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Why are cats allowed outside? No, this isn't an anti-outside cat thread. Don't debate that crap here. I mean literally why. Why did the trend start? People don't let their dogs, ferrets, horses, goats, birds, efc run wild. They're always enclosed or at most only allowed on their property. Cats however are allowed to roam unsupervised anywhere they want. They seem like the one exception. How come?
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>>2234139
Because cats were used to kill vermin on barns and shit, which just carried over to pet cats that have no business going hunting.
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>>2234150

Aren't barn cats different from outside cats? They're just ferals that live on your property. Most farmers don't even pet them or tame them.
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Cats, like dogs, developed as outdoor animals. After a while, people started letting their animals inside, fencing them in, tying them out etc. However this didn't really flow over to cats. So it's not so much as a trend starting, but a trend not changing with the times.

I thinks there's an easy way to explain why; People started to keep animals more closely as possession as they become more valuable. You don't let your dinner for a month walk onto someone else's property, or your hunting tool get snatched up by someone else. A cat was not detrimental,...
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PetSmart/PetCo/general pet shop thread

So a few months ago one of these threads was up. I asked about Guinea pig shipments and mentioned a vendor being under investigation. Lo and behold, in August, they were charged with animal cruelty.

Anyway, can we get another thread started? Stories, experiences, questions.
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>walk into petco
>fancy hamsters mislabeled as mice
>dwarf hamsters mislabeled as gerbils
>all signs say getting just one is fine, no need for companionship
>anoles packed into tank smaller than my travel-size
>360 and walk out
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>>2229040
Hamsters tend to do better alone.. Or were you talking about gerbils and mice?
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>>2229100
Syrian hams are solitary animals but the other hamsters do better in groups.

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>tfw you led 98 species to extinction just last year but people are starting to get tired of you
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>tfw you led 98 species to extinction just last year so people are starting to get tired of you

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Oh boo hoo some obscure subspecies of bird that was going to go extinct anyone in the next hundred years is no more

We need cats. The benefits of cats outweigh the disadvantages.
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>>2233726
>be a mass-murdering widespread pest, yet still collectively kill far fewer things annually than niggers
Really makes you think

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Just added a new member to the family how should I call him?
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toxoplasmosis.
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>>2234318

I'm gonna be sick.
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>>2234318
He is a bit shy.

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Cats BELONG outside, everyone on /an/ can get as mad as they want, but im going to let my fucking cat out. All of my cats i've had so far havent died, and when i keep them inside they get sad, so fuck your bullshit /an/
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>>2233263
Have fun literally becoming a rage zombie.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160323142328.htm
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>>2233265
Fuck you, i bet thats just some shitty website you made up. Cats cant make you sick because they cant carry human sicknesses.
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>>2233291
how does it feel to have parasites feasting on your brain?

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So my boyfriend made the mistake of feeding a stray cat just because it was skinny. He doesn't look sick or anything, just skinny. My neighbors did the same and now that little fucker tries to get into our houses as soon as we open the door, and it goes directly to eat my own cat's food.

I asked him to stop feeding it, especially because now there are 5 damn cats outside my door almost all day, and one is a female which the other ones try to mate with every 5 minutes (and she's very small so doesn't really let them and just screams).

I live...
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>>2231216
I wsbt to pet that feral cat.
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>>2231216
Just don't feed them and that will work.
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>>2231216

Adopt him!

Or eat cat food to make yourself sick so you can sleep through the noise of cats

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Post spiders
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mom
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this is an ant mimic hiding in a rivet on my bus

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>newspapers
>vacuum cleaners
>known persons out of the sudden wearing hats

>empty milk container that "breaths" milk smell when you squeeze it with the opening towards the dog (especially the dog's face)
this seems to be the scariest fucking thing to a dog.

on the other hand cats are scared of cucumbers so that's that.

also, don't scare your dog, go hug it now.
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>>2221152
i just did all of that to my dog, checks out
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Touching their food while their eating. Try it, it's hilarious
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>>2221329
How about (You) try it and demo it on a YT video?

Or aren't you able to hold the camera anymore with those stumps?

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Mean Dovii Edition

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Discuss anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor and issues.

