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Work is healthy, you can hardly put more upon a man than he can bear. It is not work that kills men; it is worry. Worry is rust upon the blade.
oh I'm deeply sorry, for a second there I thought you were serious
I love Japanese. Why is this language so fucking fun? I was expecting some awful slog through thousands of words, but it's been nothing but non-stop fun for the last 6 months or so.
Isn't this strange? Wasn't this language supposed to be one of the hardest around? Then why is every aspect so simple compared to my native English?
>Then why is every aspect so simple compared to my native English?
English is pretty difficult though, I'd rank it upper mid level
>I love Japanese. Why is this language so fucking fun? I was expecting some awful slog through thousands of words, but it's been nothing but non-stop fun for the last 6 months or so.
Learning languages is fun.
>Isn't this strange? Wasn't this language supposed to be one of the hardest around? Then why is every aspect so simple compared to my native English?
For starters, English is ALSO one of the hardest around. In fact, English is arguably harder than Japanese, Japanese is only "one of the hardest" for us westerners while English is hard for everyone.
Second, spoken Japanese is actually fairly simple, it's the writing system that gets people.
>Almost all -ru verbs are like this
Why the fuck?
>I was expecting some awful slog through thousands of words
That "slog" arises as months and years pass and you're still blown the fuck out by vocabulary in things you want to read (see: non shounen manga). If you're in your first six months then you haven't quite experienced "intermediate hell" as it's known (see >>133119196). Well, you may be one of those folks who do 100 words in anki, in that case you'll probably skip that entirely.
Also, as >>133135795 says, most of the difficulty in Japanese is actually kanji (inb4 inevitable "its just a time sink" comments), though some aspects like properly speaking keigo and names are real killers.
>Learning languages is fun.
Very true. The other day I looked up some word and ended up reading about 戦国時代 for like four hours.
Literally started two days ago. Didn't know these threads existed until very recently, wanted to learn japanese for a while and decided it was time to learn something already.
Started on my Hiragana and still learning how to write each character properly.
Please be nice to me, senpai.
why waste time on someone who will give up again in 2 weeks
Are you trying to motivate me by pissing me off?
Because it's working.
People who give up do so out of apathy more than anything else, even if he pisses you off it won't matter because time has shown most people just stop caring after a couple weeks and quit studying. Will you be different?
do you really think I'd go out of my way like that?
now fuck off and study
Started 11 years ago. Still a beginner. Possibly upper beginner.
don't worry, most people take a lifetime to complete RTK
do you guys to any conventions or do cosplay?
Or is the /djt/ only for introverts?
I'm confused now
I've been using a kanji radicals deck with anki, and just paging out to wikipedia's list of radicals to determine which of the pronunciations to remember.
However, I encountered 干 which wikipedia said to pronounce as ほし, but the deck only offers かん・いちじゅう・ほす・ひる・たてかん
I must be doing this wrong or something.
So do you guys cheat and use adderall or anything else to help study?
I've mostly been using adderall myself
Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
oh okay. thanks that helps a lot.
I'm studying the radicals real quick before I jump into normal vocabulary because it seems to make it easier to recognize/differentiate between kanji
Vitamin D because I don't go outside.
Fish Oil for supposed memory aid.
Multi vitamin to cover any gaps in my diet.
>You mean like 80% of the american population?
Smoking cigarettes literally is inhaling poisonous gas into your lungs that gives you cancer, destroys your health, and hastens you to death, and 17.8% of Americans *PAY* to do it knowing all this.
You realize it only helps you if you do it rarely? If you start every day with coffee you're literally getting no benefit from it, just staving off withdrawal.
Just because it's common doesn't mean it's beneficial.
This may surprise you but if you're not addicted to caffeine and sleep properly then you will not wake up feeling dead inside.
I was just pointing out that just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it smart to do. If 20% of people pay to kill themselves then 80% of people paying to do something stupid and unhelpful isn't that unthinkable. Like other anon said: Just because it's common doesn't mean it's beneficial.
>You realize it only helps you if you do it rarely?
Not if you're sleep deprived like literally every single american that both has a full time job and hobbies.
