>>133101226 Trolling aside the whole thing goes like this: -Eva falls for Nagi whose either love or huge crush remains unrequited -Eva meets Negi, a young shota Nagi-lookalike and so takes him with by her side as a surrogate petting toy -Ken retcons some of Eva's past so that Touta fits in, which may pose some basis for no idea, he doesn't even look like Nagi or Negi anyway
There'll be some tryhard UQ Holder fans who'll try to fanfic her having loved Touta all along but it's really only Nagi (and possibly Negi in some way).
>>133095749 Loli Eva, Yukihime is bland and a mediocre character. She has nothing of the good things that made Eva a fun character.
>>133101266 >>133101508 Oh c'mon anon I have 0 problems with Eva being with Tota and i'm a Negifag( Especially since Negi gives no fucks about her in a romantic sense, she's his friend and teacher, in fact she was the one that wanted to fuck him) but the retcon >It was Tota all along Is fucking retarded, obvious retcon is obvious. Akamatsu wanted to pull a >I swear she's pure guise because nips tend to get mad if the love interest has a past with other men.
>>133102063 This, apart of the last part about her being "pure". I think Akamatsu simply wants to push Touta forward by forging up some sort of past relationship with Eva (despite it obviously sounding forced).
>>133102147 >canon There's no indication that Eva "loved touta all along", that's just some wishful thinking by hardcore shipper fans. And trying to enforce imagination as "canon" is exactly what fanfics come from.
>>133102489 Proof of what? I don't want to prove that she loved him all along and I don't care. I am only pointing out that you are buthurt because of their story and the fact that she's his love interest. You can't prove anything either, thankfully UQH is ongoing so we'll know more sooner or later.
>>133102581 But Ken is just forcing it at this point. Touta who is a clone of Negi that is the son of Nagi met Eva in a castle because of time slip thing and fall in love with Touta which is the actual reason she loves Nagi. The fuck is that.
>>133102794 I am not claiming that she did, did you read my posts? I am saying that YOU can't disregard that possibility only because you don't like it. If you can't prove anything stop talking about fanfic.
>>133102826 I found the last arc pretty disappointing because Ken seems to have decided to turn UQ into a harem and introduced new girls that are in love with Touta as well as revealing that most preexisting girls are now in love with him.
>>133102910 >I do not believe in God, but rather that Earth was created by an alien race called the Moogu who have 2 heads, 4 arms and 12 penises and can also alter reality and create worlds out of nothing! >that sure sounds like a bunch of bullshit anon >Well you can't prove me wrong!
The one who claims is the one who has to back up otherwise he's just full of shit. So long as you keep saying that "Eva loved Touta all along" than you also need to prove it somehow or shut up.
>>133103375 Nope, it's already better than what you got on the table so far. Now you have to get at least as much there or it's all just your personal fanfic. Which is a retarded way of discussing things, but you got to taste your own medicine.
>>133103432 It may indicate a thousand various things, from her only having liked him while she was very young (childish crush), to just some generic comment (along the line he said to Negi in Negima to taunt him) to her having stopped loving him since a lot (hence why he's late, she already fell for Nagi and Negi). None of that is evidence that she "loved Touta all along"
>>133103435 The events of UQH happens before Negima so you accept it or fuck off. We don't give a shit about Ken's intention, when Negima ended, readers wanted more backstory, now that there are more reveals about her past nostalgiafags are pissed because romance.
You guys are idiots. Of course the new manga will show more things pointing towards Eva's love towards Touta. Touta is the MC that have almost everything given to him. Ken is obviously pushing Touta towards more Negima shit becuase he wants it to sell. Just imagine what would happen if this manga isn't in anyway related to Negima. A lot less people would actually try to read it and any who does read it will only say that it is shit.
I wish she would confess and end everything but it'll take too long for that to happen, especially with Ken being a fan of haremshit. Nostalgiafags are cancer, I can't believe you are fellow Negima fags like me.
>>133103570 It's actually really hard to like Touta, Yes he is nice but he is fucking stupid with everything works his way. He isn't even a loveable idiot like Goku is. He is just there being super talented, have everyone fawning over him and being a white knight and not a gentleman like Negi or a rebel like Nagi. Just a super talented hick.
