Pretty underwhelming for a movie that celebrates the 25 year anniversary of the franchise.
Action is superb. Plot is mediocre. Depth is nowhere near the original movie. Think standard ARISE episode with better production quality and SAC feels.
They tried to give homage to the original movie and the SAC series and it shows. I thought the after credits scene is cool. Prob can expect another TV series by the looks of it.
Also, I hate how the movie tries really hard to obfuscate the plot when it can be just explained in simple terms. The original movie had great depth and it added to the movie. The new movie suffers from it.
If you're talking about the 2015 movie or the ARISE OVA's, I don't think there are dubs for them, but I could be wrong.
The dubs for SAC are decent but not FMA or cowboy bebop level by any means.
It's still the best of the genre and everyone knows it. Too bad all their attempts at "modernizing" the franchise only ended up hurting it. The movie is not bad by any means. Just nowhere near the original's level. If they learn from the mistakes maybe we can expect a kickass tv series out of the franchise again.
at this point i feel this is just the default meme response when discussing gits here
it was great and the sound effects deserve a mention, you're just not seeing these for the first time.
Yeah the visuals and the sound effects were done very well. It's not a bad movie by any means. Just wish they would have done more than create another episode of ARISE with higher production value.
I'm like a huge GITS fan. It just feels like watching everything in low-resolution, the plot, the characters, everything. It's a bit like reading Terry Pratchett's last book.
ARISE, taken together, doesn't stand up to even one episode of SAC.
I hate how fucking saturated this shit is these days. The color pallet is so goddamn in your face all the fucking time, can they just take it easy?
The more neutral scheme is one of the charms of the older series and lent it its style. Can't deal man, I just can't get with this new program.
There's nothing truly new under the sun, anon. GiTS however was groundbreaking. It's considered among the very finest of the cyberpunk genre. Even The Matrix was heavily inspired by it. It's also one of the few major anime that was made entirely with adults in mind. It really has no equal in its field.
When are they going to acknowledge that the manga Major, the one from the original source material, is a lesbian harem lead and does lesbian orgy in her down time?
Don't fucking tell it's not part of her characterization
>but those don't "count" right?
you sound like an edge-lord teenager. i dont understand why you're trying so hard to schil for an anime like lain in a GitS thread. GitS is widely regarded as one of the best in the genre. if you like lain more than you like GitS, that's fine. but check your autism because nobody gives a shit about lain here in this thread.
I only watched ARISE and went straight into the movie. I think ARISE is the only exposition you need before the movie. You can tell there were some developments but only minor ones.
Look, if you want to talk about lain or some minor anime, go talk about it in the right threads. the guy was simply explaining why GitS is such a good series. Good god you're actually autistic.
why are you even trying to dispute that statement when he's clearly just explaining why he thinks GitS is good? you realize completely ignoring the context, focusing on one or two small details, and distorting the original argument so you can dispute it is what autists with low critical reading skills do all the time? can you stop with your lain and minor anime bullshit?
The plot was pretty coherent in contrast to the OVAs.
Section 9 feels like Section 9 finally.
Major feels a little more like the Major.
Saito bullying was fun.
Action was great.
Direction was a huge step up from the OVAs.
Music was still garbage with some minor exceptions.
The Major's design didn't change at series end.
8.5/10 it was okay
>been schilling for an anime that nobody likes for a long time
>has to degrade other anime to convince people his anime is good
>being this low
/a/nons are pretty spoiled. Anything short of perfection is so repulsive that it triggers autistic fits of rage. Anything that hits exactly what they want is worshiped as a god. They can't have a more even a reasonable opinion because they can't handle the disappointment that comes with watching something that doesn't fully engage you. So they hide in their hugboxes and echochambers, flinging shit at others until they go away.
I just don't see this level of cinematic mastery in anime movies anymore. I don't think the problem is GitS specific. We won't be seeing another Akira or another Ghost in the Shell for a long time. Now that studio ghibli has become all but a meme there is no hope. We're living in the dark ages of anime.
No, the original movie - whatever it was, like 20 years ago. I watched it again, and I cringed so hard during the entire ending scene. The dialog between the major and the AI was so, so bad.
idk, i don't think the ending of the movie is as simple as you say it is. the original movie in general is really heavy with nietzsche, not baby-tier philosophy. The final fight scene vs the tank is full of symbolic moments at every turn. i definitely think it's waaaay too complicated for a 14 year old to comprehend.
That screenshot is from a movie? What's the budget? Two cans of beer and a cheeseburger?
this is really the best thing about the original gits. As animation goes it was a god damn masterpiece.
Cmon though... Batou is fucking Armitage, major Kusinagi is Molly Millions and the bearded hacker guy is the Finn.
Her choice at the end explained by the soul searching scenes she has with batou on the boat while they're drinking beer. Yeah its kind of stupid but shes already leaning towards that idea of transhumanism since she's mostly machine at that point anyways. She can't reproduce in the physical sense anymore since she doesn't have a body and its making her all angsty n shit. They really go all out with the corny bs with her new loaner body being a child as if the AI and her gave birth..
It is still fucking stupid but a little more thought out than you are describing.
You misunderstand. My problem wasn't with Motoko giving up her "free will". My problem was incredibly bad "philosophy" that the AI was dishing out. Every line was rap. Every line was a blatant logical fallacy - mostly appeal to nature fallacy.
Ultimately it's about budget and it's kinda sad to see what happened to GiTS.
When it comes to anime movies, there are the family kind with big budgets and otaku oriented kind with cheap budget. Eva managed to find a spot in between while GiTS had to lower its budget tremendously after Innocence.
Which raises the question as to why Arise doesn't have a decent one. Money can't solve poor writing or dumb decisions, but it can go some way to remedying a poor soundtrack and awful animation.
well SAC 2nd gig did well after innocence's god awful mess so there's really no reason to think innocence has a lot to do with the budget cut.
do we even know how much budget ARISE has? i mean it has some low moments but it doesnt look that cheap to me.
But was that really enough? Innocence cost more than both SAC seasons.
They rarely reveal budgets anymore, but SSS had a budget of 360 million yen. GiTS new movie obviously had to be cheaper, because it managed a little bit over 60 million yen in the box office. They had to adjust budgets accordingly because their demographic isn't as big as it was from SAC days.
I'm making myself watch ARISE right now, and that's a painfully accurate assessment. It feels like GITS made by a cargo cult, like they thought a superficial copy would be just as good.
>I honestly think it would have been cheaper
Yeah, no. SAC was one of the shows with more budget at their disposal, not even ufotable has had that budget in comparison.
If I remember correctly by the moment it was made SAC had like a $8 million budget.