that Kaworu is shit and will only be a cyst on Evangelion's existence that you didn't even read any of the posts you replied to.
You tried to act pretentious by going into the meaning but failed to disprove anything at all and just ended getting yourself knocked over by dictionary meanings and citations from articles.
No matter how hard you squirm or bluff Kaworufag, there's no one that's actually going to take you seriously or believe YOU over virtually all the historical content on the subject matter of where the word "otaku" come from.
Some autismal descent into how it's written in kanji vs katakana only shows how desperate you are.
Only a person who knows he's wrong would go to the length you have. Get help.
>>133071013 >So you're beef here is that I forgot the word 'your' or changed it from house to home? In Japanese, there is no difference in those two words. You could read 家 as いえ or うち but that does not change the meaning or how to translate it in English.
The beef is that you went on a pointless tangent because you got served concerning the etymology of the word "otaku" as applied to anime otaku today.
This again underlined the connections otakudom has with the purchase of luxury goods and obsessiveness, which again strengthened the point that Kaworufags such as yourself, fujoshi are indeed just otaku. Your own obsessiveness ITT has only strengthened that point, with what appears to be self-taken pilgrimage pictures of your object of adoration, indeed only an otaku would go to such lengths to document what is shallow advertisements of no value.
My beef, and I guess everyone elses, is that you're a harmful, negative and discordant existence that only makes things worse for others (this thread as a microcosmos of the whole fandom) but still deny it.
You will go into any tangent, any distraction, and spout any lie to not admit how terrible you are.
>>133071147 Since you clearly are an expert on the Japanese language I'll now respond to your posts in all Japanese; clearly a more suitable mode of conversation for you. Of course, I expect you to respond in Japanese as well. Make sure you get that 文法 right!
>>133072452 If you're a weeb, get a place near Tokyo. Atsugi is nice. I know they have some universities in Kanagawa that take gaijin. If you're into Japan for anything else, then maybe Hokkaido? If you like snow. Kyoto is cool too if you're into tourist attractions. Everywhere else is either boring inaka or too heavily accented for Japanese beginners to understand.
If you're studying abroad then that's fine, I thought you meant living in Japan which is a whole other beast. If you're a gaijin, then don't live in Japan. They don't want you there.
>>133072466 >>133072312 Sorry, can you two exchange mail or something and talk there? But because both are adding images of Kaworu to not get banned, I'm assuming either both are espers and agreed to make crap posts or you are just talking to yourself.
>>133072532 Adding onto this: >>133072466 If you like Kaworu and Eva, then just go to Tokyo. Besides the Eva store and the shit in Hakone, there's Akiba and then that Eva amusement park shit. They're also opening up an Eva themed shinkansen soon. I can recommend more places for you.
>>133072598 No, because the point of Rebuild was never to make a story that would end, it was just to prolong and perpetuate stereotypes of the characters as well as make new ones, and then stretch that new interpretation out for as long as feasible.
>>133072769 Akiba is Akihabara. And yes, they're all near Tokyo. Animate is a chain store, it's all over the place. In other prefectures too. Honestly, there's no specific place for anime goods they're all over the place. Except inaka I guess, but no one likes inaka.
It really depends where you go, I'm able to get really nice figures for around $50 at any little shop at Akiba. Animate is typically more expensive, if I recall because it's more formally run.
The problem with Akiba is that you can never tell if an item has been used or if its a shitty ripoff model or not because they won't let you pick up the merchandise unless you say you're going to buy it. For all you know, you might get a Kaworu figure with a cum stain on his backside. That shit has happened to a friend before.
>>133073092 No dude, because then you can't see if the figures are shit or not.
When the nip clerk isn't looking, pick the figure up or look really closely into the glass. If I'm assuming you'll go in the summer for comiket (winter comiket is shit), then it'll be packed so you're good.
If you're looking for more normalfag shit, then the Eva store in Tokyo is good. But if you look weird then don't go, they usually glare at otaku until they leave. Dress up sort of nice and pretend you're normal. Then there's also konbini like Lawson for other alternatives, cheap but no figures. Just little trinkets.
>>133073326 Then you're good. Just be polite, act modest, speak when spoken to, and act like a general non-autist. As long as you don't stay for more than a month or two, you'll be fine. And since you know Japanese that's more in your favor.