>>133103894 He made it and called it UQ-Holder and have it in some way related to Negima. Now he doesn't have to build a new fanbase that would have to like the actual story. He just have to bait the old fans to read this.
>>133103893 This. By all accounts he's an idiot who just so happens to be gifted with super-genes, immortality, super duper regeneration powers and some of the strongest teachers in existance (from the get-go) together with ME and Magic Cancel.
Personality wise he's really nothing special, that "genki" shit he does got really tiresome really soon.
>>133104056 Hyperboles are used to complement an argument (in this case, the great number of possibilities) by making it stand out clear even to idiots. Unfortunately they also have the side effect of calling THAT idiot who takes the hyperbole literally and complains "they're not actually a million!!!11".
>>133104065 Look, let me be honest, I get that you don't like how UQH is turning out, and that's fine, I get that and respect that opinion but must we have this argument every fucking thread, no one ever changes their mind and all we do is argue again and again. At this point all we do in these threads is fight with each other which is pointless because we always repeat the same shit the next thread.
>>133104137 So, you would honestly continue to read a story about a boy turned immortal because of hot stepmother and make go train at a place with full of other immortal. Now make the boy super powerful at the start and have him come from a super special family. Also make every girl that get even close to him fall in love with him, even the nongender boygirl.
>>133104119 I meant to say your the hyperbole doesn´t work idiot. The possibilties are few in numbers because Yukihime clearly loves Touta. If it´s fondness or other ways of love could be interpretations but the chapter itself made the way Yukihime handled the propose quite obvious.
I dunno anon, as a kid I had similar hips. Skinnyfag kids can look like that. I mean I still look like that, though my hips have obviously gotten a bit bigger. Still, kids can definitely have some definition to their hips if they're skinny enough.
>>133104296 Just goes to show how inferior UQH is. With Negima people want to read it because of unique setting with a unique mc and a unique plot, With UQH, people want to read it because it continues Negima. How low can Ken go?
>>133104296 >So, you would honestly continue to read a story yes i would.And it seems you do to >have him come from a super special family. Also make every girl that get even close to him fall in love with him Sounds like Negima to me. >boy turned immortal because of hot stepmother and make go train at a place with full of other immortal Nothing bad with that.
If you don't read UQ Holder then don't fucking comment, it is that simple
Touta has all those powers because he's a weapon created using the best possible DNA in order to ensure the Springfield bloodline and the inherent ubermensch traits therein continue on even though Negi had no known children, he doesn't "just have" those powers
>>133104559 So you just skip over everything else and aay you want to read it. Now tell me that the plot you've read is readable with there having a Negima connection. I read it because it continues what happen in Negima. Hoping Negi would show up and replace Touta.
>>133104613 >Touta has all those powers because he's a weapon created using the best possible DNA in order to ensure blah blah blah I wasn't talking about the bullshit explanations given to justify all the thousand powers he have, that's beyond the point.
>>133104664 >planned by Akamatsu from the beginning as part of the greater overarching plot >"THOSE ARE JUST BULLSHIT EXPLANATIONS"
No, the answer is you'll never be satisfied as long as UQ Holder isn't negima. Just fuck off, go watch something else instead of telling us about your shit taste and asshurt about stories that have already ended.
>>133104613 That's the reason he had it you dumbass. He still has that power even without training. Just because you have a reason doesn't make it okay. And now you just made him a special defunct clone because he was a failure but still have all the powersa and it still keep coming.
>>133104695 No, stop trying to change the subject and please tell me that the manga is readable with that plot without having any Negima connection. Please just admit that you will read so I can say you have shit taste.
>>133104743 >Chao was born with ME because she is in Negi's family >THAT'S BULLSHIT >Touta was engineered as a biological weapon >THAT'S BULLSHIT
Just having them is fucking irrelevant, he doesn't need to start out at zero because he wasn't born naturally and Negi doesn't even know he or his sister exist because they were created with Negi's DNA to serve a specific purpose central to the overall plot of the story
>>133104836 >Chao was born with ME because she is in Negi's family One power, fine by me >>Touta was engineered as a biological weapon Five? Six? Nine? How many stupid shit does Touta get in comparison?