There are also a large number of undiagnosed ADD people and people with "false" or stress induced ADD, for whom any stimulants, even just caffeine, help their short term memory.
Sleep deprivation is bad for your mental health and body, fuckin' schedule 6-8 hours of sleep every day, it's obviously stupid to force yourself to operate on insufficient sleep using drugs. This isn't even arguable.
>I was just pointing out that just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it smart to do. If 20% of people pay to kill themselves then 80% of people paying to do something stupid and unhelpful isn't that unthinkable. Like other anon said: Just because it's common doesn't mean it's beneficial.
This is not a propositional argument though. Ten words or less: How is caffeine /actually/ dubious?
Your path is weak senpai, I must find my own way
my concrete jungle hoodlum brother
It improves retention and also it makes it easier to just focus and forget about stupid stuff like needing water or food, if youre not a dummy you can just sit and work for hours and not even realize how much time has passed.
I take fish oil anyway cause I have like no omega3 and eating fish makes me sick for whatever reason
Also I should take vitamin D, never leave the house either
>Sleep deprivation is bad for your mental health and body, fuckin' schedule 6-8 hours of sleep every day
If you don't -literally- sleep to your body's natural clock, you are sleep deprived. If you wake up to an alarm, you are sleep deprived. If you wake up to a schedule, you are sleep deprived.
>This isn't even arguable.
No, but your unrealistic autismal worldview is.
>Not if you're sleep deprived like literally every single american that both has a full time job and hobbies.
If you start every morning with caffeine, IT IS ONLY MAKING YOU MORE TIRED.
It doesn't matter how little sleep you get or whatever other bullshit you have going on. Regular caffeine consumption gives you a "new normal" that's lower than what you'd be at without it, and leaves you 10x as tired until you feed your addiction.
A week without coffee and you'd wake up every morning with a slightly higher energy level than you usually get after you finish your regular coffee.
This is scientific fact.
His whole statement was
>80% of people use it so I doubt it's bad
to which I said
>20% of people smoke so your logic is bad.
If you go to bed at the same time every day, over time you will wake up at the same time without needing an alarm. And sleep deprivation isn't as simple as you're making it, try reading about the subject before posting.
let's all learn something rather than argue around, shall we?
>If you start every morning with caffeine, IT IS ONLY MAKING YOU MORE TIRED.
>It doesn't matter how little sleep you get or whatever other bullshit you have going on.
According to who?
>Regular caffeine consumption gives you a "new normal"
So you're saying that it's literally ineffectual?
>and leaves you 10x as tired until you feed your addiction.
Confirmed for retard
>A week without coffee and you'd wake up every morning with a slightly higher energy level than you usually get after you finish your regular coffee.
The dependency on caffeine lasts roughly 1.5 months, not one week.
Caffeine does not affect your "energy levels", it affects your neurology.
>His whole statement was
--was not a propositional argument. And was responded to with a fallacious propositional argument.
>If you go to bed at the same time every day, over time you will wake up at the same time without needing an alarm.
That has nothing to do with the simple fact that people *do not* live their lives like that.
>And sleep deprivation isn't as simple as you're making it, try reading about the subject before posting.
Whether you /have/ it, is that simple. The extent is irrelevant to the argument at hand, because it's an absolutism about "is caffeine, as such, beneficial to sleep deprivation, as such", with no statements about magnitude.
>Anecdotes don't disprove absolutist interpretations of inductive data
My little anon can't be this sophomore!
>was not a propositional argument.
You're dancing around it but he clearly was saying that because 80% of americans use it he doubts its bad, and ergo noting that 17.8% of americans smoke is a natural response. Stop with your meandering bullshit because you cna't change that.
>That has nothing to do with the simple fact that people *do not* live their lives like that.
Which is their problem.
>he extent is irrelevant to the argument at hand, because it's an absolutism about "is caffeine, as such, beneficial to sleep deprivation, as such", with no statements about magnitude.
What the heck are you even trying to say? You oversimplified sleep depriviation with incorrect statements such as "if you wake up to an alarm you're sleep deprived" which is not true.