But don't mention you like Anime or that you buy figures. Say you like Evangelion but you don't really understand it (that's the typical normalfag response), you think Kaworu is cool and are looking forward to final. That's all you need to say. Keep all your merchandise in a closet and when you go out to Akiba where a surgical mask. Good luck, anon-kun!
>>133073011 It's because Kaworu was actually a good character in eva 3.0, especially when he was the only character who is kind to Shinji. People hate Kaworu only because of the yaoi in the original series.
>>133073508 >People hate Kaworu only because of the yaoi in the original series. Which doesn't make sense, because Kaworu was never gay. The only gay one was Shinji, he was the one blushing and shit. Kaworu could be heterosex for all we know.
>>133073699 Because of the ebin fujoshit boogeyman. It doesn't matter if a Kaworufag is right or if he says the most unoffensive, most neutral thing in the world. People will attack them just for being Kaworufags because they're pissed off about the whole yaoi ordeal.
They take out they're anger on Kaworufags because they're still salty their favorite Anime is pro-fujo.
>>133073703 It's never implied because Kaworu is an alien who's technically genderless. He never blushes at Shinji or anything, so why would people assume he's gay? Shinji was the one blushing and showing sexual attraction, yet everyone forces the gay on Kaworu and pretends Shinji is straight as fuck.
>>133062273 A broken man forged the original. Notice how suicide and depression are no longer in the rebuild series? Anno downplayed rebuild 1.0, and everyone else should too. Having said that, 3.0 at least tried to do something new compared to 1.0 and 2.0, but the entire rebuild arc is a disaster because everything that was great is destroyed/already done by NGE completely better in the first place. Literally the only thing the rebuilds have going for it is over the top production values, but like most things, less is more.
>>133073762 Because Kaworu is the one who initiates those yaoi flags. If Shinji was the one who initiated those flags then it would be different. If Kaworu suddenly comes up to you and raise all those flags, and you accept like nothing is wrong then congrats, you can come out of the closet now.
>>133073699 You think people would give Kaworufags this much shit if had a strictly friendly relationship with Shinji like Touji? Hell no. They're mad because they seem him as a threat to their waifu and that he doesn't pander to them. They hate that Evangelion is not an otaku show, but an omnipandering show. They try to deny this side of the show for 20 years and it bites them in the ass everyday. The hate is just venting, don't take it to heart. What I find hilarious is that they choose to get mad at Kaworu instead of Shinji, when the former is noticeably less gay than the latter; hardly ever showing anything toward Shinji that could be perceived as gay. Unlike Shinji, who acts like a faggot on schoolgirl hormones whenever Kaworu walks in the room. It's just retarded, the western Eva fanbase. I expect all shit to break lose with final.
>>133073886 >who initiates those yaoi flags How so? Kaworu is just there. Shinji blushes on his own accord. It's not Kaworu's fault that Shinji's cheeks get red just by the poor guy smiling at him.
He's not raising shit, he's trying to start a friendship and Shinji is making it sexual and interpreting it as sexual and gay.
>>133073945 >Following their initial meeting, Kaworu accompanies Shinji to a NERV bathing room. While sitting together in the bath, the boys display a degree of comfort around one another. At one point, Kaworu places his hand on Shinji's, who allows Kaworu's hand to linger on his own, Kaworu then proclaims he loves Shinji. At the end of the bath house scene, Shinji tells Kaworu that he needs to go to bed, to which Kaworu is confused and asks if they will go together, to which Shinji is quick to decline the offer, though he does spend the night at Kaworu's apartment, sleeping on the floor beside Kaworu's bed. I copypasted it from eva wiki. But I thought it was fairly accurate to the anime.
>>133069163 Anon, Evangelion had an event in one of the best shopping departments of GINZA, it's normalfag fare.
Get over it. It was normalfag in the 90s too because they were surprised that the regular people watched and loved Evangelion when they had only aimed this shit to otaku. Cruel's Angel Thesis was in the top 10 of most listened karaoke songs of the decade.
Why are people bullying Rei? I admit that Asuka is pretty and has a personality. But Rei is cute. And whenever Shinji is with Rei, he is likable, and when saving her, bad-ass. Whenever Shinji is with Asuka, he just acts like an attention-seeking child, or sex-seeking.
>>133074934 They were out of stock several times since they launched and they first promoted it, Kaworu's married/engaged poster, in Ginza department store as this anon says >>133074520 It's normalfag.
It's not Akihabara or some underground district but the posh and fashion district.
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