>>133104748 >we NEED training arcs >he was a failed clone because putting ice cream on a bacon cheeseburger doesn't make something better than the original two ingredients were they separate >abloo bloo bloo
I would call this stupidity trolling, but your asspain and nonsensical reasoning as to why it is "not good" that Touta already has powers makes me think you can only be a genuine moron
The only one who is changing the subject is you. UQ Holder was never intended to be it's own story so your entire argument is again just you being a rectally ravaged faggot and deserves no real response.
>>133104882 >he has two powers that cancel each other out that he still can't use to any effective capacity because he was ENGINEERED to be the ultimate biological weapon >"that's bullshit and overpowered!"
Go back to fucking one piece then you annoying shounenshit loving faggot
>>133104914 >training arcs >with the best teacher you could find >it's even a surprise that they can find anyone more special to train them than Eva >but they did >it was Eva teacher >training arcs still put him above everyone else training with him >failed clone doing what other failed clone failed to do that is ME
Immortal beings. It is completely different from "an organization of super beings" because the story itself can be told over several hundred years because the characters never age, never die. It is more like a Tolkein story if it wasn't about specific wars but about an elf who lives through all the wars, makes friends and lovers with mortals and then watches them slowly die away.
>harry potter BUT AS A TEACHER >and all the students are girls who want his dick
There are plenty of magical school stories, tweaking it slightly doesn't make it more original. What made Negima was the overall plot once it began to break away from haremshit.
>>133105032 Teacher is a gift now? The whole story is about immortals. Negi had Rakan and Eva as teachers and became immortal himself, he was a freaking genius at everything and super compatible with ME, the kid surpassed old fighters at 11. If he doesn't train it's pointless.
>>133105146 He had ME before turning into a vampire. And to be fair, his vampirism has been a burden so far, he never used vampire powers and got rekted by immortal hunters. ME gives you immortality, that's how Negi became immortal.
>>133105207 I don't need to because there are a bunch of stories which are similar. The fact that Negima has some elements and not others doesn't make it super unique. The very fact that it came out during the era of Harry Potter should make it fucking clear the inspiration was "I want to do magic shounenshit, but they want me to do another harem so I'll combine the two". The MEAT of Negima came from how the story developed from there, Negima would easily be a giant pile of trash in the hands of a less competent writer because "Harry potter teaches a class of girls who all want his cock" isn't all that original and doesn't sound all that interesting beyond the potential for seeing drawn titties.
>>133105131 It is a good story if it was like that elf story. But this manga plays it out like a normal unique being organization story. If it is still a story about an organization with unique beings it still wouldn't be different enough as the story must and will take place in one kind of time.
>>133105254 I understand that you are annoyed because the MC is an immortal in a series about immortals. He had Eva as a teacher and was laughably weak. It needed roughly 100 chapters to make him somewhat strong.
Except the part where Negima ran for ten years and UQ Holder has only been going for two so far.
>there haven't been any 30 year timeskips yet, so there will never be any timeskips where the human girls lusting after Touta's dick become ara ara nee-sans and then become married women with their own kids who in turn become friends with Touta or lust after his dick
And of course the part where we've already gotten glimpses into the 800 year lifespan of Eva
>>133105268 It doesn't need to. Just change everything that have any relation to Negima into someone else. I could even argue that you don't need to read Negima to read UQH. Sure there will be something that will be lost on you but you would still get the general story. So, you wouldn't read it?
>>133105379 I'm annoyed because Touta managed to end up with 4-6 super awesome powers or teachers or gifts without any real training or struggle whatsoever. I'm fine with MC being blessed with some sort of superpower that makes him stand out above the others, but regeneration, magic cancel, magia erebea and all that other shit? Blah.
>>133105471 Unless it ever plays out like a different story, this isn't any different from any unique being organization story, Negima had a unique setting from the get go. UQH needs a maybe. Goes to show which one is the better manga.
>>133105366 And Touta is always treated like shit when compared to Negi. It was often said that Negi was different from Nagi but he wasn't treated like shit like that, they acknowledged that he had other talents and Negi idolized him too much.