Is this the legendary argumentative autist? Shouting a lot of rhetoric while having no substance behind it?
>You're dancing around it but he clearly was saying that because 80% of americans use it he doubts its bad
Nope. Doubts it to be /dubious/. Completely different.
>Which is their problem.
Yes, but it's not /this/ problem.
>What the heck are you even trying to say?
You can't follow simple logic? Let me break it down for you:
1) We're talking about caffeine
2) We're not stating how much
3) We're talking about how this undefined amount of caffeine relates to sleep deprivation
4) You make an argument about the /amount/ of sleep deprivation
5) This is a fallacy of invalid context
>You oversimplified sleep depriviation with incorrect statements such as "if you wake up to an alarm you're sleep deprived" which is not true.
Except it is. Research shows that people who wake up to alarms every day, even if they go to bed for example 8 hrs before their alarm (a sensible amount of time), all show signs of minor to mild sleep deprivation over time.
>Is this the legendary argumentative autist?
"Waaahhh someone disagrees with me so I have to pull out my boogeyman!"
You've clearly drifted into your own world of /fallacies/ and /rhetoric/.
>Doubts it to be /dubious/.
And that doubt is based on the illogical proposition that because 80% of people use it, it probably isn't bad. It's illogical for obvious reasons and the smoking analogy served as an easy to understand example.
>Yes, but it's not /this/ problem.
Yes it is.
>You make an argument about the /amount/ of sleep deprivation
No I didn't.
< Research shows that people who wake up to alarms every day, even if they go to bed for example 8 hrs before their alarm (a sensible amount of time), all show signs of minor to mild sleep deprivation over time.
Let's see this research.
>"Waaahhh someone disagrees with me so I have to pull out my boogeyman!"
Wahhh someone is being autistic and argumentative
>Except it is. Research shows that people who wake up to alarms every day, even if they go to bed for example 8 hrs before their alarm (a sensible amount of time), all show signs of minor to mild sleep deprivation over time.
Not him, but I'm finding this conversation interesting. I never use an alarm clock and haven't for about 4 years. I always wake up around the same time with 5-6 hours of sleep. (Usually something like 1am to 7am.) Is this alright?
What was this game called?
>Sleep is time that could be spent studying kanji
This is why I use the Uberman sleep cycle, Everyman is fine if you're a beginner
>And that doubt is based on the illogical proposition that because 80% of people use it, it probably isn't bad.
Stop using that word. I'm not going to respond to this line of argument until you stop using the word "bad" to describe this view on caffeine.
>Yes it is.
Ten words or less. Go.
>No I didn't.
>Sleep deprivation is bad for your mental health and body, fuckin' schedule 6-8 hours of sleep every day, it's obviously stupid to force yourself to operate on insufficient sleep using drugs. This isn't even arguable.
>And sleep deprivation isn't as simple as you're making it, try reading about the subject before posting.
It is literally impossible for these two views to be held without there being an argument about differing amounts of sleep deprivation.
>Let's see this research.
Beholden yourself to an entire genre of academics that you're totally alien to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Roenneberg
I'm not going to bother responding to anything else on this line of argument until you read this page top to bottom.
>Wahhh someone is being autistic and argumentative
That is you. As someone who instigates and partakes a verbose argument, you're being autistic and argumentative, at this very moment.
>Where are you f am?
This sounds like a bullshit statistic.
I can't speak from personal experience, but going off of Steve Kauffman's accounts + my own experiences, production is a separate yet highly related skill. There are people who can produce far better than they can listen (these people are generally very bad at both, though). If you think about it, unless your listening skills are very good, you can probably think of a few words that you could say but wouldn't necessarily pick out in a conversation between two Japanese people.
Steve says that production is like this: You "activate" your passive vocabulary through sheer practice. It's tough as shit at first, but over the course of a few weeks of non-stop production, your passive knowledge begins to kick in, and it gets easier. Where input helps here is that it builds your passive vocabulary and gets you used to the rhythm of the language, thereby greatly increasing your potential and making you much better at production when you finally get the hang of it.
