>Fate/stay night - Heaven's Feel Chapter 05 [Beast's Lair & One Pilgrim]
Chapter 5 is out for anyone following this, pretty good and the art is as great as always.
I can dump it if anyone wants me to by the way, just ask.
'k i'll start.
Thanks the faggots that did this.
Tends to happen when you carry all the evils in the world.
He also learned his
>Men must protect wimen guise
>I'm surprised I managed at a time like this
The power of plot armor
This is pretty much the same as the VN, except it has that Sakura prologue.
I hope they add it to the movies because in the VN you have the same Rin prologue every time, so adding that would be new and it would give more of Sakura because she's not very relevant in the other two routes so giving her characterization or more screen time(instead of her being all the time saying senpai) would be for the best.
Now these color pages are from chapter 3 but since they fit i'll add them here.
Rin and Saber save Shirou's life and both become an inspiration for him later on in life. Sakura,meanwhile is completely irreverent and you could probably write her character out completely without affecting the overall plot of Fate Stay Night or Fate/Zero. Why did Nasu create her again? Not to be mean but her entire existence seems rather superfluous at best and burdensome at worse.
Man this took time, can't we have Hiro drop the waiting time to 30 sec? Anyways, don't let the thread die or something.
They all look good
>I never read heaven's feel
Do you seriously think Sakura means nothing to Shirou? Do you really think he doesn't grow as a person after HF? Do you really think he doesn't get a happy NORMAL life after all that BECAUSE he's along Sakura?
And don't reply, I know you're baiting.
Well it looks better than Ufotable's Rhinos that's for sure.
>Our true nature is death, not life
This man may possibly be the fucking greatest protagonist in any anime I've ever seen.
>Has a hot wife
>Has a hot partner
>Fucks them both
>Doesn't give a fuck about magic rules
>Fuck your chivalry
>Fuck your nobility
Emiya Kiritsugu: Genuine Badass
>can't save anyone
>both of his kids end up being fucked up human beings
Way to go, Kerry.
She said the exact same thing, so it's hard to believe she was thinking of anyone else. What other girl that Rin cared for would've cried for Shirou's death at this point? Ayako?
>read that as Breasts Lair
Sakura, stop having giant tits
The best thing about all that is that her body is GOAT.
>With her long, lustrous hair, soothing smile, and (secretly) dynamite body
Everything you see when clothed? Well let's add a x10 in sexyness and hotness
I did read it and anything Sakura is to Shirou in that route could easily be replaced with IIya. angra manyu's little plotine, the ideal between choosing between cold hard logic and your own human emotions? IIya can provide those herself. As for the shadow, the deaths related to that and the servants? I'm positive nobody will miss the shadow and the servants could just simply be recalled into the throne because of the grail going haywire. Sakura's so pointless it's like she exists because they needed a busty character for the h scenes since Rin and Saber were just DFC.
Under that logic, all the heroines could be written off and subsititued by another person. And Illya doesn't work for the lewd stuff and moral conflict that Sakura provided because she is a very different kind of character. In other words, stop projecting your dislikes.
>moral conflict that Sakura provided because she is a very different kind of character. In other words, stop projecting your dislikes.
"Should I save someone I care about even if by doing so I'll be causing pain to myself and others?"
IIya can do that moral because, if you haven't read the game, She's his fucking sister that he's eager to connect with on a family level. While also being the grail that many people are killing themselves over and doing horrific things to others for the chance to use that power. A power that could lead humanity to something wonderful, maybe even the world Kerry dreamed of all the way til he died.
That could of been a far better written than the Sakura one. Stop trying to make this into a personal attack on her character just because she's your waifu.
She doesn't fit with the whole Angra Mainyu business because as I said, that would be neglecting the Matou side and she doesn't match the lewdness that it's tied to Sakura's storyline. On a superficial level, yeah, but it wouldn't be HF but a completely different thing. Add that Illya is the only main character who doesn't have "two faces" or wears a "mask" at some point, so for HF she works perfectly with the role she has.
What you want is an Illya route, but that will be another thing.
>That would fuck over Rin's character though.
Why? None of the things that make Rin herself are dependent on Sakura. Unless you buy that notion that Sakura being alive and to Rin, seemingly happy and content. Is what allows her to be who she is without turning into a heartless magi like her peers.
I mean her conflict between her magus side and her human side. That's a huge part of Rin that is only touched deeply in HF, and it's totally tied to Sakura being in the position she is.
Rin is kind hearted enough for that to happen. She is not killing anybody, she is killing her own sister. And Rin definitely loves her sister.
And it's not really nuts but determined to get the Grail doesn't matter the cost and its true nature.
Why are you forcing your headcanon into a story that's already been told a decade ago?
What makes you think Sakura means so little to Rin when the creator says otherwise?
Take it easy with the hateboner faggot.
If that's the case why did they say that Rin would be Shirou's enemy in Mind of Steel? The grail's gone fubar at that point, there's no point in fighting her or really any magus anymore after Sakura's dead.
I didn't say that at all. I'm saying Rin's not so mentally weak she'd stop functioning and stop being herself just because of Sakura's death. Rin has endured some horrible shit throughout her life and this one will just be another one of those things she'll just have to move on from like her father's death and her mother's death.