>story about immortals >has already had immortal shenanigans between Eva and Touta over a several hundred year period and between Eva+Fate and the MOTB over a long period of time as well >"no the story has not yet used the immortal angle it is just X-Men"
You're either being deliberately obtuse, or you haven't read past chapter 20
>>133105597 And I argue that you can read this without reading Negima. It would just make the story harder to understand. Which makes it a bad manga if it doesn't have any relation with Negima, It doesn't even have anything unique enough. It should have been called Negima 2 for fucks saks because this isn't its own story but a sequel trying to look like its own story.
>>133105564 And he's still weak as fuck. There are plenty of OP stuff in the story I don't get why you are complaining, they will face immortals all the time. Karin immortality and light magic, Kirie reset etc, all of this is OP. And Touta wants to beat Fate.
>>133105689 Does it play out like a normal story with a unique organization? Or did it already do the withstanding the many wars shit and making friends and connections for a thousand years or something with Touta. If it haven't done anything unique like that it is still a normal story about a unique organization. The immortal angle is the unique angle. So you really think that Xmen and a story about a group of psychics is any different? Unless it uses the angle of withstanding the flow of time shit with the main cast so we can see it. It isn't different enough.
>>133107047 Don't forget that once Touta gained immortality he could easily do life-threatening training and tests over and over again without any worry whatsoever, while Negi would have had to risk his butt every time and succeed on the first try.
>>133107047 Not that guy but >get looks down because he was a kid yeah the most looked down upon kid ever with a harem of 30 bitches >have to be discrete how long has it been that you've read negima? He exposed his identity as a magician pretty much every two chapters. He literally talked with some of the girls about magic stuff while some of the others that still didn't knew shit were standing around them. To bad they were distracted drooling over his 10 year old ass for no reason.
>Train that step technique one time. So did Negi. No seriously, they showed him one time and in the tournament he performed it perfectly. In my opinion Touta might have had even a harder time learning it.
>>133107320 >So did Negi. No seriously, they showed him one time and in the tournament he performed it perfectly. Funny, it's like you never read that part in Negima where he's training with Kotarou at the beach. You know, practicing the step technique.
>>133107320 Please tell me you aren't kidding. He was looked down upon instantly when he enters the school. He was a kid. Touta had everyone fawn over him because of his charm. Negi had to be nice. Negi had to be discrete for quite a long time. Longer than Touta had to. No, Negi had to practice.
>>133107521 Touta has it really really piss fucking easy because he's a lysenkoist clone. He has all the shit Negi had just by being a clone of his. Touta's only fall is that he's sort of crappy clone and lacks memories to completely rolfstomp everything in his path.
>>133107521 >please tell me you aren't kidding Ok. I aren't kidding. >he was looked down upon yes he sure was and it did usually go like this. "Look at this cute teacher! He's so fucking cute. But he's just a child... Yes but he's apparently a genius!" That was all. And that was by pretty much everyone in the school. This changed when he battled someone but in the school he was a fucking superstar, I don't even know what you're talking. >Negi had to be discrete for quite a long time yes sure he should have but he wasn't discrete AT ALL. >Longer than Touta had to Everyone and their mother knows about magic in UQ Holder so this is completely irrelevant >No, Negi had to practice Of course he had but not considering the instant movement. He kind of did it a few times with Kotarou and then performed it pretty much perfectly at the tournament.
>>133107685 they sure did but they still wanted the D. Also they did this despite having displayed faith in him countless of times before and after and while taking him completely serious as a teacher (after maybe the first two weeks he had a little trouble)
>>133107980 >yes sure he should have but he wasn't discrete AT ALL. He was shackled by discretion under the Ermine Transformation Punishment law, even if at times had to drop it for the girl's safety. Touta had none of that. >Everyone and their mother knows about magic in UQ Holder so this is completely irrelevant It is relevant in the sense that Touta has it easy, Negi didn't. >Of course he had but not considering the instant movement. He kind of did it a few times with Kotarou and then performed it pretty much perfectly at the tournament. Guess you missed how this "practice" took place inside Eva's summer resort, where time slows down a lot, and then just fast-forwarded to the tournament. He spent a lot of time training for it.
I wish people wouldn't respond to these threads without a better memory of Negima.
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