Google is your friend.
Feel free to ask questions but know that there are a lot of resources out there that could answer your question a lot faster and accurately than /an/.

Make sure to include these things in your post before asking because we can't help you if we don't have the full picture:
-tank size
-parameters
-any and all inhabitants...
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first for no fish in fish tank
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>>2229638
50 Watt would be overkill, even if you'd do heavy co2. Check the Lumen per Watts on your light. if its 100 Lumen per Watt, then it's quite too high for that size.

With your plant selection, you would not even need Co2 at all, unless you want a demanding carpeting plant like Hemianthus or red/pink plants like Rotala Wallichii.
Go get a 16-30 watt LED and you are fine.
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i've been in 4 of these threads so far and the damn pastebin is still broken. Can one of you niggers fix it?

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Can we have a Webm thread?Predation is preferred, but I'm not picky.
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Interspecies competition is nice too.
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>>2225445
I was about to post one, but then I noticed that I didn't have any animal related webm. Have a gif instead.

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Why have "crate training" fags invented all these BS excuses about caging their dog? Why do they get so defensive and infuriated at anyone who is against "crate training"?

>it's for the dogs safety
>it's natural like a den
>the dog loves being locked up in a cage

Why can't you just admit that it is 100% for your own convenience so you don't have to train it, build a fence outside, or hire someone to take care of it?
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I almost forgot the best one:

>it's their safe space

Then why are you locking the door?
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>>2228047
your parents never wanted to buy a dog but you whined like a bitch non-stop. now they exist with a living burdan they dont love for your sake. you are the selfish one here who just wanted to own something that unfortunately has self concept. save your pennies and put it down or take it to a shelter where it may be loved properly as what it is.
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>>2228047
>>2228048

You have no idea how uneducated you sound. This isn't some movement started by /an/.

You're basically accusing the entire animal and veterinary professional community idiots. You, you're little lonesome self on some backwater image board of 4chan, is demanding answers from millions of licensed and certified veterinarians and animal trainers. You're insisting you and your highschool diploma know more than them, with their 8...
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post T R A V E L doggos
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>>2221540

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>TFW dad is making me get rid of my gerbils

he said he'd kill them if i dont

im going to release them in my neighborhood in about 2 hours.

how long do you think they will last? 2 hours? a day?

>feels bad, man
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>>2224876
You'd be better off killing them yourself. Better it be quick than say, a cat playing with them or them starving to death.
Alternatively, is there nobody at all that would take them? No friend that would take them for a couple of days while you work something out?
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>>2224877
how would i kill them? the only thing i can think of is suffocation. but fuck that. i want them to at least be able to run around outside for once in their lives

even if it means they'd die
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>>2224876
Have to tried free post on craigslist? Also you need to be 18 to post here.

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How comes orcas go out of their way not to harm humans?

Here is an example where a penguin jumps on a rubber raft to escape orcas. They would be easily able to breach the raft, yet they instead give up the chase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZQGAAsT3fY

I also saw another video that I currently can't find, where an orca chased after a fish but gave up, to avoid a collision with a diver.
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because they know humans have the capacity to genocide them if they try anything
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>>2218839
how are they supposed to know that?
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>>2218842

They have a cousin on the inside.
Seaworld.

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The plant general: Archaeamphora edition
So is this thing an ancient pitcher plant or not?
>Also, I think it looks a bit dry, I recommend watering it a bit more

Welcome to /plant/, the magical green place on this blue board. ITT: We summon plont, grow avocados and also, RIP S. Flava division. Press 'F' to pay respects.

/Plant/ is for the discussion of plants (obviously). Horticulturists, hobbyists and botanists welcome! Questions about plants? Want to show off your two inch dick-I mean plant? Maybe you want to start...
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>>2208007
thanks for the new thread
Also, I thought my S. leucophylla 'pubescent' was going to die, but apparently not
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I wanted to trim my b52's dead leaves and I ended up separating its divisions.
Well, I hope that at least the big one lives, buying them in August was a mistake.
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>>2208724
>buying them in August was a mistake
made the same mistake with my 'cluster trap'

let's hope for the best

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Ok, I'm serious so pls no ban. Hypothetically speaking, how bad would it be if I adopted pets only to use them for food. There are loads of people in my area giving away bunnies, guinea pigs, and such, for free online, and I'm thinking it would be a great way to test out new meats in my cooking and to have a steady supply of meat not raised on soy and other nasty stuff. Ideas?
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Sure go for it. Can you even eat guinea pigs though?
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It sounds morally incorrect. People want you to own and take care of their pets, not eat them. Make it upfront that you want to kill them.

