Mobile Suit Gundam (1979)
Super Dimension Fortress Macross (1982)
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
Dragon Ball (1984)
Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986)
Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
Dragon Ball Z (1989)
Sailor Moon (1992)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995)
Ghost in the Shell (1995)
Princess Mononoke (1997)
Cowboy Bebop (1998)
Spirited Away (2002)
Fullmetal Alchemist (2003)
Code Geass (2006)
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (2006)
Gurren Lagann (2007)
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (2009)
More moe shit
Super autistic moe shit
You didn't take it serious enough when people called moe cancer. Moot in all his infinite wisdom even made another board for that shit yet the tumor hasn't receded. I feel sorry for kids growing up today to shows like k-on, nnb, and all the other plotless shows with no substance.
>Dragon Ball Z (1989)
>Princess Mononoke (1997)
>Fullmetal Alchemist (2003)
>Code Geass (2006)
>Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (2009)
I can't handle all of this bait.
It's getting much better since the 90's and 2000's
>Mobile Suit Gundam (1979)
>Super Dimension Fortress Macross (1982)
>Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
>Dragon Ball (1984)
>Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986)
>Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
>Dragon Ball Z (1989)
>Sailor Moon (1992)
>Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995)
>Ghost in the Shell (1995)
>Princess Mononoke (1997)
>Cowboy Bebop (1998)
>Spirited Away (2002)
>Fullmetal Alchemist (2003)
>Code Geass (2006)
>The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (2006)
>Gurren Lagann (2007)
>Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (2009)
>Any of that
And somehow the defining work of the 80's and the defining work of the 10's would end up being by the same studio
>there's just way more stupid bullshit than before in addition to the good stuff.
No, there's not. The bullshit was always there, and has always been there, you just forgot about it or don't/didn't know about it.
In terms of "amount of shows" though it's going up. It follows that there's probably going to be more stupid bullshit.
I loved Yuri Kuma Arashi and Eupho. OPM is pretty good for the animation porn, too. 2015 has in general been really weak though.
Wasted potential. But it was original and quite creative. Okay.
Mediocre KyoAni coming of age drama with some yuri baiting.
I dropped it after the first episode so I can't say anything about it.
>I love this meme
It was boring, overrated shit, and this is coming for someone who loves SOL series.
I suppose because I'm not watching it with rose-tinted glasses like fags like you.
>good but not great
What the hell kind of backwards-ass rating scale do you have?
FMA:B has a crisp, clean, and fun storyline and a diverse set of characters that keep changing and maturing as the story goes on. It's not as deep as say, cowboy bebop, but certainly has a very mature theme prevailing the whole plot. it certainly is one of the best shows to come out in the last decades.
>It's unfortunate that you have no attention span.
That's not a valid way to bat off criticism for something. I didn't find the characters, the setting or interactions between the characters particularly interesting. I got about 16 episodes in before I dropped it.
>That's not a valid reason to hate something.
Overrated shit typically set your expectations too high for a series, and you'll only be set up for disappointment. You're probably never going to the series after that as you'll always just be reminded about how disappointing it was.
I now try to convince myself that everything I watch is probably going to be shit, and I find myself enjoying a lot more.
-Toaru Majutsu no Index
-Shakugan no Shana Final
-Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou
-Yosuga no Sora
-Sword Art Online (Aincrad was great, the rest not so much)
-No Game No Life
-Kill la Kill
Probably plenty of other stuff I've either not watched or forgotten about.
When i first watched S;G, I thought there would be some meaning behind all the autistic lines the main character was spewing off randomly every episode. nope. he was actually retarded.
>giving a shit list full of anime that should never represent the decade unless this decade is ACTUALLY the dark decade
IBO has potential to be a top-tier Gundam.
Shokugeki no Soma
A bunch of other series that were/are decent
That's just this year, which is 1/10th of the decade as a whole, and I haven't watched every single series that's aired, so I'm sure that there's probably something that I'd remember fondly a decade from now missing from the list.
