Newfriends often ask what style they should do so I'm going to break it down into an easy list based on country of origin for you.
Completely avoid anything style from China. It's either utter bullshit or inferior to comparable styles
Legit as fuck. 10/10 would fuck ladyboy's with
A bit of a mixed bag. There's some legit stuff like kyokushin, judo and shooto but plenty of bullshit like aikido, shotokan and jujutsu.
>Europe (I'm aware Europe isn't a country but I can't be fucked doing individual entries)
Generally legit. Boxing, savate, sambo and various folkstyle wrestling are all great. Systema is completely bullshit.
All shit. You know how China is famous for shitty copies? Korea is the martial arts equivalent.
I feel wrestling should be considered american at this point since availability is fairly hit-and-miss elsewhere. Wrestling is great. However, there's lots of bullshit involved with "homegrown systems" such as kaijukenbo
As you'd expect of the land of trade princes the only contribution Israel makes to martial arts is scamming the goyim. Hitler literally did nothing wrong.
Muay Thai's clinch supplements judo a bunch. Can't land that judo throw well now you got openings for muay thai elbows knees and takedowns.
Systema is crap and is considered a joke in Russia which is where the system originates. Russia regulates most of its sports heavily through the government, styles like Sambo, Judo and boxing you need approval to coach and be promoted through the government to be considered a master of sport. Systema is a foo foo style non regulated with wannabe bad asses and scam artist teaching shit
You want a Russian style to learn? Sambo or Judo.
karate specially full contact karate like kyokoshin would be good with its focus on devastating body blows and the foot sweeps from outside range would be great crossover for a judoka's foot sweeps from inside range.
Only bad thing is there is no clinching an no focus on clinch entry so there's a huge exploited hole in fighting style if you are getting outstruck from outside range but can't enter into clinch range.
>I feel wrestling should be considered american at this point since availability is fairly hit-and-miss elsewhere.
Only if we're considering other Anglo-Saxon cultures, Europe and East Asia.All of the former USSR has a wrestling culture that easily rivals the US - especially the Caucasus and Mongolia. And then there nations like Turkey, Iran, Egypt that consistently produce great wrestlers. Even black Africa has several strong wrestling traditions.
Seidokaikan and Enshin have a ton of grabbing and clinching. Enshin even actually has takedowns.
If you're into Japanese shit (and wearing a gi) you can stack up judo and one of the kyokushin offshoots just fine.
JKD isn't even a martial art its a philosphy of mixing and blending styles to fit your needs. BUT there are scam artist and Bruce Lee fanboys that teach JKD as a shitty homage to Lee's Wing Chun which goes against everything Bruce Lee was trying to teach with JKD.
take China's cultural revolution and the greed of Hong Kong film making, but China's legacy martial arts are all scams and bullshit.
You might get stuff like Sanda which is fine for kick boxing, but if you expect chi blasting, chain punching, kung fu stuff like the moves its all bs.
>Duncan, BC, Canada
I looked at the town and everything looked like complete shit, I am sorry.
Even the Karate places were terrible (the two in town had pictures on their website of kids with fake belts).
Try Black Box MMA. It's in Duncan. While I can't find a website it will likely be much better than all the other bullshit gyms I just poured through in your area.
The more I looked into Black Box MMA it clearly looks like a better option. They have a facebook website that I can't link because 4chan says it's spam. I found photos on their facebook of their people competing in an actual Kickboxing tournament.
Seriously go to Black Box. A few months of kickboxing is better than a decade at any of the other bullshit gyms that are in your area.
Bjj, boxing and tkd here.
You're a fucking faggot. Hurr durr anything from China or Korea is bad. Have you tried any martial art from either countries? No. You just go on youtube and join the circle jerk over modern MMA. There are dozens of kung fu styles and unless you are knowledgable about all of them you have no right saying everything is bullshit.
Also China has Sanda which you MMA tapout faggots seem to love.
Hey man I'm pissed about the years I wasted on TKD too. The sooner you accept you're never getting that time back and stop defending it to avoid cognitive dissonance the happier you'll be.
China has sanda, but that's basically kickboxing with takedowns.
Here and there you'll also see a sanda practitioner throw in some wacky kung fu shit, but it's rare and generally only when there's a huge skill difference, because, surprise surprise, kung fu isn't all that practical when not fighting hapless peasants.
>You want a Russian style to learn? Sambo or Judo.
This. Russia has it's own very noticeable style of Judo too, you don't see many others fight like they do, except maybe Georgia and Kazakhstan. It was even more noticeable before they took out the leg grabs.
Medieval euro wrestling is pretty no-nonsense and pretty good. Ringen has a lot of good techniques, and Fiore's Arbazare has quality systematic methods, though it generally avoids groundwork.
there are a couple of accounts of technique, but nothing nearly enough to reconstruct a system out of
What time machine do you recommend to buy in order to go learn medieval wrestling? Or should we go back to the fucking frontier with Washington to learn some collar and elbow? But seriously just learn wrestling
The Budokan in Asuka is also a big fucking dojo you nob.
Source: Because I fucking train there.
I don't know any terms, but I want to be more endurance/energy oriented than strength oriented. You don't really need a whole lot of strength, but it'd be nice to tire less easily and be able to be active for an extended period of time.