Legally though? I don't think it's an issue as long as you kill them safely and humanely.
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>>2229843
Peruvians seem to do it just fine, since they bred them for the purpose of food.

>>2229844
This is what I'm worried about. I don't want to cause a shitstorm if people find out. Maybe I should adopt from a different part of the country? Less chance of people finding out?

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I have come to a realization. All this "positive training" bullshit is a joke.
Dogs are not humans. And we need to stop anthropomorphizing them and treating them that way.
If they do something wrong, they need to be corrected, as they would if they were wild, and not domesticated. They need to be taught what is right and what is wrong and corrected if they do wrong. Not praised and rewarded and told "it's okay, do this instead".
Dogs aren't dumb. They know when they're breaking the rules and trying to be sneaky and get away with...
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Do you guys think she fucks that dog?
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I'm gonna hop in to this thread for the inevitable 325 post shitstorm that will follow.
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>>2216978
If you're asking if I'd pay to watch her fuck that dog, than the answer is yes.

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das it mane
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>>2205623
I need a pet deer now.

Price? Steps? Requirements?
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Not horrendously so. I mean obviously not great indoors though.

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came home tonight and saw my dog not moving. called her name didnt move. ran up to her and didnt move. i had to physically pick her up to get her to stand but she only stayed up because she was leanong on wall. im so sad. someone gave her rat poison. vet said 75% chance of death of we dont take to hospital and pay 1,100 for a 25% chance of her to die. im so sad. i cried for an hour strait. the only reason i stopped was because i didnt want tp keep her from sleeping. i know she is going to die and so will all my love and happiness left inside me. fuck people and fuck life. Goodnight...
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>>2227300
But a bullet in her you asshole. Don't let her die from poisoning.
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>>2227300
why don't you brin her to the vet clinic them? because of the 1,100$?

stupid fuck, if you get a pet you agree to care for it it's whole life, which also includes vet bills.
If she dies after trying to save her, you at least did everything you could. Also, a ruptured cruciate ligament costs more than that. Would you also not take her to the vet because of that?
Many dogs rupture this ligament, so it's a pretty common thing.
Bitch
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>>2227304
im so sad. i know i have to put her down but i just dont want her to go away.... i

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Alright, post your favorite type of breed of dogs videos are permitted too!

ready, set.. go!
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I don't have a doggo but I want one of 3 doggos

First is the shibe, 90% sure I'll never get one becuase I don't know the first thing about training dogs
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>>2226768
For something a bit more realistic, I'd love a nice, sociable bulldog

Love these fat chunkers
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Labrador retriever

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Are small birds the cutest animal? Post round little birds.
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previous thread >>2210926

/herp/ reptile classifieds for finding breeders of various scaled and sundry creatures

>kingsnake.com
>faunaclassifieds.com
>reptilescanada.com (Canadian breeders)
>Also check to see if there are any annual reptile shows/expos in your area as these are good places to find good animals from good breeders at partial discount


/herp/ officially official all purpose care...
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regarding a couple questions from end of last thread

>I have a beardie who wants to do nothing but sleep under his hide this past week, is it brumation or should I be calling my vet?

It's kind of early for brumation behaviour. Double check your temperatures. Is beardy still eating?

>how to trap a house gecko

I'm not sure. I guess best bet would be a tupperware container with a small entrance hole cut in it, some soil and plants inside, left in a warm dark area of the house. It...
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Coral reef edition

Continued from:
>>2221968

Discuss anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor and issues.

Google is your friend.
Feel free to ask questions but know that there are a lot of resources out there that could answer your question a lot faster and accurately than /an/.