The 10s might actually be the best time to be an anime fan. If not the 10s, then probably the late 00s. There's just been so many shows being released, and there's always at least a few good shows to watch if you actually like the medium.
I don't think that /a/ hates Cowboy Bebop so much as it hates all of the faggots who whine that Cowboy Bebop is the best anime ever and all anime should be made along the same lines, while bashing everything that isn't an outlier work and making assumptions about the people who watch them. Given a choice between letting these people make themselves comfortable on the board and discussing an anime that aired 16 years ago and has had all discussion wrung out of it, most of /a/ doesn't find the choice to be a difficult one.
Same goes for "muh 90s" and "muh MANIME". People here don't really hate the 90s, so much as they hate all of the stupid, ignorant casuals who claim that it was a golden age, largely based off of a dozen series or so, if that, spread across the entire decade.
>list doesn't have SEED, the show that saved the entire mech genre
As a anime and manga fan of over 30 years, no.
To me the dark ages were mid 2000s to early 10s, with the exception of the explosion that was 2006.
The last couple of years have been an improvement from those void years.
>talking about shows that have JUST begun to air
>even then the shows are probably not good enough to represent the decade
>thinks mass production of mediocre anime means "the best time to be an anime fan"
I dunno, I went in with high expectations for LOGH and it certainly delivered. Then again, it's hard to know if it qualifies as overrated, since it seems like very few people have watched it.
Fair enough. I'm at a point in my life where I don't have time to watch more than a season's worth of a show every couple of months with the other things I have on my plate, so I've been watching some older stuff and waiting to see what people say isn't shit from the newest seasons. I know I'm not in tune with /a/'s taste, but I'm still open to stuff like Samurai Flamenco and Durarara.
>lists 80s anime
>lists 90s anime
>lists 00s anime
Where did it all go so wrong, /a/?
Can we stop this?
If we were all watching anime back then and if 4chan had already became a thing we would be saying that it was all shit.
More Generic Mech
Edgy Pro-Axis Shit
Shit on wheels
People would have given that same greentext about Haruhi in 2006.
It's tough to tell which series are decade-defining for anime fandom as a whole until a significant amount of time has passed. You can really only speak for yourself. And speaking for myself, I really liked KS and SnS, and I'm also really enjoying IBO so far.
>mass production of mediocre anime
Mass production means more shit, but it also means more good shows. The problem with these rose tinted glasses of previous decades is that they're generally based on a very small handful of shows produced over an entire 10 years of time, and those series have had time to establish themselves as industry icons. They're also commonly seen by people with a small reference pool, and have been told to expect good things from them. When you're dealing with currently airing series, you have to wade through the potential shit to find them diamonds, and you're not given as much information to set expectations.
Anime really isn't all the time consuming of a hobby, though. Even a busy person like a CEO or doctor could spare the time to watch two movies per week, which is about how long it takes to watch a full 12 episode series.
Not him but why bother watching a show if you can find out that it isn't something that will appeal to you? Rather than waste a few hours every season finding out you hate something, you can use that to watch something from your backlog or shitpost on 4chan instead.
You just have really low standards.
>Shokugeki no Soma
Jesus Christ. Comare this to GitS: SAC or Texhnolyze, or Haibane Renmei, or Mushishi, or Planetes, or many other classics.
I can understand everything on that list, even if I disagree with it, except for Ninja Slayer. It had no qualities, it was a piss poor parody, it looked bad, the comedy got boring after 3 episodes. I can save one or two things from it, definitely not enough to not make it shit.
>implying Tonari no Seinfeld was good
It's just a SoL of cute Jews doing cute things, where absolutely nothing ever happens
Kill la Kill
Monogatari series started end of 2009 but most were in the 10s
The Wind Rises
Rebuild of Evangelion 3.33
Kyoukai no Kanata
Suisei no Gargantia
>certainly is one of the best shows to come out in the last decades
Did you even watch FMA:B?
I like to watch other movies too, and I'm in college now (26 years old, using the GI Bill). If I'm going to watch something, I'd like to know ahead of time that I'll probably like it.