>that feel when you're watching a variety show and see a celebrity you actually know for once
>that feel when you actually understand a reference because you've seen the drama they're referencing
Finally. I'm becoming Japanese.
Now all I have to do is watch a few thousand episodes of Doraemon.
In other words:
You can't produce what you don't understand, but you can understand whatever you can (actually) produce.
Different people are better or worse at actually producing, but it's somewhat relative to what they can understand.
>watch gaki no tsukai end of year show
>only reason I recognize anyone is because I've watched the other end of year shows
>still miss half the jokes because I don't actually know these people
I'd like to watch these with extensive TL notes
since sunday. got all the hiragana down today and started reading about grammar + 2k thing on anki. i'll probably get started with katakana tomorrow.
i havent done any handwriting. will probably regret that later.
It's more likely that you don't have a set sleep schedule.
If you wake up at 10 a.m. every single day, eventually, your body will start waking you up at 10 a.m. even without an alarm. Same thing with sleep. If you go to sleep at 2 a.m. every single day, eventually, your body will begin with get drowsy a little before 2 a.m.
You can also sleep too much. Personally, my body begins to fuck me over if I get more than nine hours of sleep.
Lastly, consider exercising. That'll boost your energy levels a bit.
I feel like a lot of those gags wouldn't even work with TL notes, the joke is the sudden appearance of some heavy drama actor in a silly role.
The best they can do is say "this is a parody of the ending scene of a classic show from 30 years ago that everyone in Japan knows about".
>episode has people who do paintings and such
>they keep saying しゃせい
>slight smile every time I hear it
This is why learning words from doujins and hentai before being fluent is not a great idea
>started college a bit over a month ago
>halfway through genki's lesson 2
>still haven't taught us any kanji
>almost everyone is stuttering hard even at hiragana, let alone katakana
>a-at least I know how to make ikebana and some important places of a country I never plan to move to
I won't walk out of this college and be able to speak it fluently, will I?
I already know 37 kanji. Should've studiet it alone and major in something else ;_;
Sorry you were stupid enough to major in a fucking language.
What's worse is that the culture element of your course will focus on stupid bullshit anyone could learn from Wikipedia in 5 minutes.
If you're only a month in, is it really impossible for you to switch to a real major? It's not like you've missed much work.
I took a college Japanese course for 3 days and left. The professor (a Jap) told us that we were going to completely ignore kanji and do like 5 hiragana per class and eventually 5 katakana per class. If your goal isn't to get a job that requires a degree in Japanese, and you just want to learn the language for the sake of knowing the language, then learning on your own is invariably going to be faster than the majority of college courses.
>tfw already been neet for a year after highschool and was super excited to finally study something I like and get a senmon
>mfw can't switch majors like that because things in yuropoor don't work like that
Can't wait another year. Guess I have to study it myself and be waay ahead of the class like I already am.
Also, what the fuck is up with genki? Why do I know how to say major, post office, economics and history before I studied colors and stuff like that?
What the fuck do they do in these classes?
>20 minutes later
>Right, now look here: い
>20 minutes later
>Ok, time to move on: え
>Repeat for 1 year
I guess they waste a lot of time writing them down repeatedly and doing stuff in romaji until they learn the kana, but even so, it's hard to imagine how they fill up the time and make so little progress.
There's no way your university wouldn't let you switch if you asked and you had the grades. Tell them the alternative is you dropping out, and they'll change their tune in a heartbeat, all schools these days only exist for defrauding the government/dumb children. Pay obscene money to get a meaningless sheet of paper.
They're not going to give up on a golden goose a month in, they will beg you to stay for the full 3 years.
What do you guys use for reading manga? I have a kobo glo e-reader (which is fine for LNs ofc) and an old samsung tablet. It's quite heavy if you read for a while and I thought about getting something lighter. Recommendations?
Thought about a smaller tablet (~7-8 inch) or HD e-ink reader, anyone has some experience with those?
Buying the physical copies in Japanese is a pain in the ass in Europe and just costs too much for large quantities compared to buying a translated manga. Might be an option though for works I really enjoy. If you are from Europe, any recommended websites to order them? Experience ordering them directly from Japan yourself?