Make sure to include these things in your post before asking because we can't help you if we don't have the full picture:
-tank size
-parameters
-any and all inhabitants...
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New thread! Woo! What do all planted aquarists think of about the finnex fugeRay planted+? I have a 24" on my 20 gallon high.
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>>2226021
I have the 30 inch oj my 20 long, it's bright yea, but I don't think my plants are getting as much light as they should
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>>2226040
What plants do you have?

My list will include

Java fern
Java moss
Jungle Val
Anubias Nana
Lugwidia
Bacopa

Will my plants like it? I'm working on CO2, I have flourish tabs and I've got flourish liquid ferts on the way. How should I get setup as well? Put plants in, then ferts & CO2, or CO2+Ferts, then plants. My tank has been running for years, and has a mighty level of stability.

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>>2205727
Image limit reached, moving on, etc etc. You know the drill by now.
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This piece actually has some rather interesting textures.
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"Nicaragua Indians-Baby's Rattle"

Evidently there are 7 "Indian" cultures in Nicaragua. Chorotega, Cacaopera/Matagalpa, Ocanxiu/Sutiaba, Nahoa/Náhuatl, Miskitu, Sumu-Mayangna, & Rama. No idea which of them made this.

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Excluding our ape and monkey cousins , chimps are already getting there in this regard, what animal species is the next and most likely candidate for the sapient/big brain lottery?
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Corvids, possibly. Perhaps dogs. African Grey Parrots? Whales and Dolphins, rats.
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>>2217878
Id love this sort of concept to be explored more in fiction really, taking their general behaviour and trying to imagine how a society of those creatures would develop.
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>>2217878
>Corvids
Maybe. Will have a hard time manipulating anything that's not a stick. That goes for any bird.

>dogs
Nope.

>Whales and Dolphins
Can't manipulate tools, can't start fire under water which arguably was what got our civilization going.

>rats
Very short generation time, might be too short to pass complex ideas. They can't have elders around...
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How do I reconcile liking animals with being a carnist? I'm a christfag so I just tell myself God made animals for us to use however we want and animals will kill each other anyway, but sometimes I'll look at even small birds and think that they're more like us than we give them credit for.
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just stay away from factory farming

there's nothing wrong with killing and eating animals, it's torturing them while they're alive that's at issue
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they might be like us, they're certainly not like you though since even birds aren't dumb enough to believe in magical sky wizards :^^^^)
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>>2225137
At least I shave.

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Is all the cat advice written by cunts (women)?

I don't want to hear shit about cunts owning cats.

Any men own cats? How do you handle them?
Cat has scratching posts, scratched furnishings anyway.

When he hisses at me he gets thrown out of the house at the least. If he fights more he gets beaten.

And if any cunt want's to come have a problem with that, with your fucking cunt laws... just like any male in your cunt society: don't got nothing to lose.

Everything men want to do is outlawed anyway: from guns to girls.

Cat...
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men don't own cats, cuck.
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>>2224486
Cats aren't particularly intelligent AND you keep rewarding your cat for being an ass. Advice is either to give it to someone more competent or just kill it and make a nice stew.
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>>2224493
>Cats aren't particularly intelligent
they're not much smarter than a tortoise, anon.

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>>2215787
Bump
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>>2215787
I'm interested.
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So, powerful dogs like Tibetan Mastiff, Kangals, Argentinos, Rottweilers and American Pitbull Terriers have strong bite forces and muscles.

Can these big dogs kill big cats like lions and tigers? Hyenas apparently have stronger bite force than lions and can actually beat them despite being scavengers. And in actual battles, American Pitbull Terriers always dominate and overpower everything. Apparently they even kill large boars and bears.

So would lions and tigers lose to the strongest big dogs?
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>>2223851
If you know where to look, there are videos of game dogs pitted against hyenas, wolves, bears, lions, tigers, leopards, etc. You won't find it on youtube or live leak though.
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I don't think any similarly sized animal can beat a tiger. Cats also have claws over dogs.
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>>2223851
>So would lions and tigers lose to the strongest big dogs?

Lose to a dog? No.

Lose to the pack? Absolutely.

Kipling summed it up best: "For the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the pack."

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Greyhounds are special
Do you like greyhound ?
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my hound is grey, does that count?
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>>2220200
Nice boy
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>>2220197
>"long fellow"
I fucking hate tumblr


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