>Not him but why bother watching a show if you can find out that it isn't something that will appeal to you?
It helps to diversify your tastes. Most series usually have something which makes it worth spending 24 minutes a week watching it.
Also by watching mediocre/forgettable series, it gives you a baseline to actually judge if something is good or not.
I typically watch around 25-35 shows each season.
How the fuck do you still have a life? Do you really think that there are 25-35 shows each season worth watching?
>watching forgettable series, it gives you a baseline to actually judge if something is good or not
Nah, I've already developped my critical reasoning and analytical skills.
>25-35 shows each season
Jesus fucking Christ
>muh traditionally painted cells
all anime is trash
you fucking EOPs
Really? Cause a lot of OP's list is shit too.
Inuyasha (to be fair it started out great before going to utter shit)? Fullmetal Alchemist? Naruto? Code Geass? That's the best you can do for the 00's? How about Kikaider, Banner of the Stars, Hellsing, Full Metal Panic, .hack//SIGN, Gungrave, Last Exile, Gankutsuou, Mushishi, shit I could keep going, but you get the idea.
I think the real question that really persisted since forever is why there's so little ORIGINAL anime. As in, not just adaptations of already existing works which is the norm in the industry.
That's only about 10-14 hours a week (actually less, because a good chunk of those usually are short series), which is only an hour and a bit each day.
It doesn't take out that much time. Maybe it's because I actually like to watch anime unlike what a lot of /a/ seems to be like.
I didn't like Mushishi. I found it really boring.
I'd put this about on par with KS in terms of how much I enjoyed it.
This was great, but I'm pretty sure that this would get shat on like crazy as pretentious/boring shit on /a/ if it aired today by the same people who like it now. Kinda like Gunbuster fans who scream "moeshit", and you certainly wouldn't consider it to be an instant classic.
All in all, I think that you're suffering from the same rose tinted glasses that I've talked about. It doesn't matter how good a currently airing series might happen to be. It'll never measure up to muh classics in your book, at least not until it's 2025 and it's been long enough for you to look back on it with nostalgia.
I was going to say I disagree but then I looked again and I agree. From 2005-2012 I save Aria, Kino no Tabi, Maria-sama, K-on, Hyouka, and maybe Chihayafuru and Tasogare Amnesia.
Everything else I loved, because I've loved another 20 titles or so, is one step behind those (like Toshokan Senso, one of my favourite anime, it's miles behind this 6-7).
Man, 2012 really saved the 2005-2012 period, for me.
I'm a bit torn on Tasogare Amnesia, I don't remember another romance written as tight as that, I thought the ending perfectly followed the rules and I think it's a masterpiece in the fanservice-y romance genre in the sense that this is how they should be done. It's definitely in my top10 of that period but I don't know if I would consider it worth mentioning when talking about the best ever.
You still haven't responded to my 2nd question
Not him, but only an hour a day is enough for 20 shows a week. I could easily handle 30 shows a season when I worked full time, while still having plenty of time to do other things too.
Not having time is really just an excuse for people who don't actually like anime.
>I found it really boring
>shat on like crazy as pretentious/boring shit on /a/ if it aired today by the same people who like it now
Nonsense. Look what anime from this decade end up in people's 3x3 lists. It's always this "pretentious/boring shit".
But the real question is how you find 30 shows to enjoyable every season. How the fuck do you do that?
>Little Witch Academia
>Kill la Kill
Mediocre manga adaptation
mediocre manga adaptation
Good, you forgot Ping Pong though
>Knights of Sidonia
>One Punch Man
Three more mediocre manga adaptations
Ok anon, please do me a favor. Take the chart of the current season and highlight all the shows you are watching. Don't worry, it'll only take you a 100 hours in ms paint
>Look what anime from this decade end up in people's 3x3 lists.
3x3 threads are one of the worst things in this board, they are full of people who want to be told their taste is great and choose the same 15 shows when making charts.
There's no reason for you to watch anime if you don't like it. But what the fuck are you doing on /a/ then? Go to /v/ and /lit/ and pester them about why you should play all these shitty games and read all these shitty books.