OK, here's the thing about TKD fitness.
As with most things TKD related, you only really get the good stuff from sport TKD. If you're not getting sport TKD, you got a total shit sandwich, rather then a mixed bag.
TKD is great for endurance/energy of a kind. Pretty much all your strength stuff will be fast twitch in your legs and your abdominals, though.
You will be able to move on your feet really fast without breaking a sweat.
But something like BJJ is great for long term endurance distributed across your whole body.
And boxing is fucking great for supporting weight with your legs for long periods of time.
I think the only things that really stand out about TKD fitness is flexibility and a sense of lightness. When I did just TKD I felt like my body weighed nothing.
TKD will make litterally everything else easier
No martial art is harder on your cardio then TKD. There's a reason Oly matches are 3x2 min, not 3x3 min.
Having done TKD, MT, Jits, Judo, MMA
TKD is the only one that regularly made me want to spit in training.
ANYTHING that uses the legs will be made better with a TKD backround, because no other art will have you loading your whole bodyweight onto one leg, then jumping off it and using that same leg to kick.
Also, i've yet to get my knees wrecked, tho i started young and have been real careful with my knees
I'm sure TKD has great cardio, but the emphasis on kicks doesn't seem very practical. I'd think that muay thai is a much better art for striking.
also, while TKD isn't bad, the fact that it's so widely popular means that it must be plagued by mcdojos.
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LITERALLY SHITTY KOREAN COPY
If you're an aspiring pro you can go on Sherdog and look up all the active fighters associated with a specific gym/team, and find the gyms with the most successful current fighters and obviously try to train with one of them.
You probably don't want to be a pro, you risk life long injuries, chuck liddel levels of retardation, arthritis, multiple herniated discs, it's pretty much the stupidest thing you can ever do is fight for money. Here's CroCop literally breaking Gonzaga's face in half, imagine that's you eating all those elbows and what's it doing to your brain https://youtu.be/qdScynjC81w
Then remember you'll start out bush leagues so some guy could be wailing on your like that for a while until they stop it if the refs at that promotion are incompetent clowns
well I'm not saying rely on them, but I'm convinced that joint locks/pressure point strikes would be useful to have in your repertoire. if hapkido isn't best (since it combines them with other techniques) then what is? could japanese jujitsu replace it?
Consider the following
>you're either in the ring or on DA STREETZ
>by some miracle you manage to catch someone's hand
>you're not in the perfect position to apply the lock (protip: you never will be) so you have to reposition
>at this point you are controlling one of his hands with two of yours
>you then get KTFO by his other hand
This is why fancy wrist locks are retarded.
The only time they have any relevance are during grappling. Either against a wall/cage or on the ground. Even then it's only useful for surprise as you're still giving up both hands for one of theirs.
this sounds like you have a very limited understanding of things.
I'm not even advocating joint grabs, I'm just pointing out how retarded your logic is
Btw the whole "catch" somebody's hand thing is retarded. You use a forearm block not a boxing parry and then you rotate your wrist and grab them off of the block, just saying, again, that I'm just pointing out how large your mouth is vs how much you know
>at thist point your controlling his hand
>you get KO'd by his other hand
Ever hear about the whole, get your lead foot outside of his lead foot thing?
That thing where all you can do is create distance and then reset or immediately try to shift so that you're still facing them?
Have you ever tried to land punches with a hand on the side of the opposite shoulder
Need I say, the real point of a joint lock is to break the joint, not to stand there gawking saying "I'm gonna break it"
Again, I don't even advocate standing grapples or grappling, I need to work on my grapple game. I'm just pointing out how shitty your post was
been thinking about starting savate once I get the ability to move, I was wondering where I can find good gyms, there's a gym in helsinki but the problem is that I can't speak finnish that good, so if I want to start I have to move
I might be moving to nanaimo in a couple years anyway, so I'll be able to try out CJ's, but I'll be moving to duncan first. And yea downtown duncan is pretty nice, they've even got a hot yoga studio
I have recently stated mt and I have some boxing back round. That being said I am pretty comfortable with traditional boxing stance as opposed to mt dominant leading stance. Will knees and kicks be effectived negatively by not using dominate leg? I know I can train compensate but I want to start off on the best foot forward.(pun kinda intended)
So what would you guys recommend to me if I wanted to just learn flashy shit you see in movies and video games.
I'm an aspiring actor so I want to learn stuff the looks the business, not necessary practical like BJJ
Can you teach yourself that shit? (currently in a city with no tricking community but will be moving in a year) and should I supplement it with something else flashy like tae kwon do? Or something practical like judo or boxing, or just focus on tricking
Just out of curiosity, is Japanese jujustsu complete bullshit, or just has a lot of bullshit.
Does Mexico have a martial art? Or is it a "they got fucked so hard that even if they did, we don't fucking know anymore" situation.
Has a lot of bullshit. But managed to spawn great descendent arts.
Part of the problem is the less bullshit a JJJ program has, the more likely it is to just call itself Judo.
>Does Mexico have a martial art?
>But managed to spawn great descendant arts
That's why i was curious
And I meant if they had some freaky old tribal stiff or something, though I guess not, I just wondered since I already knew they're good at boxing.