Why are you acting like I'm saying Rin doesn't love Sakura or care about her at all?
>Rin has endured some horrible shit throughout her life
Bullshit. Are you seriously talking about enduring hard shit throughout your life in a Heaven's Feel thread?
Her daddy dying is not hard, she was a kid and got over it.
Rin basically lost everything as a child and grew up stuck with an asshole and being alone all the time. It's a miracle she's the sanest member of the cast and you're downplaying her ability to endure and move on for no reason.
There's a big difference between the deaths of your father, someone who you expected to die, and your mother, someone who was sick from as long as you remember to your baby sister who was the only one holding you together and preventing you to turn into coldsteel magus 101. You might want to undermine Rin feeling's for Sakura but it's pretty clear Rin is who she is because she knows Sakura is alive and thinks she's well, when she discovers what happened to Sakura and after she goes into the Matou's house she realizes she could've stormed into there and take her little sister back at any given time, realizing she was being stupid.
Sakura is someone really important for Rin, she was able to live a "normal" life because Sakura was seemingly fine with the Matou. If it wasn't for her Rin would've turned into Tokiomi way back then.
Her daddy died, that's fucking it. Nasu himself says that Tokiomi surviving the war would've turned out into Rin never ever being happy. Kirei was annoying and kind of an asshole but that's it, he didn't torture her or made her go through anything hard.
She's a fucking rich orphan, there's nothing that could've made her like Shirou or Sakura, you're exaggerating it way too much, she was lonely and that's it. Illya had it x100 times worse than her.
Why don't you kill yourself newshit? And stop pretending like Rin had an awful life you fucktard. Stop pretending she suffered the same shit Sakura, Shirou or Illya did.
Did she have a perfectly happy life? No not really, it had it's problems and lonelyness. Still better than Tokiomi surviving the war.
Did she have a fucked up life? Not even close.
That seems so out of character for Rin. She's not power hungry or sociopath retarded like Kirei. Even she would know the grail is pointless, there's no reason to battle anyone over it, anymore. The only way I could see a confrontation actually happening is if she goes cucukoo for coco puffs insane thinking she could revive Sakura with the grails power and give her a normal life.
He fell for the half assed "Pity me" style of writing that went on with Sakura's character in Heaven's Feel. That's what made me more sure that she was hamfisted into a plot that didn't need her. That and how much sex was involved with her character. Semen, worms that ate her birth canal and uterus?? So easily aroused she just has to reach down and satisfy herself next to Shirou's unconscious shirtless body?
What the fuck was Nasu thinking?
She would want to make up for her loss as it's said. And that is prefectly on character for Rin as it was said before, the whole reason Rin was able to live a normal life was because she though Sakura was doing fine. Once Sakura is gone she goes full cold magus mode and throws her kindness aside.
>he whole reason Rin was able to live a normal life was because she though Sakura was doing fine. Once Sakura is gone she goes full cold magus mode and throws her kindness aside.
It doesn't say anything like this in the narrative. Sakurafags are overestimating how important she is to Shirou and Rin and I guess, Rider. It's ridiculous and it's the big fat downside of Heaven's Feel. It's hard to care about her as much as they do when the only things we've been introduced to Sakura so far is that she's whiny,selfish,spiteful, holds grudges and is jealous to near yandere levels even without the fake plot device known as the angra manyu plotline and the shadow. Sakura enjoyed every minute of that even if she doesn't want to admit it. Just like a few of you would likely enjoy slaughtering normalfags by the truckloads and getting back at all those who rejected you or did something to you.
>IIya can do that moral because, if you haven't read the game, She's his fucking sister that he's eager to connect with on a family level.
Shirou has known and cared about Sakura for longer and the route goes into detail about that. The manga should also show us the same progression of how she was sent to Shirou's place as a spy, came to care about him and healed her colder Zero like stoicism, and with Taiga, became a small family over the course of two years. It's obvious the movie and manga will show more details of this. One thing I will want to see is the part where she sends Rider to save him from Zouken at Ryuudo Temple from her perspective and how she dealt with the repurcussions of being at lethal levels of life force, as well as building up the courage to oppose Zouken. We already know she can share vision with Rider from other scenes in the route.
They have all that time together, and while Ilya is good, and has the ties to Kerry, Sakura is more emotionally linked to him at the beginning. He even says several times that Sakura helped him by bringing warmth to his household along with Taiga after Kerry died, and he considers her his family. There was even a scene he frankly states that his house belongs to her as well, as part of his family.
Given we see the more generous sides to her quite a bit before the fallout, which you are greatly exaggerating yourself, I would say it's you that is underestimating the importance she has.
Your arguments about her being selfish take one bit of her character and shave away all context of the situation at hand. By that margin you could say all there was to Ilya was holding a grudge because she ends up blackmailing Sakura with Shirou's soul in one bad end, even after they seemingly become more acquainted.
tl;dr - Your arguments are flawed and you have as much bias as you claim others do.
>crossboarder reaction gif
As expected of a Sakura hater.