They mostly just talk about dolls and shit. But you are basically right.
I wanted to ask you guys, because I think you are smarter and of course might have experience with reading Kanjis on a small ass screen. It's not like reading Latin letters which we have been reading all our life.
Might as well try to get them to change my major.
Think that might require some bribing since I already signed the education contract and got myself registered. And that's assuming it's possible in the first place.
Also, what's the polite version of janakatta, I know janai = dewa/ja arimasen but I can't find janakatta in my book
Alright /a/, I am learning Japanese. NO I am not a weeaboo nerd. I am fascinated with Japanese culture, food, traditions, how the society is based on honor and being humble...I have fallen in love with Japan, and everything about it.
I hope to travel abroad in Japan someday. There are exchange student programs at my high school, but you have to pay for the whole thing; All they do is register you in the program. But it's something I will consider in Post-secondary.
I am very lucky that my school has three levels of Japanese courses. I do not think I would be as able to learn on my own than if I was in a class.
3rd year computer science student here. Should have finished already but dropped out for two years in the past.
Been completing my classes but I feel like I don't know shit and will never have the necessary competences to get a job in the area.
Not really going anywhere with the blogging, just wanna say I'm shit and only around because of Japanese.
>NO I am not a weeaboo nerd. I am fascinated with Japanese culture, food, traditions, how the society is based on honor and being humble...I have fallen in love with Japan, and everything about it.
It's okay, you are amongst kin now.
What's the difference between 2 completely different words with vastly different meanings, I mean they don't even have a single thing in common aside from being adjectives?
I don't know man, seems like a tough question. Try studying for a decade and maybe you'll work out the subtle differences.
Yeah that sounds like a shit definition. The guy above was characteristically dickish but he's basically right.
I bought a cheap 10 inch windows tablet for 2000 SEK (about 230 USD or 215 EUR) that works great for manga. I also get the benefit of being able to play VNs in bed, which is pretty neat.
I dont mind if people are dickish, we're on 4chan thanks for the links
will take a bit more care about that, I was just confused as both had the first one as gentle, that I thought that the difference is just some small nuance
>I am fascinated with Japanese culture, food, traditions, how the society is based on honor and being humble...I have fallen in love with Japan, and everything about it.
>I am not a weeaboo
Do you want to ask or just tell us your life story? This is not your blog kid.
I just finished learning hiragana and am now trying to understand sentences. Is now the time to start on kanji? I've heard that knowing kanji makes it much easier to read words in sentences.
You mean at 12 PM and 12 AM...?
>I am fascinated with Japanese culture, food, traditions, how the society is based on honor and being humble...I have fallen in love with Japan, and everything about it.
>I hope to travel abroad in Japan someday. There are exchange student programs at my high school, but you have to pay for the whole thing; All they do is register you in the program. But it's something I will consider in Post-secondary.
>I am very lucky that my school has three levels of Japanese courses. I do not think I would be as able to learn on my own than if I was in a class.
>NO I am not a weeaboo nerd.
I didnt think they changed, but In the genki book there is an exercise to tell what time Mary does stuff in her schedule and it has PM starting at 3:00 and not 12:00 like it would normally be in english.
23 months - 8 month break = 15 months
>want to play Langrisser 1 in japanese
>see that poor text detail
>I've only ever seen dogshit emulated scanlines so I don't know what I'm talking about
They're the absolute most important feature for retro gaming, because they heavily break up the jagged outlines of pixels.
You can pick one up for like 20 bucks, dude. Mine is an old medical set that cost a few thousand bucks new. Even came with the vent guards so you don't spill medicine or vomit inside.
I bet you also like curvature on screens faggot
Jesus christ, I stopped doing flashcards for a few week, and basically stopped caring ,and it was such a pain to come back and not even remember basic words. It was harder coming back that it was starting.
I'm guessing that he's not very far in.
>see word on flashcard
>run across it in the wild
>go through the same process with thousands of other words
How is this not teaching?
Reading will teach you the word eventually.
Anki + reading is the path of least resistance, though.
