>"Eastern animation will always be superior to wes-"
Fuck. This quite literally blows 99.999% of every single Anime ever made. I know it's not a competition, it never has been, but goddamn japan got blown away.
Plenty do. That's my main interest, though I don't watch shit.
One of the main reasons I watch anime is to avoid CG shit.
I wish I had the a Webm of this scene.
Better animated and written than any anime of this year, what am I saying anyway? Inside out is probably the best animated movie of the year, perhaps of the 10's
Why do the designs have to be so weird? It doesn't look like any of them are based on anything in particular but they all are humanized with clothing and shitty apparent tropes.
I don't think they do but it has been years since I watched and read it.
No shit, a movie being better animated than an anime should be the fucking baseline .
Same here, I can't stand it. I'm not the target audience for this stuff so it's not like I'm going to demand that Pixar stops doing it or something, but it's one of the reasons I have zero motivation to watch any of the CG movies that come out now. No one will ever convince me to watch Frozen.
>watching american shit made in the 10s
>instead of literally chinese cartoons made in the 60s
Because western animated movies have a much bigger budget you retards.
If you pay the same wage you pay eastern animators to western animators, you'll most likely get something like Family Dad.
The whole magic of Japanese animation is limited animation. Japan has perfected this technique, that's why they can produce high quality anime with a much smaller budget.
This is animated much better than anything western made.
No, you can't prove me wrong.
One day, /a/ will learn to embrace CG, just like how all those old timers embrace smartphones and laptops
or die getting left behind by the times
Here comes the american friends of the rotund variety with their butthurt because their cartoons and comics get btfo by anime in every department.
Name one anime that is worse than this piece of shit.
Compared to the crap that western animation often offers with a small budget, yeah.
That's the whole point of limited animation. That's how Osamu Tezuka managed to produce so many fucking episodes of Astro Boy and other shit.
Before Tezuka, everyone was mostly doing the american style of animation, which is time fucking consuming and expensive.
Tezuka made anime cheap to make. That's what makes Japanese anime different; It costs less.
hope you don't watch GiTS then
>that scene when the girl comes home and lets everything out to her parents
>Pixar hasn't been good since 2009.
>What is Inside Out?
>The story was legitimately really good.
I haven't watched it, but I'm guessing it's a run of the mill feel good story.
Sure, western writers are good at this shit, but they don't experiment with a lot of things in the first place.
Japan comes up with a lot of crap, but at the same time you must realize that the shit they come up with is far more original, and risk taking than what the western writers are doing.
Yes, and nowadays most CG mecha looks even better than that. It's no longer the clunky moving wrecks that used to pollute our screens, we should stop sprouting this "CG is bad" meme.
>Tfw you need sadness in your life in order to experience t-
fuck it, not gonna spoil it.
All seriousness guys, if you don't have anything better to do, do yourself a favor and watch this movie. Preferably alone.
Toy story has forever been my favorite movie, but this might've dethroned it.
I swear I'm living in the funding matrix. Everytime I watch a show or movie that NEVER has threads about it suddenly appear. Like the time I watched tsukuyomi moon phase years and years after its release. Literally the first moment I went on 4chan there's a moon phase megathread. I watch muromi in 2015 and there's a funding thread about it. Now you Fuckers are talking about a movie I just finished watching. I'm on to you Fucks; I am aware.
>Most cartoons airing right now have better animation than anime
And do you realize that these cartoons also have a much bigger budget on average?
>anime is just a bunch of still images
That's the whole fucking point, you retard.
It's limited animation. Japan doesn't have as much money to draw every fucking inbetween frame, but they make most of the stills they have.
>there are retards that think western shows are better than this
Go back to /co/.
It's almost like you're far more likely to ignore a thread about something you haven't seen or something. The brain filters out all the images of crap that doesn't interest you, so you're only left with the stuff you recognise.
and? most anime look the same and generic as fuck, anime is boring boring and don't even try to say "mu backgrounds" Gravity falls and Steven universe (even I don't even liking it) have better background design than anime
PSG is good animated
Tengen toppa is good animated even if sometimes there is too much shaky cam
KLK is good animated for it's budget and the animation is entertaining
Hunterxhunter 2011 is good animated
One punch man is good animated
Know != having watched
And why would I know about what you have watched? why do I need to know that you didn't watch Monogatari to talk about Dance with devils?
I haven't watch DRRR and I dropped Haruhi because I didn't like it, if you watch something only because /a/ told you you are an idiot.
It's not only "sad" and "emotional" it's actually quite unique of a concept. Definitely no one below the age of 16 could appreciate it. You seriously have to give it a try. It gets to the point real quick.
>Gravity falls and Steven universe (even I don't even liking it) have better background design than anime
My fucking keks
Go watch some more anime
Feel Sad story, different side of the same coin.
These stories are safe and much easier to do.
Japanese writers set themselves up for a much much bigger challenge to appease the otaku. They have to take a really ridiculous premise, and turn it into something good and legitimate.
Most of the time, they do fail, but at least they're experimenting, and when it succeeds, it's a much bigger payoff.
>Gravity falls and Steven universe (even I don't even liking it) have better background design than anime
No they aren't. They look like they let a 5 year old draw on paint, and then used "fill" to color in the spaces and decided to call it "art".
this looks better than generic city background n#12321422789
Family Guy costs 2 million per episode.