I learned a long time ago that you can't know for sure if you'll like something until you've watched it. I've liked things that /a/ hates, and been either bored or annoyed out of my mind by things that were getting a positive receptions on /a/.
The only qualities that I'll avoid as a rule unless something convinces me that it's different are works that appear to have a generic harem Gary Stu protagonist, anything with a cast that has too high of a male ratio (not because I dislike male casts, but because this is generally a sign of fujoshit), and anything with the usual art qualities of a shojo work. Anything else, and I'll watch it if it catches my interest.
Here is a screen shot of the section of my anime folder with the airing series.
This season is actually pretty light for me. I watched a lot more the last few seasons.
Are you implying that he should not watch anime at all unless he watches as many shows as you each season? Taste is a personal thing anon.
I usually get around to downloading BDs for series I like. I've been meaning to get an AnimeBytes account to see if they have high quality releases of older series than I can get off of nyaa or bakabt.
As in, you replace your airing shows with their respective BD rips when the time comes. I usually set an script to search for them after the season ends but nowadays most shows I like don't even get BD releases, specially short anime, so that's unfortunate.
I actually like anime. I like looking at anime, I like listening to anime music and voices, I enjoy the scripts and the characters and all the cliches they might entail. I like it when I notice animation references, I like it when I recognise the seiyuu and remember their other roles, I like it when I can pick out distinctive traits of the production staff and I like it when I can see the love poured into a show from all sides. Even "bad" shows like Million Doll, Chaos Dragon or Mahou Sensou, to name some recent examples (all of which I watched the whole way through), can still be enjoyable at some level.
That's fair. I guess I'm just mad because I can't find enjoyment in as shows as you guys
>not having time is really just an excuse for people who don't actually like anime
I remember when I had to work 70 hours a week all I would do is sleep and go to work. Fuck off with your catch all.
Assuming you sleep 8 hours a day and maybe allocate another 4 hours a day to do shit like cooking/eating/getting ready etc, you still have 14 hours a week which you could easily watch over 20 series in that time.
No, but when it gets to a point where you consider only 0-1 show per season worth watching, you might just as well give up on watching anime at all. Saves you more time by not having to keep up with the latest news and releases.
It's mostly about actually being able to discover new things than only watching "the masterpieces", it's not a surprise that some people that think like this dislike anime but make exceptions for the few series they like.
but the TPP.
Usually I store anime I like and BD rips that uncensor things, so yeah I kinda agree.
>Not wanting to watch +20 shows each season is a slippery slope
They implied watching twenty-five shows must require you to be a NEET, and then when someone pointed out how little time that took, the response was "Why should I watch shitty shows and waste my time?"
This. The way global politics are going, they won't stop until they have complete control over the internet. What people take for granted now, namely being able to download pretty much anything you want whenever you want is not gonna be possible anymore.
I don't want a box of hard drives, though, which is what it would quickly turn into if I stored every single series.
It's extremely rare that I do this.
Except as raws for Japanese listening practice, since shows that you've seen before are easier to follow. I can just grab those again, though.
What we really need to do is force congress to pass a law that puts the breaks on their current tactics of-
>try same law under a different name, hope that the public is tired enough of fighting that it passes this time
>try same law under different name...
>repeat until apathy sets in
There needs to be a list of things banned from being placed in a bill, along with an implicit clause that enforces the spirit of the list so that they can't just loophole.
We can call it the "America said NO." law.
I don't really see why he should get out of /a/ though. And if you only want to watch a few shows each season while still finding new things you can always give other shows the three episode rule, or you know, browse /a/ and see if something seems worth a look
I don't agree with that either, but he should at least lurk. Browsing /a/ is not always the best idea to encourage yourself to watch airing anime, but sometimes it really does work.
Well, we know OP was shitposting in the 90s, at least.
I watch more recent anime than old anime, but mostly because I'm kinda running out of old anime that I'm interested to watch, and sometimes end up dropping long series that bore me. Can't really say what I enjoy more, both are entertaining.