Yes, it is possible to handle your reading in a way that's not conductive towards learning.
And? You're going to have to kick that habit if you're looking to get good at Japanese, regardless of whether you use anki or not.
>If you use text hookers, this means that you automatically blindly rely on furigana and the dictionary telling you what every word means instead of recalling readings and piecing together sentences on your own.
Not true in the least.
>But you're prone to.
If you've formed such a habit, it's very possible to break it. It's called "don't look at the text parsing or hover over words until you've confirmed that you don't have sufficient knowledge to figure it out on your own".
You really should start reading as soon as you finish a grammar guide. Anki serves as a great auxiliary activity to reading, and reading makes anki easier. Many times, you'll find that you can just hit easy on an anki card because you've learned it from your reading, and that other cards containing kanji from that word will be no-effort.
Nope, that's still basic shit.
Japanese grammar guides for English-speaking learners in general never get terribly complicated, unless it's DoJG.
The fun starts when you begin reading native material. Part of the reason why people strongly recommend getting through the grammar guide quickly and then going straight into reading is because the example sentences and dialogues in grammar guides are very clean and simple compared to the actual, real life Japanese used by native speakers.
>learning kanji with conan
He explains what some of them mean
I got these to help me practice writing kanji. They're for elementary school kids, but I like them.
Would you guys actually be interested if I scanned it? I figured scans probably exist somewhere, I just didn't feel like printing it all out.
pic related is a sample of the interior
This. It gives basic steps with simple explanations
yeah even the untranslated eroge thread on jp thought it was weird, and that something was up.
if you ask me she might of done something like "i'l pretend i don't know these lewd words" or something like that girls do
No i mean she might be a funjoshi and she though hey if people think i know all these words that are often used in sex and kinky stuff they might think I'm a lewd girl so she said she didn't know them
Still heard there was a some backlash of something check the thread on /jp/ i guess
> Part of the reason why people strongly recommend getting through the grammar guide quickly and then going straight into reading is because the example sentences and dialogues in grammar guides are very clean and simple compared to the actual, real life Japanese used by native speakers.
It's also because the dialogue in Tae Kim is slightly awkward and often clearly non-native.
Still correct enough to learn from initially, but definitely not the patterns you want to ingrain into your head.
That getting my hands on a kindle paperwhite is the best thing I've done for Japanese. Seven pages into the chapter two of バカとテストと召喚獣 第01巻 and 186 words to add to Anki at some point. Going from ゆるゆり to this is certainly a change of format.
Would you say pic related scales to the size of an average page? It's hard to tell with the ereader due to the ability to scale font size which alters the "location" of the current screen page.
16-17 columns, cheers. The smallest font provides 18 columns, the largest font provides 4 giant columns. Pretty neat.
Sure does. The main reason I bought it. Ended up installing a third party dictionary instead of the J-E progression one. This is the dictionary: https://github.com/jrfonseca/jmdict-kindle
A few results yeild a couple of dictionaries put together by two people on reddit and someone on koohii but they are paid dictionaries on the amazon store. Let's be honest: they are only going to be put together using free databases and charging for that? Get fucked. This free one works better than the default.
I commute on the train everyday and read it from there. Plus it has a built in dictionary function where I can highlight a word and it gives me a definition with onyomi and kunyomi
There might be other versions on AnimeBytes. Have you tried there?
If you don't have an account, name an LN you want and I'll go check for you. That way you'll know whether trying to get an account is worth your time.
>Have trouble writing English legibly, let alone Japanese
>Generally do okay with writing kanji legibly, even though I struggle to produce some really basic ones wherever they appear (especially 女)
>Struggle a good deal with 鳥, 島, etc for no particular reason
>Write the most beautiful 島 I've ever written or seen
>Have to erase it because it was the wrong kanji anyway
it hurts my soul i'll never have one that good again
Decently well. My kana are pretty messy but that's only because I rush them. I'm never satisfied with my あs even when they don't look bad at all.
I gave up on the proper stroke order a while ago. I do it in reverse now, actually. Looks a tad bit better.