Avatar: The Last Airbender reportedly cost 1 million per episode.
South Park reportedly costs a million dollars per episode too, but for the life of me I can't imagine how.
This is considered insanely cheap to produce a show by the way.
The real reason anime largely has dogshit animation is that the GRANDO SPONSAHS are cheap as fuck. But it's also the fault of the industry that can't figure out how to capitalize on a popular product.
That's a big generalization. Just because Pixar doesn't do a film with war and blood doesn't mean their shows aren't all the same.
Pixar's movies are mostly aimed at children with nods to parents watching it. They are the Kyoani of the west. They have their audience and they succeed at entertaining them. That's much better than trying to pander to literally everybody and not having an established audience.
They really do.
Western writers don't know the pain of having to write a harem that's not like the others.
A simple voice actor miscast can get your anime to fail big time, and if you're the director / producer, you'll probably get death threats as well.
Seriously, don't understimate the shit that Japanese writers have to go through. Sure, it's their own damn fault for trying to appease to the otaku to begin with, but such is the state of the industry.
Can't be helped.
because she is voiced my Amy Pholer
You want to know why? it's because they are too busy pushing Cars because they think it's the greatest thing they have made since Toy Story two. They had great movies and original ideas, then suddenly they just go oh fuck this I'm just going to make sequels of movies that aren't the incredibles 2 (because the director refused to just put out a piece of shit with the name incredibles on it).
Inside out was not great though. all that happened was just sadness fucks things up, then joy ends up being a huge jerk to everyone until she realizes that she can't just be happy all the time. There I just saved you an hour and a half.
So basically Osamu Dezaki is the greatest anime director of all time?
Kek but no.
Go watch Giant Robo.
Gurren Lagann's story is overly simple, and doesn't take any big risks. I guess it has its appeal to a newfag audience, but it's hardly the top of the genre.
But that's not Dreamworks, anon.
Western animation never will look as good this, or like most anime done today.
It just is crap.
Sure, but it doesn't get any better than that.
When you think about it, Evangelion was fucking shite too, and so were the crappy Patlabor movies.
But hey, at least you're not heralding shit like TTGL as the pinnacle of anime.
Minor anime, fujoshit
LN harem anime. It might be the best among them but there's no point in watching past the first season unless you like those.
>avatar doesn't have good animation
now that's bait
that ugly shit pandered to hipster autist and has nothing of value to offer, it's putrid art telling a brain rotting shitty story and you lap it up because in /co/ Disney is LITERALLY god.
Snow White that came out in 1937 was far better than that clip, animation wise.
Every normalfag criticism against "moe" and slice of life genuinely applies to Kinmoza.
No one was heralding TTGL as the pinnacle of anime. The first guy just said "top of its genre" and honestly it's up there as far as coming of age mecha goes.
By accident, faggot.
theres literally nothing wrong with rotoscoping, this is better than any other scene from frozen for ex
I'm actually interested in this discussion.
Thank you mods.
The budget for that show was astronomical. That's the whole point.
Western animation is only good when it has the money.
Anime is done on a much much cheaper budget. Toei outsources its shit to slave animators in countries like the Philippines for heaven's sake.
>can you name any coming of age mecha?
You mean like Evangelion? FLCL?
It's cool that you liked those characters better than the ones in TTGL. But that doesn't make it any less of a success on both its technical and narrative grounds.
I thought it was boring. Otherwise pretty nice.
Fluidity is mimicked in lower budget productions.
Japanese animation techniques are actually superior, because they rely on key frames where scenes and characters are indistinguishable, and they give off the impression of fluidity more often than not, without the extravagant budget that's required in western shit.
You could say that most anime has shitty animation and shitty CGI cars.
But nice backgrounds are pretty often seen in anime though.
2d western animation is only good when you pump shitloads of money into it, and money doesn't come easy in that industry.
There's a reason why Tezuka abandoned this style. It was too fucking costly. Anime wouldn't have existed the way it is without limited animation techniques.
Too bad CG can never look nice.
Isn't that what they do in anime all the time? Tracing photos isn't that impressive either.
Japanese anime more often than not favours well drawn frames over fluidity.
Family Guy / American Dad / Simpsons / you name it are all "fluid", but who cares about fluidity when everything else looks like shit.
I'd rather have a picture book. Just watch Belladonna by Mushi Pro. That movie doesn't have any animation, but it still looks gorgeous.
Shit taste there.
A boy falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
Now with its own OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NShEKYoPXw
And ED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIX9aoN7g4o
Last good western animated movie.
You are still missing the point my friend.
And Kyoani mostly just use photos as reference. They don't trace them. It's still very well drawn.
I know both sides use reference all the time and that's fine because they only take bits and pieces to create something new. But are you serious, backgrounds like that pic are nearly exactly the same as the original photo.
Yes I agree those are good too.
Doesn't mean Kyoani's backgrounds were badly drawn though.
>BUT FILTERS ARE BAD! BAD! STOP PRETENDING TO HAVE A CAMERA IN MY CHINESE CARTOONS
Just get over with it. It's just part of their art style.
I love all animation, but /co/ you gotta go.
See y'all for the Gravity Falls finale!
>implying anything pixar has done ever looked this good.