>More moe shit
>Super autistic moe shit
Enjoying the sight of cute young girls being cute is a gentlemanly activity compared to watching "cool" kids cartoons like Guren Lagann or Naruto.
Yuru Yuri (2011)
Milky Holmes (2011)
Ro Kyu Bu! (2011)
Yuru Yuri!! (2012)
Love Live (2013)
Kiniro Mosaic s1 (2013)
Non Non Byori (2013)
Kiniro Mosaic (2013)
Kiniro Mosaic s2 (2015)
Illya s3 (2015)
Yuru Yuri!!! (2015)
Gochiusa s2 (2015)
We are living in the Golden Age of Idol Anime.
Nah, not really.
We might be in a dark age of anime backgrounds though.
Pic related, what the fuck were they thinking?!
The Psycho Pass movie is an extreme example but a lot of modern high budget productions just look like shit due to bad art direction and not giving a shit about the backgrounds looking good.
Saying that anime is worse off for digital techniques might have been a valid statement in the QUALITY era of the mid-00s, but I'd say that anime looks better than ever these days. It's basically what they were shooting for in the mid-00s, except even cleaner looking.
>character who's the focus of the scene stays completely still for a long time under circumstances that should really make them move; looks extremely awkward
>animation is so inconsistent that you rewind to make sure that you didn't miss something; character will be standing there talking in one frame and on the floor the next, with no transition
Taking the lack of animation this far very rarely happens these days. You get talking heads and speed lines, but those techniques are conserved enough that they're usually not too noticeable. Even conspicuous cases aren't as bad as the 80s. Unless you're Daishogun, of course.
At an all time low.
The only downside to the current era, art-wise, is that Japan is still terrible at CGI, and 100% CGI series are slowly seeping into the industry, both of which are bad things in themselves.
Even if I don't agree with many of your picks, I could pick others in their place. However so far the only notable thing from the 2010s was Yamato 2199 (which was incidentally a remake) so yeah, I believe we are in the dark ages.
But hey, we still have 4 years.
If the best you can do even with a budget looks like one of those pre-rendered backgrounds from Grim-Fandango, then just don't use 3D.
Any good art director should've been able to see it looks like shit.
>Moe won the war against normalfags
Feels good man
hollywood does this too. up until very recently (think avatar and transformer) movie cgi sucked a lot of doo doo. but they see that long term investment in the tech is beneficial for the industry.
Yes. Like OP said the 80s had Gundam, Macross, LoGH, and Dragon ball. The 90s had Evangelion, Berserk, Macross Plus, Cowboy Bebop, Gunbuster, and Yu Yu Hakusho. 2000s had Samurai Champloo, Turn A Gundam, and Hunter X Hunter.
What happened the last 10 years? Why did we stop making this top quality anime?
>80's list 4 movies with movie budget of the era
>DB twice, a really shitty heavily padded shounen that was popular and had notorious QUALITY, plot is generally dogshit but a fun romp
>0079 QUALITY and tomino levels of shitty dialog, an actual game changer with an okay (now days a cliche) story
I know it's bait but damn, the list is broken from the get go, at least cherry pick better shit. If and thing there's MORE variety now than ever, though cyberpunk has died because it's 30-40 years later and we know the depicted tech simply doesn't work that way and it would be jarring otherwise.
And you are a part of those +238 replies. Good job anon!
>le born in the wrong generation XD
>80s animu were middling at best with very few of them being even halfway memorable
>90s was full of overrated garbage remembered fondly only by Toonami nostalgiatards
>00s was full of weeaboo pandering shit with Death Note being the lone bright spot of that whole decade
Strong case, OP.
Since this is a shit thread, I figured I would let everyone know that, even though this place has gone to shit, I still love each and every one of you.
I can't believe you guys didn't realize it was bait, how could you even entertain the idea of a "best of" list that has Inuyasha and Pokemon on it being legitimate? You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
God damn if I don't love you back, anon. Truer words have not been sapoken