Oh by the way I was double wrong, that 島 is what I should have written in the first place so I erased it for nothing ;_;
Never give up anonymous!
Besides, I'm exaggerating. It's far from illegible, I just wish it looked better is all. I do practice religiously!
Hell, it's probably better than my English which nobody but me can read
>where do you guys get your light novels for your kindles
The CoR. An anon uploaded a shitload of kindle drm stripped ebooks.
>121 episodes left
Should I start doing core6k again? Got like 1700 reps piled up
>on episode 4 of Nana
>trying to figure out what she is saying in a line but can't figure it out
>check kitsuneko for subs
>only have subs up to ep 3
Why couldn't it have just one more episode of subs?
I ended up figuring it out using Google translate and the English subs. 遠距離恋愛 although it sounds like she is saying へ instead of え at the beginning, so I never would have figured it out. I wish people wouldn't shit on Google translate all the time, it is rarely 100% accurate but it is a very useful tool.
>don't bother to learn minor side character's name
>find out halfway through the VN it's 心
>look back at all the scenes I was super confused about the grammar
>mfw it was actually a name and not some weird expression about their heart every time
>I wish people wouldn't shit on Google translate all the time, it is rarely 100% accurate but it is a very useful tool.
It sucks shit at sentences but it's usually accurate for just words
I would guess something like Chii's Sweet Home would be easier to listen to.
You are probably best off just going with something that interests you and uses vocab you understand
Sometimes if you don't understand a sentence, putting it in and looking at the result, even thought it is a garbled incorrect mess, will give you the hint you need to figure it out. This is more for German than Japanese though. For Japanese I generally only use it for drawing kanji.
It's probably better at European languages, or languages closer to English. When I've done Japanese sentences I've got wrong translations, translations that are something entirely different from the original text and translations that are the exact opposite meaning of what was translated
I only use it for single words when I forget a word in one of the languages I know. I Have even done Japanese word into my native language because I forgot what something was called
Once I got to attend Anison Matrix in Mogra, had mad fun partying with Japanese otas.
There's no fucking way in hell I'll go to a weeb event made by whitey for whitey, though.
Lots of black tea but that's it.
How do I increase my Anki retention? At the end, I always end up with a huge list of red words that I just keep pressing again on.
I don't know how to increase it, I just seem to learn them slowly...
This happens to me too. I always fuck up on the last 20-60 cards and fail almost all of them. Shit sucks.
I think part of the problem is that I'm trying to learn both a new kanji and a new word at the same time. If the new word was made up of kanji I already knew, I'd probably find it much easier to remember.
>1. easily; readily
>2. by no means; not readily
they fail to mention that that only goes for a negative form, and that it means excessive if you use it with a positive form
sometimes you gotta do your own research instead of trusting the dictionary
>Provisional Conditional eba
>Conditional (-tara form)
>Causative Passive long
>Causative Passive short
I don't even know what all of these are in English
A good deal of those don't exist in English.
Stop acting like an 8 year who stubbornly refuses to learn. They're just a bunch of names. It's the conjugations and what they do that matter.
Since 2008 or 2009 when I was in the 9th grade
I hadn't been studying all too frequently. Got started, learned Katakana, then learned Hiragana, and read up random grammar and little things over the years while getting better at reading Kana. Every so often I'll get a little serious again and try and tackle stuff like radicals, writing, verbs (currently), etc. It gets a little overwhelming after a while, and I give up. I want a study buddy in real life so we can motivate each other and compete, but nobody I know is interested. However, seeing how many of the responses to that post are only a couple years at the most, it gives me hope that there are many success stories who left these threads.
August 2012, I forgot what thread we were up to at that point in time but the DJT was still fairly new. It's been a life changing experience
literally because I'm living in Japan now, thanks DJT
I feel bad for you. I feel like based on your description I past you when I was only a month in, and I've kept the same pace for almost 3 years. You will never learn Japanese with that attitude.
What does the middle part/できたれば mean? She doesn't have a partner and grows wrinkles under her eyes in idleness? It doesn't make much sense to me.
Without a partner on (Christmas?) eve
having a wrinkle under my eye (and it's not to my benefit)
kami-sama take one of my breasts
and make me a man
I do not understand the grammar myself but I imagine it says something like this.
It's a parody of the Genesis. It sticks close to the original text, but starts diverging around here. There is a translation, but it is pretty crappy and just skips that bit I'm asking about. And it is short, so I want to get through it.
>kami-sama take one of my breasts
>and make me a man
This sounds like a sex-change, but what I meant was to create an actual man (for a partner most likely). It is a common trope in mukashi banashi for god to create people (usually babies) out of an object.
It's basically saying "But Eve had no lover, God made wrinkles appear under her eyes and took one of her breasts and created man as a prank". Not really aiming for a decent translation but you get the meaning. I googled できたれば and
>三障四魔と申す障いできたれば賢者はよろこび愚者は退く - At such a time, the three obstacles and four devils will invariably appear, and the wise will rejoice while the foolish will retreat.
came up, so there you go
I dont feel like im progressing anywhere anymore
Its dishearting. When will Dekinai-chan leave me?
Not 100% sure but I doubt you use "遊ぶ" when referring to video games, I think you just use "する" instead
get fucked RTK
>never bother learning how to write
>figure it's not important
>"very few foreigners can write Japanese"
Fuck you, now I'm gonna learn
What does さがのさせる技 mean here?
An official translation said something like "all things are created by gender of male and female" but that doesn't seem quite right, or even if it is, I can't make sense of it.
Isn't it wrong to teach that 誰も means "nobody" when used with negative verbs?
>Nobody knows the answer of this question.
If 誰も here means "nobody", then what is actually being said, due to the verb being in the negative form, is "Nobody doesn't know the answer of this question" (that is to say, "Everybody knows the answer of this question").
If you interpret 誰も to mean "everybody", this problem goes away and the sentence makes sense: Everybody doesn't know the answer of this question = Nobody knows the answer of this question.
Keywords aren't meant to be definitions. This is explained in the first book.
Shouldn't be too much of an issue as long as the reader takes note of
>The same question words in the chart above can be combined with 「も」 in a negative sentence to mean "nobody" （誰も）, "nothing" （何も）, "nowhere" （どこも）, etc.
>in a negative sentence
There are a pool of phrases you will see as a general rule commonly used in a negated clause. Try not to think of the instructions for the word 誰＋も in particular but for the general Xも～ない pattern. At some point in that guide it should introduce this pattern again in the form of しか～ない.
Fucking hell, why is remembering prefecture names so god damn hard? They just don't seem to stick for me at all. What's worse is that almost all of them have 山 and/or 川 and/or 島 somewhere in their names which means they all sound really similar.
about 3 months ago. started out with grammar after the script and loved it. last two months have been me stuck doing anki grinding which is very much not fun. i need to throw in some grammar and more reading.
sometimes it makes it easier to make a mnemonic for a kanji because you have more segments to latch onto, sometimes it helps you guess at what the meaning of the kanji is.
a lot of the time it throws you off track though. it won't hurt but it doesn't necessarily make learning kanji a lot easier.
It's a common element, it helps your brain to transition from "this is random squiggles" to "this has a structure and a meaning".
We learn better by strengthening connections than by forming new ones.
On and off since early 2012. I've given up about 6 or 7 times since then, but I never managed to stick it out for more than a week or so on all of those attempts (the early failures were mostly due to me having no idea what I was doing).
I'm about 2 and a half months into my current attempt. I've finished Tae Kim (after never making it past the basic grammar section before) and am almost done with Core2K now (should finally finish it in 2 or 3 weeks). As I go through the last stretch of Core2K, I'm re-reading Tae Kim to refresh my memory of grammar in preparation to start reading (once I'm through Core2K, I'm going to start reading and mining).
I spent a long time having no idea what to do and my brain is the worst at learning.
I find something major I've been doing wrong every few months, so I'm gradually getting to the point where I can learn efficiently.
I couldn't use basic punctuation correctly in my native language until I was 15.
Maybe I'm retarded, but I have the aspiration and persistence to become mediocre.